The BEST Game Sense In Melee!

[@Kazaam1996]

Toph’s been pumping out content lately and I love it.

[@NoBigDealMedia]

I think it was Rishi who tweeted once that one of the "best feelings in melee is doing something you've never done before knowing that it's going to work. and it does. "

[@viceroi9332]

Hello Toph

[@gregoryrothemich6844]

The rhythm game at the start was nuts. Amazing to see how fast their hands were going. But also love that this devolved/ascended to a Lord appreciation video

[@jojivlogs_4255]

you think thats impressive, high level clone hero would blow your fucking mind

[@TLoZSR]

@@jojivlogs_4255 to add some context here, timing is a huge part of iidx, when you see the blue "GREAT" text it means he's timing the note perfectly (1/30th of a second). This chart toph shows is very technical but not from a pure notespam standpoint. I'd argue that what toph shows is more impressive than top level clone hero stuff, but it is very different. If you want to see how far this game can go in the notespam category, look up "bms overjoy" (timing is usually less strict in bms).

[@lolislayer4944]

@@TLoZSR yeah different types of difficult for sure. Clone hero has a pretty massive hit window but usually yeah charts are more dense

[@jojivlogs_4255]

@@TLoZSR yes, im familiar with the concept of precision scoring lol. this comment has the same energy as "1 frame invincible move, 5 viable characters, childrens party game omegalul" but more subtle. clone hero does have a chonker hit window if you arent using precision mode, but the vast majority of top players don't use anywhere close to the whole hit window and it's quite frowned upon to do so. and when the nps increases in clone hero, it's not just spam. there are several standardized patterns (and a bunch of variations and odd ones that you only see in a few songs) and methods to hit them. just like the way characters in melee have kill confirms and combos that only work at certain percents and on certain characters. and, just like melee, people who inhabit adjacent communities think the game is amateurish compared to other games in the genre because they have an amateur understanding of the game.

[@TLoZSR]

@@jojivlogs_4255 damn I hit a sore spot lol. Was just trying to explain that there's a lot more to this play than toph points out

[@Kirie1617]

I’m a nurse and I often equate game sense to critical thinking. In my profession having and developing game sense allows you to make and execute plans quickly and effectively. I think critical thinking is an amazing skill to develop regardless what profession you’re in. Those who critical think end up being excellent problem solvers when facing adversity.

[@supersapphire]

omg im so glad you showed the gahtzu lord match its so underrated and one of my favorite sets of all time because you can see the old school vs new school playstyle and how it still holds up, super sick content toph!

[@fraserweist3793]

At 21:38 when Toph is rewatching Lord's nair drift, he keeps extending Axe's weird laugh sound and I was DYING

[@patgundaker4085]

I love how toph dissects melee in these vids its so nice to watch as someone who is pretty new to the game

[@JF3T]

This breakdown of the clips really shows how your subconscious really processes things much faster if you let it do so, but the amazing thing is being able to really shift in and out of that subconscious, like noting when stuff works and when it didn’t.

[@TotzIsInsane]

Subscription tab is my KZbin bookmark. The algorithm feels pretty terrible to me nowadays

[@r_bear]

Speaking of n0ne and Lord, they played a really long session toward the end of last year (same week as the Axe clip). I can't link the vid because that's Not Allowed by KZbin comments, but if you search KZbin for "lord n0ne" the highlights will show up! They're sick

[@rockyino99]

I feel like the way toph and scar talk, they are modern day philosophers but instead of thinking about the world they think about the impacts of video games, the depth and deeply think/discuss them

[@somaghost]

Mango pushing armada off to the ledge by dashing through his sheild and down smashing at Genesis 2 Best on the spot problem solving I can remember seeing in high stakes melee

[@ProScubaEngineer]

I always navigate to my subscriptions first and then got to home when I run out of videos. How else would I know I haven't missed a video?

[@moeeyeguy531]

Same

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

Game sense is massively important in FPS games. For example, a scrub will stand on a roof and shoot. A good player will have the game sense to go prone, because he knows it makes his profile harder to hit

[@xClayofTheOmega]

Joined - played you on the Reads back in the day and this content has been fire 🔥. Keep it goin fam!

[@RoundCubee]

DO NOT STOP WITH THE TOPH TALKS PUMP THIS SHIT OUT I LOVE IT

[@ThePharphis]

Man, high level rhythm game play is always so impressive to me. I got pretty good at DDR (no bar, just foam pad) and basically hit a wall for what was possible with the tools I had available. I don't think I could have gone much further without a complete change (using a bar, for one), anyway, but it definitely was fun to sight-read no songs that was at a reasonable difficulty for my skill level :)

[@lukemuffinz]

Toph cranking out these videos like Frenzy cranks out lasers on FD.

[@himmelhero]

Toph just want you to know I loved your stepmania files back in the day :)

[@TaylorJohnHardin]

Love the Toph videos! We have been waiting for this channel for ever!

[@BL3446]

Idk how many back and forths N0ne v Zain have had. (It looked like those friendlies with your roommate where you know all of the tricks.) But I totally see him as a mindset player like that. "It makes him more honest" N0ne knows he is gonna lose on some of these gambits, but if you never do them Zain knows he can always go for the standard options.

[@Dyleniz]

I agree with the statement about flow if you play a lot a get to a certain level like not the top level but good to do things automatically its amazing I fell this once everyweek and its the reason why I play rhythm games

[@CaptainFicus]

that none vs zain breakdown is insane

[@fashionweek0]

watching lord on the reads had so much impact on the way i see the game. i still spam laser ftilt every time i play falco

[@BL3446]

Not to dig on Mango's game sense, because he is the epitome of it in Melee rn. But he has played the Falco-Yoshi mu enough to know that Shine breaks armor pretty reliably. Applying it off stage there is definitely dank, but I do think that is something he knew going into that hit rather than just thinking of it on the fly.

[@vaffanculoutube]

the part about doing things that you didn't know you could do is super true suuuper addicting

[@puunk_9240]

Lord has some of the nastiest tilts in the game and I mean that in more than one way

[@lankyjuggler]

Lord ep is def what got me into The Reads. He's something else.

[@sporesnipers]

Lord on the reads was amazing

[@sweetshoez]

That game reminds me of sound voltex. I played that when I went to Tokyo and that game is *litty*

[@sharkkedy]

as a jazz musician yeah, melee is like jazz. the meme holds lol

[@muqmanor]

I will never ever ever for as long as I live understand how people play those rhythm games. They look so insanely hard

[@python395]

Games that require incredibly fast reactions like melee or the rhythm game you showed have the potential to put you into a literal meditative state. When you are so present, your hands are moving on their own, you have no thought, and at the end you're wondering "...woah wtf did I just do" that single-pointed concentration you had on the game could be consider a like mini Samadhi, which is the Buddhist/Hindu word for that state of pure concentration that can be achieved through meditation. Anyway, yeah melee is sick as fuck.

[@kamirandadah7977]

I feel like taking from chess, what is sometimes called gimmicks can be called gambits.

[@ohDJ_]

New cut looking fresh af

[@GirlsBloood]

Need more Lord content in my life

[@NBDbingo5]

Back home we refer to "gimmicks" as tricks

[@colinmurphy2214]

Hadn’t heard of lord, thanks for putting him on my radar!

[@SuperBugCatcher]

love nutty n0ne. Then I got to the Lord section. Love Lord play so much.

[@danb1809]

I definitely get what you mean when you say that the feeling of using your intuition in a game can be addicting Ive felt this with the Pokemon Drayano hacks the most where the games are significantly harder than vanilla versions but never unfair so in any given situation you always know that there is some strategy you can make up to win the battle And whenever a boss battle ends up being pretty easy its disappointing because you play the games because you want to be challenged and use your Pokemon knowledge to its utmost extent (I feel like competitive smash players are in the same vein where winning a match isnt very rewarding when the opponent isnt playing their best)

[@ThePharphis]

I, uh, exclusively go to my subscriptions tab

[@-eea32]

This video is amazing keep it up please

[@TheBalancePod]

Alright damn, I subscribed.

[@Beutings]

Does it cover the roll to the right, though?

[@LuSiDious]

13:23-13:59 Melee is like....an onion

[@JustJackForReal]

How do I play melee?

[@lambchu6459]

Get a melee 1.02 iso Get slippi Play melee

[@icepopz1152]

Let’s go Toph!

[@herbmaaster]

I find myself playing a LOT of Jubeat whenever i find a machine at a con or arcade. have you played?

[@sway5201]

9 am is beer time for me too 😎

[@江建国-p9q]

I kinda feel like game sense is similar to when athletes are in “the zone”

[@Bluex12345]

Golden Guardians needs a falcon player!!!!

[@Luigiman59able]

Good stuff.

[@pokepat460]

More rhythm game lore plz

[@mishascokalo784]

can’t find the red button, mines gray

[@darylsdog9521]

Love the hair bro

[@mrlucius57]

Good stuff

[@falcojp2548]

Let's go Toph

[@omarg2079]

Hello Toph and Chat 👋

[@mangosweat7743]

Lord is nuts

[@joshpeppers5061]

i navigate by subscription tab sadge

[@reyrose3689]

Just commenting for the algorithm 🌝

[@neophyte_tpk]

Fuckin love Toph dude holy shit Also Sup Twitch

[@BreakfastKids]

my man

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Hello chat!

[@SKITZ_MONEY]

ALGORITHM COMMENT

[@razztash9440]

i see lord i click

[@uiripriest298]

lord fan here

[@Mattinvent3]

Hello toph nice video

[@tzuted]

I un-subbed, so that I can resub, I'M PART OF THE MOVEMENT TOPH

[@pppls789]

banger video

[@Elayaass]

I was going to laugh at you for saying you were a rythm games player until I remembered I was actually pretty fucking good at DDR when I was a kid hahahahahaha somehow I completely erased that memory from my mind until now

[@ShiningSta18486]

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[@griffendesai2039]

Smell of the game you say…

[@sejdric]

Okay fine I subscribed to GG melee stop shaming me

[@djspencerduh]

Subscribe and notifications on! Great content!

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

Ultimate is an 8/10 game. Not bad. But melee is a 100/10 game.

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[@BL3446]

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Hi Twitch chat!!!

[@ethanlim1803]

Slick hair cut my guy

[@strangeshotgun]

Yo

[@TownesBuford]

Toph I think if you read the book "Talent is Overrated" you would think about game sense much differently.

[@graysclater7408]

hi twitch!!!! :)

[@alexdevlin5329]

Obligatory comment for the algorithm

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I don't like ultimate at all

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