This is the 2nd best exotic shotgun in the game. BUT, I'm still whelmed.

shadow's b̶a̶n̶e̶ fang was added with the most recent exotic mission and i took a couple of days to really get a feel for it. and... i'm feeling it, just maybe not that much.
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[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

Ever since Conditional Finality came out, every exotic shotgun that came after it are forever cursed to be compared to that beast.

[@realnoble676]

Hate to be that guy.. no I don’t lol “every exotic shotgun that came after” this is the first exotic shotgun since conditional…😂 before the flame, of course this is a joke put your pitch forks away, and yes I 100% agree every exotic shotgun compared to conditional is terrible, pve wise atleast cus that’s where most of my experience is.

[@sauceinmyface9302]

This is the only exotic shotgun that has released since Conditional Finality though

[@Amirifiz]

Hard to beat freeze and ignition every other shot. Though, I do like this gun simply cause I don't have Cond Finality 😢

[@mutantraze3681]

Conditional isnt even insane or anything. Its just a solid exotic without a hard niche. Exotics SHOULD outperform legendaries like conditional

[@BotFisherman]

For me, Conditional packs the hardest punch while also being the only double-barrel shotgun we currently have. Slayer's definitely has some of the most flair imo, and I can appreciate it

[@connornance3073]

it’s a gun with a ton of different utilities and features but no single outstanding niche. I think its relevance will depend on artifact perks a lot more than the average exotic (which is fun because it has lots of opportunities for fun interactions - but NOT fun because if it could just pick ONE thing to be really good at I’d use it all the time)

[@djungelskog9581]

I just wish it had that void rain effect intrinsically, it would really help to give it some flavour

[@oryxfirstnavigator4795]

​@@djungelskog9581 Fingers crossed Bungie actually adds it to the fun when the artifact perk leaves, or whatever use it's getting now will drop off drastically.

[@lninjafastl]

@@djungelskog9581 agreed

[@fangslore9988]

skill issues. if you aren't getting higher dps than pellet shots you're not using it right, try going for the crits, its like Chaperone in that regard. so you have to completely adjust how you use the shotgun and use it differently

[@oryxfirstnavigator4795]

@fangslore9988 my thoughts exactly. It's mainly a slug shotgun and should be used as such

[@gascan7333]

Animation team went off. But yeah that ain’t enough to save it for me.

[@IKingCaesar]

If one new reload animation is them “going off” the bar must be extraordinarily low lmao

[@VCXZ883]

They really should've allowed Nightsworn Sight to proc instantly from getting a precision hit to make it a bit easier to activate against big targets. Also, what were they thinking with Loose Change and Stats for All? It's like someone on the design team was completely unaware that it reloads like a rifle instead of like a typical shotgun. And speaking of, I wish Bungie would do more craftable catalysts like Wish Keeper, that actually interact with the unique part of the exotic instead of just being perks you an get on a legendary weapon.

[@xthecre8or735]

Exactly

[@stickdrip_7581]

I think the idea behind those two is that Stats4all procs from the scatterrounds hitting other ads and loose change procs when you get nightsworn active and apply weaken. Also yeah the reload animation almost looks like it was intended to load like a traditional shotgun at some point.

[@bloonjitsu7148]

@@stickdrip_7581 the funny part is that loose change is bugged to not proc on weaken

[@thechunkmaster8794]

You know Stats For All boosts more than just reload speed, right?

[@stickdrip_7581]

@bloonjitsu7148 oh really? Welp add that to the bug list lol

[@Destifides]

I’m honestly really starry eyed with it, wading through nightfalls with blatant disregard of enemy fire due to copious amounts of overshields and devour is just really fun. Could I be exploding hordes with consecration? Yea, but I’ve got like 3 builds that do that already and I’ve never gotten conditional finality. When ability spam is the norm in this game, having a build where your abilities instead compliment the weapon (throwing shield for easy overshield proc, grenade for kills, orbs, and volatile), is just really neat. It’s never going to crush GMs, but god does it feel good to play in anything else with.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

What’s your build? How do I achieve this?

[@Destifides]

@ no back up plans, slayer’s fang, echo of instability, hunger, and whichever one grants orbs and void breaches on weaken kills. Bastion at least for aspect, the other one that gives melee damage and grenade recharge with overshields is good.

[@fangslore9988]

i went with nezarec's sin and with the shotgun then added reloaders scavengers finders and scouts as well as special ammo finisher to ensure i have vortex nades and set it so even my grenade will weaken targets so i have plenty of sources to get overshields from alongside devourer

[@TheMax107]

Compared to our other energy void specials especially velocity baton which doesnt take up your exotic slot i understand why everyone is whelmed

[@MTCHYNG]

oh great my show is on

[@penlandsux1323]

if i had a nickel for every Void Special Exotic obtained through an Exotic Mission that Bungie released in Act 3 of a post-TFS Episode, I would have two nickels. On one hand, the weapon aesthetics seem to be very cool, and Loose Change actually seems like a competitive choice for catalyst along with Repuslor. On the other hand, see above. And as you mentioned, every Exotic Shotgun is going to be compared to Conditional Finality unless it is drastically different, like Tractor Cannon.

[@sylokthedefiled7650]

If I had a nickel for every void special exotic weapon from the first season of an expansion that has a wyvern themed fire mode I'd have two nickels.

[@gartblart3330]

it also should be noted that the submunitions don’t have the same range limitations as the main shot. if you think a dude is out of one-shot range you can shoot the floor in front of them or the wall behind and it might get the kill off. it’s a ton of fun when you can pull it off

[@fleefie]

It's an exotic which has "this thing shits out anelemental verb all over the place" in a world where that's done by legendaries and abilities. It's pretty much just withering gaze + cascade point in PvE. It's why I'll always suggest for exotics to leave the verbs to the legendaries and do unique stuff. Choir is a good example. So is Hierarchy (even if it's kind of mid). I loved conditional because freeze and ignition in neutral aren't things done by legendaries. Euphony is another good example, or grav lance. These are all exotics that succeed at feeling unique and having a niche. They coincidentally all either use no subclass verbs as their main gimmick, or use them in novel and unique ways (euphony and conditional). I can't replace Conditional's job with Deliverance. I can replace slayer's fang the instant that we get a box weaken and desperate measures slug.

[@icarusrising2787]

I love all of this. Unfortunately destiny has been an assembly line of updates being checked boxes and this just happens to be the "we gave you guys an exotic because we had to" gun rather than one that got any amount of flavor

[@MeanAndPristine]

>I can replace Slayer’s Fang the moment we get a box weaken and Desperate Measures slug Which we don’t have yet, and if Strand weapons are any indicator, we likely won’t for awhile.

[@fleefie]

@@MeanAndPristine we have withering gaze and destab on a void fusion, close enough honestly. It's mostly about the future

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Definitely a furry

[@thechunkmaster8794]

One of the catalysts is Cascade Point, funnily enough.

[@RoachDoggJR.-]

"this thing deals bonus damage to scorn." thats cool, until you realize that the scorn are gonna be all but extinct in a few months lmao.

[@gavinhazan1415]

If the shadow legion are any indication of what’s to come with the scorn then no no they wont

[@huffingfluff]

1:05 The dev that made the shotgun confirmed that the buff spreading is intentional :)

[@adobejacobe]

Dope gun, I don't expect it to be on par with a raid exotic shotgun, so it's nice to pair this with any void kit!

[@CIII__]

Not sure why they would release this after Choir If they really wanted it to be void, wasn’t this the perfect opportunity for a primary ammo shotgun?

[@BatM-l6j]

This gun feels like icebreaker the shotgun. A special weapon ment as a primary(for add clear) but gets beaten by legendaries in every situation.

[@oxsila]

Not one void shotgun is as good as this. You're wrong.

[@sirfeint6302]

@@oxsila True. I've been looking for a Void Slug forever. Nessa's is okay, but I'd rather have something with better perks, personally. I really surrounded, but that's not on Nessa.

[@dankerbell]

hop off iceGOAT, i love the infinite ammo and infinite ignitions on a rimecoat raiment build

[@matthewsellards7464]

Hear me out….. This shotgun with repulsor brace refit on a voidlock with Astrocyte Verse and echo of obscurity. Select all artifact mods that involve void as well as the total carnage artifact mods that gives you a powerful over shield. Constant volatile from blinking, constant void over shield from repulsor and finishers. Lets you be safe while constantly in prime shotgun range. Throw in a few void surges and you destroy everything

[@MeanAndPristine]

That’s clever, might try that tonight

[@Gravesyte]

I really wish Bungie would implement a way to save artifact perks with loadouts

[@matthewsellards7464]

@@MeanAndPristinehow did you like it?

[@MeanAndPristine]

@@matthewsellards7464 I’m sure it would function better if I had more practice using Blink 😅 but I can’t say I was dying very much. Grade A survivability

[@intelliligibleverbose2340]

I use a Devour based Voidwalker build with Skull of Dire Ahamkara. I activate Devour and volatile rounds with Scatter grenades to turn Slayer’s Fang into a pocket nuke that grants Nova Bomb energy more quickly than a roaming super. The true sight is also useful in finding enemies to extend Devour. With Repulsor Brace, I become very difficult to kill in swarming situations with the intrinsic weaken on top of volatile rounds.

[@grottymink7784]

You nailed my feelings on Cascade Point and Stats for All. If it was up to me I'd swap them out for Desperado and either Lead From Gold or Discord respectively.

[@GeremyG]

The reload animation is cool I guess

[@xspectre_id]

Couldn’t agree more on the meh vibe. It’s cool it just doesn’t feel super exotic. I feel like a slug with Withering Gaze and Cascade Point would be super similar to this. Also it should have been anti barrier.

[@dwferox]

I realize this only applies to this season (episode), but shotguns are already anti-barrier in the artifact, so maybe that's why they avoided it.

[@haydenw7981]

About the anti barrier thing, i saw a comment on another video that i thought fit really well. This is supposed to be the "anti-vampire" gun right? What champion is most similar to a vampire? Overload captains! Regenerating health, non stop teleportation, that kind of thing. I think it fits that if you agree that overloads are the most vampire-like champion

[@xspectre_id]

@ mmmm that’s very valid good point

[@DPantherful1]

Keep an eye out for the next raid/dungeon weapon to have that roll. The 'Legendary (insert exotic here) Version' are usually raid weapon tier. Current Famous example being Zaouli's Bane = Sunshot What I want to see (and I would find funny) is the Legendary Thunderlord: An Arc Adaptive 450 with Onslaught + Jolting Feedback.

[@TheChinchillaArmy]

I’m in love with the sound of the shot, not to mention truesight on warlock is fun.

[@strakk]

This gun is a really gun exotic, it is not meta nor overpowered so it has no place in endgame level content over other exotics, but thats like 95% of the exotics in the game so i doesn't bother me as much. It is just a Fun Useful Shotgun

[@christianv2921]

It really is the perfect “meh” exotic. If I want to use a void special exotic for weaken I’m throwing on buried bloodline. If I want to slay out, I throw on Choir of One. This thing just doesn’t do anything good enough to warrant a use

[@thechunkmaster8794]

Buried Bloodline’s more for Devour than Weaken, and this exotic both grants Truesight and out-damages it by a wide margin.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@thechunkmaster8794yes, but it doesn’t heal you.

[@lesliejacoby9137]

Void deserved these back to back exotics seeing its stuck with Borealis (an actual void exotic sniper would have been so cool 😭), Hardlight was once a weapon, and colony and truth are funny. Black talon is my baby and will not be slandered (plz buff)

[@Nautilus_pilot]

Most of the perks can work together well, but unless they fixed it, weaken can't proc Loose Change, so the catalyst isn't sustainable with the weapon alone. It has been either a bug or some unlisted intentional feature of the perk since it launched.

[@zaza7499]

Really love using this with mask of the quiet one, bothing relaly special but i love running in there getting devour and truesight

[@wremch]

I know it’s said everytime but I’m so tired of things releasing broken/bugged on release and we just have to hope it’s fixed sooner rather than later

[@vugolol]

I think that after using it with Cascade Point for a while it kind of dawned on me that this gun will probably never be actually used for DPS and so I think Repulsor Brace should probably be the go to catalyst refit as the gun is designed for aggressive play and Repulsor will give you another layer of survivability and it procs of the gun itself which is good enough, but regardless, it is hard to want to use a special weapon for add clear when the ammo capacity isn't much better than a regular shotgun, especially when we just got Choir of One which is also Void and can play both the long range game and short range with burst.

[@CorvoCrowzZ]

I'm using this shotgun with Repulsor Brace, the exotic No Backup Plans on Prismatic Titan, and it's working very well I think, well, I say this without having the Conditional Finality (which probably explains a lot)

[@amorfati4927]

Repulser Brace with No Back Up Plans seems very redundant

[@Commander_Pika]

Cascade point also procs on other weapon hits, not just kills. (So you could weaken, swap to other weapon to proc cascade point, then swap back). As to why use this shotty over others? For me, it's cuz your reload the whole mag at once, not each shell individually. That's a rare trait and comes in handy if you are using this weapon heavily.

[@cameronmcewan4628]

Datto, u should try this with the void briarbinds build. i had a lot of fun throwing the void soul on, then blasting an enemy with the debuffs on them

[@mobiousone27]

Use that prismatic titan and use bravery with that shotty. Still using mark with synthis/hoil. Using fang of irut. Scout barrier plus your melee built procs the raid perk. Then using wicked sister for strand to proc unraveling rounds on both strand weapons. You get volitile rounds for the shotty. No brainer. Super broke.

[@stickdrip_7581]

Im finding it really good for clearing ads, any enemies behind the first you shoot get shredded.

[@awesomeguy9513]

The heart piercer perk is kinda weak like the projectile splits and it stuns overloads I might’ve added split projectiles hits cause targets to become volatile to cause more chaos or hits or kills whatever seems more fair would cause the nightsworn perk to stack up to idk 3-5 that buffs the perk depending on the stack. The gun is fun and the seemingly extra scorn damage is also a good if that part stays but it’s a meh gun overall, does have a cool reload animation

[@KilothATEOTT]

It’s a real Jack of all trades, master of none. It doesn’t have a single powerful feature, just a couple of good features. It’s a solid shotgun, usable in plenty of places, just not every place.

[@humu39]

It needs more range to be used in higher teir content because almost every GM has the LONGEST ranges. If it had a catalyst that made you invisible then I would be more likely to use it in GM level content, either way fun exotic to use and it works pretty well for a shotgun.

[@gengarclefairy3475]

Stylish executioner go brrrr

[@icarusrising2787]

Fr I'd rather an invisibility perk rather than an overshield perk. Makes much more sense with the low reserves and weaken to help it play into an assassin style of weapon

[@mclarenf1lm154]

Half of the reason I love this gun is the firing sound.

[@deandrenunn3128]

"He's overwhelmed,you're underwhelmed. Why isn't anyone just whelmed"

[@SavvyMon4]

Young justice reference HUGE W

[@Noapologies-q3p]

repulsor brace allows you to use no back up plan and not lock yourself to void subclass or void super on prismatic. so you can maybe go with berserker have both woven mail and void over shield for massive dr.

[@ZayOsirisGaming]

Truth be told; I prefer stats for all. You’re inevitably going to shoot multiple targets with this gun, and it me, it doesn’t feel like a DSP weapon - from a traditional point of view. It can deal with champions, and lower tier targets fairly well. But in a damage rotation, we have a lot of powerful options. I’d be hard pressed to choose this over something like dragon’s breath.

[@BrenGamerYT]

I missed the final illusion to get cascade point because my team killed the boss right before I could get it. Now I have to do this mission a FOURTH time, on expert no less, to get it and do the secrets for the other perks? Honestly I don’t think I take Destiny seriously enough to care anymore. The exotic missions are always cool the first time, and then it’s just “I hope you’re ready to play them five more times unchanged!” and I’m really tired of it.

[@Focoz77]

"Because i dont know anymore, whats working as intended and whats not". Bungie Spaghetii code at its finest.

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

It’s fine… Shotguns generally just have no place in PvE unless they can bring mega utility like Condish

[@adummy9664]

I knew this was never going to be able to follow up the sheer flexibility of Choir of One, but as far as shotguns go I think it's about as good as it can be. Repulsor Brace is definitely the play on it since it seems to be more of an add-clearing weapon that can still chunk down major targets, and I felt like the range on it can hit a bit farther out than you'd expect due to all the extra bouncy submunitions, not to mention the innate overload gives it some baseline utility. I don't think every new exotic needs to be meta defining, just provide something unique that gives some alternative playstyle options while still being at least viable when used correctly.

[@jenarickman9215]

This is honestly the first weapon in a while I have been using purely because its just really fun to use

[@windwalker3081]

They need to give this gun that void falling star artifact as an intrinsic perk.

[@xthecre8or735]

I fw the shotgun heavy, used it on gfalcon in expert kelle falls runs and it holds up. Definitely suited for up close and personal ad dense encounters and not the long range playstyle of most GMs. Only gripe is most the catalysts are pointless and I’d argue it’s better as intrinsic anti barrier since the exotic perk is literally called “heart piercer”

[@veggai]

conditional will always be the best tool shotgun yes, very strong at that, but, for dps no, that goes to chaperone which this new shotgun still goes 2nd to so it's neat

[@fakeplasticgamers9850]

4:22 I rarely press the disk button but when I do...

[@metroidhunter965]

As far as secondary shotguns are concerned, I’m perfectly happy with my Basso. The slam-firing high RPM shotgun fits in my in-your-face playstyle perfectly.

[@richardkelley9380]

It’s one of those exotics that you play around with until the new wears off and then stick it in your vault never to use it again

[@ruthlesslistener]

This is personally the only shotgun I actually like to play with, ignoring Lord of Wolves (which doesnt act like a shotgun imo), so I'm pretty pleased with it. That being said, I do wish it felt a little more crazy than it does. Hard to explain what that 'crazy' would be, but I think after Conditional Finality (last exotic shotgun released) and Choir of One (last end-of-episode exotic), it's kind of hard to hold Slayer's Fang up to them and not just be whelmed by it

[@FettuccineAllaGay]

The sights of this gun definitely don’t feel like they were designed with precise rapid firing in mind. Especially while Cascade Point is active.

[@irrelevantnamehandle]

as far as ive been playing with, its a fun gun for sure, has some utility and fills a very specific niche, but i can see why everyone is so whelmed by it. since it doesn’t really move the needle, also if releasing after choir of one doesn’t help it’s case when choir does everything it does, but better. really does feel like a mistake releasing two back to back void exotics lol. i think it could use a buff or two, maybe allow nightsworn sight to proc on rapid precision hits and give it four extra shots in reserve (21 up to 25) would be good enough to let it have some single target utility and let you spec into weaken.

[@Aj-py8en]

I wish more of these craft able exotics had catalysts like Wish-Keeper instead if just using legendary perks. Imagine if instead of cascade point, a perk that requires oyu to use the gun in a eay thats incompatible with its exotic traits, there was acatalyst that improved Rate of Fire while Nightworn Sight is active. Things along those lines are way more interesting than just slapping a legendary perk onto the weapon.

[@nappy6806]

Shotguns needs a reserve and more range buff in pve, there literally space sci-fi weapons like try to be more loose with them. Nobody uses melee or close range weapons in endgame or semi difficult content cause u instantly get deleted if ur anywhere close to an enemy. Not to mention stomp mechanics…

[@thechunkmaster8794]

This is a slug shotgun. You can dome bosses with it outside of their stomp range.

[@MACKHuey]

Yes guys I´ve heard about Adaxum, it will be absolutely huge. All major exchanges will list ADX shortly after the launch.

[@Zenlore6499]

Extra damage to Scorn is very handy at the end of the Scorn Episode 😒 I won’t rush to get it, but I’ll try to get it soon

[@resentfusion5634]

Haven't gotten to play with it after I got it but I've been waiting since the start of the episode to make a No Backup Plans build so heres hoping this thing slaps with it

[@cameronsalmon1314]

It’d actually be really cool if the projectiles made it the furthest ranged shotgun in PvE. Its damage falloff looks really deceptive with its projectiles.

[@bepisaxe4464]

I think the reason I'm really underwhelmed with this weapon is because of the competition. It's not just competing with Con Fin. It's also cpmpetong with Choir as a void exotic special weapon, and Choir is way too versatile for Slayers fang to even have a chance. Choir can do long range, close range, weak enemy clear, HVT burst AND solid damage. This shit can weaken, and kill multiple enemies under the condition of them being in an almost straight line. Not saying the weapon isn't fun, but I feel like it could've been better.

[@nyxmoon23]

Bungie should've given this exotic intrinsic anti-barrier instead of overload (mainly bc it doesn't actually stun overloads) but the fact that its bullets are designed to look like they pierce targets. Big missed opportunity with that

[@BIGFESH]

As long as conditional finality exists then there are no other shotguns I care abaht.

[@MeanAndPristine]

I really love this gun with Repulsor Brace/Gyrfalcon’s. Feels super safe

[@PopularNobody]

Basing how good an exotic is based on high level content is wild. By your logic Sunshot is bad

[@ZeroTheOtter]

as a main of everything void and a lover of slug shotguns, this is probably my new favorite weapon off pure fun factor alone. dont think it needs to be meta, its just fun

[@Glitch177]

If your not using NBP your missing out on a lot of extra damage this gun can deal. It's real easy for non slug users to get used to and in that opinion a great "training" gun to teach players how to use a slug effectively because it punishes less on missed shots.

[@Nick-82]

I dislike how in the trailer they made it seem like the void storm thing came from the shotgun instead of the artifact

[@dankerbell]

it was always gonna be pretty dead on arrival considering: shotgun and void special after choir of one

[@DerultimativeOzzy]

Its alright and the reload to fully fill the pipe of the gun with 1 bullet is really appreciated as QoL but feels a little too safe and tame on the whole void-verbs aspect of the gun. Its not that it needs to do 1 quadrillion DPS per successful tax evasion to be good , just something a bit more unique in playstyle. If you want to go and apply weaken frequently, there's more than 1 exotic already that can help with that and now even some legendaries do that. Maybe they could have leaned into void invisibility and give the gun a massive damage bonus when firing while invisible , grant massive movement speed and give it ways to reasonably go invisible on its own so you could use this like a high burst mini-boss killer weapon. Like the stake you use to pierce into a vampire's heart. For now it seems like almost any other void weapon that plays with commonly used verbs. Its alright.

[@thechunkmaster8794]

Idk, I think the Truesight is pretty neat.

[@mattwx5479]

Doom Fang titan and lean into making orbs and void breaches and throw on a heavy destabilizing rounds LMG. Perfect

[@Sautedigger]

Cool shotgun, offers versatility, high damaging rounds, I see this as a win

[@Saint-8]

Awesome, one of the guns of all time. Bungo's done it again!

[@Langston42]

I’m not super hyped about shottys at base in PvP or PvE, so I’m kinda low on this one. I like getting more ways to apply weaken… but weaken doesn’t really do as much for me as Jolt or even slow as far as utility.

[@EngineeeeerGaming]

It's better on Hunter and Warlock to give near constant Void Overshield and weaken. The weakening ricochet rounds, especially with volatile rounds, are so much fun.

[@TheFawse]

In terms of special ammo exotic shotties, I’ve been enjoying Chaperone a lot lately. Once you proc Roadborn it does amazing damage, and you don’t need a kill first since you can proc it with 3 crits now. I actually like it a lot more than this one I think shotguns still need a reserves buff, though

[@thechunkmaster8794]

I’m curious as to how this shotgun compares to Chaperone with regards to range.

[@faridronin]

​@@thechunkmaster8794 chaperone clears

[@thechunkmaster8794]

@@faridronin Even with Stats For All?

[@faridronin]

@@thechunkmaster8794 if you build pure range with stats for all it still has 10 less range than chaperone.

[@W1lly.W]

Exactly my experience as well. I'd rather rock my vs velocity baton and rocket sidearm with the consecration Titan. Maybe it's good for hunters as you do get that invisibility triggered easily. But just having a tiny Overshields in a GM will absolutely get you wrecked if you use this shotgun as a primary.

[@eintracht691]

If I want a void shotgun from an exotic quest, I'll use Choir of One.

[@petrlazar5240]

I mean... cool, but will I take off my Choir of One on my Void Hunter for this shotty? Probably not.

[@zyphreiumv4529]

Definitely a 'I will use this in 95% of content, not endgame stuff like GMs and Masters' kinda gun.

[@S1erra107]

It's a solid offering, and it has utility that other special exotics lack. A must have? nah. A fun gun to keep in your back pocket? Yeah, I'm chill with it

[@mortison7]

i think we’ve just hit a point where pve shotguns need some crazy range or damage boost to be viable

[@richardbertrand9939]

Buff duration need to be longer for perks that require kills

[@syd6654]

it’s a slug shotgun, enough said

[@bradyschulenberg6848]

Not running controlled demolition with offensive bulwark and finishers to go invis heavily diminishes this builds potential imo.

[@MrHeadshotable]

Special exotic shotguns will always be in a weird place for me. They have a more limited use case than other special weapons. They excel an neither ad clear, nor single target damage as well as the other options and don't have deep enough ammo reserves or a fast enough reload to be used in a generalist play style.

[@oxsila]

We need a fresh game where we dont have a full vault of weapons if any new weapon is to stand a chance of impressing.

[@stupididiot9336]

exactly, I just look at everything that comes out now and judge it by how fun it seems, not how strong or meta-defining it seems. We already have tons of extremely strong weapons, so expecting everything new to be able to compare or even power creep our best stuff is setting yourself up for disappointment.

[@Nato2303]

So, this time, Bungie made an exotic weapon in a way they won't have to nerf it in 2 weeks. Don't expect a buff either.

[@roundraccoon6141]

I agree. This is definitely one of the exotic shotguns of all time.

[@munin9530]

the gun should have had a way to generate ammo on ricochet kill or something

[@gartblart3330]

2:52 i agree. i’ve been having much more fun with HOIL personally

[@stingray5369]

whelmed and overwhelmed basically mean the same thing btw

[@manlythestanley8240]

Welp...it's a gun. Into the vault it goes

[@sylokthedefiled7650]

Honestly. I'd still rather just use Lord of wolves. Just give that gun an ammo economy buff and a tiny damage bump. And it's pretty decent. Give it that and make rapid precision hits grant radiant to yourself and nearby allies. And it becomes one of the best shotguns in the game.

[@KIMBratton-w6e]

The roadmap for Adaxum is super ambitious. If they can deliver on even half of it, we’re in for a massive ride. ADX to the moon?

[@rhyshuber9981]

The only use case I see for this thing is no backup plans but then not even that bc not running acrius on a no backup plans loadout is a hard sell

[@aidanmackenzie1042]

Honestly at this point I think the devs should just go ape shit with whatever they add. The game obviously doesn’t have that much left in the tank, and going out with an unbalanced bang rather than a typical safe whimper would be much better for it imo

[@habanerothecheese-a-pillar2507]

This thing is for sure one of the guns in Destiny 2.

[@ippapp2]

I kind of disagree. Having intrinsic overload on a special is S tier. The only problem with the weapon is that it stuns the overload but it is bugged and will not prevent the healing. I am enjoying Destiny 2 a lot right now with perfect paradox, this shotgun and a heavy grenade launcher, close quarter dealing with any Champion demolishing everything in my pathway. Can't wait until they have patched it so I can take it into a GM

[@gen8901]

Glad we're all on the same page.