The BEST New Character - Diver - Brotato: Abyssal Terrors

[@SoulSpite]

I struggled for ages with Diver until I watched this, Thanks a bunch for yet another informative and fun video.

[@theobarker2862]

Crazy how much this got changed during the time of the beta! The price reduction for harpoon gun and the increased crit damage for precise weapons were not implemented in the beginning, but you would get a bunch of free melee damage. I won my run with 6 Cacti club, which was loads of fun

[@MrKumbancha]

same, 6 cacti clubs plus sausage and other things and i barely had to do anything

[@frogmanxbl7129]

Yea I get the feeling that the devs originally intended the harpoon gun/precise weapon playstyle and that cacti club was perhaps an oversight (or they didn’t realize HOW strong it’d be). Glad they changed it without inadvertently making the character bad, because honestly playing him in his original form without cacti club didn’t feel very good

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Yeah, this character had the most significant rework! I think the devs really wanted you to actually use harpoon guns for him, which the old style didn't really encourage. That said I think smg or shotgun probably fills the harpoon gun debuff role better in this implementation, so they may need to tweak again :P

[@gamescape7758]

​@Cephalopocalypse wouldn't slingshot be good too? Or is the bouncing too random?

[@1TieDye1]

@@gamescape7758 slingshot would probably be okay but yeah, the random bounces would make it worse than smg

[@joshuacollinge1633]

2 slingshots and 4 thiefs daggers go crazy with this character. Especially if you stack baby with a beard and piercing

[@raketenronnyy]

Great commentary, I enjoyed the video a lot! :)

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Thanks very much!

[@AhRisla]

I chuckle every time I see a fireball in your shops

[@Cephalopocalypse]

same

[@renevos5822]

I think XP gain is useful up to a point. For example, buying 5 Scars (+20% XP, -8 range) at level 11 gets you at some point to level 17 instead of 15, but effectively costs 40 range and 5 items' worth of money for 2 levels. Later, it could take you from level 20 to 24. This might be good for endless runs, but in shorter runs, focusing on economy might bring more benefits. I think XP gain is decent up to 100%, but after that, other items are more valuable.

[@1TieDye1]

I think it also depends on what else you have going on. high luck for better levels, the creature item for bonus 35% level up stats, and having bonus enemies or good harvesting all make that bonus xp go much farther

[@porson2177]

I just sold the harpoon for an smg and rolled into piercing so everything was debuffed. Better than the harpoon imo

[@roberthiltz2741]

Wow those shops were quite kind to you, it seems like piercing, baby and ricochet are the mvps of this build

[@ZelosDomingo]

Taking weird ghost on final wave was a gigachad move. 😸

[@markcromer4069]

The harpoon gun has a minimum range, it can't target enemies close to you.

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Good point!

[@alanhong99]

Bone dice mathematically equals to exchange 1 hp for 5% damage. So, if buying the injection is worthy, then it is supposed to be good for the dice. Maybe gathering enough stats can make it more clear about whether it's worhy or not.

[@Cephalopocalypse]

Yeah - the stats are better than injection (a lot better if you get it early), but the issue I have with it is you pay upfront for value you don't get until much later, at a rate that's not that much better than a lot of items that give you their value right away, and with the chance of getting unlucky and getting nothing for several waves.

[@alanhong99]

@@Cephalopocalypse that is true. Maybe it's more like a "win more" item rather than a "win now" item.

[@richshirk4772]

Slingshot seems like it would be the play for this tater, as opposed to holding onto the Harpoon.

[@prismapsychosis8545]

yoooo patrick unlocked

[@dustinkeier9176]

Dex had an amazing run using Cacti club. Seems like the perfect weapon for diver. Sends ranged attacks and is a melee weapon... would love to see your take on it!

[@Cephalopocalypse]

That was probably with the old version of the character! cacti club isn't precise, so it's a fine choice but not broken like it used to be.

[@BrieDonadieu]

One-armed, Cyborg, Engineer. also, Lucky, Arms Dealer, Baby. Also Triple Technomage for all the turrets and elemental damage, but none of the levels. If any of these strike your fancy that is.

[@jacobdhall]

When I did my run with it, I said "what would Ceph pick? Thief dagger? Thief dagger" This was loads of fun. I cannot wait for the dlc to drop

[@JandarLefey]

Retro did Cacti Club

[@Cephalopocalypse]

always thief dagger

[@letopizdetz]

Didn't rng into a baby, so i picked a lvl 1 smg.... steamrolled. By wave 30 the 2dmg smg (1+1 from nail) was dealing more damage than the daggers. Died to a random lag spike into multiple projectiles. Felt pretty much invulnerable from wave 18.

[@NIXUSfps]

Crazy endless run soon?

[@foxfire7]

if you have some piercing and see a cactus club, you should take it, its just silly how absurd it is

[@15xgg80]

Wish you did endless run to see how long you could last. I lasted to wave 38 today with a different character and it was intense. How long was your longest endless run ?

[@joshhobbs4862]

🔥🔥🔥

[@Fuzzybunny10]

Yessssssssss

[@kjm11449]

Will the dlc come out on console in October too?

[@mrcrue13]

Does the Crystal bonus just reset after getting hit or do you lose it for the rest of the round?

[@jgray2718]

17:41 You can do this very easily. Just buy an SMG instead of one of the harpoon guns.

[@Kaibatmnt]

Would the incendiary turret be able to proc the passive of the diver?

[@Cephalopocalypse]

It shouldn't! As far as I know only things that scale with ranged damage will work (so not engineering constructs, or even ranged weapons like the shuriken that scale off of melee damage)

[@lycon7000]

Why wouldnt the shuriken proc the buff? it says ranged damage, the shuriken is ranged dmg no?

[@Cephalopocalypse]

shuriken is a ranged weapon, but it scales off of melee damage - the diver buff requires items that scale off of ranged damage to proc