The Best & Most Affordable Citizen Dive Watches for Small Wrists: Promaster EO2020-08E & NY0040-09EE

[@jdejes]

This watch might not work for some but the size is perfect for me. I have a slim 6.2” wrist so can’t wear the regular one. Love the fact that Citizen decided to keep all features from the bigger one on this. It has become my new daily watch and really love how it wears and looks.

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

That’s fantastic. Enjoy your new timepiece!

[@TheGrenadier97]

The NY0040 is an absolute icon and i intend to get one soon. Perhaps the new 37mm design isn't as great, but in my opinion it's a tempting watch anyway from a more practical point of view. The good thing is that Citizen offer options for everyone, despite the difference in movements.

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Well said. My love goes to the 0040. However I think the smaller Promaster 37mm also has a lot to offer.

[@jaysterling26]

The supplied metal strap is crap.However, Long Island Watch now have 2 specific bracelets for it ( 'o' &'j') .I don't have them, nor do I get comission (sadly).There may be other suppliers as well.

[@TheGrenadier97]

@@jaysterling26 true. I'll buy it in the original rubber strap anyway. Actually from what i've seen it looks great on anything that isn't a bracelet - in my opinion at least.

[@Okido24]

It’s a great watch. I like this as a beater. Plus I got really nice memories with this watch. Learning how to dive.

[@TheGrenadier97]

As for the intended public, there's nothing in this new 37mm model as a whole that seems exclusively for ladies. The black and blue actually look far from feminine in my opinion. Some watches are definitely more masculine or feminine than others, but sometimes what truly defines the public is just a variant in color and finish - exactly what happens with the pink-gold-gray. I think that brands should stop associating size with sex, because there's more design elements into play than just that.

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

I agree with what you are stating. Same thing I saw in the commercials of the Tudor Pelagos 39. I think people should just buy what they like and feel comfortable with.

[@bushpig6837]

I agree. I'm glad Citizen make this watch in a 37mm case for men who feel that is the right size for them, (and historically 37mm is a big watch) and also offer colours and finishes that are more feminine for women who feel this watch echoes their persona.

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@G-rig6969The fugu he is holding up is actually 41mm

[@sheepdog-kp9hb]

It's amazing how the ny0040s vary in size from 40mm to 42mm. It's a dang 41mm lol

[@michaeldemarillac9992]

For my money the citizen bn0195 28e Promaster Professional Diver is perfect, it is ISO-compliant so it is a real divers watch, the bezel is reliable, i.e. time accurate and unlikely to shift during the dive, has proper grip unlike the Seiko SKX007 dive watch, and like Seiko, the lumen lasts long enough. When I was in the Navy I would charge the lumen by putting a torch against it for 5 minutes and it would last an entire night dive using oxygen rebreathing equipment which gives more endurance, long enough for me to check my progress and plant explosive on targets and the Citizen, in my opinion, would behave in the same as Seiko but even better, that is why it is a real dive watch. The NY040 version looks like the older version of the BN0195 28E. The BN0195 28E has a 42mm face, which is still good on a small wrist.

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Thanks for sharing your insights!

[@renatomorais8136]

I had the bigger ecodrive version and I could never connect with that one, mostly because of the date at 4 like you pointed out. It drove me crazy every time I looked at it. The automatic is just beautiful and probably the last proper Japanese tool watch. I especially liked the deep black glossy dial, at some angles is like it's a deep back pool. Ended up selling it too because of the noisy rotor but especially because I hated to set the day and date every time. There used to exist a quartz version of the ny0040 but with a crown at 3 that I only saw in small numbers over at Italian sellers. As usual I thought too much about it and when I decided to get one they were all gone.

[@jamesbogle]

I appreciate you posting early on into the launch (UK will not get this till Autumn) and sharing initial thoughts as well as this video. I have bought one (EO2021) and I love it! Yes, perhaps a 3 o’clock date position could improve it but it makes sense having it lined up with the crown. I think the sizing is fantastic for anyone with wrists

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Thanks for your feedback! I am glad you like this handsome watch.

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@GadgetsforGentlemenJust got the blue dial NY0040 for Christmas 2023

[@kungula]

Although I just ordered a Longines Spirit with 37 mm, I am actually a big fan of Citizen watches. But these watches have to be radio controlled, have a perpetual calender and be solar driven. My 6 year old Citizen has all these features and I never have to worry about accuracy as it is less than 1 second in a year. I believe that if you buy an automatic watch you have to accept this disadvantage as even a Grand Seiko with a spring drive movement has to be adjusted after 1 month already.

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Great points. Let me know how you like the Longines 😉

[@bushpig6837]

What Citizen watch do you have that is accurate to one second per year?

[@kungula]

@@bushpig6837 any radio controlled Citizen will always be accurate, I have the Promaster CB 0021-57 E and the AT 8130 -56 E which I bought in 2016 and 2020.

[@soulbronumberone]

The citizen dive watch you are looking for is the 38mm NY2300.

[@dimatha7]

the newer versions have sapphire crystal, there's a blue one absolutely stunning!

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

The new NY0040 ?

[@dimatha7]

@@GadgetsforGentlemen NY0141-10L

[@gyozafairy1070]

​@dimatha7 thanks for the heads up

[@bushpig6837]

NY0141-10L is 44mm

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@bushpig6837Real shame as the 41mm of the last generation Fugu suited more to a wider array of wrist sizes

[@mikewazowski6161]

The Watch of the Marina Militare ! ♥

[@david.9633]

Thank you for the great video

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@mariangroeneveld7401]

Dank voor je review! Zo’n vergelijk zocht ik. Als vrouw prefereer ik de kleinere citizen ;)

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Graag gedaan. Succes met de keuze maken!

[@asmeetsingh5949]

Honestly just buy the 44mm ecodrive diver instead of this 37mm diver and you will be happy. That 44mm fits like a 41mm on the wrist and i now understand why citizen did not come out with a 40mm size because that 44mm size works absolutely fine for almost all male wrist sizes small or large. I would suggest you get one for a review and try it out yourself. just try the 44mm.

[@kj3774]

Whats your thoughts on the NY0141-10L?

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

I like the design the specs and the design. A tat too large for me. I prefer the 40mm sizing like Squale for example.

[@Gunthusiest]

I'm a man with 7" wrist, I just don't like massive watches. That's my attraction to the smaller one. I might buy one🤷‍♂️

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Can't go wrong with this one ;)

[@gyozafairy1070]

Same. 7.8 wrist here. Massive watches look like clown watch, no matter how expensive they are.

[@OscarOSullivan]

The NY0040 is great on a wide range of wrists

[@jak3All3n]

excited about the 37mm diver, do you remember if the second hand lined up with the minute markers?

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

I don’t recall. Maybe you can see it in the video. Enjoy your new watch!

[@zulyhaskins2097]

El ny0040 fue diseñado y hecho para buseo profesional y fue usado como tal por los busos de la marina italiana en el año 1997 y un cristal de zafiro no le hubiera servido para dicha elección por qué los probaron asta 500 m con éxito esa es la esencia del ny0040 es un buso profesional para 200 metros con zafiro está el fugu que es una reedición actualizada del ny0040 muchos saludos muy entretenido tu vídeo y comparación 👍

[@OscarOSullivan]

I just got the blue dialled NY0040 for Christmas

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

@OscarOSullivan enjoy it!

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@GadgetsforGentlemen Will do

[@ragnarone5409]

The new NY0120 is to chunky for my wrist and I also hope for an 39/40 mm Citizen dive watch.

[@ProviantoWibowo]

is there a midsize version for the Citizen NY0040? just like Seiko SKX013, SKX007 midsize version or Citizen EO2020, BN0150 midsize version

[@panosvrionis8548]

No😢 I wanted one for my self. Skx0013 was to expensive...so i bought a ny0040.which is little smaller on the wrist from 007skx

[@edu4818]

more comparisons like this please

[@rohanch07]

A 40mm case with 20mm lugs will be perfect for this style. I don't know why Citizen designers are addicted to smelling glue.

[@sheepdog-kp9hb]

They obviously cant improve the ny0040s the look i mean, so they'll contiue to fail. I mean 37mm? Girlie watch. Good review

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Thank you!

[@suba7320]

This would be the perfect watch if it had the date window at 3 o'clock. it looks too asymmetrical at 4 o'clock. I can't deal with it.

[@roybrolsbeak]

16mm bandwith, such a shame. if it was 18 it wouldve looked less tiny

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Fair point!

[@cristianomarvallejomoncayo7175]

This watch is unisex? Only for ladys?

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

I would say unisex. It is marketed for women though.

[@Yoko.Kurama]

Why were you so afraid to wear the 37mm?

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

It just looked a bit too small to me.

[@giusepperocchi2979]

"The bezel NEEDS to make a nice sound"... first time I hear something like that.

[@GadgetsforGentlemen]

Well this is very subjective. But I love a great sounding bezel 😂

[@Ellahjackie]

​@@GadgetsforGentlemen i'll second that!

[@edu4818]

exellent

[@Damon51]

Lo avete rimpicciolito non va bene

[@TonyMontanaDS]

Don't know why they bother making a 37mm version. Even for women, the larger version looks much better.

[@OscarOSullivan]

Some people prefer a 36 or 37mm diver

[@Jamie-Jameson]

I somewhat disagree, the 44mm look can look clownish on a small wrist (5.75" in my case). I bought the 44mm and I looked like a child wearing her dad's watch. I bought this one in blue and it fits way better. However, in my opinion, a 39mm could've been the sweet spot (this one is technically 36.5mm).

[@turbolenza35]

worst watch ever.

[@OscarOSullivan]

Which is