The Best Legion Rogue Spec

[@Methodgg]

Got something you want to share about what Drybear went over in the video? Make sure to leave a comment. We at Method hope you all enjoy this new video, you can expect another video early next week detailing the best DPS spec for Shamans in Legion so SUBSCRIBE if you want to know when it goes live! Thanks very much for watching, if you enjoyed the video make sure to leave a LIKE.

[@KasperG87]

definately a more detailed rotational guide on assassin spec. in general i love the simplicity of this video and the pros and cons outlined. it made med want to go back to a rogue again as it was my original main and what i have been performing the best as for progressive raids throughout wow

[@RudolphTellez]

Awesome video! Make one for each class please! :)

[@CAB00M3R]

I'd like to see mage spec comparison.

[@lukealvarez8359]

I find extremely well single target dps with outlaw as well as the aoe putting myself up against several other players as outlaw rogue I killed them all. pve wise would be relatively similar in my stead but I see the want for blade flurry in dungeons. pvp wise single target is the way to go in my eyes.

[@sykkyusenpai7813]

finally i can play assassination in raids ^^ i was playing it since MoP but sadly couldnt use it for most bosses in WoD so I was very happy to see that assassination got such good changes :) IM HYPED

[@cvkpaper]

can you do one for warlocks, i have no clue whay spec to play

[@octanerage3150]

I'm in the same boat, lock video please!

[@JETTSY31]

Destro is currently the best

[@TheRobochicken5494]

+Jettsy xD are you shitting me ? xDDD DESTRO XDDDD HELL NO.

[@Kanelbullennnn]

Destro is the worst without a doubt lol

[@yani9o]

so tl;dr would be: AoE -> Outlaw, Single -> Assassin, Mobility/Fun -> Sub?

[@dariominiello9934]

what do you think after the big nerfs to assa?

[@dezarone4785]

+Aesthetic 2.0 lol no way because of one burst talent on a 45 second cd? its still fast paced gameplay and thats without vebdetta trait and kingsbane poison. we are fine. 100% increase is literally double the speed so dont know whats slow about it.

[@tazuna02]

fast paced ???? its slow as fuck now compared to what it was with t18

[@Janiity]

Is there a possibility to get those WeakAuras or even the interface from Khaheera?:D

[@doppelganger9570]

Thx for the guide, where can i find your auras bro?

[@khaheera9957]

You can find my rogue weakaura's here: docs.google.com/document/d/1MUKGIvvz6fEVNjmekSEWpSZrIZcJwrnU_kFj8M6jugw

[@tbrizzo]

@Drybear/Kaheera Can you post like a download of your entire UI? I mean, thanks a lot for the Auras, that's the tricky part if someone *wink* wanted to make an UI like yours But posting the entire thing would also be pretty cool But even if you don't do that, thanks a lot for the video!

[@zeroner777]

Is Assassin still best spec for pve endgame in legion after the 400% to 100% nerf ?

[@jzmmm]

FYI, the "b" is silent in subtlety... So it's pronounced suttelty. Why does it have a B in the word? Who the fuck knows, english is weird.

[@TonyGuinzo]

thanks, professor

[@TheTarne]

well deveelopers pronounce the b so yeah stfu

[@TravisArk]

the b is very sneaky

[@BasedChadman]

The B is a subtle little shit

[@BasedChadman]

The B is a subtle little shit

[@trancer03]

Drybear how do you feel with the latest changes? still 1. ass 2. outlaw 3. sub?

[@DagothDaddy]

perhaps I just suck at Legion Rogues cause I have raided as a Rogue since BT and played a rogue since Nax and I just suck ass I can to the DPS needed but I just can't seem to get it up high

[@Blankp1anet]

Are we going to see a video like this for all classes?

[@justjosh5444]

May i ask what you use to track your bleeds in such a beautiful way?

[@Umur64]

weakauras. the best addon in the game

[@Blgns]

Are you planning to release videos for all classes? Or all 3xdps specs classes and another video for all single dps specs classes ;D? (yep, its suggestion ;)

[@NN-vy5tk]

Any comments on what spec to choose now? The sims available shows that Outlaw will be better than Assa in all but 3 target cleave initially, and then outscale Assa eventually. So it is go outlaw or go home?

[@adamgao1350]

But now with Exsanguinate nerfed to the ground, is assa still on top?

[@Mustakas300396]

How does Assassination do after the recent changes to Exsanguinate?

[@madie2571]

I'm sure there's a reason, but why Nightstalker over Subterfuge? Subterfuge imparts a 100% damage boost to Garrote when opening from stealth. Is it simply because 50% Rupture damage outweighs the Garrote damage?

[@JY-fj2gc]

Using vanish and applying a 50% extra damage 6 combo point rupture right before exsanguinating ends up being pretty stupid burst, especially considering the cooldown of vanish lines up with the cooldown of vendetta.

[@madie2571]

That makes sense. I'll have to give it a try.

[@Nothingnesslol]

what about the 400% to 100% nerf to assassination exsanguinate. Wouldn't it equal to sub now?

[@christaborn8535]

Actually Assassin is below Sub now. I know you mentioned that two weeks ago but it's looking like Mut is gonna be middle of the pack at best at least for EN.

[@Nothingnesslol]

***** on a 1v5 boss encounter you would play outlaw so it doesn't matter.

[@williamhudon8273]

Does the nerf to exsanguinate (From 400% to 100%) still make assassination the best spec? Do you still play around bleeds and stack versatility or do you play around poisons with aganizing poisons and stack mastery? What are your thoughts?

[@КелепНайтэльф]

Now assassination is completely ruined

[@bknuke5318]

Still the best spec

[@tazuna02]

no. outlaw is right now the best. by far

[@MOJOJOJO1999]

tazuna02 lol no. You can look up any dps chart, assassination kills outlaw

[@Ridallav]

Do you still feel the same way about Sin after the Exsanguinate nerf?

[@Crackhunt42]

Whats the addon that shows a new "map" so he can see where he standing safe?

[@soseboogs]

Was surprised by the title of this video given how things can change... but great presentation and good video.

[@merkoka6991]

I've been looking everywhere and I can't seem to find anything on it. How much of each stat should I be looking to get? And more specifically, does haste and versatility have a soft cap/break point where getting any more becomes less beneficial than getting more crit?

[@filippekala5765]

I gotta say I enjoyed assassination a lot on pre patch... Until I tried sub, it feels so mobile and agile and all, will be tough going back to sin :/

[@Umur64]

sub is unplayable with no dance bar

[@filippekala5765]

+Star Sloth lol did you actually try playing it? It's inconvenient sure, but it's not unplayable and it works alright.

[@waspoza]

What's the name of nameplate addon @ 5:15 ?

[@ZeroIndex]

Has much changed since the exsanguinate nerf down to 100% instead of 400%? Is Agonizing Poison or Alacrity more on par or better with the change? Thanks in advance.

[@Gebrok]

Excellent overview, thank you for making the video. Maybe your rogue player can remember that he's recording for instructional purposes, though, and stop constantly jiggling the camera?

[@chrisl0334]

whats the add-on tracking the time left on your dots on top of the nameplates?

[@RPGLynx]

Do you guys find that Assassination is still the go to spec for raiding/mythic dungeons?

[@stormwarning233]

Plz comment on the assassination nerfs making sub viable or not, and how good or bad sin is now.

[@uldyssianuld5060]

Will tere be a Best DPS class for Legion video? Like you did with healers?

[@MrKylesgj]

can anyone tell me the addon he's using to show all his roll the bones as a list?

[@logixx87]

So with the nerf of exsanguinate to 100% (down from 400%) Is the spec still viable ?

[@gudarai]

One of the things that made me sad about the rogue is that killing spree isnt baseline for outlaw and also its not viable to talent it.

[@yarafx]

I keep seeing videos / streams with DPS meters that always show (yourself) stationary and position and then shows the actual list. What add on is this or how do you set up skada Etc to do so?

[@patrikadolfsson121]

5:21 totally opposite for me, I find the new rotation boring. Legion is put on all bleeds and increase bleed speed with one ability. Doesn't feel like asassination at all, should be renamed Torture or changed back.

[@link1000]

I've heard some sources that the go to spec is outlaw now? How accurate is this? Which artifact should we level first?

[@m4rcus411]

RNG

[@athaina6000]

How can I contact drybear for further questions ?

[@slashzrPWN]

Im leaving my Feral to reroll to a class that atleast deals more than 100k AoE DPS. Should I go for Rogue / WW monk ? If for rogue, what spec after the assa nerf? People say Outlaw is the best talent atm.

[@corneliuswonderfoot4569]

Would you still rank Assassination as #1 with the nerf to Exsanguinate?

[@LizardoLando]

What is the unit frames called you are using? I also dont know how to import your auras into my power aura, isen't it just copy paste it into the 'Import set'? :( Help plz

[@Flovust]

How are assassins now since the aug9 hotfix? exsanguinate now being 200% instead of 400% faster?

[@verdantagent]

It's twice as fast versus five times as fast. Big change.

[@jordanbooth5421]

It's 100%, down from 400% gyazo.com/bcc3426f71863110b364dd8042b2bd67

[@Flovust]

+Jordan Booth (Inzhu) yes the tooltip says 100% but they also changed how fast it ticks so its technically 200%

[@jordanbooth5421]

If that's the case then it was 500% prior to the nerf, not 400%

[@verdantagent]

it was 500% total, it made it go 400% faster than your current rate just like new exsang only goes 100% faster

[@monaflipas1624]

can you send your cooldowns/energy bar weak aura please? :)

[@Matekosslol]

After the nerf of Exsanguinate, assa still the best Spec ?

[@imBryr]

please do one of these videos for warlock would extremely helpful.

[@Zakon1604]

Great video, good to know that I had a similar idea on the specs as you guys. Is there somewhere I can find Khaheera's interface layout? Cleans up the default very nicely and doesn't feel like its overloading the screen

[@nufftajbl]

Is the go to BiS stat really versatility for outlaw and assa? Thanks.

[@Umur64]

always haste for combat, need that energy

[@nufftajbl]

You mean outlaw? xD

[@Umur64]

Aleš Poláček Never. #NotMyCombat

[@elllqslaz]

not once in this video was sublety announced correctly :(

[@YorkshireNutte]

Pronounced* ...

[@awebzz]

Is there any change to this with the recent hotfixes?

[@tomaskomprs6468]

I wondering If i want play pvp and pve as rogue, which one spec should be great? Im worried about artifact. If I choose one spec for pvp and other for pve then I dont have any weapon at high ,,lvl,,?

[@Deanthompson12]

what UI add on is being used to change the bars like this?

[@SVAdhara]

@Drybear I have a major issue for Legion. I main rogue from Vanilla to Cataclysm then played Shaman to the end of WoD. Now for Legion I have 2 choices in my guild. Rogue or Shaman. I really want to go back to rogue but I wanted to know which would be more usefull and best DPS wise. The rogue or the shaman for raid and Mytic +. tks a lot

[@peekab0001]

Great vid, thanks alot, also would you mind explaining your combat text in this video? Is it just enlarged classic blizzard combat text or is it an addon?

[@zwojack7285]

So, does anything changed after the recent nerfs?

[@Cisco6x]

Exsang just got nerfed down to 100% faster from %400. Still the best rouge spec though

[@rsachr]

Is assasination rogue still the go to rogue spec ?

[@anthonysnow3932]

Is Assassination still the top spec since the nerf to Exanguinate?

[@lankeysob]

Yeah, it's still a top spec. Just the burst got gutted. Before the nerf it was pulling WAY ahead of the next highest dps specs.

[@anthonysnow3932]

lankeysob I think you misunderstood my question. I was asking if it's the best Rogue spec, meaning the best spec for Rogues.

[@lobasakh]

what the addon for health bar like you please? Thanks

[@herenottherenorton]

What addons did you use for your ui in this video?

[@jconnor609]

Seems that outlaw is pulling ahead in single target after the recent changes would love an update

[@night_exec]

@Drybear/Khaheera How do you feel about the exsanguinate nerf to 100%? I was playing assassination and it doesn't feel as good now because of the nerf.

[@wowantonlavey]

do we get an update with the exsanguinate nerf? |

[@williamgillberg3667]

You got something that is'int from the pre-patch?_______________________________________________

[@nbf7711]

u say outlaw is a viable choice, but istn it bad to do low single-target-dps? :/ Or is the singletarget-DPS okay vs other classes?

[@刘宇玺]

Can anyone tell me what's the name of interface in the video ?

[@BigM940]

what do you use to track roll the bones

[@hvdiv17]

is assassination still viable after the exsang nerf?

[@codylegare4649]

what add on is his health bar n party

[@Raijamy]

i still have no clue why assassinations damage is mostly build around bleeds when the mastery increases the poison damage, also the artifact spells of sub and assa are poorly designed compared to other classes both in interaction with your other spells as in participation of your damage. just look at the moonkin or unholy articaft spells. im rerolling rogue because of better setup in our mythic raid but it seems to me that the rogue class design for legion is still unfinished, allmost no choice in talents except for the mobility ones (class feels more like early beta status than 3 weeks before launch thb).

[@MrGogolyo]

May i ask what addon u use for your healthbar ?

[@deatheoryy]

Can't wait to start playing again hopefully around january & rerolling my rogue to outlaw :-)

[@MrZamoj]

shoutout to Zamoj for going offline at 4:44

[@drperzik]

im curious how method feels about Surv hunters..

[@PlebCentral]

There are currently plans to try work through each class (DPS wise) before Legion.

[@cristobalalejandro1235]

what spec from dk have too many damage on the video ?

[@frostbitegaminghd..6274]

Thank you for making my spec choice for legion easier

[@Mrjonssonawesome]

Hey man, nice video. Any idea on Artifact traits, what to pick up and what golden to go for first?

[@ddreuss]

Love your Add-on's...what are you using

[@ZOMB13SLAY0RZ]

Great overview of each specs. Thanks alot!

[@dirtymightmusic5239]

i tested all speccs and i find outlaw by far the strongest. every high dps rogue i saw in mythics or EN now was Outlaw too.

[@mohameddiya397]

what about assissnation after the last 2 nerfs :(

[@ryanpetit9634]

Those are some of the best Rogue Weak Auras I've seen! Thanks so much for posting them...do you use anything to track your Defensive Cooldowns? I didn't see anything when watching the videos?

[@Waakz]

hey i was wondering after hotfixes and changes, is this ranking still valid. I've seen that outlaw is highest st now followed by sub

[@m4rcus411]

What? Where

[@martymcfly6976]

outlaw is the best spec on live. this video in invalid now

[@m4rcus411]

marty mcfly Blizzard wants us to play shitty outlaw. It's the same bullshit as in wod

[@0821Sebastian]

Yeah i really don t like spamming dices till i get 2 buffs it's annoying and so rng if you get all 6 buffs the dmg is just plain ridiculous though. I like Sub and assa better but have 2 play outlaw and what s annoying is that if they nerf combat and buff the others we'll have to start over with the damn artifacts =S

[@m4rcus411]

Seb92 yeah hate the rng, i like sub and assassination.. Assassination may not be stronger than outlaw, but i like it^^

[@big_d_addy]

Hi, nice video, what add-on do you use for have the energy bar alone, i can't take it off on shadow frame unit ? Or is it a specific add-on ?

[@allan4278]

Subtlety is current a very strong specialization when compared across all classes. Subtlety is currently on par with Assasssination in the pre-patch, and can even pull slightly ahead with the right gear. ^ From Icy Veins, written by someone in the best WoW raiding guild. www.icy-veins.com/wow/subtlety-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[@runan2955]

hi method! nice video! one question.. what dps class is best for u in legion

[@Cuoregazm]

Love the feedback! Just wanted to ask if u could share some of those weakauras you have our the set up you are using? Thanks anyways keep up!

[@patzy190588]

Will you guys still say Assass is still the best even after the exsangunite nerf?

[@koan2588]

Best race horde for rogue ?

[@tantelus12]

whats ur rogue weak auras?

[@LifeForMac]

Can u pls make one for the priest? :)

[@M0OSE]

I'm so happy with how assassination feels so I'm glad that it is performing well and you ranked it number one. Woo! Rogue main inc

[@atilaandrade4240]

What is your addons?

[@iliyass14]

LOL method... Who is even still left there? No wonder you have no clue how good sub is.

[@anwaralexander3035]

lol sub so good, great joke yo

[@bengarrison3814]

No shit my guild rogues are pulling 100k+ on all fights with sub on live but beta switching to assassin/outlaw.

[@Exilor]

lmao these insults

[@VanorOG]

Is this the same for PvP?

[@Maliett]

I refuse to play assa. Sub of bust.

[@kalibos]

You should be more flexible

[@abdullahmanzoor9897]

Assassination Rogues Still Better Than Outlaw?

[@Marclivis]

As a Rogue main since my very first foray into WoW, I am incredibly unenthusiastic and quite disappointed about rogues in Legion. Roll the Bones RNG basically kills all the fun of that spec for me, and the shiny new toys (pistol shot for some ranged cp etc) don't excite me enough. Out of the three specs on live at the moment, I have been enjoying Sub a lot, but as we're losing the class trinket even while levelling and given how mediocre sub is at everything at 110, I am disheartened at my prospects as a raiding rogue for the next two years. More than that even, I think they totally butchered any class unity between the three specs. Hell, two of the three don't even use poisons OR bleeds anymore, signature features of the rogue for over a decade. Thank you for posting this video though, I appreciate the effort and the information.

[@Marclivis]

Right but I'm a semi-hardcore progression mythic raider in a guild with a good mix of range and melee dps, single target and AoE, etc. I'm pretty much forced into playing Assassination which is still the most boring and least flexible of the specs. Alternatively I could main my mage, paladin, or shaman for Legion, but it would be the first time EVER in WoW when my rogue is not my main, and that makes me sad. :(

[@TheKesomannen]

Don't forget artifacts though

[@Umur64]

In the exact same boat, been maining rogue since classic.I hate the class now, but I also hate the idea of abandoning it

[@CptArkmz]

dudes play assasination and get hyped! what u talk about.. stop cryin for the rest specs! ASSAS IS DOPE

[@Marclivis]

Assass is super boring, easily the slowest of the specs. It's also shit on AoE and even cleave if things die quickly. Plus with the nerf to Exsang and since we won't have the rings at 110, the burst won't be nearly as impressive as it is now. I've played various iterations of Assass over the years, and while it has gotten better in some respects, I actually don't like this version as much as the maximising envenom mini-game.

[@Gewsfrahba]

the way he said subtlety triggered me so hard

[@dimirconfidant]

unfortunately due to that nerf a couple days ago... asssasination is no longer the best... rip exsanguinate.

[@HoussemLarif]

I think that it's absolutely pointless to rank specs based on numbers right now. for me I would rank assa in the bottom du to it being a boring 2 buttons spec. outlaw middlepack due to RNG and sub first since it still has some mastery potential with resources management.

[@GeorgeBurton]

my boy khaerrrrrrrraa