i stupidly left out energy SMGs in the middle, so here's a text breakdown for PvE: arc smg was split between ikelos (season of the seraph) and subjunctive (season of the wish) basically dead even, with noxious vetiver coming in 3rd (from episode 2). solar SMG is still dominated by calus mini-tool, but we haven't had a ton of development there, so that makes sense. parabellum (world drop) came in 2nd. void SMG went to the recluse (into the light) because it's really all we've gotten that's been a contender since funnelweb, which is still considered the 2nd best anyway because of subsistence/frenzy, which recluse can also get, but with other stuff available too.
@jamer2510 күн бұрын
Disagree with the arc smg list. Noxious Vetiver just feels so much better than Ikelos and Subjunctive with jolting feedback. Plus the origin trait gives you free ammo and does aoe which is in essence a third whole perk at that point.
@Triliflops10 күн бұрын
For the love of god, I’ve been saying this for years at this point. There is no “the” in “Season of Plunder.” It has never been “Season of the Plunder,” but you and Byf, the Destiny guys, KEEP saying it wrong. Sorry. That is all. Keep up the good work. Love your shit.
@MrWrighthw10 күн бұрын
@@jamer25 I hate to say it, but I agree. I never thought anything would pull Ikelos from my cold live digital fingers, but here we are. The origin trait gives it the edge. Just don't miss that ether bubble. Otherwise, Ikelos still feels better to use.
@McNuggetsOrElse10 күн бұрын
@@MrWrighthw I just can't with the slower fire rate :/
@Deargodheisinthewallhelp10 күн бұрын
I forgor the name, but the Season of the deep dungeon solar smg is debatably better
@benacales40910 күн бұрын
I have not played since act 2 of episode 1, but something about Datto just spouting off perk roles is relaxing. Probably a trained response I have built up over the past 10 years.
@byrongrimsley50010 күн бұрын
Why are you even here? It doesn't make sense.
@shadcy10 күн бұрын
@@byrongrimsley500 ig they wanna watch a youtuber they developed a “trained response” to ?
@EnvisionedBlindness9 күн бұрын
@byrongrimsley500 I haven't truly played the game outside of casual grinding since lightfall and I still keep up with the community. It's weird but it is relaxing. Gives me nostalgia for the better days we've had as a community
@EnvisionedBlindness9 күн бұрын
@@shadcyif you don't understand Pavlovian association, you don't have any business contributing to that aspect of the conversation; But by all means, make uneducated statements that you'll receive a lot of positive reinforcement for, in the form of likes, from others on your same level of psychological understanding
@-Alpeter6 күн бұрын
@@shadcy still doesn't make sense. If you hate something why watch someone who doesn't share the same opinion.
@VoidUnderTheSun10 күн бұрын
20:15 "If you're lucky enough to see a Heliocentric with Heal Clip and Incandescent, it's an amazing roll, one which I relied upon HEAVILY for my Vesper's solo flawless run" Cut to that clip of Datto slamming Heal Clip like "Oh, I need a heal. Catch me fricken RELOADING"
@gay4femboys10 күн бұрын
Wasn't that before it got buffed from Cure x1 to x2? I loved heal clip when it came out. Since the reload time on heliocentric is quite fast. It got like 5x the love after it's buff to cure x2
@hades963510 күн бұрын
Man This datto guy just keeps doing destiny
@Boingo44510 күн бұрын
Say that again...
@Drynskar10 күн бұрын
so you're saying...Datto Does Destiny?
@eranronen57310 күн бұрын
@Boingo445 if disney made a datto origin story, hmm, i like that
@SpurnOfHumanity10 күн бұрын
Destiny the streamer?
@Viflo10 күн бұрын
He's financially reliant on new content in the game, however "bad" it is
@cedricvr10 күн бұрын
Perfect timing, Datto, just got back into destiny 2 after a year or so and was having difficulty figuring out what the current PvE meta was Big thanks
@VCXZ88310 күн бұрын
If you're into crafting, definitely try to get the pattern for Aberrant Action. It's an absolutely fantastic weapon and you can still get it right now from Episode 1 (Echoes) activities as well as focusing with Failsafe from the HELM. And those options should be available until the next major expansion drops later this year.
@EataBrickk10 күн бұрын
@@VCXZ883that’s if you actually own the episode, or the annual pass, otherwise I think it’s random from onslaught right? I know I have to get the annual pass to get access to the last episode from what I remember, which is unfortunate cause, ain’t dropping another 40 bucks on this game 😂
@tayk478410 күн бұрын
@@EataBrickk that's true honestly the volshot indebted kindess they give you a banshee after one clear of warlords ruin isn't bad either just gotta have the duengon key basically
@cedricvr10 күн бұрын
@@VCXZ883Thanks, will do, I logged on and i still had quicksilver storm, veretis brow strand build equipped. Realized they nerfed quicksilver storm :( so started playing the final shape story with sunbracers build with sunshot/red death and figured out on my own how powerfull missile sidearms are, was suprised, so will try to build the Aberrant action, thanks for the tip!
@lolosh9910 күн бұрын
Ah yes my favorite type of content. Datto speaking continuously for 30 mins+
@KHĀN321-c4u10 күн бұрын
Fr tho
@petervalvo118610 күн бұрын
Datto, you forgot to add in the "energy slot SMG" section to the video lol
@sebastiangutierrez35799 күн бұрын
such a shame. that was the one i was looking forward to the most
@goodvibesrav10 күн бұрын
datto when is the team scorched weapon tierlist dropping
@Ahnock10 күн бұрын
S - scorch cannon A - B - C - D - F -
@dredgenbean629910 күн бұрын
12:59 “One small step from THE MOON.”
@erandielu4 күн бұрын
"THE MOON HAUNTS YOU"
@neojb198910 күн бұрын
I'll shout it every chance I get, but TImeworn Wayfarer is one of my all time favourite weapons. Shoot To Loot can trigger from an ignite or the intrinsic radiolaria pool it drops, and then incandescent for a little add cleary goodness. Gotta crank reload speed because it's abyssmal, but it's saved by the fact that it naturally reloads two shots per reload (4 if you choose the double reload thing). Just a fun ass little yeehaw future cowboy gun.
@giovannirossi79110 күн бұрын
Oh nice i didnt know from ignitions too
@edgecalibur7779 күн бұрын
even crazy is that it reloads 6 if you enhance double reload perk
@chocolate484710 күн бұрын
didnt he forget to talk about energy smgs?
@pointnexus455910 күн бұрын
Yeah I can’t find them 😢
@GAMEFACE18310 күн бұрын
@@pointnexus4559 easy, Ikelos, Calus, Recluse/Funnelweb. They're still dog water compared to the rest of the sandbox tho
@MrNuclearz10 күн бұрын
I remember when calus mini tool was the meta. Good times
@pointnexus455910 күн бұрын
@ I want to know what the community vote says, these are the top energy slot SMGs I use but I want to see if any other SMGs made it up there like this past seasonal arc SMG with jolting feedback.
@PastorJummp10 күн бұрын
But did he mention energy swords 🗡 🫠
@JeffKryger8 күн бұрын
Thanks so much to you and your community for putting this list together! 1. It validated that the weapons I already was using (and their rolls) are best in slot and 2. It helped me clear out my vault of weapons that I realistically was never going to use. Very much appreciated!
@Just_be_yourself1093 күн бұрын
Datto doesn't know you, you're typed this out like he's gonna read your shitty comment. sweetheart you're just a number he doesn't know you or that you even exist nor does he care. Ditch the Parasocial relationship. 🐑🤡
@OptimusBean10 күн бұрын
Surprised Chattering Bone didn't get a shout out for Kill Clip snd Kinetic Tremors, it's a regular in my GM loadouts
@TheBatsquid10 күн бұрын
I think even then, blast furnace having KT and frenzy out performs it due to furnace not needing a kill to proc it and its origin trait allowing for either grenade or melee energy
@makingacomment10 күн бұрын
@@TheBatsquidI’ll raise you that Kinetic Temors and Frenzy roll for Kinetic Tremors and One For All.
@bbjynx103610 күн бұрын
I don’t play destiny but I must watch for the algorithm and to help my boy Datto.
@Just_be_yourself1093 күн бұрын
🐑🐑
@repthe21st6610 күн бұрын
I got up off my bed at 4am and fired my pc and destiny to visit the Gunsmith because of Datto
@Ahnock10 күн бұрын
shoulda just gotten some shuteye and picked it up in the morning smh. sleeps important
@TonyScimeca10 күн бұрын
Sojourner’s Tale is a solar pinpoint slug Shotgun that can also roll with discord and harmony. It absolutely slaps. If you haven’t tried this roll out it’s very easy to craft the tonics and farm for it, I highly recommend.
@dvdossbsvskfbdvav9 күн бұрын
18:10 Manannan sr4 gang I see you, glad to see my year 1 goat still getting some love
@Parallelocam5 күн бұрын
This is the kind of content i want personally. Easy free video every season My only suggestion is break them up by slot into 3 separate videos, would prob be better for monetization
@billdeppen21328 күн бұрын
Glacioclasm isn’t in the kinetic slot 10:36
@ethanchirdon937510 күн бұрын
A Datto video? 11 seconds after posting? What a pleasant surprise. Really good and fair list though.
@Mulgz9 күн бұрын
You meantioned Lingering Dread at 11:10 with disorienting grenades and chill clip (which I've been trying to obtain for a long time) Well i just noticed in the season pass at rank 131, you can get Liturgy with disorienting/slideways/chill clip... Cheering!
@JcalGG7 күн бұрын
Good vid! My only feedback is that I’d personally look at primary and special sidearms in separate categories despite the current lack of special sidearms. I also think a video with only your opinion accounting for builds (like lucky pants) is worth making! This video broadly covered everything great, but a more specific video would be welcomed by many as well!
@Just_be_yourself1093 күн бұрын
Datto doesn't know you, you're typed this out like he's gonna read your shitty comment. sweetheart you're just a number he doesn't know you or that you even exist nor does he care. Ditch the Parasocial relationship. 🐑🤡
@FluffyFoxGames9 күн бұрын
Love these kind of videos! I hope your planning on doing this with exotic weapons! Would love to see it.
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
22:23 Undercurrent with voltshot should have been there. With chain reactions nerf, it's now actually worth using, though requiring a kill first to proc kinda hurts it compared to chain reaction. But once it gets going, it's, imo, better at clearing ads than Forebarence, and MUCH better at damaging yellow bars. So while I'd still put Forebarence at the top, Undercurrent deserves a shout-out as well here. Oh, and Undercurrent with Voltshot can deal with Overloads, so there's that as well.
@JenkemEnthusiast7 күн бұрын
Love my adept undercurrent, don't use it as much as I'd like. Was having a lot of fun with Prodigal Return earlier this season. I have mine crafted with Lead from Gold & Voltshot. Super slept on
@apg19609 күн бұрын
Wow great edit love all the graphs and perks pop outs
@Just_be_yourself1093 күн бұрын
Datto doesn't know you, you're typed this out like he's gonna read your shitty comment. sweetheart you're just a number he doesn't know you or that you even exist nor does he care. Ditch the Parasocial relationship. 🐑🤡
@joselazo684010 күн бұрын
Finally, I’ve just been using abilities waiting for this video to come out. Now I can use my favorite weapons.
@Eric-xv5eb9 күн бұрын
People that use hand cannons in PvE and aren’t using the two-burst hand cannons are sleeping at the wheel. They’re beast!
@iceddiamondsyt10 күн бұрын
Hey datto. Thanks for making this. I know destiny 2 content has been a bit low recently, and I along with a few others have not logged on in a bit, but thank you for making thos. Its nice to have a one-stop-shop video for weapons to use. This video feels like a friend just talking to a old ally as they come back, and its great. Keep up the good work, and i hope you well with any adventures you go on, be it video creation or other hobbies
@Just_be_yourself1093 күн бұрын
Datto doesn't know you, you're typed this out like he's gonna read your shitty comment. sweetheart you're just a number he doesn't know you or that you even exist nor does he care. Ditch the Parasocial relationship. 🐑🤡
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
27:32 did everyone just forget about Fortunate Star from Solstice? It was a void bow with nearly every pve perk you could want, and even had the extremely rare kill clip on a bow. It also had destabilizing repulser as well.
@ahreuwu10 күн бұрын
that's a fake weapon, nobody has one. it's a hoax. wake up
@SavvyMon49 күн бұрын
Because RB-DR is terrible
@coa370410 күн бұрын
Liturgy from this season also gets chill clip desorienting with better/different column 3 perks than lingering dread And Heliocentric is at banshee focusing so everyone can get one now! Also just some sword tips because i love swords : in a fire team the wave frame swords are really bad because only one of the wave will register and a good ergo sum goes a long way!(it's basically a legendary it has rolls) (Also Glacioclasm is in the kinetic part but it's a void weapon)
@coa370410 күн бұрын
and so little votes for Arcane Embrace in the shotguns is because i assume not many people have tried it, it's really really good (and comboes well with this season's artifact)
@Issac1222productions10 күн бұрын
this video format is fun, sounds like a sports announcer sounding off that year's seasonal stats lmao
@rcditti10 күн бұрын
ok but the editing is popping off in this vid
@edward_the_bruce10 күн бұрын
I haven't touched D2 since last summer but I am a Glaive Stan, and will defend them, especially for end game. I cannot speak to the new Glaive but Nezerec's Whisper is the best and here is why I think it's the best glaive overall. This will be focusing on End Game PVE only. Pros and cons to glaives The shield is the pro and most important part of using a glaive. In normal content you can get away with stabbing away but in Grand Master Nightfalls or day one raids you use a glaive for it’s shield for survival. Speaking of shields, adaptive frame glaives get the most shield duration which is what bumps ALL adaptive (Nezerec’s whisper, enigma, etc) up a notch from aggressive and rapid frames. Another pro is mag size, Nezerec’s Whisper is the only adaptive that has 5 rounds while other adaptive have 4, and with backup mag you get 6 vs 5. Reloading is the con of glaives. Anything outside of getting max shield duration should be focusing on perks to help reloading. Demolitionist is one of our answers to this con. While an amazing perk for grenade energy, the main reason we want demo is to NOT reload the glaive. With enhanced demo you can get into a cycle where you don't ever have to reload. 5 kills essentially gets your grenade back so throw grenade for free reload and blast away weaker ads to get grenade back, and repeat that cycle. After Demo the next best perk we want is Frenzy. It is an S tier pick for a damage boost but again we want Frenzy mainly for the reload boost. In end game content you won’t always get the kills needed to fully replenish your grenade energy for that demo reload, and Frenzy is going to come in clutch. l will always use frenzy when you can on a glaive as it’s just a free boost to stats and damage, both are amazing in end game content. What do I craft? Auxiliary Reserves for +15 Shield Duration and -10 reload. (worth it for max shield duration, this is the most important stat) Light mag for Extra reload speed(to also help offset the -10 from Auxiliary reserves) and range, but swap mag and accurized have a place as well Enhanced Demo Enhanced Frenzy Masterwork: Shield Duration Mod: Backup Mag That is my useless book about glaives, enjoy lol Edit* typo
@fleefie9 күн бұрын
As a Shadebinder turret main, I use glaives because they're the best 20% demolitionist weapons. The shield is an after thought, they're just woke slugs for my use case. Huge fan of the raid glaive bc it has demo and volatile (volatile makes more sense when getting single kills rather than spamming a group but we're not ready for the volatile is actually a good perk discussion yet)
@edward_the_bruce9 күн бұрын
@fleefie that's a completely different use than me but I completely understand it. Shade binder is a lot of fun. Again I've been MIA for a few months but you can essentially skip needing demo on prismatic and also get stasis turrets all over the place. That being said demo never hurts and it's not coming off my glaive if I ever return. Strong work my dude
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
13:14 hey, it got a shout-out this year. I mentioned it in your last video saying it was an amazing option with auto or overflow and cascade for absolutely blowing your load into an elite or major you never mentioned it and tons of ppl agreed and liked or commented on my comment. Glad you at least mentioned it this year, though I'll say perfect paradox kinda took it's thunder along with other shotties getting cascade as well since then. Still a great unique weapon I'd suggest for certain things, especially if you don't wanna run 1 2 punch or trench and still want a shotty.
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
26:32 yes it has, lone wolf/closing time is MUCH better than snap/opening and the world drop Veleda-F has this and it feels absolutely amazing.
@fleefie9 күн бұрын
I beg Bungie, an Omolon sniper with that roll and Uzume's scope. I'll sell my soul for it.
@Ominous_Omen_9 күн бұрын
Love that type of content! I hope weapons will be again the center of that looter shooter game, for now we can spam abilities and generate transcendence with area denials..
@pokemontrainerthink90458 күн бұрын
I use no hesitation, alethonym, and commemoration with my omnioculous build for gms. Sure I don't get many kills but the team stays alive and full on ammo.
@okokm90998 күн бұрын
Not sure if you are going to read this as i am a little late, but i think the format on these videos could be a little better. Separating the weapons into kinetic/solar/void/arc/strand/stasis is not very useful, there are not many moments where i wonder "i wish i had a void hand cannon now" versus "i wish i had a good hand cannon now". Talking about each weapon type as a whole and citing best options for each slot seems to me to be more useful, but i guess thats just preference
@williamfarren47348 күн бұрын
As someone who has farmed a judgment with headstone and a damage perk, I can confirm that stats alone make eyasluna the superior choice by a wide margin, even without an origin trait
@iamluigib10 күн бұрын
Exactly the type of video I needed. Thanks Datto!
@EnragedCucco10 күн бұрын
Love the series, but a suggestion from a colourblind player if you are to do another next act: Can the keys on your graph be sorted by %? Some of the colours can be hard to match to the legend, but are easy to differentiate on the pie chart from one another, so it would make it a lot easier to view
@mohammedalkhalidi834810 күн бұрын
The disclaimer at the beginning to not piss anyone off is so funny even though someone will probably still get pissed
@axelfure10 күн бұрын
Haven't played in months and don't plan to return unless the boys do but I'm here for my man Datto.
@Just_be_yourself1093 күн бұрын
Someone you've never met cannot be "your man" ditch the Parasocial relationship. Like get a grip dude, look at yourself
@axelfure3 күн бұрын
@ Buddy it’s just an expression, l wanted to show support for a content creator I enjoy who’s a person too. Why waste both of our time with a negative remark for no reason?
@wobbegongsharkfacts12014 күн бұрын
hey datto! i'm watching during episode 1, you said the rose should be available at banshee in episodes 2 and 3, will the rose also be made available for episode 1?
@crayoneater60349 күн бұрын
Luna Regolith III from Vanguard has quickly become my favourite PvP sniper, it took seasons to get Snap Opening on it, but once i finally got a 5/5, it feels so so crispy, just a shame it was a massive pain in the ass to get a good roll on it
@HemenesKoK10 күн бұрын
Elitist take: shoot to loot makes vulpecula the best hc by a wide margin. Mostly because in a good build ammo is a non factor a prismatic ability spam makes primary weapons look useless in terms of ad clear thus a utility perk is much more potent
@gengarclefairy347510 күн бұрын
Prismatic (especially stasis turret and consecration) you don’t even need primary weapons lmao
@SavvyMon49 күн бұрын
Only time I’ve used it is for dps phases on my hunter. Especially during the witness fight
@W0nderStress9 күн бұрын
I've been running a Deafaning Whisper with Ambitious/Rampage on my void builds for forever now. Volatile really pushes it into top tier
@HawkmoonaMatata10 күн бұрын
I think having a "best overall" on a slot by slot category could be helpful for new players. If you ask me, it doesn't really help if you give me 4 "good energy SMGs" if out of those four, there are some clear better-and-worse choices. I understand this is average and thus, in average content, it really doesn't matter if you use a Chaos Reshaped or Headstone SMG, they're both gonna be good, but if we're already giving definitive answers on which gun is the best you might as well go all the way and tell me, according to the community, what actually is the best? Multimach or Imminence?
@Grassouillelafripouille10 күн бұрын
Fun fact : there is sometimes something called preference
@GenXstacker10 күн бұрын
It's going to completely depend on what you are doing.
@Hazelxel7 күн бұрын
Can't really do that because activity modifiers exist and if you don't care about that you're not going to need a best in slot anyways.
@Gootendo7 күн бұрын
Sovereignty with withering gaze and explosive payload is a monster. It is one of my favorite pve snipers in the energy slot :)
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
Legato-11 is amazing as a slug with some great and unique rolls, no idea why this wasn't mentioned. Slugs are rising in popularity in pvp as well and this one has lone wolf/closing time though I still perfer the adept Inquisitor with perpetual/opening shot.
@VelocityXtC9 күн бұрын
The liturgy disrespect
@johnotron60410 күн бұрын
Would love to see a mid-summer event for Event weapons. Couldn't really farm the Dawning weapons this year and would love another opportunity to get a Reconstruction + Bait and Switch Crowing Duologue. A few more Arcane Embrace rolls couldn't hurt either. I got both Rewind/Subsistence + Tremors BrayTech Werewolf but those would be great for other people to get too. It's the less awesome sounding but identical stats Breakneck and you don't have to do Gambit.
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
34:15 slammer with eager/cold steel has completely replaced my other half. Cold steel does decent damage with all the shatters while also being able to stun both overloads and unstops with a single click. It slows with a single light attack which stuns overloads and because it's a vortex frame the heavy attack hits enough times to freeze in 1 heavy attack for unstops. So it's imo the most versitile sword in the game, the ONLY time I ever use something else is on the first Salvation's Edge boss where I swap to Summum Bonum if I'm the only one using it(highest dps of a legendary sword but doesn't play well with 2 or more for some reason) or Guillotine with double damage perks if someone else is on the Summun.
@SavvyMon49 күн бұрын
Slammer is easily the best eager edge sword in the game. Being able to deal with all 3 champion types makes it invaluable. Was using it to get my birthplace GM runs down under 6 and a half minutes.
@ChumblesMumbles9 күн бұрын
at 13:45 I liked that 'who uses legendary bows lol' got a statistically relevant number of votes.
@omardobleb10 күн бұрын
I'm sorry to bring bad news, but you included Glacioclasm in the Kinetic/Stasis/Strand category, while being Void
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
16:14 prosecutor has voltshot rewind or voltshot dragonfly and has been out for a while now, though I'm not sure if it was around with your last video. Voltshot is MUCH MUCH better for lower end content, including things like normal raid and dungeons because things die b4 jolting feedback can proc, whereas the later is better for things like gms and master raid/dungeons. And voltshot also works in gms/master content as well so I feel therefore it's the much more versatile option overall. Plus you can proc it on an ad to immediately apply it to a boss unlike jolting which takes a min to proc therefore lowering your dps. Voltshot was used on solo raid clears because of it's ability to kind of pre proc it for instant application to a boss. Therefore, those clears wouldn't have been possible with jolting feedback instead.
@OGCRTG10 күн бұрын
Surprised Battle Scar wasnt mentioned in Kinetic Pulses 🤔 high fire rate weapons with Kinetic Tremors are fantastic
@AliceOfCrystal_10 күн бұрын
Battle Scar is Awesome!.. but the stats are awful and you need a Kinetic Tremors + Shoot to loot... Frankly Blast Furnace with One for All + Kinetic Tremors is in every way superior outside of simply wanting the utility of Shoot To Loot
@SavvyMon410 күн бұрын
Not craftable or enhanceable. So irrelevant
@KillerSneak8 күн бұрын
Any way to get a sheet / link to the poll results? (Would make it easier to go through a vault and see what can be done?)
@ethandempsey687410 күн бұрын
My opinion has arrived
@amikagahbo248710 күн бұрын
Wow dude your so original never heard that b4
@jordanreavis816310 күн бұрын
@@amikagahbo2487 you're
@amikagahbo248710 күн бұрын
@@jordanreavis8163 you ppl still exist ? Pathetic. Now correct my spelling of ppl
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
3:07 break neck can also get onslaught, which is amazing as well.
@zackphy10 күн бұрын
Randy's throwing knife is much better for shredding barrier shields than hung jury with gunshot straight/kinetic tremors. Thr Hung Jury OFA/KT roll gives a 35% buff for hitting 3 ads, whereas Gutshot gives a 30% buff to body shots and the kinetic tremor.....uhh.....tremors, count as body shots so they will ALWAYS be buffed by 30% no matter what. Also shots to barrier shields count as body shots also, therefore you get 30% extra damage to those as well, and you add in shield piercing rounds that's even more damage to them. Then because it shoots faster it just absolutely obliterates them. In a gm they break in like 3 shots which is extremely fast with it's rof.
@imajarebear10 күн бұрын
called out lingering dread for chill clip + disorienting but not liturgy from THIS SEASON? liturgy is also a better frame for pve
@stephenpaulson52426 күн бұрын
I have been very critical in the past, but this video shows a meta knowledge of what Bungie is up to. Great. Thank you.
@MunkyX1210 күн бұрын
as a filthy casual who has loved glaives since they were put out and as has one on since then i have to shout some love for them, i love the dexterity to them for the things i do with them, yeah ive never raided and mostly play solo and don't do much hard stuff but the things i do do with them is just fun and badass, some points are im a big melee guy at heart, was in love with swords when they came out, didn't use anything else but obviously range was an issue and taking up the heavy slot was a problem, of course you got your melee button but too close no damage its not proper melee as we all know, its just a boop out my way thing that already dead, so when glaives were announced i even remember thinking watching the which queen trailer, its first person and fires a shot? sign me up, then got my hands on it and omg i was in love, actual decent damage destroying mobs then bam shooting at stuff and getting the same sort of feel as using a shotgun when its close range, thats the weapon for me and though i am crafting andy i gotta give my judement of kellgeroth its due, i did a run of the deep dungeon, i forget its name, first time and when its the bit where you gotta light the 3 statues to get to dps i was just running through fools glaiving them in the face and thanks to i assume my recuperation mod i was mkaing orbs per kill and getting heath back faster then i was taking it as long as i kept on swinging and it was soo much fun and then you blast a groung with incandesent and then stab themm and they explode then there mates explode, its just a ton of fun and i recommend a glaive to anyone
@GenXstacker10 күн бұрын
I've collected a number of primo glaives and never got around to trying them out. Someone used them against me in PvP with decent success. But he was coming in close so I was able to counter with Witherhoard.
@Weebfox7 күн бұрын
I love datto talks perks style videos
@saxdrummerjp9 күн бұрын
Demo wellspring on something new has been one of my favorite things recently, but i get why it wouldnt be a topic of discussion
@SavvyMon49 күн бұрын
At least you’re self aware. Better than 90% of this community.
@LanceizPro10 күн бұрын
Just goes to show, voting doesn’t always give good results. Gotta separate the PvE from PvP ranking. It’s fair to mention you’re primarily a PvE player like myself, but I laughed out loud when I saw Prophet of Doom or any precision frame shotgun ranked well. Voting based on feel can be easily swayed by ease in which weapons can be acquired, as evidenced by results with Prophet of Doom. Dead Weight from gambit is objectively a better arc shotgun in a better frame, but acquiring a one-two punch roll is admittedly more difficult with grinding gambit and focusing engrams. Just one example. Aegis’ spreadsheets have empirical data with extensive testing. Much more objective than results from this video.
@giovannirossi79110 күн бұрын
I like xenoclast for arc shotgun
@seriouschip10 күн бұрын
23:56 can confirm Discord goes hard on Scavenger's Fate, especially if you rock No Backup Plans
@SavvyMon410 күн бұрын
Too bad precision pellet frames are doo doo in pve
@ItsClassickk10 күн бұрын
Our beloved energy SMG’s have fallen off so hard even Datto has forsaken them 😢
@HaseebKhan-wf9rq10 күн бұрын
Fantastic video as always, only thing I thing is egregiously wrong is the strand shotguns. I actually think Swordbreaker is the WORST of the 3 strand shotguns and probably only won beause it provided easy acess to 12 punch before Perfect Paradox came out.
@arcadia_48486 күн бұрын
It’s always refreshing to know at least 30% of your vault is still viable 😂😂
@MrWrighthw10 күн бұрын
Nice list! Thanks for insights!
@Necro2Mutou10 күн бұрын
"I don't think the class swords are available right now" Xur sells them periodically.
@Jaydizzzle10 күн бұрын
They need to update Cartesian! Deafening whisper is my favorite too! I believe line I. The sand I better with bait and switch. Edge transit is great but I prefer the acosmic rapid void gl with bait and switch. I believe it's slept on.
@chickenlover648910 күн бұрын
chattering bone getting that few votes makes me sad, i love that thing, hits like a truck with kinetic tremors + kill clip
@OptimusBean10 күн бұрын
Thank you
@2bithacker10 күн бұрын
"I left out class swords because not everyone has one of each class and I don't even think they're possible to get anymore" Doesn't Xur sell the class swords every weekend?
@gengarclefairy347510 күн бұрын
He’s not supposed to be he has been selling them a lot lately. Hunter one used to be absurd and still is the most fun sword in the game imo, warlock one is shite and the Titan one is great for slamming champions
@Speedie196210 күн бұрын
They are on sale most weeks
@SpiderReviver10 күн бұрын
@@gengarclefairy3475 Xur has sold the old class swords every single week since TFS. It's a guaranteed option from his loot pool.
@giovannirossi79110 күн бұрын
Also he said the list was gonna include weapons regardless if u can obtain or not
@giovannirossi79110 күн бұрын
The hunter arc one is one of the best dps swords in the game
@bigZ_270510 күн бұрын
Why is scatter signal ranked higher than nox? For boss dmg, isn’t nox better? If we’re talking for majors and whatnot then I guess scatter signal is best
@SpiderReviver10 күн бұрын
Rapid fusions have best dps of the fusion archetypes and overflow is easier to use. High-impacts like Nox have about 10% worse dps, but very deep reserves (about 40% more total dmg). Though you typically aren't dumping all of your heavy and special in a dps phase, so scatter is generally preferred.
@bigZ_270510 күн бұрын
@@SpiderReviver ahh ok. I was under the impression nox was better because of the old eremite hype (first with controlled burst I believe). Thanks for the tip
@masterSageHarpuia10 күн бұрын
Why is speleologist so low on solar machine guns? It has sideways and killing tally, that means you can keep up killing tally up forever almost like commemoration. Yes it is a rapid fire, but no other solar machine guns can do that.
@SavvyMon410 күн бұрын
Because it’s a rapid fire and besides retrofit which is also poop, no one uses them
@warv655210 күн бұрын
Subsistence/killing tally on Unwavering duty is just better and on a better frame. Rapid fires mgs feel like poop to use for ad clear.
@GenXstacker10 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion: My favorite solar MG is Thermal Erosion. In the right build it cooks. I used it in the Encore timed mission and it chewed through the boss every time.
@IAmTrashhy10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this I don’t have really any PvE weapons and don’t play PvE much but would like to get into GMs, dungeons and maybe raids if I’m up for it. Appreciate you!
@newoeldnirp729810 күн бұрын
When is someone going to tell him that Legato exists? 😂 Glad he at least mentioned Veleda my pick for PvP, embraced for PvE.
@SFSR610 күн бұрын
This is awesome!!!! thank you so much!
@kajus10 күн бұрын
Quick note, Datto, bc you've said it in a few videos at this point. The 'weightgate' guns at Banshee are not bought. They cost nothing. They are free to pick up, requiring no Glimmer.
@doktorsmiles20348 күн бұрын
I think you or the community missed a good choice for void snipers (didnt see it on the wheel) Frozen Orbit. Solid perks for both pve and pvp, easy aquiring (pvp fokussing) Not top of the line, but in my opinion top 3 void sniper
@seanrath604310 күн бұрын
Sweet love a weapons list!
@ListenToAJ10 күн бұрын
The slammer with eager edge cold steel to this day is my most used weapon, movement + champ stuns is amazing
@cameronsalmon131410 күн бұрын
20:12 Is Heliocentric still a world drop? I haven’t gotten one to drop for me in a while.
@coa370410 күн бұрын
it's now a focus option at banshee, stack engrams and wait for Nadir weapons day
@Redthewolf201210 күн бұрын
as a sword aficionado, EE is slightly overrated, pretty much only useful for movement, replacing great ammo econ perks. As for the class swords, theyre almost always available, with Banshee and Xur both selling them regularly
@Shellnanigans7 күн бұрын
i really like song of ir yut with reconstruct and bait/switch. it may not be the best, but its easy to use and does consistent damage
@Gusdangle9 күн бұрын
Qua Xaphan not being mentioned on void machine guns is criminal that thing shreds if used right
@MrJakeasaur9810 күн бұрын
Nah Sightline Survey is the best arc hc hands down people capping Some others notes for me at least; - Shayuras Wrath deserves a mention (noting Datto addressed energy slot smgs in the pinned comment as it was missing from the video) for pvp prowess. - I think Horrors Least was undervoted because its a strong pvp pick imo for weapon handling.
@SavvyMon410 күн бұрын
Posterity is miles better than sightline lol
@ZachPlum9 күн бұрын
Bro I just bought from Logitech two days ago why you gotta drop a code now 😢
@Sivikss9 күн бұрын
Kept confidence so situational but one of the strongest weapons for strand builds when picked right
@AdS-229710 күн бұрын
Would be cool if this was in a wishlist to use on DIM
@cellianexurianity502110 күн бұрын
I wouldn't sleep on prophecy's arc auto rifle, rewind rounds plus voltshot go pretty hard.
@SavvyMon410 күн бұрын
Zero synergy
@cellianexurianity502110 күн бұрын
@SavvyMon4 wrong, i've tested it, every tine rewind activates, so does voltshot
@SavvyMon410 күн бұрын
@@cellianexurianity5021 wrong. Voltshot only procs off doing the reload animation on your weapon.
@greystorm997410 күн бұрын
amazing break down! thanks you!
@BikPlays10 күн бұрын
can you make a video for best damage overall instead of like best for each attribute. i wanna know like which sniper in kinetic to use for dps or which gl etc.
@cameronmorris305010 күн бұрын
Soveriegnty gets Discord/Harmony which, with the recent sniper buffs, goes crazy for major clear in mid to high tier activities.
@IceBloo3 күн бұрын
No mention for kinetic slot trace rifles?
@jeremyscott47585 күн бұрын
Xur has the class swords every weekend. At least he has the hunter sword (quickfang) every weekend. Don't know about the others as I only play hunter.
@athenawiltfong57177 күн бұрын
Personally, the new scout, Red Tape, has turned out to be the absolutely best going right now. It eats enemies.