The Best Goalie to NEVER Play in the NHL - The Story of Vladislav Tretiak

[@pvfmemes]

People don’t understand how impressive a 3.00 GAA during that time was

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

Tretiak created a stance/styel called:"THE CRAB" it is Illustrated in his goaltending book I have from 1984. No one has used since.

[@TheDuckseason]

VLADISLAV TRETIAK trained Eddie Belfour for years and years....That is why Eddie Changed his # to 20.

[@Autobotmatt428]

Don't forget Dominik Hasek

[@angelo66bc]

Dec. 31, 1975 game between the Habs and Red Army: 38-13 the shots on goal in favor of the Montreal Canadiens (a team that would go on to win the next 4 consecutive Stanley Cups). But a 3-3 tie due to the great play of Tretiak. The Montreal fans giving a Soviet goaltender a standing ovation after the game is one of those rare, transcendental moments in the world of sports.

[@HFSswfl]

When I was playing high level goal in my teens many years ago, training from Tretiak’s book brought my play level higher than it ever was!

[@bradleyupdyke9492]

one of my favorite hockey players... he didn't get to make it to the NHL but he coached and made some of today's best goalies by giving them his knowledge...

[@davisvaldovskis2717]

if you score on tretiak, keep the puck, cuz it doesnt happen often.

[@tendymusic9095]

I’ve been a goalie my entire life and I think that tretiak was by far the best goalie to ever live and the reason the goalies don’t use his style is that tretiak was the only one who could do it

[@kyledorsty906]

Quick is about as close to tretiak as could be done

[@kyledorsty906]

Quick is about as close to tretiak as could be done

[@saadahmad9736]

Dude your videos are so interesting, honestly. Lots of people tackle certain recent hockey videos but I love how you dive deep into hockey history that I very much did not know, like I did not know who Vladislav Tretiak was until now. I'm such a proud father.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Lol thx Luc, it means allot. Glad ya learned something.

[@dannykrier]

I'll admit I'm not a big hockey fan but your videos are very good. The editing is on point and you have the perfect explaining.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks bro, means allot.

[@Swoop187OG187]

I'm a Hawks fan, and Tretiak not only coached Belfour but he coached Hasek too.. And it was funny because the Hawks wanted to sign Tretiak in 1990 to play, so had that happened the Hawks would have had Hasek, Belfour and Tretiak - arguably the 3 best goalies of all time - and without question 3 of the top 10 ATG's...

[@WarioSaysSo]

Vladislav Tretiak of the Sovietunion is undisputed THE greatest goalkeeper of all times on international ice = the greates goalie that never played in NHL! # Drafted 138th overall, 1983 by the Montreal Canadiens. # 16 years of professional hockey in Sovietunion all with the CSKA Moscow. # 3x Olympic gold medalist + 1 Olympic silver medal. # 10x IIHF World Championship gold medals + 2 silver medals + 1 bronze medal. # 1 Canada Cup Championship gold medal + 1 bronze medal. # 3x IIHF World Championhip Best Goaltender Award; 1974, 1979, 1983 # 3x IIHF World Championship Media All-Star Selection; 1975, 1979, 1983 # 117 International Championship games played, # 13x Soviet Hockey Championships League titles (CSKA Moscow) # 5x League MVP. # 13x First All-Star Selection in the Soviet League - consecutively from 1971 till 1984. # 482 League games played. # First player born and trained outside North America to be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame. # Numerous Soviet & Russia civil honor achivements; including the prestigues Order of Lenin and Order of Honour etc.

[@petervanlafluer3402]

Good Video I only know about Tretiak cause I saw the miracle movie which is a pretty good hockey movie

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Yeah man I own it on DVD its a great film. Hopefully ya leaned somethin man.

[@seasonstudios]

Tretiak was a renaissance man by emulating the great Canadian goalies of the 50's and 60's with his stand up style coupled with his ability to switch to a butterfly style at a moment's notice. He took the very best of the Canadian styles and honed them into a style of his own. He was very analytical and scientific (if you will) about the job of stopping the puck. He once said that a goalie's job is to stop every shot. He's probably rarely going to do that but it still remains his job. That is a pretty good goalie philosophy. If a shot gets by you, you should briefly think about why it happened and what you should do or could do the next time around. But like most goalies he has had his share of terrible nights between the posts and that is something a lot of us would never have the chance to see at the time. Phil Esposito rolls his eyes and laughs when people say how good he was. Phil thinks he's one of the worst goalies he ever faced. Was that comment tongue in cheek? Espo maintains it wasn't. I think he was a pretty darned good goalie along side Dzurilla the Czech goalie of the 76 Canada Cup. Sure the game has changed a lot and you don't see many real stand up goalies anymore. Today's NHL goals seem to be scored high while the goalies are down on their knees.

[@September2004]

Tretiak was offered a contract with the Canadiens in February 1984 which was also the month that Tretiak retired. If he did go to the Canadiens, would Roy still be a franchise player with the Canadiens? Discuss.

[@markhirstwood4190]

Tretiak and Bill Ranford are my two favourite goalies.

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

"THE CRAB" and the only goalie to ever his the Tretiak tecnhique in the NHL was his student MARTIN BRODEUR. Also Tretiak's GAA in the 72 Summit and 70's were not bad.goaltending was MUCH different in the 70's. Also like Grant Fuhr he mae the KEY saves at the right time.

[@raymonwhite3340]

I was thinking to myself that Brodeur played a variant of Tretiak's style when the video said nobody uses it. Tretiak had an impressive international career, and it would have been interesting to see him play. I often wonder if the "Miracle on Ice" would have come to fruition if the Soviet coach had not pulled Tretiak so early. Great video!

[@trisgilmour]

I think if he came over he would have carried a team to multiple cups

[@Bk6346]

Before the 1972 Summit Series the NHL sent 2 scouts from the Maple Leafs to scouts the Soviet hockey players. They said Tretiak was no good.

[@j.peters1222]

Oh and I got a great topic for a future video you might be interested in. You could do a story on what happened to Terry Sawchuk. He was such a transcendent talent. He died at age 40 and the circumstances surrounding his premature death are not often discussed especially on KZbin.

[@thomasdufresne2936]

Cool vid, one corrections though. Philly were already known as the broad street bullys in the early 70's prior to their game with the red army. They were also back to back stanley cup champions heading into that game, winning the cup in 74 and 75.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Yeah man, and what a bunch they were too... Shultz and Clarke were dominate and brutal. They were a lovable bunch imo. I love the Broad Street Bullies.

[@markgreene6349]

The Flyers killed them.. no team ever embarrassed the Soviets like the Flyers

[@quigsplays5914]

Damn imagine Roy and tretiak on the canadiens

[@boneail94]

I always enjoy your vids dude

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks man, means allot

[@robertpucci9585]

Tretiak IS how goaltending should be played, it is that simple 🙂

[@stevenloeffler1266]

Great video! You should do a video on thr punch up at piestany

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Ill look into it man. Thx for watching.

[@zac1002]

very informative video! thank you

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks man! Glad ya enjoyed. Its awesome being able to teach people new things and learning a bit myself while making these vids.

[@hickettsisepic989]

I think it would be nice to see a redraft of 2016

[@aubsta1]

He was great!

[@mooch514]

tretiak was good. But remember one thing. People forget to mention this. And give tretiak more credit than deserved in my opinion...tretiak only played international games/ tournaments...he had weeks months and sometimes a year to analyze,prepare and train for those games....if tretiak was in the nhl with a hectic schedule, travelling, injuries and fatigue...plus players getting to know his "weak spot" do you think tretiak would of been the goalie we all praise nearly 50 years now? Nope.

[@lukebruce5234]

Only international tournaments? He played in the Soviet league as well. His schedule wasn't any shorter than the schedule of NHLers.

[@mooch514]

@@lukebruce5234 not in the nhl...he is often compared to nhl goalies. Tretiak never played in the nhl...fact. we will never know what really would happen. Fact

[@1bert719]

Detractors like to point out his poor end to the summit series, but neither Dryden or Esposito was much better overall. It often sounds like sour grapes by the Canadians who just totally underestimated the Soviets and were not fit for the series. Still a wonderful display of hockey by 2 passionate teams. Tretiak was the real deal though, Montreal certainly rated him, and they don't often pick duds.

[@patch8376]

'74 was against weaker WHA, not NHL (and WHA circa '74 was weaker than WHA circa '78-79). Still significant though.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Ahh interesting, didnt find that!!

[@TriceMendoza]

1 goalie of all time is .... Dominick Hasek. Who ever seen him play u would say thank god for Replay. Because most saves he made live weren't hardly seen, until that replay showed you how this man robbed you by his big blocker while his back turned away from u lol

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Hasek was super fun to watch!! He’s my GOAT

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

Vladislav Tretiak DOMINATED the Philadelphia Flyers with his CCCP comrades January 1983 when they went into the Spectrum and they DESTROYED Pelle Lindbergh. In fact the Soviet National team made a habit of DESTROYING Pelle Lindbergh be it the Olympics, World Champiosnhips and NHL. In 1984 Team Sweden refused to play their best goalie, that being Lindbergh, in 1984. Slava's best back up on the National team was Vladimir Myshkin.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

DAMN. Most ppl tend to forget this haha. Thx for watching! Hope ya enjoyed!!

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

I have 13 of his jerseys, every book written about him or by him and over 75 games of him on DVD, I never will forget my second fave goalie of all time. Thank you sir..@@idontgivetkachuk

[@idontgivetkachuk]

@@ms.felonystrutter2472 np man! Very cool!! Hope ya enjoyed.

[@ferencmarko5878]

TRETIAK✌ ICON

[@thebestofhockey8684]

I made a vide and you were in it but I knew for some reason you wouldn't watch it or else you would have said something

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Sorry but ya dont always gotta comment to say ya watched something. Its like sometimes ya force me to comment.....

[@thebestofhockey8684]

no what I did was I shouted you out and told my subscribers to subscribe to you

[@grantferrigan3837]

Greatest ever.

[@j.peters1222]

I've been saying this for years. If Tretiak had played professionally in the NHL, we would be talking about the best goalie of all time. It's a shame that world politics at the time prevented that from becoming a reality. Fun fact: Vladislav Tretiak and Valeri Kharlamov are the only two players inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame that never played in the NHL.

[@XapnoMapkc]

Based on what? His results against NHL players were already so-so. Why on earth would we expect different results if he played a full NHL schedule?

[@jackodum783]

get a new mic my man sounds like youre recording on a potato! love the vid man very unique content

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks man, aint got much money as of now, but will work on it. Audio does sound soft and been tryna fix it for weeks lol. If ya have any recommendations let me know, it'd help allot. But thx for stopping by and appreciate the feedback

[@hickettsisepic989]

The greatest goalie of all time is Hicketts

[@rhettjames1386]

Love it

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thx man!

[@susanmotley8268]

Tretiak was born in 1952, not 1955.

[@pylonsports]

tuuka rask?

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Lol Rask played and is still playing. Definitely a top 10 goalie and is great for the Bs. Had a shot in 2013 but the Hawks pulled off a miracle. Rask is great and imo him and the Bs have 2-3 more years to have another run.

[@dannykrier]

Pylon why do I always see you? Lol

[@pylonsports]

@@dannykrier cause i like idontgive's vids

[@idontgivetkachuk]

❤

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

MARTIN BRODEUR AND VLADISLAV TRETIEK. Denis, Marty's Dad, told him got get out of the butterfly school (Allaire) and visit Tretiak. Marty became a teacher there he loved Tretiak so much. Tretiak the best Euro goalie ever (I do not want to hear Hsek, hsi glove hand SUCKED and Marty the best ever all aroud. Surprise? I think now.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Interesting! I didnt know that abour Marty... The fact he learned from Tretiak makes his dominance seem even more obvious. Thanks for sharing!! Interesting story!!

[@blackiestallion6109]

Hasek=best ever. Brodeur=overrated. Tretiak= very overrated.

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

@@blackiestallion6109 AND YOU VER VERY CLUELESS...HASEK = TERRIBLE GLOVE, COULD NOT PLAY THE PUCK, ROY PUT HIMSELF OVER TEAM CANDA 1998, DID THEY EVEN MeDAL? RoY'S lAST GAME? ROY HORRIBLE PLAYING THE PUCK MARTY PLAYED WITH THE SMALLED PADS N THE LEAGUE AND CHANGED THE GAME...NEXT

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

@@blackiestallion6109 Yeah, that is why your beloved HABS could not beat Marty or you ae a jealous NYR fan...Marty and Tretiak changed the game. Marty smallest pads in the league, Roy could not beat the overrated flyers with his two sizes too large jersey

[@blackiestallion6109]

@@ms.felonystrutter2472 I'm clueless?!? Lol. Hasek won 2 Hart Trophies, 6 Vezina Trophies, and did almost all of this after he turned 30. He didn't even start in the NHL until he was 28. Brodeur had Hall Of Fame defensemen playing in front of him (Stevens, Niedermayer), and rarely had to make a second save. In Buffalo, Hasek had "the great" Alexei Zhitnik and Jason Woolley. You are right about one thing, in 1998 Canada lost in the bronze medal game; their goaltender that game was Martin Brodeur.

[@ozpan5540]

in europe we knew about the russian and tretjak and the beautiful style the russian showed off but we were shocked when they met north american teams and how the tactics were to hit and hurt your ooponent and intimidate the other team . it was obvious that north american teams didnt have the poise and style or endurance to play real hockey and of course with lack of discipline and with thugs like esposito and others they indimidted and injured the oposition and thats how they won still today the nhl is based on dump and run and fihgs . of course this brings money in but to call this beautiful is ridiculous . anyway for us that grew up with the game we sa the best hockey

[@Axel-fd2ui]

Do you believe in miracles?

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Yes!!! One of the greatest if not THE greatest sport moment in American history

[@mpm1958]

Vladislav Tretiak was a star against amateurs, but had mixed results against NHL players. 1972 made Tretiak a name? The best goalies come up big in the biggest games, and Tretiak could not come up with one big performance in the last three games in Russia. His name should never be uttered when discussing the greatest goaltenders of all time.

[@saadahmad9736]

FIRST

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thx Father

[@konstantinkazakov2066]

clowns))