Great to see GT becoming relevant again. In the late 80s, early 90s, GT was the mountain bike to have... well, them and Klein. GT was my very first MTB and someday I will own another one.
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
If only that gravel bike would look as good as the GT MTBs of back them. That gravel thing looks like a classic GT on acid.
@riderrunco23 күн бұрын
Gt grades been one of the best gravel bikes since it first came out
@andrewblakesley420224 күн бұрын
I tried gravel and then ended up with a hardtail and the excellent Surly Corner Bar and gravel tyres from Planet X. So much cheaper, durable and more versatile on the trails I ride.
@tomas740324 күн бұрын
I have been ridding and buying bikes for 20 years (some of them top end bikers) and I will never understand how a bike with no suspension and just one derauler can cost more than 1.500 - 2.000€ 🤷🏻♂️
@chrissinclair608624 күн бұрын
I’ve gave up riding on road in the UK as the amount of abuse etc thrown my way, is just not worth it. Looked for a reasonable carbon gravel bike (again) and they are all rip offs for cheap frames and parts. Ended up with a Mondraker EMTB at a fraction of the price and tons of fun. Yes heavy, but that’s why the motor is there.
@cjohnson383624 күн бұрын
Most of the bikes you've ridden over those 20 years weren't made out of the same stuff that wraps the wings of an F16
@Paulklampeeps24 күн бұрын
Yeah idk why a gravel bike is typically more expensive than a hardtail
@twowheelsintokyo703923 күн бұрын
I’ve been eating food for more than 50 years, and can’t understand why a Big Mac value meal costs more than $10.
@enensis23 күн бұрын
I agree. For the money just go a good xc bike with 80-100mm suspension. Gravel bikes are just a fad in my opinion a step back in time. Yeh it's carbon who cares buy a carbon xc bike. And to be fair most gravel racers now are riding drop bar xc bikes in competition so if you really want to be like the pros get a xc bike 😅
@BoxCarBoy1224 күн бұрын
Wake me up when we can get 2x drivetrains on gravel bikes again. I like a huge gear range so unless it has a 10-50t cassette, 1x is worthless to me on any drop bar bike
@lieblingsleguan159124 күн бұрын
You can pair etap doubletaps with an eagle RD. I have Rival etap 1x12 with a 10-52 cassette on my gravel bike. The cassette is basically a 10-42 11spd cassette with the addition of the 52t bailout ring
@BoxCarBoy1224 күн бұрын
@@lieblingsleguan1591 even with a 10-52, range only merely becomes acceptable if I had no other choice of a drivetrain. I prefer even more range, where I live I make use of every single gear in my 2x setup with a 46-30 crankset and 11-42t cassette
@scottwatson784424 күн бұрын
The whole 1x is so being pushed by the industry and influencers. Really don’t see why anyone would want to limit themselves just because it looks better.
@krismine9923 күн бұрын
@@BoxCarBoy12 The GT Grade Carbon Elite runs a 2x10 and has a carbon fiber frame for $1875. Just look at their website.
@yukiko_505123 күн бұрын
Apparently most gravel cyclist are clueless. There's one guy saying he want to go on adventure carrying 20 kg, yet he chooses 1x with 40t rather than triples 😂
@twowheelsintokyo703923 күн бұрын
I bought the GT, and love it. The street price is lower than the MSRP, and you can get the Elite for around $2k.
@krismine9923 күн бұрын
@@twowheelsintokyo7039 exactly, nobody bothered to check the website
@cup_and_cone23 күн бұрын
IMO, any new gravel frame that does not support 50c tires should be an automatic deal breaker in 2024.
@frienduro2420 күн бұрын
The 50 frames can’t fit road bike group sets, large chain rings and are always heavier
@cup_and_cone20 күн бұрын
@@frienduro24 It's almost like they make gravel specific groupsets for a reason...
@frienduro2420 күн бұрын
@@cup_and_cone pros want the big group sets and chain rings
@DK-yr8id24 күн бұрын
All over $4k…I’ll just have to keep being slow 😂
@krismine9923 күн бұрын
@@DK-yr8id the Carbon Fiber GT Grade is on sale for $1875 on their website. They have higher end ones, but it looks like a steal for that frame. The GT Grade Comp is $1200 and the Grade Sport is $840, they're aluminum but so are most entry level bikes
@531c23 күн бұрын
Wont make an iota of difference £2K bike or £7K. This is all bollocks
@scottcummings638524 күн бұрын
Funny thing is that the GT Grade LE isn’t available anymore. They sold me one of the last ones but couldn’t deliver so they gave me the next model down for free. Took that money and bought new wheels ect. Great frame though… just rode it on gravel today.
@cup_and_cone22 күн бұрын
This is going to be the new norm. After the pandemic bubble burst, brands were left with huge inventory surplus and it scared all the brands to the point they are only ordering small quantities of new bikes because they don't want a repeat. This is exactly why so many new model year bikes are out of stock and you cannot backorder them. It will be like this for the foreseeable future. If you want a new bike, buy it when it releases and don't wait.
@Thomas-fy9yc23 күн бұрын
Easy, ridden lots of bikes..my choice is the Cannondale Supersix SE frame set built up with Force 2x AXS, some good wide carbon gravel wheels and wide tubeless tires around 42-45mm. If you like 1x the slap on the Eagle 12spd rear with a force 1x in front. Fast, responsive, stable on downhills, big tire clearance, good frame warranty, and 2x compatibility without losing tire clearance is easy choice. New model around the corner upgrades if you want to a delta steering tube for integrated cockpit cables. Bike continues to do well including winning Unbound 200 Gravel this year and for some reason is ignored by the press.
@TheSeig9 күн бұрын
I’m throwing the Lauf Seigla in with these. Can’t beat the value and quality period.
@inferno400124 күн бұрын
This is awesome! My first gravel bike was the first GT grade I bought in 2015. Still rides amazing! I'll definitely gonna check if the newer version is even better!! I can already guess the answer!
@markwalker914724 күн бұрын
Always enjoy Warren’s review……all great bike. But how can the solid gold one be the cheapest?
@klaymoon117 күн бұрын
I would definitely buy a GT bike if they offered 45-50mm tire as a stock option. They look good but I don't want to change the tire myself.
@riderrunco23 күн бұрын
Gt grades got Tapered head tube Suspension corrected geo Slacker head angle Lower bb Steeper seat tube Shorter chainstays More tyre clearance ( run 2.0 on mine) More compliance. Gen3 gt grades a all new beast
@carltonholmes806110 күн бұрын
Thinking of a gravel bike to supplement my winter riding and possibly do some gravel races here in the UK now. I already have an Epic 8 MTB and Roubaix, However I notice that most of the gravel bikes don’t even have mudguard mounting except the Diverge and Revolt and i am fed up with crappy strap on mudguards which i have had plenty of on my Roubaix(Not SL8)
@moritz379922 күн бұрын
Maybe I am biased as I own a Terra, but the only reason I would not buy a GT is that the design does not suit my eye. Totally understand and respect the bold and effective design choice.
@drTeddyJo23 күн бұрын
Honestly have tried out several gravel bikes and can't beat the giant revolt advanced for their compliance and price..
@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well23 күн бұрын
No merida silex, no trek checkmate or checkpoint, no canyon grail, no wilier adlar 😂😂😂😂
@alanburns288216 күн бұрын
hi i went and ordered a set off tyres for my hope tech 35w rims but think i mite off ordered the wrong size the tyres i have ordered are Schwalbe G-One Allround Evo 27.5 x 2.25 anyone know if these will fit on a tubeless set up thanks
@stephenwright398123 күн бұрын
I’m waiting for the new Cervelo aspero Rival to become available. Be good to know how that bike compares to these 3???
@scottwatson784424 күн бұрын
So many good gravel bikes absent from this list. Which begs the question as to which bikes did you actually test ?
@saddleweary277724 күн бұрын
I'm glad I bought early, $800 for a Revolt and $2700 for a Terra.
@drill_fiend109724 күн бұрын
Yet no mention of Lauf or Ibis. 😓
@zuzanaz.297524 күн бұрын
Why are always on those "best" list only expensive bikes by big brands which can afford paid promotion😢.
@MrOryly24 күн бұрын
Why did you choose only those three bikes? Why not add others to the list? TBH I'd much rather go for a Revolt over those.
@monstermini22522 күн бұрын
No specialized Diverge? The alloy is affordable And great and the higher carbon models a badd ass
@pauloc898824 күн бұрын
Your all off your head if you buy any of these bike stupid money
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
You're* all off ... But right, the prices are simply insane.
@xaviermorel495624 күн бұрын
And Giant, Spacialized?
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
Giant's and Specialized's* cheques arrived too late, that's why😉.
@xaviermorel495623 күн бұрын
@@einundsiebenziger5488 Funny you!!!!
@cwitt48324 күн бұрын
I almost bought a SC Stigmata. Love the look and color but couldn't justify almost $8000
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
For 8 K $/€/£ it should at least have a cool name. "Stigmata" is downright stupid.
@cwitt48324 күн бұрын
@@einundsiebenziger5488 I ended up buying a Trek Checkpoint SL7 for $5000 and love it!
@cwitt48323 күн бұрын
@@einundsiebenziger5488 I ended up buying a trek checkpoint SL7 instead for $5000 and really like it a lot
@DesmoDreams23 күн бұрын
£7000! What kind of a fool is going to pay that? I can't take you guys seriously. Do you really believe ordinary people can afford to spend that kind of cash on a gravel bike? You could buy a trick, full susser E MTB for the price of that Santa Cruz. Hell, I could literally buy 2 brand new Royal Enfield motorcycles for the same money!
@jaskopdx634224 күн бұрын
What do these $5000 or pound bikes do that the $500 can't ? I just don't understand what makes these bikes as expensive as an used car. You can buy a sport bike 1000cc or dirt bike. What does this bicycle do that the normal bicycles can't ?
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
They can certainly do much more than a 500 bucks bike, but nothing really better than a 1500 bucks bike. You buy these for the bling, not the performance.
@chriswitek94553 күн бұрын
and yet the gt remains the ugliest bike out there! no diverge? grizl? checkpoint? lot of bikes missing that i think would be good contendors
@aminostruth349423 күн бұрын
GT dropped the ball with the aesthetics imo. The livery looks very uninspired.
@riderrunco23 күн бұрын
It's got better graphics in production.
@nikolaizetrov61723 күн бұрын
GT Revival!
@pauloc898824 күн бұрын
All are calm in there handling.....what does this mean ....b.s.
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
... in their* handling.
@ZenEndurance23 күн бұрын
Go GT! Mach1 from bmx days was a god level bike.
@palpatine197524 күн бұрын
Gt continue to make hi - end gravel bikes, road bikes but no hi-end xc bikes.
@krismine9924 күн бұрын
They don't even make road bikes
@cup_and_cone23 күн бұрын
Blame their parent company. Once GT went bankrupt and were bought out, the MTB community (the one that supported them as their cash cow) disowned them and didn't want anything to do with them.
@palpatine197523 күн бұрын
@@cup_and_cone if that is the case, I'm sure the company now has the capability and the resources to start a dedicated xc line. And even road, taking cues from their successful gravel offerings.. Its all coming down to they choose to or not.
@cup_and_cone23 күн бұрын
@@palpatine1975 GT still had a high-end MTB line up to about a decade ago...but they also had budget bikes in big box stores at the same time, which diluted the brand. I believe Dorel tried to [poorly] copy for their GT brand what Brunswick did with its Mongoose brand in the late 90's, by having "Mongoose" in big box stores and then "Mongoose Pro" in bike shops. Of course it did not work out. The reality is Dorel had, and now PON has, too many brands competing against each other...they are like General Motors in the 2000's, having to kill off Oldsmobile and Saturn to survive. I mean whatever happened to Iron Horse after the takeover? I saw some Iron Horse branded accessories in Walmarts for a brief period, but the brand basically evaporated.
@gungfuriceboy24 күн бұрын
All WAY Out of My Price Range!!😒
@einundsiebenziger548824 күн бұрын
Orbea all the way. Why? It's the best-looking (and be even better in 2x). The GT is ugly and I wonder what's more silly about the Santa Cruz: the suspension fork or the extremely stupid name. "Stigmata" is the plural of "stigma" which roughly translates to "sign of shame". The only thing I can think of what this has to do with this bike is the price tag.
@festerofest437422 күн бұрын
Love the Orbea. I'm in the US and have read of wide-ranging complaints about support here however.... enough that it keeps me considering Orbea as of the way things are today. Seems that the dealers struggle with mrf support for their customers when issues arise.
@emyrdavies529524 күн бұрын
What a hideous looking bike for a winner
@stevekelly654424 күн бұрын
The GT may be a good bike, but that frame is just hideous looking to me….
@krismine9924 күн бұрын
Maybe because I am more used to mountain bikes I see it differently, because that is a cool look imo
@cup_and_cone23 күн бұрын
It's the seat tube/top tube junction going back up. Every frame looks two sizes too big. If they kept it looking like a classic GT with continuously sloping top tube, it would have looked way better.