The Best Firefighting Planes in Action.

[@beefeekeefee]

I live in southern Oregon. Back in 2018 we had a bad wildfire season. Air quality steadily diminished over a three week period and several residents in our county passed away from respiratory issues. One day I heard a jet aircraft flying low and went outside in time to see an Il-76 tanker flying maybe 2000 ft overhead. Man those things are loud! Then it flew over again 20 minutes later and a third time after that. I heard that they were trying to get properly lined up with the spotter plane to make the drop. In any case, they did what they do, and the next day the smoke was 50% better, and within a week the fires were contained and the air was clear again.

[@kendallevans4079]

That is a Russian aircraft! You are saying it was in operation in Oregon in 2018? I find that very hard to believe, thus I find YOU very hard to believe

[@dgsantafedave1]

I have seen a lot of airshows in my day especially growing up near Travis AFB, but, no one puts on a better show than CALFIRE! The amount of firefighting capabilities of these people are amazing! I have been evacuated 3 times where I live now and all three times we were saved by CALFIRE and there air operations. They have only gotten better with the inclusion of the Firehawk helicopter!

[@Airline_Nerd]

Watching these planes in action is an amazing experience! These planes are real heroes!

[@robc.5745]

Those jet sea planes are the coolest.

[@nedeniaholm4369]

My fiance died in an air crash in 1979. He was a copilot. God bless all crew on these planes. There apparently is a new aircraft in the skies in Canada? I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the craft right now.

[@garyhorton9827]

The comment that the Martin Mars started it's military service in 1959 isn't true. My father, Aviation Machinist Mate Chief George Horton, was the Flight Engineer on the Hawaii Mars when i was born in 1952, and stationed in Kalihi Lagoon , Honolulu, Hawaii. As there were only 6, the 7th burned in the cradle, the Hawaii was fitted with redundant engineering panels so as to provide on-the-job training for that position. When Coulson Aviation took her over, they switched out the 2nd panel for the fire controls.

[@fiskit]

it ended military service in 1959, and the model is JRM-3 not JM-170

[@paulsmodels]

700 and 47 What?

[@petermarsh5762]

According to a Wikipedia a CL-415 applied 162100 US gallons over a 4 hour period on a wildfire. I don’t know of any other aircraft that can deliver water at that rate.

[@dbyers3897]

The rate depends on the proximity of the fire to a scoop-able water source. It is also a very agile aircraft allow for extremely low & slow drops.

[@petermarsh5762]

@@dbyers3897 I know I flew them for 30 seasons before retiring.

[@marklittle8805]

They are good for quality and quantity of drops. Other planes drop more but they can't reload as fast. I think the Mars in the right situation can do amazing things but it rarely has a water source it can use easily. The Canadairs seem to be able to scoop almost anywhere

[@petermarsh5762]

@@marklittle8805 The concept is gallons/ hour. Nothing comes close. Also there is no Martin Mars firefighter as they’ve been retired and withdrawn from service.

[@marklittle8805]

@@petermarsh5762 I knew the Martin was out of the game. Too much maintenance and logistics

[@anthonyjohnson100]

C-130’s are the best airplanes ever!!

[@penelopelgoss2520]

You all may know that a few years ago, the 747 air bomber was taken out of service. The operators, if I remember correctly, could no longer afford to keep the giant flying, and the maintenance costs were too high. It did not pass the inspection requirements and thus the certification was denied. Watching her fly with such agility in the skies over California's worst fire was spectacular. Now we rely on the converted DC-10 and other aircraft locally stationed as well as those the state leases to cover the heaviest fire season months. Many may know that the state of California has almost reached a 365 day, full year-round fire season. 😮😮 the heavy rainfall we have received this year, 2024, thus far will definitely challenge out personnel and equipment to its maximum. Hope, pray, and keep positive thoughts that California and other states make it through the coming season.

[@edsalinas9996]

You also want to understand that the 747's engine were a little too delicate. The don't like ingesting smoke.

[@phantomf4747]

Kalifornistan resident here. Slight correction. The governor (Gaping Screwsome) changed the inspection requirements so it would fail without millions of dollars in changes to the aircraft. I work at KMCC (McClellan Field) and toured the plane with the owner. He got shafted by the governor for speaking out against the complete lack of forest management in Kalifornia. So, that said we lost a much-needed firefighting asset that helped a lot of people. If you noticed or track aircraft like I do, the initial attacks now are instant from CDF and CalFire. The state is in red ink and can barely afford to pay them.

[@evanstauffer4470]

I believe two issues were that the operational cost of the 747 was significantly higher that that of the DC-10. Also as I understand it, the DC-10 was much more maneuverable at low altitudes and slow speeds than the 747.

[@evanstauffer4470]

@@phantomf4747 CalFire is the correct name. "CDF" is the old name for the same organization. The smaller CalFire tanker aircraft can take off and land on much shorter runways than the "Very Large Air Tankers", so they can be positioned at regional airports around the state (closer to fire scenes) that the Very Large Air Tankers cannot use. Also it was my understanding that the U.S. Forest Service and the FAA set the standards of air tankers.

[@CraigAllen-re9bf]

​@@phantomf4747Greasy Gavin NEWSOLINI the SHYSTER COMMIE CLOWN 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Priveteers, Neptunes have been retired. Well Done!

[@andrewmaskell420]

If you arte going to comment on aircraft you should know the difference between a seaplane, a flying boat and an amphibian. A Seaplane has floats. An aircraft that lands on water using the fuselage is a FLYING BOAT, Like the Mars.

[@markdavis8888]

Turbo-fan aircraft can not slow down or maneuver to deliver water or retardant accurately. It does not matter how much can be carried if it does not drop where it needs to be. The USFS repurposing of old planes has been a disaster with several midair wing failures. The DHC-515 is the real purpose built super scooper that out preforms all other wildfire resources.

[@NotSureJoeBauers]

Meh for the money two AT 802 out perform the CL 415

[@alco4248]

How does the DHC-515 out perform all other wildfire resources, when they haven't even built one yet?

[@edutaimentcartoys]

also suitable for agriculture

[@phineascampbell3103]

Wow, these planes can milk cows as well!! That's impressive; i bet they can fly by and do an entire herd in seconds...! 😆

[@michaelt.9372]

The DC10 is not gravity fed when filled. Gravity filling takes about 45 mins. Ask me how i know lmao Alsp the c130 is generally sitting at a capacity of 4000 gallons

[@amgoneisdope]

Imagine seeing your home almost get burned by fire then all of a sudden A water bomber saves it I would cry

[@davidharris2519]

IT IS NOT C-ONE HUNDRED 30 JUST PLAIN C-130

[@wornoutwrench8128]

You need to redo the Martin Mars, you have many things wrong and these aircraft have not been used for active fire fighting for years, they are both on their way to museums

[@johnosbourn4312]

The Boeing Supertanker is not known as the "700 and 47", instead, it's known as the 747 Supertanker.

[@sotm6078]

You talk aircraft numbers weird!

[@grahamkearnon6682]

Very misleading video. The very large jet powered water tankers are next to useless. Imagine how many suitable lakes are available to them, the Mars air tankers were retired due to the assessment that only 7 lakes in British Columbia (massive cdn province) could handle their water pickup run.

[@alco4248]

There are far more than 7 lakes that they could pick up water from. Not sure where you got that info. They were retired because they were extremely old, and too expensive to operate.

[@regsparkes6507]

" 4 feet or 2 metres",... better re-check your conversion chart again,... more like 6 feet in 2 metres.

[@davidharris2519]

once again NOT FOUR HUNDRED FIFTEEN just plain 415

[@sergeant_salty]

Doesn't get better than the AT-802 for me. it's like the A-10 of aerial firefighting

[@241269ablefm]

Beriev be-12, you for got, very god fire fither !

[@brianrigsby7900]

14:07 huh. I’ve never seen blue water coming from one of these…what’s in it?

[@robertwebber2220]

It is pronounced "seven forty seven"" not "seven hundred forty seven!"

[@allantavares23]

aqui no brasil tinha que ter esse tipo de combate a incendio

[@ΝΙΚΟΣΒΟΓΙΑΤΖΑΚΗΣ]

My family are firefighters in our days the fires are impossible to extinguish. Fir greece because we have a near sea access we use Canadair and helicopters Ericson. Still the fires don't stop

[@JillandKevin]

The Martin Mars Hawaii has just been decommissioned and moved to B.C. Aviation Museum in Greater Victoria, Canada last month.

[@Dartman6]

The 747 has been grounded as a tanker, only one was built and it has been converted to freight carrying configuration. The only piece of info on the Martin Mars is that there were 7 built, it's the JRM Mars, not JMR. Four Mars were acquired to be converted to fire bombing in 1959, not 2 .

[@micstonemic696stone]

The c-130 Hercules has also been fitted with a firefighting Water release system but the water comes out of the left side door rather than the back on the centre line unfortunately I have seen two of these aircraft break up as they release the water I can't help feeling this is because of the side release it's got a door on the back and should have released it on the centre line then I believe this should work RIP to the crews lost

[@grahammonk8013]

@micstonemic696stone The C130 tankers that crashed were 45 years old, and had not been maintained in the way it was supposed to. All C130 water bombers have been banned from operating on BLM areas.

[@micstonemic696stone]

@@grahammonk8013 then that project using those aircraft shouldn't have done that especially after the first breakup old aircraft that fail their job well likely to have micro fractures and maybe worse I hear it is possible to keep a plane flying for as long as time is put in to insure parts get replaced when necessary

[@dbyers3897]

Altering older airframes to be used for a mission they were not designed for carries added risks. Cal Fire acquired some old C-130s but it's taken years to get them into a condition to be safely utilized as water tankers. IE, water is very heavy & it moves in the cargo bay unlike previous cargo loads. How much baffling can you afford before the weight ratio is such that it isn't worth carrying the modules?

[@micstonemic696stone]

@@dbyers3897 a water bomber must release the load along the central line of the aircraft Isaac Newton's Third Law also has an effect here and may just be the reason why 2 old Hercules broke up

[@josephszot5545]

Like the BE-200 (think there's a BE-2000) I wonder if the Kremlin ever considered rewingng the IL-76 with top of wing engines and making lake skimming possible?

[@davidharris2519]

it is not seven hundred seven forty seven just plain 747

[@micstonemic696stone]

Did you watch Flying Wild Alaska when they had a difficult flight to sell two Bombardier water bombers to Turkey however when one of the Turkish pilots came into land on a runway he did not have his wheels down Turkey hadn't yet paid for these aircraft and I don't know if they did Does anyone know what happened I'm not sure

[@alco4248]

Ice Pilots NWT, not Flying Wild Alaska.

[@micstonemic696stone]

@@alco4248 my mistake I like watching this type of aviation documentary

[@Woody615]

WAY too old. All of the 747s were retired several years ago. The Mars was retired because of the politics in British Columbia stopped them from using it. It's now permanently retired and has been transferred to a local museum.

[@alco4248]

It wasn't politics that retired them, it was the cost of operations. They were used in more places than just BC, and all of those places found other, less expensive aircraft to hire.

[@kendallevans4079]

Miss pronouncing "Bombardier" makes you lose ALL credibility!

[@johnosbourn4312]

Actually the 747 is not the largest passenger plane in the World, instead that title goes to the Airbus A-380 Superjumbo.

[@MukuluGaz]

why cant they make more water bombers like the B200

[@dbyers3897]

Simple, it's Russian built & they're a bit busy right now.

[@faizul541]

Boeing Seven Hundred Forty Seven 😂😂😂

[@dbyers3897]

I believe the narrator is Irish & their English pronunciations are a bit different. No problem.

[@WhiskeyGulf71]

I stopped watching as soon as I heard 700 & 47 ! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@vandalsgarage]

And "Bomba-deer" instead of Bomb-bar-dee-a

[@SarntRexxo]

Boo hoo

[@grantmiller6570]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@billdudley4598]

It was actually a good documentary

[@stuartnash3529]

Don’t winge if your house was in danger you wouldn’t care wat it was

[@KensHobbies409]

Dam..another one that says kil-o-meters wrong! Kilo means 1000 & DOES NOT CHANGE!!! Why is it so hard to say AWE, AH in place of the "O" in the word KILO? Metre means distance. volts is Power Pressure, Watts is amount of Power, Gram is weight. Do You say kilawe in front of those last 3 words? Answer is NO!! Why just the ONE WORD? US, I'm sorry to say is teaching the World that We all have to change words.

[@Ricky40369]

Who writes this crap?

[@byronmarshall3924]

Far too few aircraft available. WWII was won by a massive air fleet.. need the same for the fires.

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

The CL415 holds 1800 gallons. The Air Tractor holds 800 gallons. Something seems wrong. The CL415 seems much, much, much larger and more powerful.

[@dbyers3897]

I think you missed the point with this aircraft. It can scoop & drop many more times per hour than larger airframes which must land to refill. Check out some newer versions: Viking CL-415EAF (Enhanced Aerial Firefighter) & DeHavilland Aircraft of Canada DHC-515 Firefighter

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

@@dbyers3897 I’m not questioning the usefulness. I’m unclear on the engineering. Just looking at the size of the wings and engines, I would have guessed that the CL 415 would carry 4 times the weight

[@NotSureJoeBauers]

@@OhNoNotAgain42 Its a heavy plane. Large airframe. The 802 punches way above its weight.

[@SanderLleshi-cf1ln]

Cool . Why this plane it's landing and collecting water ,from the 🌊 I've heard that the impact of a plane in 🌊 it's fatal. 😮

[@modern_memory]

bomb-ba-DEER

[@sanniepstein4835]

Bom bar dyay

[@AndrewEvrard-oc8ig]

I stopped watching as soon as I heard 700 and forty seven

[@inferno7169]

If I had the money to buy any of these planes I would by the air tractor

[@evanstauffer4470]

Each aircraft has its strengths and weaknesses. The reality is that a mix of aircraft is what works best.

[@davidharris2519]

lear how to properly pronounce not Ilusheen but ilushin

[@rodrigothomaz8599]

In Brazil, the Amazon catches fire and does not have an aircraft to fight the fire 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@metallist23]

il 76 beast

[@spikespa5208]

The "ill seventysix?" Hope it gets better soon.

[@Dbodell8000]

God I hate that word hero’s.

[@sonnybooth5235]

Then way don't thay use them. Live in CA. THAT SHIT DONT HAPPEN.

[@davidlarry780]

You’ve shown that cartoon drop like 5x in 2min. I’m out.

[@mwalako]

That was just the first plane being reviewed.

[@derrickharvey7487]

So innacurate... find another job

[@outofhere7623]

Get the names of the planes correct