The best budget paint gun! auto body and paint repair, astro euro pro evot 13, cheap paint gun

In this episode I review a the astro pneumatic euro pro hvot13 and demo it by painting and clearing a door on a Ford Ranger. I'll compare it to the astro pneumatic euro pro he which is a amazing budget friendly paint gun. I'll give you the pros and cons to both and let you know which gun I perfer. Don't miss this video If your looking to buy a paint gun!!
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[@GarageNoise]

Do you have a budget gun that is better? What is it? I want know and to do a review! So far we have the eastwood lt 100, what else GO!

[@larrys.206]

Flg5 or sharpe fx3000

[@GarageNoise]

@@larrys.206 I looked for the flg5 but had a hardtime finding one in the us market.

[@larrys.206]

@@GarageNoise I have noticed they are hard to find for some reason. Great reviews of the astros.

[@mlin3129]

You should do a demo video of you setting/ adjusting up the evolt-13 for paint and clear.

[@GarageNoise]

@@mlin3129 will do!

[@mlin3129]

I painted my car with the evot14 and evot13 for cleat. And I paint a 1976 caprice and it used only a half gallon of paint and half a gallon of clear to paint the entire care. Years before with a harbor frieght gun it took a gallon!

[@GarageNoise]

The transfer efficiency is really good. Thanks for letting us know

[@deankay4434]

I had to follow you from the appearance in the “Paint Society” video. Once again, amazing results and I bought the Euro Pro HE. Please let everyone know to throw away the plastic screen in the guns kit inside the plastic. To me, have a good stand, mixed your product to manufactures specs for induction time. This is a chemical hand-shake to mix and affects the rate of at which the paint cures. People need to know that paints evaporate certain solvents while the resins, binders and solids joint together and technically form one large molecule. So with the proper ratio, correct urethane reducer for shop/metal temp affects how it sprays and lays down. You should almost use a stop watch and start at the same location each pass for coats. This avoids solvent popping and a good sealer (I like epoxy sealer mixed to seal over filler and factory paint) This creates that barrier for a better match and long life as most cars sit in the sun at work and many at home. Notice how garage noise taped of the bottom of rocker panel to the shop floor. What under the rocker, frame and floor, who knows. That’s the point! This is how garage noise keep dirt out of a collision paint repair without shop fans. Like, subscribe and hit the bell. I did! ASE Master Tech since 1978.

[@GarageNoise]

Thanks brother!

[@BearBudgetTurbine]

At this price point, still my favorite gun. More air than the R500 which is more diy friendly, but if you have a decent sized compressor, this is my pick. Super smooth action. Very light in the hand. Nice finish. Straight forward design without a bunch of plastic seals. Should use it in your videos more often

[@GarageNoise]

Yes! Simple effective design! It sprays great, need to use this some more.

[@trevorhoward6115]

Just bought this gun! Going to be painting my first vehicle soon. Didn't want to go to cheap but didn't want to break the bank either. Hope it's good!

[@GarageNoise]

I really think you'll dig this gun. It's a great gun to get your feet wet. Checkout my video how to spray clear like glass I made the video with this gun.

[@GarageNoise]

Here's the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIGmfHmJid9mg8k

[@trevorhoward6115]

Thank you! Cant wait

[@justinfletcher5189]

Having a tough time deciding on what Astro I’m going to buy as an upgrade to the old trusty HF purple gun Don’t think I can go wrong with either but the evot is probably pulling slightly into the lead.

[@GarageNoise]

I think your right because of the lower overspray and transfer efficacy.

[@jrv858]

Nice review.....i also have a devilbiss pro lite im looking to add another gun these look to spray nice.. ..i purchase a primer gun from astro 1.9 it spray nice great upgrade from a hf purple gun

[@shawn6684]

I just bought the evot14 for single stage metallic and clear coat . Can't wait to try it . I have the deviblis starting line kit with primer and finish gun and the primer gun is great but the 1.3 finish gun sucks lol I'm about to be on my 2nd warranty one cause this one falling again .

[@GarageNoise]

Evot is great, good luck with it brother!

[@DJDOUBLE077]

I'm definitely grabbing one of these ...thanks for the review

[@VickiThompson-ud7tn]

Thanks for the EVOT review, I ordered one today can' wait to try it out. I have a thirty year old Astro that I use for high build still works great. Very informative youtube site. Thanks R

[@stax6057]

I do body and paint work for a living. I have the green euro pro hvlp and I love it, I use it for base and clear and these guns are very well built. I own $500 spray guns and havent even used them since buying the euro pro. I'll have to grab the Evo t and check it out. For 100 bucks you really cant beat it

[@GarageNoise]

You're so right, it's really pretty amazing. I don't have the green one yet but plan to pick it up.

[@robertcharlton1551]

Just when I bought the LvLP RX500.

[@asksteevies4941]

Yo I just got this from Amazon ,, ,,I’m telling you it’s so light and the trigger is so smooth fits awesome in the hand , all the other guns feel like shit,Can’t wait to spray it ,this is nice wow

[@GarageNoise]

👍

[@BearBudgetTurbine]

I need another paint gun like I need a third eye...but you almost got me convinced I need to buy one😅...

[@GarageNoise]

Lol, tools are an investment that's what I tell the wife. I love this gun but check out the 3m performance gun it's amazing. I have a video but there's plenty on KZbin. At the moment it's the best value around!

[@BearBudgetTurbine]

@@GarageNoise Does the all plastic parts really compare to a quality cnc machined gun? Most of the positives i've heard revolve around saved time at clean up. Fresh caps every time. Ect. But that means a cycle of purchases for the life of the gun. Think I will just keep cleaning my guns for now. Still interested in trying the Euro pros tho. Have you ever tried the green version? I see the cfm is only 9-10 on that gun and says it can spray at 10 pounds. Review guy said 23 pounds off the gun. If it can spray at those settings, overspray should be reduced. That is an important factor for me spraying in a one car bay 😷

[@GarageNoise]

@@BearBudgetTurbine I believe the gereen one is a touch up gun. There's nothing wrong with that tho. I haven't tested that one but I've heard good things and yes it consumes alot less air.

[@husky1232]

Nice review on the guns thank you for the video stay safe

[@mustangrebuilder]

one youtuber to another great job

[@kylet3390]

Thank you! Very informative! I really appreciate it!

[@digschopper9321]

I've had mine for years,use it for 2K primer. There's a poly O-ring inside that,if not centered,can get mashed down and ruined. Paint escapes around the tip into the spray cap,making it spray like stucco. I'm looking for a new ring.

[@digschopper9321]

I called Acme,they're sending out a new O ring. Just like that. Good company.

[@megaman4201]

Just subbed TC in Annapolis Maryland 35 yrs Collision/Refinish exp.

[@GarageNoise]

Thanks brotha!

[@bobbyt3358]

The gun is not available on your link. Enjoyed your un bias review. Thank you.

[@meanpaintandbody]

I believe the the best budget gun is the lt100 .from eastwood it's a lph400 replica have used it for everything for years works amazing

[@GarageNoise]

Great ! Thanks for letting me know! I will get one coming I think that cost about 80 bucks if I'm not mistaken.

[@meanpaintandbody]

@@GarageNoise on special their like 60

[@GarageNoise]

@@meanpaintandbody someone suggested this gun around Christmas and I didn't pull the trigger, it was on sale then.

[@meanpaintandbody]

@@GarageNoise it's a good gun It was given to me as a gift by my wife she was thinking it was a lph400 but it was a perfect purchase used it for sealer base pearls and 4:1 clear will try it on a 2:1 clear in the near future

[@PhillyFixed]

Ironically I clicked this video in preparation for painting a door on my red 2002 Ford Ranger 😅

[@GarageNoise]

Perfect! Appreciate the comment!

[@adanvaldcontreras4283]

Definitely got to get one 👌 great video

[@GarageNoise]

Thanks brother, It's definitely a nice budget gun and well built. You'll want to check out Sunday's video on the 3m Accuspray

[@deanhauser6626]

what disposable cup adapter fits this gun?

[@watchdog3605]

First of all thank You for your videos. I’ve learned a lot. My question is, is it possible to spray base and clear together?

[@GarageNoise]

That would be a single stage urethane enamel. Essentially the uv protection is in with the paint. Spray like clear. One step three coat and done.

[@petardetar5191]

Can you try and review Spray Gun: Auarita L-898

[@dginta7932]

Why would you not have the gauge at the gun and the filter below it? Would that not show a more accurate psi at the gun? Or does it not matter that much?

[@GarageNoise]

Yes, the guage should be at the gun It probably would give you a more accurate psi.

[@Jopakilo]

As you mentioned it is a smaller compressor and DIY. This gun required 11cfm air compressor? And I only have 7cfm / 200l/m FAD air compressor. Is it still able to use this gun for small repair job on rear bumper? Thanks in advance

[@GarageNoise]

You may be still able to use it for small jobs but it you check out this video this gun is much better suited for your needs it is a lvlp gun that requires less cfm's to operate. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKXUf5KkftSLh5I

[@israel9294]

I noticed you first have ur spray gun then the filter, regulator. Is that the correct order? Because I usually see painters use spray gun ,regulator and then the filter. Thanks

[@GarageNoise]

I don't think it really makes a difference. That was just a error on my part should be gun,regulator then filter

[@wayneduchscherer4676]

My Evot-13 won't spray more then 1.3 bars despite inline 100 p.s.i.Tried difference regulators.Does not seem to matter.Any suggestions? My HE is right on.

[@GarageNoise]

Try it with no regulators and see what happens. Probly a regulator problem.

[@beforeadamIwas]

I ordered to h.e 105, I use single stage urethane. Do you think the h.e is the best choice for that type of paint.

[@GarageNoise]

Yeah, I think that will be a fine choice. It's a really solid gun

[@powers6963]

Forgot to ask - Do you guys think a 3.2hp 60gal compressor would run the EVOT13? The compressor spec is 11.5 cfm @ 40psi and 10.2 @ 90psi. Thank you!!!

[@GarageNoise]

I'm sure you could but if your painting a whole vehicle you may have some air fluctuations.

[@samuelfrodge4988]

Can you just order cap and needle for this in like 1.4 or 1.5?

[@GarageNoise]

I believe you can get a 1.4 I don't think they offer a 1.5 appreciate the comment and support!

[@PaganWizard]

Can this be used with PlastiDip?? I know the Astro Euro Pro HE Spray Gun108 that DipYourCar sells with your choice of a 1.3 or 1.4 tip.

[@GarageNoise]

Not sure

[@ngaihtea5237]

Sir, can you please suggest a spray paint gun that you have reviewed/tested that is LVLP but is the lowest CFM and the most reliable budget gun?

[@GarageNoise]

R500 is the lowest cfm full size paint gun I've found. It's also branded as aeropro a610, eastwood lt100 . I have many video's using this gun on my channel, I would encourage you to chaeck those video's out.

[@ngaihtea5237]

Thank you so much for your kind advice👍🏻

[@powers6963]

Where did you find the PPS1-style cup adapter for the EVOT13? Looks like it takes a #27 (16119), but it's been a bear trying to find one since they're discontinued by 3M. Great Video btw!!

[@GarageNoise]

I have no Idea honestly, it's been sometime since I purchased it.

[@Cam-wi3tp]

you said it is good for diy with smaller compressors. I like this gun but a lot of people call it lvlp but on their website they say it is hvlp and uses 11.5-13.5 scfm which doesn't sound like it would work with smaller compressors so really confusing

[@GarageNoise]

I don't feel like it's a hvlp. 11.5-13.5 is on the low end for a full size paint gun. It depends on how small a compressor your using and what your painting. A portable 30 gallon is your just doing one panel your probably ok but if you want to do a complete you will be starved for air.

[@mitchellferre1652]

Get a Devilbiss GPG or Iwata Kiwami4 or bellaria. All use around 9.5scfm at 2bar . Very efficient. Better finish and build quality at a higher price.

[@gladememmott3001]

Which one had better atomization???

[@semirm8248]

Also any budget clears you recommend. And could you make a video about it. I have used speedokote ,tamco, finish 1

[@GarageNoise]

Upol is a great budget clear. The link is in my store front under clears , buffs great and lays out flat and a kit is like 60.00 that's hard to beat.

[@semirm8248]

@@GarageNoise i will definitely look in to that

[@shawnward4105]

I have a 26 Gallon compressor with around 5 cfms would this EVOT13 let me spray like bumper or one part at a time?

[@GarageNoise]

Yes, but this gun would be much better for your compressor check out this video on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKfHlKCuf7enqa8

[@user-fr8wn5bs2n]

Hello, thanks for this great video. Question for you please : If you have a big compressor and need a gun for clear coat exclusively, which of the 2 guns should you choose ? For your information, this 2 spray gun are almost the same price right in this moment. Thanks.

[@GarageNoise]

I really go back and fourth between which is better. I don't think you can go wrong with either of these guns. With that being said I would give a slight edge to the evot13 the gold gun.

[@user-fr8wn5bs2n]

Thank you very much Garagenoise, let s go for evoke13. 👌@@GarageNoise

[@tylerc7545]

Matco rebranded this gun and is selling it for $500

[@PadmaDorjee]

Thank you very much, you helped me decide on the brand of my very first spray gun. No my only question is for my first gun and never tried painting before, would you recommend this Evot13 or Astro's 1mm mini gun? I think they call it a touch up gun. Starting job is 4 wheels and small trim parts on door and inside engine bay. Thanks in advance, Andre. Keep up the great videos

[@petardetar5191]

Go with Mini

[@GarageNoise]

Yes, mini would be a good place to start low air consumption and you can do small jobs with it up to a couple panels at at time.

[@jimfitzgibbon5492]

How do those guns lay down clear? One more question what is a good paint flow starting adjustment ?

[@GarageNoise]

They lay down clear great! I start 2.5 turns out on the volume from closed. With 26-27 psi and adjust from there.

[@jimfitzgibbon5492]

Thank you, you are a huge help. Your site is now my first go to, & yes I did subscribe.

[@semirm8248]

Flg5 ebay has them Lvlp Hiuhiu 1.3 Summit racing lvlp 1.3 about $70

[@GarageNoise]

Hear good things about the flg5

[@WilliamVG]

Just picked up the EVOT13, can't wait to try it out. Btw, what PSI pressure worked best for clear coat? I heard the EVOT likes less inlet pressure when switching to clear.

[@GarageNoise]

I spray it with about 28psi but play around with the pressure see what works for you. Let me know how you like it.

[@WilliamVG]

@@GarageNoise Hello again, I've been trying my hands on few paint projects. So far I find the EVOT13 average at best. I tried spraying at 18psi all the way up to 28 and honestly I'm not getting a smooth finish. I'm shooting with Sherwin Williams paints. Your spray volume, how many turns do you have the dial back from fully closed, 1.5 turns?

[@GarageNoise]

@@WilliamVG No at least 2.5 prob 3 turns out from closed. Fan wide open try 3 turns out from closd and 28 psi. 4-5 inches away. Do a test panel and spray it heavy almost till you think its going to run and let me know how it goes.

[@joesenger7279]

@@GarageNoise Just curious as to how you get (or got its an older video) 28psi at the gun? I have tried with mine to get more than 20psi at the gun and it will not go above 20psi. Even running a regulator wide open while feeding the gun 100psi at the wall regulator. At the gun only registers 20psi. I was told it is because the max the gun will do is 20psi input. I want to try running mine with a touch more pressure but it won't go above 20. The gun did a great job on a complete paint job of sealer, base and clear. I would love to try an HE and see how it does as well.

[@GarageNoise]

@@joesenger7279 Joe, you have a full size evot13 not the touch up gun version? If so that gun will do more that 20 psi. I would change your gun air regulator something is not right or just try it with no regulator without paint . Just to test

[@curtisgyorfi5462]

What pressire did you set your regulator at?

[@GarageNoise]

For clear 28to 30 psi for base coat I like to be around 20psi

[@curtisgyorfi5462]

@GarageNoise same for lvlp? I have never used lvlp just hvlp

[@zyuzjazizin9363]

Hi! What the better model Astro for clear coat? Thanks

[@GarageNoise]

Both these astro gun work great with clear. The euro pro he103 Layed out some flat clear on the chevy truck project but you can't go wrong with the evot 13 Ethier. Appreciate the support!

[@kylesimmons8408]

You having shot both this gun and the Kiwami 4 would you say go with the evot 13 or is the Kiwami 4 worth the extra money for a do all one gun solution for home use?

[@GarageNoise]

If your just starting out the evot13 is a great all around gun at a reasonable price. The Iwata is a better gun. It's a bargain for the price. It's a bit more money than the evot13 so if that's a concern go with the asto it will do a great job and is a good gun to start with.

[@kylesimmons8408]

@@GarageNoise Thank you for your reply!

[@rickloera9468]

I have a 26 gallon compressor. I purchased an Eastwood CC500 with a 1.3 tip. I found out is way too much spray gun for that little compressor. Atomization is horrible. Switched to a Black Widow with a 1.7 tip because that is all I had. The Black Widow did a much better job. I hear that a LVLP gun is the way to go but the EVOT 13 1.3 is not available, only the EVOT 14 1.4 is available. I was about to order the gun when I saw in the questions section at Amazon where many users said that this is not an LVLP gun but an HVLP gun. In your video you mention that the compressor requirements are lower for the gun you were using. My question is will I be able to get a decent paint job using the EVOT 14. When I used the CC500 I spent a lot of time doing paint correction just to get a good result. Not really wanting to do that. When I took an auto body class at city college I painted several cars and had so little orange peel that I didn't have to cut and polish. So even as a novice I know I can do it, but I also don't have the huge compressor that the school had. Any pointers would greatly help. Thanks in advance.

[@GarageNoise]

What you want to look for is a gun that sprays with low cfm's. The evot needs 11-13 cfm's to spray efficiently. I don't think your compressor will produce that. Now it may work if you turned the volume down on the gun but it may then be too slow for you. I don't know what your spraying but if your doing one to two panels at a time a mini gun may be the ticket. If your doing overall paint job you wouldn't want to to go with that. Sounds like you compressor would spray this gun fine but only for a short period of time then the gun would starve for air and the compressor would need to catch up. Hope this helps thanks for watching

[@rickloera9468]

I am planning on painting a 2008 Lexus IS 250. Would the Sprayit LVLP gun work? I think it is SP30000K from sprayit.

[@gustavette8487]

@@rickloera9468 Seems to be the best choice for low CFM guns (around5 CFM). The weird thing here is that the Astro EvoT13 LVLP states in their chart that it is the lowest air consumption gun, but in the specs it is actually the highest .... although they are all around 10 - 12 CFM.

[@maxvereb3658]

Are you saying your averaging 26psi inlet pressure on both the he and the evot for base?

[@GarageNoise]

That's what I was spraying at this video. You can use less as long as your getting a smooth finish and the gun has enough air to atomize the paint. Thank's for watching, appreciate the support!

[@maxvereb3658]

Thanks for the response I'll try thus been fighting to get a smooth base with out exssevie paint

[@sergioortega5869]

For me, he needs a painter. The company where I work is to repair industrial refrigeration equipment. and they are looking for a good painter

[@larrys.206]

Which do you like better for clear coat?

[@GarageNoise]

I perfer the evot13 lower are consumption and better transfer efficiency.

[@spiropittas5477]

What psi did you spray the clear at ?

[@GarageNoise]

28psi

[@GGeorge5677]

I’m needing a clear gun for guitar builds. Think this will serve my needs on nitro?

[@GarageNoise]

Yes, absolutely but have you thought about possibly using a mini gun they make a smaller version of this gun that will have less air consumption, if that's even a concern.

[@GGeorge5677]

@@GarageNoise thought about it but don’t know to much about them. Was looking at the Iwata lph80. High quality brand for not a crazy price. I liked your video. I got the Astro 1.4 today like the one in the video. Been using a earlex 6003 hvlp turbine system. To much orange for me. But could be my lack of skills. Got a smaller needle to try out.

[@GarageNoise]

@@GGeorge5677 I really think you'll like it.

[@GGeorge5677]

Hope so . Just set up my 3m regulator and in-line filter. I’ll let ya know when I use it .

[@GarageNoise]

@@GGeorge5677 yes, definitely let me know how you like it.

[@joblo2299]

Better than a610

[@GarageNoise]

Slightly as far as finish, but the a610 has other benefits, low air consumption, low overspray, and material savings. So really depends on what your looking for.

[@joblo2299]

@@GarageNoise glass flat finish,low overspray & air comsumption is what i look for..price & paint usage dont matter..if you know that gun please share..

[@GarageNoise]

@@joblo2299 go with the a610 or orig R500

[@eldrickejleest]

Is the gun good to spray a 1 stage paint like autokryl?

[@GarageNoise]

Yes, would work great

[@teeedog1]

With the evo14 can u spray primer , base , and clear ?

[@GarageNoise]

It my be difficult to spray some thicker primers. It will spray most . Might want to get a cheap primer gun with a larger tip size.

[@teeedog1]

@@GarageNoise thanks man

[@mreightytwenty8709]

Have you used there smaller mini gun ?

[@GarageNoise]

No, but I want to test it out for sure

[@mreightytwenty8709]

@@GarageNoise Iam thinking about buying it....

[@shrigmaaa]

Is a 30 gal 5 hp compressor good enough to paint an entire car with one of these?

[@GarageNoise]

Unfortunately you'll have some fluctuations in air pressure with that compressor and this gun but I have a solution for you! Check out my channel I have a video on a lvlp paint gun that's inexpensive and can be use with a small compressor to paint you whole car because it only use 3.5 cfm's.

[@GarageNoise]

Here's the video link kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpa9d2BjrsqenMU

[@shrigmaaa]

@@GarageNoise i think im gonna go with the LT100, thanks for the help man! subscibed

[@GarageNoise]

@@shrigmaaa Lt 100 is the same gun rebranded . I have that one as well.

[@shrigmaaa]

@@GarageNoise Yup i heard you say that in the video, I guess when you made that the LT was more expensive, but now its the same price as the r500, about 70 bucks

[@joblo2299]

Evot atomize better but u use the he,,,dont make sense,,plz explain

[@GarageNoise]

The difference in atomization is not that significant. I like both those guns in fact need to break them back out for a project it's been awhile.

[@joblo2299]

@@GarageNoise i just bought evot13,,,if it spray flatter than kiwami4 with ba4 cap or auarita mp400 its a keeeper

[@INNO222]

Well I guess you twisted my arm.

[@spiropittas5477]

Hey mate just curious are you still using this gun ?

[@GarageNoise]

I haven't in awhile, not because it's not a good gun but ive been hooked on the 3m performance gun . It's cleams up very easy and sprays amazing.

[@andrelawrence9644]

An iwata bellaria will kick its ass all day for that money

[@GarageNoise]

I agree but the Iwata is a 400.00 gun. I think I paid a little over 100 for the astro.

[@andrelawrence9644]

@@GarageNoise Amazon has it cupless for a shade over 200

[@GarageNoise]

@@andrelawrence9644 That's a good price

[@rickcollins4706]

It’s pretty clear you’re not a Painter.

[@GarageNoise]

Appreciate the support bud!🤣

[@sergioortega5869]

hello my friend and sorry for the friend look I have a manager. and garlic and paint but no matter how much I give him advice, he doesn't accept advice until I really see him as good but he doesn't paint well. he doesn't regulate the spray and it looks like garbage. work from him to us. he tells us we don't clean. good. but twice it gets cleaned up. and that job is still horrible. I think it may be because Micha doesn't move the paint or move the paint before each job because when he's already dried all the work he did, I walk him back and paint balls come out. as if the paint were still fresh. you could guide me what can be. make this job of this man horrible and fix him. the way he paints he is already a man of advanced age. and you know they are very reckless and he has a beggar character

[@adriandeb2710]

Very low over spray,

[@GarageNoise]

It really was.

[@bahmanjazuie4407]

It seams that you did not paint with a good spray that you call this spray good!