The Best New Co-op Multiplayer Games To Play With Friends In 2024

[@GamerZakh]

More details for all games in the description, platforms, crossplay, etc. Check out Super Battle Polycars on Steam: bit.ly/SBP_Zakh [ad] Thanks to Yooper Game Studios for sponsoring. ALSO, it turns out people have 2 very different definitions of what a 'co-op game' is and you don't know the other half of people even exist! Here's what I've found after investigating... These are the 2 definitions people have: 1. A singleplayer experience that can be shared (Baldur's Gate 3, Stardew Valley, Satisfactory) 2. A multiplayer experience that can often be done alone if at all (Helldivers 2, Lethal Company, Trine) A poll even showed that 60% of people consider Baldur's Gate 3 a 'co-op game' and expect to find games like that in lists like these while 40% do NOT! Anyway, if you're confused or upset at the curation of games in this video, this is why, because like you I didn't know there was this split of perspectives on what a 'co-op game' is and I'll have to think of a solution on how to organise co-op games in the future. Looking for specifically Couch Co-op games? Watch This: kzbin.info/www/bejne/paOknGmhfqirsKc

[@dogs-game-too]

I was about to comment complaining about a lack of release dates, so thank you lol

[@GamerZakh]

@@dogs-game-too In most cases, including release dates doesn't mean much anyway. Games get delayed, sometimes even brought forward, and vague '2024' targets don't really help. Unless a game has actually released, the release date can always change. Similarly with things like crossplatform, most just haven't confirmed it one way or another often because for full crossplatform with Playstation they have to work out deals with Sony.

[@Tom-zw9jr]

I recommend Max Payne 3 multiplayer, its so fun and still played on PC

[@zanmaru139]

Should be noted the Helldivers 2 think isn't totally resolved. A lot of countries are still locked out of the game that didn't used to be.

[@DeepDreamLullaby]

Still can't add pc players as friends

[@JohnMaitland-uh2zg]

They aren't missing out on anything

[@nothingbutlove2259]

This is horrible. They need to make better multiplayer games. How about MK Shaolin monks 4 players open world ❤

[@GamerZakh]

This list includes the top rated game on Steam for 2023 and likely the most loved co-op game of 2024. If this is horrible then there has never been a time where you would've been happy with what's available.

[@thunderlens6189]

Bro is spitting facts here istg i would fuck with that

[@Tikki-rikki]

@@GamerZakh nah these games are definitely horrible i didn’t see one good one 😅

[@GamerZakh]

@@Tikki-rikki If you don't like a single one then you just don't like the genre. Literally the highest rated game of 2023 and biggest game of 2024 in the list.

[@babu3574]

Tears of metal seems fun ash cant lie ​@@Tikki-rikki

[@NusoYT]

it is great that this one shows a lot of unknown games other videos just put the most popular games that everybody knows

[@GamerZakh]

I do always try my best to keep covering new games, with how many lists I can make now I must have talked about quite a few hundred at this point. I'm glad you're enjoying them

[@nguyen275]

I honestly dont consider pvp games (Like Dead By Daylight clones) to be coop games. I want a pure coop game as in just you and one or more buddies going through coop campaign or taking on roguelite runs together (like Gunfire Reborn).

[@Madkingstoe]

Boomerang-Fu has been one of the best couch co-op games I've played in years. My family has spent hundreds of hours playing it and we always have a blast. I'm just mentioning it because a DLC for the game just got released this month, so if you're looking for a fun co-op game to play that would really be my recommendation. I know it's a bit more of a party game, but after watching some of the games on this list I think it would still count amongst them.

[@GamerZakh]

Yeah there'd be a lot of interest overlap for co-op players and party games, so still a good recommendation!

[@ih8people]

I second this, it's a really good couch multiplayer game if you just want to have some lighthearted fun with your friends or partner

[@spidahjan]

rita's rewind looks freaking dope

[@benarvinarizala9124]

For Freedom! For Liberty! For Manage Democracy!

[@ludewich]

Just wanted to write the same 🙂

[@wakamoto361]

dead ahh game devs went downhill at Mach 10

[@matthewwhittington7722]

Great video! These are always a highlight for my gaming nerdiness! Even if I’m not interested in a single game, rarely the case, I love these. Thank you and keep up the great work!

[@GamerZakh]

Thanks! Yeah a lot of people just watch them to be in the know and they're not actually looking for a game to play.

[@Theorak]

Since you have been adding Early Access titles that are already available: I like to mention Roboquest, it's a really good co-op rogue-lite, great gunplay and style, has funky weapons and a good progression. Gets big updates working up to the release still.

[@GamerZakh]

I do include early access games for up to 3-4 years depending, but have to note that Roboquest fully released in 2023, so it's no longer a new game coming in 2024. Good game though.

[@Shuky420]

Thank you man I watch every day for new games and never find so many nice games 😂

[@GamerZakh]

Glad you found some new ones! I do spend a lot of time searching and curating haha

[@Shuky420]

@@GamerZakh yeah I’m glad too, can I ask where you look I look on KZbin and steam and other sites 👀but it’s always the same games lol

[@GamerZakh]

@@Shuky420 I look everywhere. KZbin channels, Reddit, I follow gaming outlets on social media, searching Steam. I record games every time I see a new one into a giant document throughout the year. But it's not just about finding new games, it's filtering the ones that have potential or could be good. It's like for Simulation games, I listed 118 games in my megalist. Seems like a lot but just on Steam, there's about 1200 upcoming simulation games. Based on my 10 years making these lists, I pick out the top 10% to share with people.

[@Shuky420]

@@GamerZakh damn man sounds like a lot of work thanks for doing all that for us. 10 years is a lot of time keep up the work 💪 I’m gonna look further for games now 👀😂

[@GamerZakh]

@@Shuky420 Haha well if I do a good job these are my best performing videos, so it's worth it for me to keep trying to get better. I've covered a lot for 2024 particularly, more than any other year. I think I've made 35 genre lists for 2024 so far? Hope you find more new games!

[@RiZeLegiT]

i’m so glad to see a list of games i haven’t heard of

[@devinneese1491]

This videos title is very misleading. Im 10 minutes into the video and you have listed two titles without release dates and one still in early access?! Title says in 2024. Are you psychic? While i appreciate the effort you put into these videos you shouldnt have to rely on games that arent even out and stuffing the video full of ads to pad the watchtime.

[@GamerZakh]

Early access means you can play it right? I don't think you want to get into the etymology of 'released' and the definition of that word haha. To be clear, 18 games out of 20 have set 2024 release windows or have released. And I'm not psychic, I'm experienced. Also I don't need to pad the watchtime, how would putting in unrelated games help that anyway? People just tune out. I predict things by analysing. Someone got really upset at me because I listed Dragon's Dogma 2, Rise of the Ronin, Dragon Age, and Black Myth Wukong for 2024 all before they had release dates. They also said the video was misleading and clickbait, that I was padding the video, etc just like you feel. Then all those games got 2024 release dates. I've done this every year for 10 years. See the problem with video game release dates is 2 fold: 1. Many games only get a release date as short as 2 months before release 2. Even if games have a specific release date, they can and are often delayed into the next year So how do you make any forward-looking list videos with any kind of certainty? Really it's impossible, but myself after making these videos for 10 years I have a stronger sense of what is more likely to become playable and what isn't. I'm not 100% correct of course, as you say I'm not psychic and I don't have a crystal ball, but I'm more experienced than most. The choice is: A) List only games with release dates and still be wrong because of delays, surprise releases, and cancellations B) List games with release dates and those without but have likely odds of releasing and still be wrong but be more informational and often more correct I opt for B and after 10 years, my predictions are more right than wrong anyway. Not to mention, I'm only predicting 2/20 games here. The other 18 have either released in some form or I'm taking their word for a 2024 release.

[@GamerZakh]

Also to note, for example with Outward 2, there's no fixed release date but they have already given out demo builds to some people and media, and the developer is considering early access. It could have a 2025-onwards release date but it could enter early access or just release that demo to everyone in 2024, which does count as becoming playable. These are things to consider when I make these lists. It also gave me an opportunity to talk about the first game's definitive edition release that was not too long ago, just as a bonus for something that can be played right now.

[@Lex_Koncord]

Disappointed that Kill the Justice League is on any list with "best" in the title. Except "Best games that ruin the name of the studio behind them"

[@GamerZakh]

I mean it's got 71% positive on Steam, so there are people who enjoy it. Also 'best' doesn't always mean 'good', it means it's part of the best we got this year. There's a lot of hate for the game for various reasons, but personally I don't get all that emotional about games. If a game is something I don't like, I don't buy it and move on. It's not like any game is a secret like in the 80s and 90s where the box art was all clickbait haha, just watch a gameplay video or review and decide if you like it. I didn't buy Kill the Justice League but for the people who like it, that's fine too.

[@ShowTmRS]

I see Outward i click like !

[@KRISCHENATH]

Some people might enjoy immersing in beautiful graphic alone as single played or online with strangers. But my best gaming experience are in local co-op with friends and family. Nothing beats that. Bottom line is people need to socialize with people around them more. Especially when phone & social media occupied most time of their life.

[@BS-id7rq]

100% recommend Cult of the Lamb.

[@canis39]

Thanks for another great video Zakh! I was a strictly single-player guy for a long time, but I've been playing a decent amount of co-op over the past couple years, so this is really interesting to me.

[@ayemraps]

Helldivers 2 bug maps are like the wreck it ralph game cy-bugs

[@camerongaines3670]

Are you doing you part? Starship Troopers

[@shahoul1]

Thank you for the list videos, really appreciate them.

[@andresprieto6554]

Pretty good list. Many i wasnt aware of and look very interesting

[@GamerZakh]

@@andresprieto6554 Thanks! I'm glad you found some new ones

[@PinWriter]

Super Battle Polycars arena reminds me of Death Rally while the cars reminds me of Interstate 82 hahaha.

[@Ryvalry]

Towerborne is giving adventure quest vibes

[@niknak2150]

Oooo outward 2!

[@moonbiter3230]

Thank you for the varied list! I'll definitely be trying some out for fun, different art styles.

[@Rift2123]

So your MOBAs coop poll threw me for a loop after reading through the back and forths would love to see further discussion on this topic

[@GamerZakh]

Yeah it's real complicated. After the 2 polls though I have a clear idea moving forward with co-op as a genre. The main split is the singleplayer first/multiplayer first perspectives which does allow me to split the games with some logic.

[@Rift2123]

@@GamerZakh oh actually that makes a kinda sense in regards to single player versus multiplayer first perspective interesting

[@NegativeROG]

Sworn is at the top of my list, but some others I've either grabbed the demos already or have wish-listed. Good to see my choices are sound

[@dip2067]

Btw Cult of the Lamb can be played online co-op on Steam)

[@Niscimble]

Best list video!

[@GamerZakh]

I know you've been asking for co-op for a while now aha

[@888isdonii]

I feel like they need to add more fun multiplayer games not everyone cares about Fortnite , Sports & Car games. Where are the Multiplayer games at like fr local play is becoming more and more rare like they don’t want it around anymore or something back then I felt like a lot of games naturally came with local play options what a time.

[@GamerZakh]

There's lots of local play, even in this list. Cult of the Lamb is local co-op exclusively and many have confirmed split screen. Personally in the last few years I've played Cuphead, Overcooked, Moving Out, Unravel, Little Big Planet, and Untitled Goose Game extensively with my wife all in local co-op. There's also It Takes Two, A Way Out, LEGO games, and many more.

[@fireon-se7mn]

Thank you lots

[@CyberCrusader27]

Tears of Metal looks very DEI for "Celtic" inspired setting.

[@GamerZakh]

Unfortunately because of bad actors, i have to ask you to specify exactly what you mean by DEI. As in say what you're referring to and what you think about it without shortcut terms. I'm sure you're reasonable, but because of who I am, that term is used as a racist dogwhistle by some people and the efficacy of a racial dogwhistle is not in that nobody knows who you’re clearly talking about, it’s the plausible deniability. I don't allow the plausible deniability on this channel anymore because of those people, so please define it or I have to ban.

[@CyberCrusader27]

@@GamerZakh I'm referring to Sub-Saharan phenotypes in a game based in a historical Scottish setting. Its deliberate and unnecessary infusion of peoples for the sake of box checking. The same could be said for a game that were based in ancient Zulu lore with Caucasian and Asianic phenotypes cast as "Zulu" warriors. In a historical settings peoples of distant lands without a story to explain their existence in the region is inaccurate and just plain lazy writing. It would be the same with putting a car in the setting without explanation. So no, it not about ill will toward any people group just the miss use of a setting and laziness to fit a check box. When done for the sake of story it can be very compelling, the 13th Warrior movie is a prime example.

[@GamerZakh]

@@CyberCrusader27 Thanks for clarifying! You wouldn't believe the kind of responses I get when I ask people to clarify.

[@CyberCrusader27]

@@GamerZakh No problem. I appreciate you reaching out. Unfortunately, the Internet can be a very caustic place at times.

[@marcopolen4844]

Theres some video in your advertisement

[@GamerZakh]

This is how many ads it takes to produce these videos and cover costs. It's a self solving problem though, you only see ads if you watch the video. If you enjoy the video so much you keep watching, you get the ads. If the video isn't good enough you stop watching and don't see the ads. This way, my video must be good enough to make money and I make better and better videos, and the better I make them the more money I make. It's a good system.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Great review.

[@ludewich]

Helldivers 2 is my top favorite game of all times. Never have I seen a game which manages to fit my taste so perfectly! That said, Deep Rock Galactic received a large update a couple of days ago and might deserve mention here as well. It is an excellent coop game and I played it more than 500h! I have to write a discalimer: but my friends really did not like the fact that DRG has been designed to be played with randoms, and with randoms only. Your progression will be slowed linearly for each friend you play (i.e. 4 friends, your progression goes down to about 25%).

[@GamerZakh]

Deep Rock Galactic is awesome, it's just I can't be mentioning every old game that gets updates because there are more of those than new games haha.

[@ludewich]

@@GamerZakh Good point, got it!

[@Slow_PEV]

Let's be real. Genshin Impact, Warframe, The first decendant, farcy 5 & 6 are the ones that got co op right in a way. Those are playable. Borderlands 2, shi like that was perfection. We need more

[@GamerZakh]

There's lots, you just listed a bunch. In this video there's also the highest rated game of 2023 and likely the biggest game of 2024.

[@Slow_PEV]

@@GamerZakh love it man keep it up 👏

[@steriskyline4470]

Suicide Squad?! YIKES 🤣

[@GamerZakh]

Yeah, 70% positive from users. It'd be biased of me to not include it.

[@steriskyline4470]

@@GamerZakh 30 current players on steam, how would it be biased to not include a TERRIBLE game that was received horribly?

[@GamerZakh]

​@@steriskyline4470 70% positive is not terrible, and it's not 30, there are 300 players on Steam right this second. Not counting console players, Epic players, or all the Prime Gaming players who get it for free. You're not going to understand if you're getting numbers wrong by over 10 times while ignoring user review scores and every other platform it's on. "Received horribly" you say, then why did it get 70% on Steam, rated by users? Outlets rated it an average of 5-6/10, generally not bad. Here's the thing, there's another game on this list that's actually rated slightly lower by users on Steam, but why didn't you notice that? Why is this particular game standing out so much for you when there is a 6/10 game on the list? The hate is disproportionate.

[@GamerZakh]

@@steriskyline4470 Oh I just saw where you got the 30 number from, it says on Steam "30 in Group Chat". That's not how many are playing the game. If you want to see the number of Steam players, check the Steam Charts website.

[@blitzkrieg714]

Outward 2 for the win!!

[@portador15]

i think you forgot sea of thieves one of the best co op games

[@GamerZakh]

Sea of Thieves fully released in 2020, so it's not a new game for 2024. It's fun though.

[@Homedoceu7]

Can the world make better coop multiplayer games please?

[@GamerZakh]

What kind do you like? There's a lot. I play co-op games with my wife all the time.

[@Homedoceu7]

@@GamerZakh I like destiny, borderlands, warframe, the division... I want some game like those but w/ less grind.

[@GamerZakh]

@@Homedoceu7 Ah so shooter co-op games like Helldivers and Planetside? Maybe Deep Rock Galactic, Starship Troopers: Extermination, or Warhammer: Vermintide 2?

[@Homedoceu7]

@@GamerZakh Helldivers 2 is good. The other ones aren't.

[@artofroy84]

please mention how many friends can join in

[@josezeroninja]

As soon as I saw kill the justice league I had to leave a comment and close the video

[@GamerZakh]

Sure thing, thanks for the view and comment. If you're not able to take games objectively then you won't find a lot of games you're looking for.

[@airdrifter7651]

To be fair a lot of people would click of the video when they see that game as it's a game no one should support

[@GamerZakh]

@@airdrifter7651 That's fine, but it's a co-op game with 71% positive on Steam and released in 2024. It's one of the best co-op games of the year. Many are buying it on big sale and still having fun with it. It belongs in this list whether I like it or not, I have to be neutral. Some have said I shouldn't listed because of lies, like Steam deleting negative reviews, which never happened. Some say I shouldn't list it because it's 'woke', but any time I ask them to define what they mean they get straight up racist. There's more legit reasons like how they'll end support after 1 year, but a ton of games do that and are still niche successes. Main point, it fits the criteria for this list and is positively reviewed. Not listing it would show heavy bias.

[@psu9611]

why is sucide squad on this list its so bad that it bascily destroyed the studio if i dont remeber wrong

[@GamerZakh]

The game with 71% positive ratings on Steam, some people like it. Whether it destroys the studio or not is far more to do with publisher decisions than game performance. Xbox just destroyed a bunch of studios right after they won awards, so I don't take studio destruction into account when looking at games.

[@nosleepneededtonight]

Bought lc the moment it released and played the shii out of it and i had good time Edit: the same with helldivers, I am happy to be in SE's army

[@sindeviltrigger9268]

16:13 lmao get real dude aint nobody playing this game

[@GamerZakh]

@@sindeviltrigger9268 There still are people playing it, and it got 70% positive rating from users. I don't just list games based on sheer playercount. Plus, everyone is always "popularity doesn't equal quality" but only when it's convenient to their perspectives lol. Here's the real deal, there's another game on the list that users rated 6/10, a point worse, but you don't notice that. You only bring up the one that's popular to hate.

[@BlackGold-fc7tu]

Pvpve list next :)

[@GamerZakh]

If this list has interest, I have the idea of splitting this like I did some other genres. So I could focus on couch co-op, pve co-op, pvpve co-op, PvP team co-op, etc. I wish I could make a list for everything but I'm just one guy. I've already made 35 lists for 2024, there's a reason why most creators can't be so comprehensive.

[@Robert-pt2jz]

Anyone have some older games they would recommend? Xbox or Playstation. Ill start with a few recommendations. Baldurs Gate 3 - RPG Diablo - looter Borderlands - Shooter looter The Forest - Survival Horror Green Hell - Survival(steep curve) DayZ - Survival/PVP(brutal for new players)

[@GamerZakh]

Co-op games that I've played extensively with my wife are Cuphead, Overcooked, Moving Out, Unravel, Little Big Planet, and Untitled Goose Game.

[@Homedoceu7]

Warhammer SM2?

[@RiverFox_YT]

if this is the best of games for 2024 then games have gone extremely bad lately. yuck

[@GamerZakh]

@@RiverFox_YT What games do you like? Every year for every genre for the last 11 years of me making these videos people say this on every one. "Games have gone bad" is something that has been said every year for the last 3 decades at least. Probably earlier too but I only remember back to the 90s.

[@RiverFox_YT]

@@GamerZakh I'm very picky, but for me, it just seems like people have run out of ideas and it's always the same old things. Either you farm and build or it's PvP br type games. There never seems to be anything new, so to speak.

[@GamerZakh]

@@RiverFox_YT Ah that's us getting old haha. Every game you felt was original back in the day, those were all clones and copies too. I keep looking back and finding out my old favourites were just ripoffs. I recently found that even Pong was a stolen clone. Wolfensteins were just reskins. Actually most games in the past were just reskins. I like to practice 'name the game and I tell you what it copied' lol. You remember how our parents always said music was just sounding like the same thing again and again? Yeah that's us with games.

[@TunaForever]

Meh list core keeper is the best one

[@GamerZakh]

@@TunaForever So many people say "all meh except (personal favourite)" lol. You're not supposed to like everything on a list of anything you know.

[@ovnfamily]

Can we stop it with the roque like games please? Just a linear hack and slash like Castle Crashers. I really miss something like that. Also really love the upgrade system there because it was easy enough for my wife so that I didn’t have to do her upgrades for her 😅

[@GamerZakh]

@@ovnfamily In this day and age there's a lot of any kind of game. Is the Power Rangers game, then newly announced TMNT game, or something like Cuphead the kind of thing you're looking for?

[@ovnfamily]

@@GamerZakh hey man thank you for your reply and yes I will definitely pick up those! Also It takes two of course was a super cool co-op game, so they’re out there. It just feels like my favourite genre beat em up/hack and slash is just stuck in a trend of being either souls or rogue like. It’s channels like yours however that help me find the gems out there so I appreciate that!

[@Jacklifear]

Missed Pampas & Selene.

[@GamerZakh]

I'm considering doing a metroidvania list.

[@IRazorGuardian]

Thx i will try sworn and suicidesquad.. looking for a game for my gf an me sus

[@RambomanXX]

helldivers 2 so disappointing, keeps crashing

[@numba1killa886]

Bro literally picked the absolute WORST most boring games that look and play like phone games… smh

[@GamerZakh]

In this list is the highest user rated game of 2023 and likely the biggest game of 2024 lol. If you don't like anything here, you just don't like the genre.

[@baxstermarconi3897]

Try playing black and white os seven kingdoms, or Shogun Total th first and second one

[@GamerZakh]

I have videos on black and white

[@baxstermarconi3897]

@@GamerZakh o ok. I will look for them. I love your videos!

[@luisfbjunqueira5837]

thanks!

[@michaelmacarthur8322]

V Rising

[@user-yq8uo4ub2l]

They are cross platform right ?

[@GamerZakh]

I label that in the description if they are. That status can change over time and some haven't confirmed one way or another, so I can update it as news comes out.

[@Cutiejuliya]

Cool info

[@rodrigolopeflores8841]

Te falto Deep rock galacti

[@dontaccoll]

this video is titled best new coop... (best)!!! so how come that suicide squad is in the list? eh? why? why. disliked unltil further explaination

[@GamerZakh]

@@dontaccoll Because it is one of the best for this year. 'Best' doesn't mean 'good' or 'amazing', it means better than others. Suicide Squad has 70% positive on Steam and the main criticism is overmonetisation. Since the big sales the playercount doubled and it's now gone free on other platforms, and the feedback is it's pretty good once you don't have to pay through the nose to enjoy it. Also you can dislike or not, it's not required for me to provide explanations. Ask any question and I'll answer, that's how I've always done things. I enjoy talking about video games.

[@GamerZakh]

Well I hope that answered your question. If you have any others just let me know and I'll get back to you.

[@GamerZakh]

@300ape Here's a full explanation because you didn't get it the first time in this thread: The fact there is a worse reviewed game on the list and you're fine with that indicates the problem. 70% positive user reviews is real and I have to be objective. 7/10 people who played it recommend it, but I'm 'insane' for including it? The insanity seems to be the disproportionate blind hate from a minority who are fine with worse games but hate on this one because it's easy to hate. Not saying it's an absolutely amazing game for everyone, but there are worse and much worse games that people are fine with and enjoy no problem, and you're even fine with me listing one of those here. In 9/10 cases, like this thread, the person criticising me for including the game stops responding after my explanation, which reinforces that the hate it's getting is disproportionate. "Why? Why? Disliked until explanation" I'm told, then they ignore the explanation. This just tells me the dislikes don't mean much and besides, this video is still very positive on the like ratio. Almost everyone, around 95% of people (not exaggerating), who criticise this video are first time commenters too, like you and the original commenter here. Never commented before and I half expect you won't reply anymore either because you're another stranger who doesn't know me or the context of this video. You're not interested in any kind of explanation that you disagree with. You prefer it when creators reinforce what you already like, is the vibe I'm getting from all these first time commenters who never reply. I'd like it if you replied, I like talking about games, but if you're another drive by stranger who doesn't want to talk about this reasonably, then we can both move on pretty easily with this exchange having no weight or meaning.

[@GamerZakh]

@@300apes lol what a basic troll, banned.

[@matthewcharles9813]

Not a very good list and feels uniformed.

[@GamerZakh]

Wow much specifics, really insightful comment.

[@jcataclisma]

🍻🍻🍻😊😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@KrejziKrokodil]

My friend Zoki is so fat when we join a lobby he takes a place for 4 players.

[@brandonneifert3199]

lol SS kill the justice league isnt a good game 10/10 dont recommend. a majority of reviews were negative they got deleted.

[@GamerZakh]

I have not seen evidence of Steam full on deleting user reviews. When there are 'off topic' reviews, it filters them out by default but the review score gets an asterix and you can reveal the 'off topic' reviews again and count it to the score. This game doesn't have that. Looking up Steam review deleting for the game, there's no evidence it happened. I keep seeing people say "there were 7k reviews now it's 2k" thing, but other tracker sites don't show that happening and not a single person screenshotted the 7K negative review score? So many people floating about the games failure and not one person screenshotted the negative score? If you have evidence please do share, because it'd be a big story. Steam's entire integrity would crumble. Every game's user score on Steam would be called into question. None of them could be taken as real. So please, evidence or it has to remain a conspiracy theory.

[@GamerZakh]

Hey do you have any evidence? I'd love to make a video showcasing the corruption and bring attention to it, I just need any kind of evidence to point to. Please do share so we can get the word out.

[@GamerZakh]

So you made that up huh?

[@brandonneifert3199]

@GamerZakh lol did u even play the game? They still haven't even fixed bugs that have been there since launch. Literally looked on steam it has 0 players playing lol.

[@GamerZakh]

@@brandonneifert3199 Hey, you said Steam deleted negative reviews. Don't change the topic, that's a serious accusation. Where's the evidence of reviews being deleted? 71% positive, don't tell me it's bad, tell the 71% of people who recommended the game.

[@dungdung8532]

You may already know that the gaming community is very toxic right now and when there is a top list of something, there will always be at least 1 or more saying "all these games are trash" just because their games are not included or not. have to disqualify them, I can understand this is a personal opinion but still a lot of people don't like someone's top list and curse them like crying 3 year olds who can't create their own review list because of them not as famous as you and no one will watch or respect the times you explain in detail to those 3 year olds why you chose these games even though this is your personal opinion even so they don't understand every word you say because their level is too poor to understand what you say (so if Steam has 50k games, you must have the top 50k best games on Steam to please them :] ) / personally I just like 1-2 game, don't really like all the games in here, and even if there isn't a game I like, I won't be rude like some of the people in this video

[@GamerZakh]

Hey thank you for understanding and your approach of finding 1-2 games in a list is exactly what they're for. No one is going to like every game in a list, they're so different from each other even in the same genre that's impossible. I do like explaining why things are the way they are, I just wish people asked questions first and actually wanted the answer. Typically, they ask a sarcastic question which is more an accusation than a question, then when I give a real answer they just get more mad. I wonder which games lists they are watching where they are actually happy? Because some of these problems are impossible to solve for everyone. Even if I listed 50K games, people would complain "too much" and "might as well just go to Steam and list all upcoming games, pointless list", which I start to get when I list more than 50 games, let alone 50K.

[@dungdung8532]

​@@GamerZakhWhat you say is very true, but instead of them coming here to find games they might like, they choose to talk harshly about other people's personal opinions, which I don't like very much (and I know I can't please them). please the audience because even if you say it right they will still find a way to make you wrong like I gave an example of 50k games / the reason I say that is because I'm afraid you won't be happy to explain if you enjoy It's quite fun like what I'm doing) so please continue to spread your opinion, it's worth it. 

[@chriswhitson5934]

Did it to themselfs tho community driven game kinda dies when u think u can get political wit a base that doesn't care and are generally disrespectful when balancing weapons and items people like.95% of us let them know we're not sticking around long enough to watch ruin something we loved again

[@GamerZakh]

Which game are you talking about here?

[@emmettf1107]

"Best coop" and suicide squad is on the list?? ARE YOU ON CRACK?? Also, it would be nice if you mentioned what platforms the games are available on.

[@GamerZakh]

Best doesn't mean 'amazing' or 'good', it means the other options are not as good. Suicide Squad has 70% positive rating on Steam, people generally like it. The main criticism was the overmonetisation and high price. With the discounts, the playercount actually tripled, and it's just gone free on other platforms. Also, platforms are in the description. Those change over time, so putting them in the video would mean the video just gets more wrong as announcements happen.

[@welds8424]

Putting suicide squad on a best games list makes me gag. You actually cannot be serious. The "you dont like the genre" retort is no excuse for hyping that omwga trash dumpsterfire they tried to pass off as a game.

[@GamerZakh]

@@welds8424 That retort isn't for you or for people who criticise that game. Don't conflate the two, they're unrelated. And 70% positive on Steam, the fact there is a worse reviewed game on the list but you don't notice it is the problem here.

[@welds8424]

@@GamerZakh 2 wrongs dont make a right keke

[@GamerZakh]

@welds8424 Do you want a proper explanation or would you rather just hate on the video? I'm okay either way, will answer if you want answers. I mean, you somehow skipped the 70% positive rating point multiple times but used unrelated retorts I said to other people to try and call me out. If we're talking about wrongs... If you don't reply it'll just tell me you're another first time commenter who just wants to hate, so I can dismiss you pretty easily and we can both move on.

[@HanakoSeishin]

Cat Quest 3 where?

[@GamerZakh]

EDIT: For anyone else reading in future, HanakoSeishin began this conversation in another thread where they questioned what genre this video even was about, asking sarcastically if it was a "free MOBA" list even when there are zero free MOBAs in it (there is 1 MOBA and I explain in the video why it's there). They have a history over the last few years of questioning me on how I curate my lists and how genres are defined, but despite the numerous conversations we've had, they just don't agree with how I curate genres. In this particular case, I finally asked them to make a list of co-op games themselves to not only show exactly how they would curate the genre but also demonstrate their understanding and reasoning through concrete choices. Hanako adamantly refused to write their own list, they're willing to write thousands of words over many days to argue their point, but they absolutely will not put their money where their mouth is and just write a list of games. It would've been faster if they just wrote their own list considering how confident they are. They even said that choices were 'obvious' and 'simple', but they will not do the obvious and simple thing of writing a list of games. It's clear that despite their façade of absolute certainty, they're not actually sure at all how to curate a list of a genre of games themselves, they're just upset their personal favourite game they think should be here isn't. They then stopped replying here and began restarting the conversation in other locations on my channel. Every time I push them to proving their point, they stop replying and restart the conversation somewhere else, replying to other people's comments targeting me. Their tactic is to restart the conversation again and again until they find someone who agrees with them instead of actually proving their point. The following thread is here for posterity. Original reply: I have a couple lists to make where that will fit. I currently have it for my Pirate and Coziest lists. When it comes to game genres and curating list videos, any game can fit into any genre if you try hard enough. So how do you pick which list to put a game in? For example, if we look at user defined tags for Cat Quest 2 (not 3 because tags tend to stabilise after release), the top tags are: "Adventure, Exploration, Action RPG, Hack & Slash, Character Customisation" Does that mean I should list Cat Quest 3 in my Adventure games list with games like Indiana Jones? My Action RPG list with games like The Witcher? My Hack & Slash RPG list of Diablo-like games? All 3 of them having it appear again and again? Those all feel wrong for Cat Quest 3. You can of course say it should be in this co-op list, that's not wrong. 'Local co-op' is the 7th user defined tag for Cat Quest 2 and 9th for Cat Quest 3. It is a game with local co-op, but is it a "co-op game"? For some yes, for others no. You mentioned Larian games as expected in a co-op list in your other comment. BG3 does have the 'online co-op' user tag at the 10th spot. But is it more of an online co-op game or is it an RPG, CRPG, Turn-based Tactics, and a D&D game? It has co-op, but is it a "co-op game"? Again for some yes some no. So this puts game genre curation in a weird spot. Do I listen to what people say it should be categorised as? If yes then who? The majority consider Cat Quest to be more of an action adventure pirate RPG. Do I listen to them? Or do I listen to you, who says it's a co-op game? Neither are wrong. Alternatively, do I list Cat Quest 3 in every genre possible? If I do that, every list I make would have the same games again and again and they'll all be hundreds of games long. I can't do it for just Cat Quest 3, every game needs to be in every relevant genre list. That doesn't seem right either and it would make the lists bloated, repetitive, and kind of useless. So what's the best approach here? What would you do in my situation?

[@HanakoSeishin]

@@GamerZakh I guess you could say Larian games ruined co-op games for me, because after them I can't take most games advertised as co-op seriously. I'm especially salty about how Genshin Impact was advertised as co-op... and now instead of the actually worth mentioning Cat Quest 3 you're bringing up more free-to-play and MOBA sh... stuff (okay, maybe it wasn't a free-to-play MOBA, and instead it's free-to-play and MOBA as separate items on the list... I didn't care enough for them to remember which was which). A question of whether something is RPG or Turn-based tactics at least makes sense (and I think in case of BG3 it's pretty clear the answer is it's CRPG first and foremost as tactics just appear as element of that... also in case of Cat Quest I think it's clearly an Adventure before anything else, as neither RPG or hack-and-slash elements are any deep - indeed there aren't even any dialogue options, at least there weren't in the two games so far), but in case of a question of whether something is RPG or co-op, it's not just a question with no definitive answer, it's a nonsensical question to begin with. Because co-op isn't a genre in a way RPG is. So it's like asking if something is RPG or isometric, or if something is RPG or fantasy. But what if it's isometric fantasy! And then you're gonna ask if Cat Quest is adventure or cozy... I also don't quite understand the question "so should I put it on both lists" coming from you as if you're not already putting like half if not most of the games on more than one list. And the answer also seems to be quite an obvious yes. I think that if someone is looking specifically for a good co-op experience, then it makes sense that they would look in the list specifically titled co-op, rather than go through list of each genre (let alone subgenre) they might be interested in (especially seeing how your classification of games by genres isn't something everyone can agree with, so to be sure one would have to check all the lists in case something they would actually be interested in gets categorized as something else) and sort through dozens of games seeing if any of them mention co-op (also relying on you not forgetting to mention co-op in lists not dedicated to that). On the other hand people not looking for co-op will not look at the co-op list and thus not be annoyed by it featuring games they already saw in the genre lists. And if someone is watching all the lists just in case or to kill time, then it's on them, and the lists are already featuring a lot of repetition, so one more - and this time where it actually makes sense - won't make much difference.

[@GamerZakh]

@@HanakoSeishin I can understand the salt about Genshin, it's not something I've ever been into and I've never mentioned it for many reasons. And yeah the non-sensical problem is the problem with making genre list videos. See you feel like "as if you're not already putting like half if not most of the games on more than one list", but that's just not true. In 99% of cases, a game I list is in 2 lists: 1. The subgenre (like Path of Exile 2 in the ARPG list) 2. The megalist compilation (the full RPG list of all RPGs) You won't find Path of Exile 2 in any other list. It's not in the Action RPG list, even though many consider it an Action RPG. It's not in the CRPG list, even though it's classic in many ways and isometric like classic RPGs. Path of Exile 2 is in two lists. You say it's an obvious yes to put every game into every list, but I haven't been doing that and when I do it doesn't work. Every list would be 100-300 games long and make no sense to anyone looking for any genre of game. What you're proposing is that every one of my subgenre RPG lists should include every game from every other RPG list. So instead of: 1. ARPG 2. CRPG 3. Action RPG 4. First-person RPG 5. Tactical RPG 6. General RPG 7. All RPGs You are saying every RPG list should include every RPG, so you get: 1. All RPGs 2. All RPGs 3. All RPGs 4. All RPGs 5. All RPGs 6. All RPGs 7. All RPGs Basically, just 1 megalist that a LOT of people do not watch and is impossible for me to produce in one shot and cover my costs. See how it doesn't work? As you say, "I think that if someone is looking specifically for a good co-op experience, then it makes sense that they would look in the list specifically titled co-op" Yes! That's exactly it! And the majority of people do not consider Cat Quest as a co-op game first, so they won't be here looking for it. Your suggestion is an impossibility not just in terms of a creator's ability to create, it doesn't actually solve the problem.

[@GamerZakh]

@@HanakoSeishin Think of it this way, as I mentioned you can argue any game into any genre. Cat Quest is tagged RPG, but you say it isn't an RPG, so does it go into the RPG list or not? So let's say we combine every RPG into the RPG megalist. Okay. Now RPGs have combat systems, combat means there's tactics and strategy, in fact usually an RPG has some kind of 'strategy' user tag on Steam. So that means every RPG needs to appear in every Strategy games list as well, right? So the RPG and Strategy lists are now combined. But wait, first person shooters need tactics and strategy too! So every FPS is combined. Now we have a list of RPGs, Strategy games, and FPS games all in one giant 'Strategy' list. Oh then we have simulation games, economical strategy is also required and often a user tag on sims, so Simulation games get mixed in as well. If you actually follow through with what you're proposing, what you end up with is one single megalist of every game in existence. Not even mentioning the people who say if an old game is still popular today I should list it, like those saying I should list X4 (from 2018) in my 2024 list because it's a good game that people still play. So if I keep just listening to what people want, you literally get every game that has ever existed in 1 infinite list of games. I mean, do you genuinely think Cat Quest should be listed next to The Witcher and Diablo? Because that's your proposal right now. You can say that you would prefer that, but I can guarantee that it won't work for a list when put into practice. You said: 1. "in case of Cat Quest I think it's clearly an Adventure before anything else, as neither RPG or hack-and-slash elements are any deep" but also... 2. "the answer also seems to be quite an obvious yes" to me listing a game in all lists with any relevant tag These statements don't work together, so the 'obvious' bit is very weird when it's the opposite of obvious even in your own post. This all boils down to, once again, these lists not making sense for people who have never tried to make lists before. Try it yourself, which games would you list in a 2024 co-op games list? No matter what you list, I will be able to criticise it in 100 different ways. You have criticised my lists multiple times now, so really as an exercise, make a list of 2024 co-op games and you will quickly see why it's way more complicated than you think and not obvious at all.

[@HanakoSeishin]

​@@GamerZakh > You say it's an obvious yes to put every game into every list That's NOT what I'm saying. I'm not saying to put it into every genre list, I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to exclude it from the co-op list because it's already in a genre list. It's the same as if you made a sci-fi games list and then excluded games from it because they're already in an RPG or RTS or whatever list. > And the majority of people do not consider Cat Quest as a co-op game first Again you're putting a question like whether it's adventure or co-op first, which makes no sense. It's as if you had a list of sci-fi games and then excluded games from it that are already in like RPG or RTS lists. Or if you made a list of pixel art games and then excluded something because it's already in the RPG list or sci-fi list. You can sort things into black things list and white things list and then have an odd grey thing which you have to decide if it's more white or more black - that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is when you're trying to sort things into white things list and fluffy things list and then you say you can't put a white fluffy thing in both and have to decide if it's more white than fluffy. And that somehow if I tell you to put a white fluffy thing into both white list and fluffy list it somehow means I'm also asking you to put it in all the black and blue and red lists. Black, white, blue and red are all classes in the same classification: by color, and fluffy or bald is a whole separate classification altogether. There's no such thing as "majority of people do not expect a white fluffy thing in the list of fluffy things because they don't consider it a fluffy thing first", because you can argue about a zebra if it's white with black stripes or black with white stipes, but it doesn't make sense to argue if something is more fluffy than white. "More fluffy than white" is just a nonsensical set of words rather than a meaningful phrase, and similarly so is "it's more adventure than co-op". Co-op is not a gameplay genre like RPG or RTS, it's a form of multiplayer, and as co-op is the only form of multiplayer in Cat Quest 3, it's thus co-op first because it has no other forms of multiplayer to stand before co-op. It's as co-op as it gets without becoming exclusively co-op like It Takes Two. Meanwhile a MOBA certainly is NOT co-op first, because in terms of forms of multiplayer it's a MOBA first. In conclusion, I'm sure people looking specifically for co-op (and not like, you know, MOBA) would be happy to see Cat Quest 3 on the list, certainly more so than see a MOBA or whatever. P.S. It can even be argued that Cat Quest 2 at least (seeing how 3 isn't released yet so we can only assume it's the same) is more co-op than singleplayer, because even in singleplayer you have the second character follow you around controlled by the computer, as if it's just a stand-in for a second player for the case you don't have one, and you can switch between characters because you want to use skills from both. Although I would also say that if you had a list of singleplayer games, you should include Cat Quest 3 in both singleplayer and co-op, because it can fully be played as either, and people seeking for single player wouldn't mind an optional co-op mode, same as people seeking for co-op wouldn't mind an optional single-player mode.

[@Carpatouille]

Another uninteresting year for gaming. What a bore.

[@GamerZakh]

What kind of games do you like? I've listed about 400 games for 2024 so far. You really don't have any new games you like?

[@Carpatouille]

@@GamerZakh That's what depressing, so many different games yet I feel like none of them have something new that's interesting to me to offer. I've liked many games of different genres, with RPG games in general being my favorites, but nowadays nothing feels new, it's always the same things and I feel like I've already played all the different kind of games the market has to offer. It's not your fault. But thanks for trying to provide these detailed lists.

[@chriswhitson5934]

Helldivers died its deader then destiny 2 now

[@GamerZakh]

Destiny is one of the biggest games in the world ever. It's currently the 14th most played game on Steam. If that's your definition for a dead game then you really don't have much to play huh.

[@dollthine7978]

Multiplayer gaming is dead

[@GamerZakh]

@@dollthine7978 When was it alive then? I play so many co-op games with my wife. Overcooked, Moving Out, Cuphead, Unravel, Little Big Planet, Untitled Goose Game, Lego games. Then on a larger scale, Helldivers 2 is probably going to be the biggest game of this year and it has zero PvP, it's all PvE co-op and it has millions of players while the highest rated game of last year is Lethal Company.

[@silkygolden8901]

all of them trash

[@GamerZakh]

Haha sure~ If you don't like a single game then you just don't like the genre.

[@HanakoSeishin]

@@GamerZakh the what genre? free to play MOBA? sure. Cause from a list of co-op we were expecting things like Larian's games or at least like Cat Quest 3 or such.

[@GamerZakh]

@@HanakoSeishin That's what you're expecting, not 'we'. Larian games? That's not the usual expectation for co-op games. I wouldn't list BG3 in a co-op games list. Like I ask in the video, what really counts as a "co-op game"? Any game with multiplayer and it isn't just PvP? There are thousands of games that could fit if that was the criteria. This is far more complicated than you're presenting it. I asked more specifically about Cat Quest in your other comment. I mention a single free to play MOBA in the video for reasons explained in the video itself. 1/20 games and you think this is a free to play MOBA list? Really? Please don't get weirdly snarky man. If you want to prove a point, write your list of 2024 co-op games and we can compare and learn. I even say in the video that Smite 2 doesn't really fit this list. Like I say it, I even explain more in the outro. Did you watch the video or did you just read the titles? Edit: Oh sorry, I forgot Smite 2 is paid, Smite 1 is free. There are actually zero free to play MOBAs in this video.

[@silkygolden8901]

@@GamerZakh iwas looking for single player games that gte me more into the story with my friend not like in this video iwill see another videos of yours and see what i can find

[@stevenA44]

You picked some of the WORST games ever! Why can't companies makes REAL games that have good graphics (not cartoonish shit), and NO UNDEAD BS in it? I'm sick and tired of all the CRAP coming from game companies anymore.

[@GamerZakh]

I picked games that are, I can't tell you about games that don't exist. What 2024 co-op game are you thinking of? Is this a criticism of my list or game companies?

[@stevenA44]

@@GamerZakh It's a criticism of both.

[@GamerZakh]

Oh not to mention this list includes the highest rated game on Steam for 2023 and what's likely to be the biggest most played game of 2024. You really have to define what's good or bad for you here.

[@GamerZakh]

@@stevenA44 But what are you criticising of me? For telling you about the best co-op games being made for 2024? Are you saying I should make up games that don't exist? You're not making sense.

[@stevenA44]

@@GamerZakh I just don't agree with your pick of games is all. Just because they were "top games" in 2023 (or any year) doesn't make them good games in my opinion. No I'm not saying you should make up game, unless you can make some that are worth playing. Also, the kinds of games I like are NON PvP games, NON cartoonish games, games that require you to eat or drink to keep your health up, single player games (I want multiplayer co-op games). There's a lot of other things too, but this is just a start. I also am tired of any undead (zombies, ghouls, demons and crap) games. Let me just fight regular human NPCs and normal beasts.