Wait... trainers were originally supposed to fight Pokemon by themselves?! YOU’RE TELLING ME I COULD HAVE WRESTLED A GOD DAMN MACHAMP BARE-KNUCKLE STYLE
@TremossN5 жыл бұрын
We could have literally punched god
@partyrock70995 жыл бұрын
I think they found out that the idea of going toe to toe with creatures that can burn you, stab you, electrocute you, poison you, put you to sleep on a whim, freeze you, curse you, flay you with its mind powers, blow you up, crush you with rocks, blast you with water, blast you with beams, and/or bury underground is probably a bad idea. Make the fire breathing dragon do that instead
@pigeon19235 жыл бұрын
@@partyrock7099 would of been pretty cool. Maybe for lower level pokemon in grass if your pokemon fainted or to actual spar with your pokemon.
@yostinator815 жыл бұрын
Yes
@slevinchannel75895 жыл бұрын
Minute 2: Without further ado, let's get startet. And I'm like: "What? Yes! I'm awake! I'm fine! Go on!"
@dirtcollector5 жыл бұрын
i like to imagine marowak is like an adoptive parent because it grew up without a mother as a baby cubone and takes care of a baby pokemon it found abandoned
@Keihzaru5 жыл бұрын
"You can clearly see a baby in it's pouch" All I see is a garblked mass of pixels.
@dizzypro49745 жыл бұрын
That's probably why it wasn't put in the game in the end.
@PalehorseThirteen5 жыл бұрын
He definitely jumped to some conclusions with that one.
@xdsmile53595 жыл бұрын
Those pixels just look like a mess
@MercuryA20005 жыл бұрын
that's a case of seeing what you want to see imo.
@pawsnotclaws27725 жыл бұрын
Keihzaru lol
@billiezeiszler6085 жыл бұрын
We DID get something similar to the cut professor Oak battle
@xxxxxxxxxx90345 жыл бұрын
The battle against Professor Kukui.
@billiezeiszler6085 жыл бұрын
@@xxxxxxxxxx9034 yes exactly!
@JonathanMillerMusic5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was like uhhhh I’m fairly certain the Kukui battle was a big reference to this infamous glitch. Hahaha
@nicko39455 жыл бұрын
Good to see this comment! I was thinking the same thing
@donel5325 жыл бұрын
Gen 7: am i a joke to you
@williamgroves31345 жыл бұрын
3:42 it looks like he belongs in Dragon Ball Z rather than pokemon.
@snowinglight86515 жыл бұрын
William Groves Literally thought the same thing.
@PeterGriffin115 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheDarkFuryKnight5 жыл бұрын
ROBO Vegeta
@redmage8085 жыл бұрын
Iron Goku
@nickdentoom11735 жыл бұрын
The Cut first gym leader for me looks like a younger version of Giovanni, so its possible they re-worked his story into that of Giovanni and made him an adult. Also: The Kotora line (Electric cat), seems its been reworked into the Litten line. Just look at the back stripes. They are looking so similair that it can hardly be a coincidence. Most cut Pokemon are most likely re-worked into different mons: The Elephant into Donphan, the Deer into Stantler, the Cactus into Cacnea line, the Shark into Sharpedo, Crocky in either the Totodile or Sandile line. I like your suggestion that the Balloon Pokemon might have become the Drifloon line, but keeping in mind that Munna/Musharna originally also were supposed to be in the game, the Balloon might be reworked into them as well.
@Jostanos5 жыл бұрын
I have a theory about the Viridian City Gym: What if Giovani and Team Rocket battled the _ORIGINAL GYM LEADER_ of the Viridian Gym _before_ you (the Player/Protagonist) arrive in Viridian City, and _THAT_ is why the Viridian City Gym is _"CLOSED"_ when you arrive. If this happens to be the case.. What may have happened to the Original Gym leader and his Pokémon, and where may they be now?
@owendigo82364 жыл бұрын
yessss
@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk92144 жыл бұрын
Maybe Giovanni Killed Him??? I dont know he is From Mafia
@naghanarasimha91063 жыл бұрын
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 that's kinda dark for a children's game
@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk92143 жыл бұрын
@@naghanarasimha9106 i mean, Gen 1 also had Ghost maroak, and his Backstory is also kinda dark for a children game
@koeimaster5 жыл бұрын
The original gym guide looking like he’s there to talk about the Avengers Initiative
@shupasopni5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see see I wasn't alone thinking that!
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince5 жыл бұрын
Or like he's just had enough of these motherf*****g Ekans on this motherf*****g plane.
@xxmansoorxx20002 жыл бұрын
Lh
@LILREZY015 жыл бұрын
It woulda been fire if Gamefreak added that Oak battle to the “Lets Go” games
@grantdaily96625 жыл бұрын
Charisma stat? You mean like in Pokemon Conquest how it effect shop prices and how easy you can link with pokemon?
@RandomPopcultureNewsFreak5 жыл бұрын
hmm i was thinking more like it was an inspiration to have gamefreak make the side pokemon game Pokemon Ranger instead that what that concept to me sounded like
@WaterKirby19945 жыл бұрын
It also could have worked like how you recruited in the Gen3&4 Mystery Dungeon games
@KaiCyreus5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the battle against Kukui in Sun & Moon is a reference to the last point
@DaydreamOrca5 жыл бұрын
You should check out Dr Lava's Nintendo Cut Content. He is doing a whole series on pokemon cut content and has just reached 4th generation, but Hoops, if you catch up you guys need to collab.
@SnortStuff5 жыл бұрын
hello dr lava
@DaydreamOrca5 жыл бұрын
@@SnortStuff no
@mikebarnes74415 жыл бұрын
_clembot has entered the chat_
@sailorbobbyhill5 жыл бұрын
Yass beech come thruuu
@derrabbit72895 жыл бұрын
Kaitora and Raitora, how I wish those would have been true Pokémon! An electric cat! 😻
@mitsuwaltz5 жыл бұрын
But Shinx is an electric cat...
@LordSumSums5 жыл бұрын
Would have been my favorite Pokémon... -_-
@RadenWA5 жыл бұрын
@@LordSumSums You got Zeraora now
@marioosti8925 жыл бұрын
And Jolteon loll
@douglashammann19874 жыл бұрын
@@marioosti892 the Eeveelutions are all based off dogs lol
@jeffreystone89745 жыл бұрын
Thought you'd enjoy this, they did reference the prof oak battle in pokemon Lets go! Once you beat the elite four Oak will say "Now time for your final test, to face me!" and then he laughs and calls it a joke
@EvyDevy5 жыл бұрын
Notice how the original first gym leader has the EXACT same pose as Giovanni! It could be he was originally planned to be Giovanni.
@Amo-v275 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think they just aged him up.
@kijushiro5 жыл бұрын
Maybe its concept art from before they made team rocket
@RocketHarry8652 жыл бұрын
@@kijushiro Imagine if the gen 1 games never had team rocket
@ahel45234 жыл бұрын
The fire fighter trainer type would have been interesting because fire-fighters don't just fight fires. They deal with hazardous chemicals, perform hazard reduction operations so a trainer type that uses grass, water, fire and fighting types would have been an interesting mechanic for the pokemon games.
@diannaamundson72905 жыл бұрын
Really loving the idea of this video! I love seeing the cut content for anything but pokemon games especially, it's so cool to see how the development process evolved and trying to figure out why things were cut. Great video!
@bean_eater12095 жыл бұрын
What is with him going like 'sample texttttttt' he keeps dragging out his sentences
@mooganify5 жыл бұрын
Great, just noticed it right at the end 😂 Dreamcastguy is the worst at that
@Anchor_Wolf5 жыл бұрын
People will find anyway to drag out their video time for Ad revenue.
@cashtwonine5 жыл бұрын
It's so annoying hahahaha
@CaptainJack675 жыл бұрын
Omg it's insufferable. Like nails on a chalkboard. I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice it.
@phoenixc68125 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even notice it now I do cause of your comment thanks dickhead
@excusemeiwantedafrozenpeps77355 жыл бұрын
"Pokémon Faded", a Pokémon game where it only has the scrapped pokemon.
@iv.no45 жыл бұрын
(gets on Surfboard item) (becomes a Chansey)
@KingNexusMOCs5 жыл бұрын
It's not a Chansey
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince5 жыл бұрын
It looks more like a Chaney than any other Pokémon from Gen 1.
@mattfahringer1485 жыл бұрын
I don't play pokemon and I still enjoy hearing about cut content
@rosemilktea67405 жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of videos! If you made more for the other regions I would absolutely watch them.
@RafaelElectronic5 жыл бұрын
The lil baby Raikou is ADORABLE
@nineteenct5 жыл бұрын
I WANT ONE
@Elisabeth-tq3jr5 жыл бұрын
Leaf/Green/Blue was originally intended to be a playable character, but was cut for data space.
@bryanvalles17345 жыл бұрын
You got all of that from the marowak evolution sprite?
@markvk21595 жыл бұрын
Theres quite a lot of over reaching un yhis video haha
@bryanvalles17345 жыл бұрын
@@markvk2159 haha
@markvk21595 жыл бұрын
@@bryanvalles1734 on this * video was meant to say. Like the whip being used to fight pokemon 😂
@markvk21595 жыл бұрын
And the little electric thing becoming Raikou
@maqma_21185 жыл бұрын
No, the devs actally confirmed you were originally supposed to do that.
@felipepaze5 жыл бұрын
5:14 is only me that think the Ichitarou look like Krilin
@33foxs5 жыл бұрын
cant unsee it now
@deaddead6985 жыл бұрын
Giovani probably stole that gym from the kid, hence why the leader wasn’t there until end game
@joshuacastle44575 жыл бұрын
It seems that Hoops didn't notice the nod to the cut Prof. Oak battle in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee.
@PelemusMcSoy5 жыл бұрын
Or the battle against Prof Kukui for the Alolan Pokemon League in Sun/Moon.
@Lil-Dragon5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video Hoops. I enjoyed it. Hope everyone has a great day.
@haxthehuman4095 жыл бұрын
1:56 introduction is over
@JackWolf15 жыл бұрын
14:50 Someone at Nintendo must have remembered this idea, because this is pretty much what Leon, the Galar Champion, does in Sword and Shield.
@outcast50185 жыл бұрын
its a good job red lost his whip. could you imagine all the.."art" people would of made about him and blues sister
@plant73715 жыл бұрын
oh no, now they know
@lgbtqiarights4 жыл бұрын
nah man that’s just you
@ABlueStitchInTime5 жыл бұрын
whoa that marowak evolution sprite should have its own video WHAT WHAT WHAT. It has a baby in a pouch ?? omg the Kanghaskhan theory is true!!! Why is this not bigger news! I HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS MOMENT ! THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE FIND.
@xxpostivefoxxx40705 жыл бұрын
You really deserve more subscribers! The videos you make are amazing!
@BlackCroLong5 жыл бұрын
3:14 wrong. The trainers use them to train their pokemon
@lordjs97265 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, man. I hope that bird from the Tajiri manga will someday show up in a game. I call it Birdie NamNam.
@ShinyChiaki5 жыл бұрын
3:38 Yo what's up, Goku? "He was a robot trainer." Huh... Also what I would have liked the most out of this beta content to actually make it to the final games are the cut Pokemon, Shinjuku Jack and the Illusory Monsters idea. While the charisma thing is interesting in some sense, it would have changed Pokemon to something I would not love as much (same goes for humans battling Pokemon with whips instead of sending out a Pokemon.)
@bugjams5 жыл бұрын
So.. an illusory green dragon that was super rare and powerful? I wonder if Dragonite's shiny colors are a reference to that.
@weston12115 жыл бұрын
14:20 My theory to the infamous cut Prof Oak battle is that it was supposed to be a final boss battle, Oak would put Red down as the champion forcing red to battle Oak, but it is really Imposter Oak, a card from the original tcg!
@NovaChief5 жыл бұрын
Since viridian has so many bug types maybe the viridian gym is a bug type gym or normal since you can also get many normal types
@brycevo5 жыл бұрын
So much of those cut Pokemon are so cool
@mizusenshisongs5 жыл бұрын
I think the Professor Oak battle is a really interesting thing and I kinda wish it wasn't cut, especially since they did kinda incorporate the idea into Gens 6 and 7, since in X and Y you battle Sycamore at least once and in Alola Kukui acts as the final boss of sorts after you defeat the Elite 4.
@maganhassan26275 жыл бұрын
Loved this kind of content, the behind of the scenes of pokemon, please do more for the other gens.
@HatredSonneillon5 жыл бұрын
So looking at some of the old Pokemon concepts, like the weedle design and the cactus design, they both look like Mario enemies. Plus the fact that the main character is a boy that wears a red hat, red jacket and blue jeans... Could Pokemon have been part of Mario at some point?
@alyanzahid8815 жыл бұрын
@Bright Idea like??
@majintar98765 жыл бұрын
More like inspiration from Mario
@xavierlagore55694 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Dragonite evolves into Yoshi.
@retroknightarcade68175 жыл бұрын
Awesome video hoops keep it up
@carlosdurand15225 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Hoops!!
@darkpit13035 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stretching the GB footage to 16:9, makes it really nice to watch
@RLomoterenge5 жыл бұрын
The whip was to train the pokemon not to fight the pokemon. Wtf? 4:54 That IS Blaine
@mayamoon92075 жыл бұрын
This video is really interesting. I only knew about the prof Oak cut battle
@kablamo985 жыл бұрын
A battle against Professor Oak was referenced in the fight against Professor Kukui in SM. There was also the perfectly timed entrance of professor oak whilst Lance was saying the final trainer you had to battle was in Let’s Go.
@Ham_9915 жыл бұрын
The best cut content from Generation 8 was... O V E R H A L F T H E P O K É M O N .
@HollowIchigoKurosaki5 жыл бұрын
The way you speak reminders me exactly of PokeTips Mike. Very similar style of speaking. That aside, interesting video, will probably watch the rest of the videos.
@Teirusu1555 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they didn't do the Illusory Monsters idea, because one shot tedious searching sounds VERY unfun.
@ThrE3-GeS5 жыл бұрын
Im wondering what prof. Oak would say if he catches me walking thru tall grass allone, if it would be supossed to fight pokemon by ourselfes???
@xlro8f8535 жыл бұрын
Good video; I always saw Proff Kakui as a reference to the Oak cut content
@TenkaichiBudokaiAnnouncer5 жыл бұрын
Before doing Sinnoh, I DARE YOU to do 1 on XD Gale of Darkness. I'd love to know what almost got into a game ft Mirror B
@raichelstad99115 жыл бұрын
2:34 Beta-Red was strictly business with that whip, wasn't trying to be friends with no pocket monsters.
@elilopez62605 жыл бұрын
If they kept the whole "fight pokemon yourself" there would absolutely be "Can you beat Pokemon without any pokemon?" challenges
@neri12205 жыл бұрын
Battling professor? How about Kukui. Yup. It happened.
@choueriito25483 жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting with the Danpei case that this isn't the only Ashita no Joe reference in the franchise. In the episode of the original series with the fighting Pokemon tournament where Ash/Satoshi releases Primeape, he tells Pikachu when fighting Hitmonchan near the start to use the "Ashita no tame ni" (For the sake of tomorrow) techniques which is what Danpei tutored the titular Joe in.
@HatredSonneillon5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that theres a Pokemon that is a gorilla wearing a hat. The name is translated as Gorillaimo from ゴリライモ which can also be translated as Goriraimo where the "raim" part sounds like rhyme. Possibly the original Grooky concept?
@HatredSonneillon5 жыл бұрын
Plus he looks like a rapper with his hat.
@HatredSonneillon5 жыл бұрын
Or he looks like HoopsandHipHop with his hat.
@HatredSonneillon5 жыл бұрын
helixchamber.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/1990_Lostmon_Gorillaimo.png for those that want to see what im talking about.
@wolfrayne83555 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating! I love it. Thanks for this great video! And thanks for linking the helix website, that's super interesting. I'm going to spend hours studying this. Quick note when you mention the mirage Pokemon that especially interested me, because if you remember in cinnabar island in gen 1, they were pamphlets scattered around the lab ruins if you chose to explore that depicted the development of mew. These documents described mew as "wondered if it was a mirage." The same is said in Mew's Pokedex entry, "...still thought to be a mirage... "
@datfox28445 жыл бұрын
I think the kukui battle was an oak callback and the surfboard in let's go was a reference to the OG surfboard
@Luis-un8do5 жыл бұрын
My man with the Fairy Tail references. Love it!!!!!
@joshuab45865 жыл бұрын
I like to think Raitora, Arcanine, and the Suicune/Raikou-beta design got “recycled” into the 3 legendary beasts for gen 2, which could explain the weirdness of the 2nd episode with the Arcanine/3 Birds art
@MonsterKollector5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Boylan Arcanine was supposed to be a legendary Pokémon but got downgraded
@joshuab45865 жыл бұрын
MetalMonkey yeah that’s what I mean, he was supposed to be legendary in Gen 1 but got swapped out with ho-oh but then the fire dog idea got reused as entei there’s actually Japanese mythology that could play a role in it too with the foo-dogs
@ryaquaza3offical5 жыл бұрын
I just find it funny that people where originally going to battle the Pokemon themselves. Like seriously how would that even work?! “I’m ready to battle! Fear my deadly whip that will leave a minor laceration if your not careful” “Well, Ok then, I’ll send out my 50 foot long snake made out of solid rock” ....... “I’m starting to regret my life choices”
@haydendivine86314 жыл бұрын
I always hated the concept of HMs. A waste of a move, a spot on your team by using HM slaves, and not being able to delete the move is such bullshit
@Hellfalcon6664 жыл бұрын
A lot of those cut pokémon are now in the games, like that shark looks like mega-Sharpedo, cactus is Cacnea or Cacturne, Mecha Godzilla looks like Duraludon from gen 8.
@-jules-54495 жыл бұрын
I think the Marowak evo could've just been a female Marowak carrying the Cubone until she dies, then Cubone would get the skull on her head. It'd be interesting if that was it, especially if your Pokemon could die instead of just fainting- then maybe you'd get a Cubone when your Marowak dies?
@noodnood96685 жыл бұрын
Please make one for every generation, it would just be awesome!
@jello_sauce5 жыл бұрын
Read the the title of the video again and actually think :)
@GabrielBoeing5 жыл бұрын
the "Illusory" in "Illusory Monsters" is literally just a direct translation of "幻" from "幻のポケモン", which is how mythical pokémon are refered to in Japanese...
@kushagra645 жыл бұрын
5:14 he was a gym trainer who we will fight against before Brock he was replaced by geovani
@BoneyMiles5 жыл бұрын
But, but they did reference it in SM, Professor Kukui is the final trainer you battle before becoming champion, using the starter that was not picked.
@NikkiWrightVGM5 жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons they probably ditched the idea of the Viridian Gym being first was that at that point in the game you'd only had access to a handful of Pokémon like Pidgey/Rattata/Mankey/Nidoran and your starter so there wouldn't be much in the way of variety strategy and choice wise. Judging by the generic look of the cut character it probably would of been a Normal type-themed gym too.
@some_man_tiks5 жыл бұрын
I'd love for the Pokemon games to be eventually be released as the were originally intended. Like put the green drag idea in and everything that they wanted to do. It'd be different but awesome to experience. I got one request for the next cut content video. Please, oh please do a collab with Dr. Lava.
@sharkx81765 жыл бұрын
The cut character at 5:21 makes me think of zeldris (from 7 deadly sins)
@themaskedblueknight74905 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter, Hoops.
@MediumDSpeaks5 жыл бұрын
How do you animate cyndaquil like that
@davisrailey41575 жыл бұрын
Now you can add half the original Pokémon to this list
@MostlyPonies14 жыл бұрын
I hate when KZbinrs yell to talk. I have my phone volume at minimum and I can still hear his mic peaking every 5 seconds, can't imagine listening to this at normal volume.
@MrJames-te4bw4 жыл бұрын
The "Silph Chief" looks like Stan Lee
@PikachuODST5 жыл бұрын
Best cut content from every generation. Talks about kanto n johto
@pokestar145 жыл бұрын
A charisma stat and enticing the pokemon? So it would've become an SMT game?
@KoshTimeStepper5 жыл бұрын
Love this cut content stuff. Hope to see more in the future.
@HexterXD5 жыл бұрын
This gave me an idea. I could make a fan comic with that robotic Jack guy.
@TheTazame5 жыл бұрын
i feel like shiny raichu is an omage to gorochu seeing as the colors are the same
@Femboymercy5 жыл бұрын
Fairy tail nicknames are the best 🤪
@aestheticsauce62644 жыл бұрын
The Tora ones became Marill (probably) their designs for the body similar
@ramonechristianeeacepcion68144 жыл бұрын
I think the name of the Unova gym coach who always gives you fresh water is Clyde right?
@pawsnotclaws27725 жыл бұрын
I really love this series!!
@girltalk085 жыл бұрын
7:33 the first gym leader concept has a circle on his girl similar to the girl who looks like jessy’s concept art. So it seems like they were having that gym leader be linked to team rocket the whole time.
@russellharrell27475 жыл бұрын
Phil Garrett looks like a cross between Sabrina and Jesse. Maybe that kid was her brother, you beat him first because he’s super easy, travel around the country, then come back to face the REAL gym leader, the older sister.
@MeiteiReviews5 жыл бұрын
They probably could've easily added the Prof. Oak battle after the last battle against the rival. It's a shame they didn't do that
@derekminna5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Keep it up. I do like this for an idea of a video series. Looking forward to the next.
@animaniacjokerman955 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff Hoops!
@xCrowley335 жыл бұрын
"Quick voiceover" 17 minutes later..
@OnlySamCan4 жыл бұрын
Seth Yosef it’s been so long I forgot this was the same video till I read your comment.
@BeIlG5 жыл бұрын
It is known that the Prof Oak battle was going to be leaf but her data was never put into the game(of possibly fleshed out at all) so it was cut. This is why they have the 3rd starter unpicked.
@rat72995 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I really hope Gorochu comes back in some way it’s so cute! Edit: My idea on the Cubone and Kangaskan relationship is that if the mother kangaskan died, the purple baby would take/be given the skull of its mother. After wearing it overtime it becomes a Cubone and the spirit of the mother stays a lonely Kangaskan OR becomes a Marowak.
@tmnt21055 жыл бұрын
Looking back at cut pokemon, some of them were not put the final product.
@ThatYouTubeNoobWatch5 жыл бұрын
tmnt2105 that’s why there cut...?
@WaterKirby19945 жыл бұрын
Some of the cut pokemon looked better than the final product, such as Beta Hoppip Line. Also let's not forget the Shellder that becomes part of Slowbro was a cut pokemon. Such a shame that many of these cut Pokemon never became real even after Gen4.
@Spika945 жыл бұрын
The baby in a pouch to me looks to me like she's holding her arms around a child with one hand atop the head of the child. (the 3 claw looking things)