The BEST Method for Grinding Noponstone and AP in Xenoblade: Definitive Edition

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[@wwld9823]

damn nopons they hold all the secrets, they probably built the conduit

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

The nopon archsage is more powerful than Arvis himself

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

There is that one Nopon who is over 9000 years old (I wanna say it was exactly 9999)

[@sandwichwithnocheese5194]

Plot twist: there a 4 monados and Riki has the 4th

[@EXstormDragon]

@@sandwichwithnocheese5194 Monapon 4th monado confirmed

[@jaketozer6495]

Klaus was a Nopon before he was Zanza

[@sandwichwithnocheese5194]

I just started the game today and I don’t have time attack but thanks gamer

[@asra-5180]

You unlock it after reaching the bionis leg.

[@fable23]

PROTIP: You don't actually have to spend money on fashion gear. Save outside the portal, go in, buy the piece of gear with the look you want, then reload. Even though you won't have that piece of gear, its appearance will still be unlocked for you in the cosmetic menu.

[@danielliu6715]

Thank you, very cool

[@adachifromguiltygear3214]

No way

[@kurayamik1]

Can vouch for this! Thanks man

[@13AxelRoxas]

Wow this is going to save so much more time.

[@bluegem8582]

This also works with bought gear normally!

[@johnnooyen461]

enel: here is an efficient way to grind ap Me: haha melly push gogol off cliff!

[@elijahmcgrath5918]

Definitely the best definitive edition guides thus far. Keep up the good work

[@They_are_Arthur]

I see some people here in the comments mentioning playing Future Connected before playing the base game for the first time, and for the sake of the story, I think it would be much better to play the base game first, even if it means the level 12 art books aren't immediately unlocked. Edit: I'm solely saying this for new players. There's already a good amount of art books in the base game, so it shouldn't be a big issue in the first place for newcomers imo.

[@ericspenceri9449]

That and literally the first cutscene of FC is the party killing the final boss so yeah, maybe they shouldn’t play the epilogue before playing the main game Seriously though, who is saying to play future connected before the base game???

[@4Syorha]

Some ppl just dont really get affected by spoilers much, like me. Even im a newcomer and i started FC even tho im like near the ending of the base game.

[@G1Radiobot]

Best advice is just don't play Future Connected because it sucks.

[@Syluxproductions]

An easy way to get Noponstones earlier than grinding the level 80 challenge is fighting the lv 45 Oh Brother challenge over and over again using Dunban and Reyn. Save Heat Haze and Soaring Tempest on wave 2 and use chain attacks on stragglers and wave 3, you will clear in about a minute and get 4000 noponstones every time. Around 8 minutes per level 12 art book, very handy for maxing out something like Back Slash early to steamroll the game

[@MakenaForest]

but you wont be able to get level 12 art books before unlocking the level 80 challenge

[@Syluxproductions]

@@MakenaForest You don't need to beat the level 80 challenge to get level 12 art books, just beat Future Connected and they unlock.

[@blebbles0]

actually i've found shaggy-dog story to be faster takes a little under 30 seconds per attempt with a level 99 party and you don't have to optimize much, and you only lose 800 stone

[@archedmash9501]

I was able to do shaggy dog story and got 4800 noponstone, but I can't replicate it.

[@danielliu6715]

Using Enel's setup is still faster. If you copy his Reyn setup, you can beat the level 80 challenge in around 12-16 seconds. I got around 6400 noponstone every time.

[@eweng903]

Nice looking video. Master books are clearly a game changer, and it would possibly make some sense to beat Future Connected before doing the endgame for the main game, I would have guessed, because arts at level 12 are clearly a lot more bang for the buck than arts at level 10.

[@alfredoguzman6269]

Especially since several art books are random drops from unique monsters, so this way you don't have to deal with rng to raise art level caps.

[@Frog276]

cant wait to see some any% runs of this. the combat is hype

[@johnnooyen461]

Imagine 100% runs...

[@dantelawrence4676]

@@johnnooyen461 That'd probably take multiple DAYS.

[@kingarth0r]

​@@dantelawrence4676 wr is at 21 hours. It really just comes down to good routing.

[@braydenmullins5145]

Thanks Enel, Literally spent like 2 hours yesterday getting barely any stones.

[@liliancore_]

i love your guides man, all of em are really helpful for getting as close to 100% as i want to be also holy shit there are level 12 arts now... i was thinking about waiting a bit to play FC cuz ive already put 120 hours into this game and i'm getting burnt out but now i'm gonna be playing for much more lol. fun times

[@moberlysquad67]

Glad you found the motivation within to do a guide lol

[@johnsmith-fe4ip]

Thanks Enel. You have the BEST definitive editions guides. They have been so helpful.

[@infernape2010]

I've been waiting for someone to make a guide for noponstone grinding and you delivered thanks

[@malletsnsticks4927]

Very helpful video! For the time attack, I found it helpful to press ZR + up on the D-pad, after targeting, to make my allies focus on the monster

[@exxzane]

Bro, I was looking for copper and I just found gold. I was looking for a guide to farm AP cause i just unlocked all the final art books, but it's not only that but this method basically makes you able to raise all the SP that you lack, I think it's even more effective than the separate SP guide you made. Thank you sm

[@mistressminerva3382]

O.o just what i needed for my 5 replay of Xenoblade 1 ... now with Definitive Edition for the first time ... and yeah the XCX grind is real ... damn i hope they make it better if they make a remake / remaster ... they really learned a lot on these challenge modes for XC2 and XCDE it seams.

[@666blaziken]

I never got around to trying to beat any of the superbosses in xbx, but I know enough from having a heading from grinding in the MAIN STORY to know what enel is talking about when he says he doesn't want to mention grinding at all.

[@Mario2980]

Had a feeling that was the most efficient nopon grinding, but did not know I could've done it 5x faster, note to self!

[@SaskeUchiheClan]

Thanks Enel I've been waiting for this video!

[@pedrobautista203]

Love all your XCDE videos but I can see why you like XC2 more for the faster pace gameplay cause to me gameplay is key in a game though I haven't played XC2 but I can't wait after I beat XC1

[@WH40KHero]

Arachno Feeding Lair - Where the party comes to feed on tasty arachno AP...wait you thought it was where the Arachnos feed? Silly boy!

[@orangepotato2112]

These videos are really helpful but don't burn yourself out! Thanks again!

[@EnelXC]

luckily i finished most everything i wanted to do yesterday so i can take it easier now

[@orangepotato2112]

@@EnelXC Glad to hear and thanks again again for the quality guides and content!

[@manbearpigsereal]

Your guides for this game have been top fucking notch. Would love to see you make guides for XCX if it ever gets a port because good lord does that game need it (both the guides and the port).

[@WH40KHero]

Also lets calculate for a moment...each character has 16 arts except shulk who has 8, thats 16x6+8 times 20.000 for each art book... thats 2.8 million noponstones you need in total to level each art to lvl 12. Now divide this by the number of stones you get from the mission...lets say average of 11k for sake of simplicity and we have about 190 times you need to run that mission. Which, lets say you manage to do it in 20 seconds following your setup, + load times, which ill just assume to be 5-10 seconds plus 5-10 extra seconds for everything else thats happening... Then we are at 40 seconds, lets highball this to 45 seconds to controll for any other factors...thats 8550 seconds, or just about 2,3 hours of grinding, more or less depending on if you manage to pull the strat off every time, until you have every art book.

[@henrywithu]

This is exact what I need the most. Thanks for the guide.

[@LegendaryGlasses]

Best Xeno content channel by far. This guy is a master beast

[@Almighty_909]

You've got the best guides for Xeno content thanks as always!

[@CalaCrisp88]

Great video enel :D I love your guides

[@bylewisholland5729]

Thanks for the guide

[@PollyEdaline]

Hey, I just wanted to say thank you so much for all these guides. The Definitive Edition helped me finally get into this game and I'm really glad I did, but your guides helped me to really finish and fall in love with all the intricacies of the battle system, as well as just make me more efficient while playing. They're well laid out and contain fantastic information! I'm planning to play 2 after I'm finally done with 1, but I just wanted to take the time to say thanks for your hard work. Have a great day!

[@Phazon8058MS]

You seriously missed the opportunity to title this video "The BESTEST Method for Grinding Noponstone"!? I am disappointed.

[@shadowmario111]

Needs an obnoxious surprised expression, and a red arrow pointing to a gold treasure chest in the thumbnail

[@lolidk8141]

It’s bestest because you need the Noponstone to get fashion gear for Riki

[@Sanseru2702]

While I was farming stones I don't know what I did that once I got ~12000 stones. It has not happened again.

[@kirindas4691]

Thank you! This will be excellent to do when I reach late game!

[@DarkusFireBlaze3582]

Hey Enel, if you don't mind, do you think you can make a guide on skill links? I know some are more build specific, but it'd be an interesting watch at least.

[@verdethestarwarrior1088]

I smiled when I saw the sagest of sages

[@johnbigone]

Great video! Good thing maxing level XII Arts isn't required for the achievement. BTW, is there any chance you'd make a 100% completion guide?

[@tinotesu]

Thanks for the video for grinding the noponstones efficiently. I think i am 20+ hours late to watch this video as i just spent 20+ hours only to look for all Advance Art Books. Still, your method is still useful to me. Thank you.

[@christheo3854]

just got to say i love your channel dude. very professional, accurate and helpful. unlike that other arrogant toss pot omni who likes to spoil story events then attacks his followers for pointing it out.

[@mountchoco8174]

I beat future connected b4 restarting the base game so i had no idea that’s how u got access to level 12 arts. I just thought it was a buff like the level 2 night vision crystals in eryth

[@Nomnomlick]

I found a slightly different way to do it. It makes it impossible to finish it in 1 sword drive but you always finish in roughly 15 seconds(rarely over 16, often under 15, never below 13.5). The idea is to use Talent Boost instead of Attack Plus on Reyn's weapon. It makes it so that Dunban always has the aggro, so the back is always facing you when the ennemy is toppled. I also linked Aggro down with aura from Melia to Reyn. I used a break crystal on both Dunban and Shulk's weapon to make the topple pretty much guaranteed by the time magnum is up. When you hear Dunban say "Electric Gusbuster!" Magnum->Sword Drive->Wild Down->Bone Upper->Dive Sobat(should be dead if not, then War Swing).

[@selder_7]

Not into late game yet but the gem crafting part of a previous guide was really helpful, so going to subscribe to have them easy to find for later. In the original I beat avalanche abassy by hiding behind an ice crystal, going to try and win legit this time

[@thetoragod654]

Thanks for this. Can't wait to run around Bionis as riki and destroy everything...as soon as I get the game that is😂

[@Marcus-on6dh]

From what I’ve seen so far on my playthrough, I’m around the 80-85 level range as I’m typing this, and for Noponstone at that point with I’ve done shulk, fiora, and Dunban/reyn on “sparks fly, you die” and for a not really focused build for equip/gem, (like playing the game casually) if it’s completed at around a minute and 20 seconds, it’s typically gives either 5600 or 8400 noponstone. For the early late game that’s not bad imo.

[@RellekEarth]

Woooah I just found out you can get 9600 (typically 6400) noponstone mostly consistently on "Lost in a Dark Dream". I found out that healing has a large factor in the calculation. If you have 0 health recovered during the fight, the chance of you getting 9600 is much greater. Follow the setup in the video except replace dunban with seven. Next, you want to remove all the crit heal skill links you have and remove healing energy (if you even have it on her at all) from seven. This makes it so that you can't heal (except shulk's light heal, but the battle last 15 seconds so you'll be fine). Enter the challenge, and do exactly what is in the video and you should have a time somewhere between 10 and 20 seconds and 50% more noponstones for your effort! Lemme know if this works for you

[@brandonspikes]

Pro tip, you dont need to spin the clock, clicking on the same time you're on and changing will cycle 24 hours forward So open time, click a, and change time, bam quick way to cycle weather/next day. Also, if you really wanted to, you can turn on casual mode to grind enemies above your level, I dont know if you want to make a video about that, but I found the fastest way for raw EXP is chain attack level 95-99 enemies in casual mode

[@EnelXC]

This was for a very specific achievement that requires you to change the time so days pass. It looks weird but I had reason for doing it lol

[@0okaze]

No it doesn’t work, for one day to pass, the clock needs to pass through midnight, and same for sunrise, it needs to pass through 5 AM. I knew that since 2011 when I 100% the game, so in this run, I always set the time before midnight if I want night time, or at 4 AM to have daytime. There was no achievement for affinity coins, and finding all the Unique + level 99 gives you 255 coins which is enough to equip anything.

[@arl4693]

Can you please make a guide, or offer any suggestions on farming anything (SP, EXP, Gems, Affinity, etc.) for midgame? It honestly takes forever to get to the point where anyone can even start grinding any of the other stuff you offer guides for.

[@EnelXC]

tbh none of that stuff is super necessary until a later point in the game but many of the basic principles can still apply, just to easier versions of things, not sure I can be of more help than that since I'm already level 99 and well beyond that point in the story

[@notyours807]

Nice, thank you.

[@fitzlledo8361]

A good way to possibly use fiora in the arachno AP grinding is to equip her with gun drones. It seems like a good way to use her and the other drones while grinding.

[@jordanhaugen7363]

Personally I got more AP than I know what to do with by trying to get three sets of slotted Ledios gear from the dragon outside colony 6. I already couldn't spend AP as it was but I got 200000 AP completely incidentally

[@Chronux]

Yea I did that lvl 80 mission like 50 times, i always got 6400 stones, never more. I call some major BS on this. my avg time was about 15 seconds or so

[@justanoreo3928]

Worth mentioning, shaggy dog story is a good choice to grind nopon stones mid game

[@davidluna7]

This is where i did my ap/sp grinding except i down leveled to 80 and went to casual mode. Red enemies give double sp. Filled up super fast and turned off casual mode after

[@bigbigbig42]

For sp+ap farming you can turn CaSuAl mode on and lower your level so the enemies are red difficulty.

[@justjay9995]

Another banger man. Kind of an unrelated question, but how do you get all 3 Eryth types of armor for dunban? As an appearance option I mean

[@EnelXC]

I'm not actually sure myself, fashion gear isn't my forte lol

[@justjay9995]

@@EnelXC Oh ok lol it doesn't make sense how i have it for sum but not for others

[@archedmash9501]

This wiki page is a bit outdated because it's meant for the original game on the wii, but it might help. xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Armour_Recognition

[@heathersmith4042]

I just got it today- it's the Rafaga armor. Dropped by level 70s on the Bionis Leg

[@tkorde8988]

Watched this on stream kind of pog

[@TheBandoBandito]

Time to make a playlist.

[@cqllel5186]

Doing the exact same thing. I cannot oneshot or do a lot of damage at all. I copied errything

[@aayers485]

same

[@presion5628]

Even thoght you still do it consistently in under 30s

[@Mechtroop]

Yeah…Like others here, I’m experiencing the same. Something’s fishy. Like, it’s maybe half of what he’s showing in the videos. I’m using skill links, str gems, lvl99, lvl12 relevant arts, etc. Fastest time I’ve gotten is 31 sec.

[@cqllel5186]

Tho I couldn't oneshot, I still finished each fight with an average of like 14s. I've long since completed Xenoblade so IDGAF anymore lol

[@nips781]

DAMN!! I APPRECIATE THIS GUIDE!!! THANK!!!!!

[@Laenthor]

I can't beat the final limited challenge no matter what, the level 99 one. I'm trying to unlock all pieces of equipment as well.

[@Kurausukun]

Question--how exactly are you getting Reyn to that 895 Strength? I have the exact same weapons and armor and the exact same gems equipped, and I only get to 729. I'm also on the +100 strength skill tree. Am I missing something?

[@EnelXC]

Skill links perhaps? Probably something strength boosting there for sure

[@techsomat5757]

i tried this with the exact same setup and only did half his health so I think this has been nerfed but it is still the best method

[@Ash-cp3km]

Man you've been uploading alot recently, keep it up!

[@Reynbow11037]

Hey, I tried doing this, but I had a difficult time trying to get the arachnos to respawn. I did it once, skip traveled back to heavens window, and they didn’t come back I even tried skip traveling out of tephra cave and changing the time and then doing both of those, and then respawning was incredibly inconsistent. Any help?

[@arminarlelt7471]

Little trick if you want to have cool skins but don't want to spend money on it : if you save before buying new equipment that would give new skins, you can buy them, then reset the game. You won't have bought the equipment, but still have the new skins. Sorry for my bad english

[@SpiritOfWaterMontaru]

I'm curious, did anyone ever figure out what gets the 9600 stones?

[@EnelXC]

it's random lol

[@SpiritOfWaterMontaru]

@@EnelXC wow

[@AussieBeef54099]

There is no rush to grind that much AP for the lvl 12 arts, even for the super bosses. It's perfectly doable. Plus my experience has shown that investing in arts you tend to find the most use in and being diligent about questing and exploring will yield you more than enough AP.

[@anthonytoledo9493]

This is more for completion’s sake than practicality. Which is great since it gives an excuse to play the game more.

[@OutlawOtaku]

Are you able to carry over collected noponstones in ng+? I'm only interested in getting the level 12 arts but I'm only on playthrough 1 rn and just got to fallen arm (so about halfway through).

[@aayers485]

i have reyn at 947 strength, plus 30% at night, plus 10% with max health, and i have those three arts maxed out. I have the exact same gem layout as you and the exact same weapon and i am not doing as much damage as you. help?

[@EnelXC]

Dunban using peerless for the AoE strength buff and reyn using berserker helps a lot. Those are my guesses

[@johnnyp9126]

i know this isn’t a guide but can you make a video where you use melia, riki, and sharla against all of the super bosses please

[@broli_jmcole]

Do you think you can make a video on how to level up to 99 fast? I always seem to have trouble leveling up in the late game

[@biggaming64]

I cant find any information on the final time attack battle and I'm curious what the challenge is. Is there a guide somewhere online that details what the challenge is?

[@YOM2_UB]

It's three waves, the first wave you fight lv. 97 Cellar Bagworm, lv. 98 Shimmering Forte, and lv. 99 Conflagrant Raxeal. Second wave has you fight lv. 105 Immovable Gonzales and lv. 105 Territorial Rotbart. Wave three has you fight lv. 114 Blizzard Belgazas and lv. 120 Avalanch Abaasy. I'm not sure how exactly the monsters compare to their main game counterparts, but I can say that I'm able to beat the challange in 6 minutes and no revivals while fighting the real Blizzard Belgazas with the same party takes me triple the time and many revivals... so I'd say the superbosses at least are significantly easier. Abaasy also lacks its signature instant death spike.

[@sabata2]

Regarding your set up on Shulk and Dunban to start the topple on Nopon Stone grinding, why not swap Shulk for Melia with only Spear Break and Starlight Kick?

[@Yukeena]

So before I go to the Mechonis Core, I want to farm a few more levels and I read that a good place to do that (i'm lvl 67 atm) is by going back into Bionis interior. The only problem is, that I can't find out how to get back into the 2nd lung. Right now I can only get back into the terminal trachea that leads into 3rd lung and then the upper level to exit the interior. How do I get back into the 2nd lung so that I can farm?

[@matthewjones5951]

what is your setup on reyn? I have berserker and sword drive at lvl 12 and its only doing ~50k damage

[@weezerofficial1738]

More Xc1 wow

[@Dracomasterthefirst]

When do the colony 6 items unlock for purchase. I don't see them in the store

[@StigmaLotus]

Stormy Belagon is real good for chessing party affinity. Just make sure the character you're playing as runs Daze Resist 100%.

[@QwixLF]

*Sleep or Debuff resist

[@noahneff1301]

Is there any way to check how many enemies you have already killed? it just seems like I've killed 5k already idk

[@EnelXC]

sadly no. it's a grind.

[@noahneff1301]

rip, I guess I'll just have to keep repeating that cycle over and over again until I get it

[@StartouchArts]

Would it be possible to have a guide that's a just a quick run-down through all the Restricted Time Attack challenges? Even as someone who's fairly experienced with the game, I'm struggling to get S Rank just with early ones like The Walls have Eyes.

[@jekessalee4047]

Thank you I have a quick question I want to use this method to wrap up my AP grinding so I can max everything out before I head off to the final battle for the first time how do I make sure the enemy's keep responding in that area after I wipe them out

[@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg]

So enel I gotta ask when did you get your copy of Definitive Edition? because I saw one of your videos like two days after release and you were already in postgame.

[@zaxtonhong3958]

2 days is 48 hours The speedrun for this game is about 5-6 hours The math checks out Kappa

[@Senator_Squires]

I can never KO the Mammuth in one Sword Drive hit. I have Back Atk VI, Topple Up VI, Max Strength Gems, am at level 99, have Sword Drive, Magnum Charge and Berserker all at level 12, and all the affinity links possible to boost Reyn's Strength.

[@psi_feelingokay9784]

Try putting Shulks "Element of Suprise" Skill Link on Ryen, and skill links that boost Strength. That's what helped me.

[@mellewindig4722]

Hey i have a request and its a little bit different cause this is more early/midgame but i whould like to know how to easely get affinity between partymembers cause i use everyone cyceling in and out and beacuse i feel like my affinity is to low and i can barely use chainattacks. It whould be really helpful if you were to make a guide about this thx

[@EnelXC]

I have an affinity guide but it's later game focused

[@sanabashir8763]

1. After you beat Main Boss go to the land of challenge and select “sparks fly you die” beat the two waves and you will get 5600 Noponstones Per Battle

[@presion5628]

Who's main boss

[@Lukeypukey85]

Hey. Thanks for the video, expanded on a lot for me. You said about killing 5000 enemies for life time supply of ap, what’s that about please?

[@EduuAce]

I got twice the noponstone amount (12800) at the Lv 80 Stage but idk how that happened. Is there a bonus or something?

[@Malysitos]

Hallelujah! No more black liver bean grinding!

[@UsefulLeaf]

For the happy new year achievement so my understanding is I have to have the time on 23 which is night then wait till it reaches 0:00 midnight then change to 4 so that I see it changed to sunrise like that right?

[@Drewsefer89]

Dunban actually using a topple art is the biggest mystery of all.

[@pedror.pinheiro2940]

When do the colony 6 items become available?

[@archedmash9501]

The final area. You will see the time attack portal

[@bayardkyyako7427]

I don't think Back Attack gems work on reyn, it's a bit hard to test considering he is meant to gather aggro, but since he doesn't have moves that deal extra damage from behind I don't think it works. I'm going to try testing with a gem and some aggro down stuff and see if I can have a controlled experiment with some attack stability as well, I'll edit this comment if it works or not. Edit: From my testing on Ghostly Mahatos, a level 97 Reyn with 945 strength and 1847 auto attack, stabilized with attack stability V and back attack up V can do 13k damage with an Atomic Driver as his weapon and around 9200 on the other sides, admitidly I used casual mode so that way I would be able to easily see the damage difference and less risk of death or annoyance. The damage was hard to see if it was Reyn because I had Dunban and Seven in to draw most of the aggro so it's entirely possible it doesn't work, but from my small time testing I saw a good difference. This gem needs that information in the description or documented somewhere because it's not entirely obvious that it can work that way.

[@hamburbers]

Somebody is running around in Discord under random names claiming to be a "famous" youtuber named "Enel."

[@Scerttle]

KZbin asked me for feedback while watching this video. “Excellent”, of course.

[@solonepeon5805]

The time attack challenge nopon rewards could be glitch & not working good. The Lv80 lost in dark dream highest stones I got is 12800 so definitely it could be a glitch of codes that didn't get coded in correctly when they made the game?

[@RyuNoZero]

when I saw your Shulk Guide for the Definitive Edition, I wanted to ask you if you teamed up with Zanza to get all the Arts to lvl12 or what!? xD

[@smith380]

damn how are you so good at this its been out for 10 days of this comment

[@Arritay]

Did you do Future Connected before, during or after the main story. Just wondering bc i have played through the game multiple times already and just wondered if I should do FC first since I wouldn't be spoiling myself and it sounds like its only a boon.

[@presion5628]

If you've finished the game then I don't see why not

[@dangangalaxy9759]

How did you get his attack stat so high? I have the same weapon and gems as you on Reyn but mine is a few hundred short?

[@EvilReuniclusWalkthroughs]

This tripped me up yesterday. Turns out I was looking at his stats in the daytime haha. It actually applies the strength up at night skills in the menus at nighttime.

[@haloknowitall]

So i’m near the end in a tower I wont name and i’d assume I’m close to the end, I think. Should I play future connected now or should I beat the game first? I want the books and the outfit i’ve seen on other people.