The Best of CES 2020

[@KnightMD]

Skip to 1:00 ti avoid the nauseating cheesy Vegas montage

[@federicocolombo4521]

You mean the "let's make a useless one minute intro so the video is 10 minutes long" montage?

[@NizzleFM]

Thank you.

[@JasonMemory]

I appreciate your help good sir!

[@SamucaVlogs]

Thank you!

[@test-mm7bv]

fkn annoying - but they hit that 10min target in other words, they're willing to irriate viewers for their benefit

[@kobby2g8]

This video was brought to you by Hydraloop. Hail Hydraloop!

[@matteo0196]

hail Hydra!

[@pawi123]

Hail hydroloop!

[@Simon74]

This $4k box is the dumbest shit I have seem in a long time...

[@Theshizlenizle]

Grey water harvesting is nothing new, I installed 1 close to 10 years ago. Brilliant idea tho just needs to come down in price

[@greenducky]

@@Simon74 Especially when the lowtech community are the one who originally created that idea and share the plans for DIY for free online...... People trying to make money when the community is trying to share the knowledge for free....

[@rahinhuq1608]

The intro brought me back to the 80s and I was born in the 90s

[@TonySandoval405]

That’s not the 80’s. Very much late 90’s early 2000’s

[@whatistime5768]

Boss: hey no headphones! Me: Chill out man it’s my hearing aid Boss: oh carry on Me: *plays music*

[@jimyarbrough9935]

At my work we actually got Blue tooth wire less ear buds for Christmas.

[@otakudoctor8423]

the intro is too long

[@imacg5]

Just to stretch to hit that 10 minute mark

[@stevethea5250]

@@imacg5 Are you allowed to wait at this traffic stop, flashing No Right Turn lights?

[@brettvanbortel73]

Just skip it

[@JR-mk6ow]

Really? A adapter for gaming on phones? A smart-grill? Did you just randomly threw names to the air? Best laptop XPS? What about those new fully AMD or 16 hours of use laptops?

[@Phae576]

the xps 13 has new amd chipset

[@TheOxiongarden]

True. The list was terrible

[@danielgomez7236]

I was like... Razer adapter? What about the Alienware UFO Concept?

[@mongral59]

Don't forget stupid looking ear buds, if this was the best of 2020, I don't want to be alive. I might look up that drone, that looked dope.

[@shanegrissett7423]

@@mongral59 to be fair about the earbuds, they are more for people with hearing loss (which is why they called them hearing aids FYI) and I thought they were pretty neat. Especially considering I have slight hearing loss in my left ear that might get worse over the next few decades and I'm only 18.

[@superhero6785]

"What cool new consumer tech did you look forward to in 2020?!" "A $4,000 water tank, apparently..."

[@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS]

Watched intro. Now have a headache

[@AdnanAhmed]

File a lawsuit. You have a legitimate case

[@ttthh3167]

Mkk Llm

[@mixey01]

Still no flying cars after 52 years CES 😢

[@igaraider]

Hyundai uber?

[@Radio_FM_3123]

No flying refrigerator and stove as well !!! :(

[@theoc007]

@@igaraider that's not a car, more like a vtol drone for passengers.

[@igaraider]

@@theoc007 I know. I'm just trying to get him to look at the brighter side. We got flying something

[@vali69]

Excuse my language but fuck flying cars... the concept of having flying cars has a shit ton of fallacies... from the fact that there will be more deaths because it allows normal people to fly, the fact that there should be a new type of license that would cost just as much as a normal pilot license(aka a lot), the fact that u would still have to use airports to land, the fact that it should use plane fuel if it was used for long distances(which is also expensive) and other alternatives like electric powered ones wouldnt allow for a greater range with current technology and technology that is to come in the next 20 years... hell and if u are thinking of levitating/hover type of cars then jr just dreaming of impossible technologies... that shit isnt possible in real life... so the only option is those weird transformer looking things that have expandable wings... which mind u wont be reliable... imagine having a malfunction mid air with the wings.... u might as well pray theres life after death before plummeting into someones house or in the middle of nowhere... so if u really want to fly spend a shit ton on getting a plane and a license... or a helicopter... but it aint worth it

[@rejoyy]

The Apple Airpods sure has helped Hearing aids become fashionable. I used to always try getting Hearing instruments that go way into the ear canal so that it couldn't be seen. Right now, it feels okay to have it hanging out the ear. Will definitely get myself one of these new types of hearing aids the next time I change.

[@richa9719]

Hydra loop, required if you live in California.

[@colincampbell767]

Save water - but increased electricity charges.

[@mrdot1126]

@TEC Man to be fair.. they dont do this just to fu.. with people.. its simple, California is running out of water..

[@shadowzedge5793]

@@mrdot1126 Running out of water? Hahahahahahahaha ... That's funny! They have plenty of water from the Pacific ocean but they refuse to build desalinization plants because they feel it will detract from the coast line and therefore lost tourist revenue. So I'm the end they tell all their residents "Screw you! You have to conserve water so we can get more money from those that visit us"

[@colincampbell767]

@@mrdot1126 California is not 'running out of water.' They have just refused to spend the money on increasing the capacity of the water infrastructure as the population increased.

[@jimyarbrough9935]

Doesnt NY require low flow toilets as well?

[@Microassist]

Bravo starting your coverage off with Accessibility Tech!

covered in ear wax

[@ak_hoops]

That Hydroloop is the one! Perfect if it gets big enough. I am all here for this!

[@colincampbell767]

Try doing the math. I ran the numbers through a calculator and found that it would save me $12-15 on my yearly water bill. And that would be counterbalanced by the electricity costs for running the pumps. At best - your electricity costs would be just a little higher than the amount of money you save on your water bill.

[@JasonMcFly]

Too much intro fluff Engadget

[@typingcat]

They needed that filler to make the video length reach 10:00.

[@JasonMcFly]

@@typingcat haha totally!

[@patricgmuer2988]

Jeong-hun Sin thats what I was going to say

[@mingyuhuang8944]

It's done on purpose idiot

[@wbrandon78]

You guys might want to consider doing a sister video to the "winners of CES" being a video that talks about the 2-3 runners up in each category. Thanks for a great video!

[@rogerdouglas2306]

and we want to give a shoutout to our sponsor... hydraloop

[@KyleLi]

I had no idea I ever wanted water recycling. I do now.

[@colincampbell767]

It sounds like a great idea until you do the math on what it will cost and the cost of the water it saves. You do realize that this is something that will wind up saving you about $20 a year on your water bill and would increase your electric bill by about the same amount - right?

[@David-un4cs]

@@colincampbell767 Cost aside is the reduced water usage a net benefit for the environment when you factor in the electricity the device uses? I'd imagine if you have solar panels it would be, but not everyone does. So I'm curious.

[@colincampbell767]

@@David-un4cs The problem is that most wastewater is treated and then returned to the environment. Where I live rivers feed into reservoirs and most of that water is released back into the river. The remaining water is used for public water systems. The wastewater from these systems (just under half of the total*) goes to wastewater treatment plants and is released back into the rivers. So in reality we are not using water as much as we are borrowing it. And since most baseline electrical power comes from fossil fuels (and will for the foreseeable future) you are increasing the amount of carbon dioxide released to the air. *The rest of the water is used for landscape irrigation and either percolates down to the ground water, or is absorbed by plants and then released into the atmosphere. And a small portion of that water is used by plants to make cellulose - which releases oxygen and sequesters carbon from the air. (In poorly managed irrigation systems some of the water runs off into the storm drains and returns to the river.) So 'saving water' isn't going to really happen. And remember that our current water conservation measures have had second order effects. One of which is that some of the water savings have to be offset by the requirement to inject water directly into the sewer system to maintain flow and prevent clogs. What this means is that every gallon of water 'saved' from this device means that another gallon of water will be needed to keep the sewer system operating correctly. One thing that our society does a poor job of is considering second and third order effects of actions. As far as I know the military is the only place where people are trained - and expected - to do this.

[@garethlloyd1445]

You could always pee in bottles

[@jimyarbrough9935]

@@garethlloyd1445 good plan, can you share your address so we can ship the bottles to you.

[@NomadEnigma]

The best channel, to say the least.

[@CDines]

That intro choppy af

[@psedog]

With all that movement they should have uploaded it in 60fps. I'm sure it looked great when they were making it, lol.

[@JYMAHJAMES]

@@psedog Not sure if joking but it was clearly on purpose

[@mingyuhuang8944]

@@psedog it's done on purpose idiot

[@toorealfishy7270]

i think its on purpose

[@VirtuaMe]

I actually loved the neon intro, whole video is great - liking your content more lately

[@trey1531]

You can already get toilets with a built in sink that use the sink water to flush. And you don't have to re plumb your house.

[@alesslg6281]

A shoutout to AMD's 4000 laptops lineup

[@danielstartek1497]

Nice stabilized intro! Are youse guys insane!!!!!!!!!!

[@nickcellini5609]

So this video is like a car magazine or a motor vehicle award. Whoever pays Engadget the most money gets listed as the best tech for that category !!!!

[@remyazharyyosef1811]

Besides the Oscars, CES would probably be one event that I'll start looking forward to. Given the fact that I'm a gadget freak and smart home enthusiast.

[@ZapDash]

Hydraloop is interesting, but how does its power use and efficiency compare to a municipal treatment plant's? And if it cycles grey water for use in black water applications, could that lack of grey water in the pipes and sewers lead to more clogging in major sewage systems?

[@ES-qy2ju]

Is a shame that the HBO's showcase for the Season 3 of Westworld isn't on the list, it was an unique experience on CES.

[@zengara11]

Imagine if Boston Dynamics or ASLM decided for just 1 year to come to this event...They would come first place...all the time

[@brianmsahin]

Great list, agree with most of them, hydraloop looks great, and the insta 360 camera. I would give the TV prize to Samsung for their new Micro led technology, it's way ahead of LG. The Dell was a good PC choice, but if there was a tablet or chromebook category, the new Samsung Chromebook is absolutely gorgeous. Dare I say it, but it's the first chromebook I've seen that's actually usable and worth the price. That red colour is just stunning too.

[@ginjafox9509]

I’m sorry, the “Best gaming product” is a controller? What about the Alienware switch-like handheld? Or AMD’s new mobile processors?

[@MrFurkanGunduz]

alienware handheld was indeed switch-like...

[@garethlloyd1445]

They probably got just as excited when they found a penny on the floor

[@Dr1on]

Great coverage this week, thanks. Also a breath of fresh air compared to CNET who tried faaaar too hard to be kooky!

[@kl3nd4thu]

At the end the narrator mentioned that Hydraloop can "prevent and reverse the effects of climate change." How does it that? I thought that climate change was due to excess CO2 generation and the overuse of hydrocarbons vs. sustainable energy sources?

[@danielgomez7236]

Yeah, you cannot change the climate, it's just trendy words for anything ecological or enviromental related.

[@jeffreylebowski4927]

@@danielgomez7236 Are you stupid? - Humanity is changing the climate right now by emitting green house gases... So you CAN change the climate... This video was stupid anyways, and hydraloop has no impact on climate change or its effects.

[@danielgomez7236]

@@jeffreylebowski4927 I'm not saying that climate doesn't change. It is just that you cannot change climate with this "Hydraloop" thing, it only provides clean water, that's it, the world temps will stay the same, it won't cool the world or anything.

[@jeffreylebowski4927]

@@danielgomez7236 oh ok, it seemed like in your first comment you said that you cant change the climate period - which is a popular (and stupid) thing, alot of climate change deniers are saying. Misunderstanding then...

[@jeffreylebowski4927]

@Rocket League The problem isnt even, that you dont understand anything, its that you think you do understand it and can form a valid opinion - its called the Diane-Kruger effect - the people knowing the least, often think they know the most. In a nutshell: Even if we assumed, that right now we were in the strongest natural warming cycle as they have existed in the past (which we are not - warming stopped 10.000 years ago when we came out of an ice age), that would mean the planet would warm about 0.1°C per 100years - right now we are warming at a rate of about 2.5°C per 100 years - that is 25x faster than any natural warming ever happened on this planet - You are a moron, who doesnt understand the difference between 10.000 years and 100 years... - just because you will die anyways in 80 years, doesnt mean smoking 5 packs of cigarettes and drinking 20 beers a day will make no difference. Oh yeah and the sun becoming a red giant - thats roughly 6.000.000.000 years from now or six-thousand-million years - how is that relevant to todays climate? - IDIOT

[@ppipowerclass]

So I'll be able to use my free charging with my Tesla Model S and back feed the grid so my electric bill will go down to nothing? Sweet :)

[@ShalomBhopale]

Technically yes, but the cost to set up your entire home to run off battery power could be problematic, all your large energy appliances would not be able to cope. Maybe just home lighting could work.

[@Itheb]

@@ShalomBhopale he can resell the energy

[@colincampbell767]

@stresser 123 And even then the electric utilities are wising up and refusing to pay the retail rate for the electricity provided by home solar panels. In most places they have cut what they pay to the wholesale rate they pay for baseline power. One of the biggest issues is that for any kind of a home built after the 1970's - it's very hard to find cost-effective energy efficiency upgrades. In most homes the decrease in energy efficiency is more due to a lack of maintenance than anything else.

[@ayu12641]

Not nothing. Your battery life will deplete significantly. Most lithium batteries have a charge cycle limit.

[@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489]

@stresser 123 If you buy older model used Tesla, you get unlimited free supercharging. Idea is to charge at supercharger for free hence free energy.

[@eaglefalcon]

Really... a water recycler... is the best in show... Technology that has been in RVs for years... is the best most amazing technology in the entire show?

[@FurryMetalFerretVT]

right saw theses in Japan along time ago, where they used it for the same thing, used their bath water and dishes, that then was filtered into their washers and toilets. that was 15 years ago. and im sure it was not even new then. just western world lagging behind as usual, things there need a cool marketing campaign to have a hope to sell regardless of how useful the item is.

[@colincampbell767]

I question the practicality of the hydroloop. In most places water availability is not an issue. So there is no real benefit to the expense of the unit as well as having your house re-plumbed to support it. And I'd also wonder about whether or not energy costs will offset the cost of the water saved. (Remember that it has to pump the water up unto the unit and then increase it to standard home water pressure. Which means that pumps are involved.) I suspect that you'd need a combination of expensive water and cheap electricity for this to be practical. Also remember that landscape irrigation is the largest use of water in most suburban homes.

[@MyLittleUnboxing]

Awesome product for 2020

[@BIGBASSSAMA_4]

Would you end up saving money in the long run if you buy and install hydraloop?

[@larryboldt8255]

Your ROI is like 50 years.... saving $$? Nope

[@cedricvillani8502]

Best devices for old people.. stay turned cuz that’s what Engadget is good for these day’s

[@kimjongun5073]

What accent does this host have? I’m not quite familiar with that accent

[@eridani4813]

Oh you water-worried-selfindulged-HIPPIES

[@GH-if5xw]

My town sits on an underground aquifer, lots of very clean water, and tested. That device is expensive and complicated. Maybe Countries with a water shortage can use it,

[@kinocchio]

Thanks Engadget for your coverage of CES!

[@karataskemal7357]

Everything we know is changing day by day and i started to feel myself an old guy.

[@johncitrowske9922]

Hail HYDRA-loop!

[@iffibelieveinme2393]

John Citrowske Lmaoo

[@cocogravy1075]

HAIL HYDRA LOOP HAIL HYDRA LOOP HAIL HYDRA LOOP HAIL HYDRA LOOP

[@bmsatw9128]

thanks for uploading this

[@Roberto-uk3ml]

1M congratulations!!!

[@milvache]

I think Sonys S Vision car is going to be good. Its good to see Sony in the car market

[@johndinsdale1707]

Made by jaguar ipace company Magna just a new top

[@altontoni5436]

would have preferred if you just showed a recap of everything that was shown at CES and let us be the judge

[@dogzandglue9180]

What Nike prescription frames were those that your limited hearing pal wore?

[@Finite-Tuning]

Yeah, I can certainly understand some heated debates over these top picks.... I mean, I wasn't there myself, but I know there's a snob somewhere in every category! Speaking of, hydraloop? I don't even want to touch this device with a 10' pole! But I do it all naturally, the way mother nature does it. I pee/poo, liquid goes to a leach field while solids sit in a pile (tank) until bacteria consumes said pile. This is what we call a septic system. Liquid evaporates and goes up in the air to form rain clouds. Then rain falls and replenishes my well. Crap liquid out and a clean liquid return for free! I ask you, what does this hydraloop machine have over mother nature?

[@mrdot1126]

in California, that water recycling system will be a thing, and wont take to much time, its only a matter of pricing...

[@colincampbell767]

If that thing were a good idea it would have been in houses decades ago. None of the tech in it is new and people have been promoting water recycling schemes for over a hundred years.

[@aeronjorge98]

The title should be Hydroloop

[@Xaanix73]

we'll probably be drinking out of those hydroloops after bugaloo.

[@theniii]

Best wearable this year is definitely Nreal Light

[@vvkim20]

it's a better best of the best than last year.

[@trapical]

8:30 that background music is fire.

[@biglloyd5870]

That shit trash lol

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

Lol, it's cool and nice. But I wouldn't describe it as "fire". "Fire" is like for a sick hip hop beat.

[@acdnan]

I never heard of hydraloop. This is why I am subscribed to this channel. Also they are a no brainier in terms of best at cedar 2020. My second choice would have been the car charger that basically makes a electric car a home battery.

[@TWAN330]

The Sony Car and the Samsung Bluetooth shower head 🚿 stole the show for me ijs 😌

[@johndinsdale1707]

The Sony car was a jaguar ipace with a new skin made by Magna

[@DavidRamirez-vc8dr]

Ah... nothing like a good ole :30 second montage

[@stefanspirit100]

How is Hydraloop sustainable? Just look into the amount of labor and parts that go into just one device, than think about instillation. Communal water treatment plants are the way to go, not individual ones. When will we learn that we thrive in groups, and not as individuals?

[@greetingsearthlingspluto6666]

Just like Hollyweird, the tech industry can only do reruns.

[@Fgtfv567]

Why did the razer kishi take the gaming award instead of alienware's concept UFO??? That was way cooler and was much more versatile

[@giuseppepapari8870]

If the smart grill was the best in its category, I do not want to imagine what the rest was...

[@naeemahmad9340]

The best one I seen was Toyota and Uber

[@anhangukin8130]

You mean Hyundai and Uber?

[@naeemahmad9340]

Oppa Latino yeah that’s what I meant but cba to write that

[@batboy3746]

OMG, that Hydroloop is an awesome idea. Need to research how that works.

[@fadis5068]

Does anyone know if Hydraloop is part of a bigger company or is it just them?

[@ghostbirdofprey]

Hydraloop seems to be a solution in search of a problem. This thing only produces reclaimed water which is EXACTLY the same thing that a municipal sewage treatment plant does, except those can then send the water to farms and other places for use in irrigation (by far the greatest users of water). If it produced potable water, that would be great, but since it can't, you're better off with a regular grey water system that waters the lawn and flushes toilets with the water from your sink, shower and washer, and letting the city deal with the actual sewage, and, since you're already spending money to replumb your house, install a hot water recirculation system so you don't have to run the faucet waiting for hot water; that actually DOES save water rather than these reuse solutions. and then you'll have something like $3800 left for doing other stuff to improve your environmental footprint because grey water systems are a tank, a pump and a filter because they only have to deal with soap and dirt.

[@jaydeekeejdk3418]

She must be paying a lot for water bills...

[@Admiral_Jezza]

Yeah it would really only make sense in CA or the Rich Arab countries.

[@sridharyarlagadda7730]

I think they could also give honorable mentions

[@mathieusenechal3874]

Thank you for all these unbelievable innovations but, how much have you been paid by Hydraloop for this video ?

[@doslover]

The Hydraloop is a great idea! Needs some awareness and ideally some subsidies to make it more affordable.

[@colincampbell767]

Anything that needs subsides isn't a good idea. With the exception of when you want excess production capacities to deal with crisis situations. (The reason we have farm subsidies is to ensure that we produce so much food that there will still be enough if there's massive crop failures.)

[@doslover]

I don't know about that, I'd say that it helped with adoption of electric cars, smart thermostats and likely other things I'm not aware of. In this case I feel it'd be important for water conservation in some areas but too expensive for most people to consider adopting it on their own. Subsidies (if I'm using the right term) might not be the right answer but I feel like it's a good enough idea to push in one way or another

[@divyangvaidya1999]

Well worth it this year.

[@gogorichie]

Wait sooo 30 seconds in and I'm not sure where the show took place this year 🙃

[@Steve-ph9md]

*I think the intro was recorded on the iPhone 11 pro like ngl.*

[@IThee-hw8oj]

Hydraloop some questions: 1) What are the energy costs of hydraloop on a yearly basis. I don't hear anything about that. 2) Maintanance costs (what's low?) on a annual base? 2) You need to install 2 seperate waterpipes (gray/clean). Extra costs. 3) A washing machine use about 50ltr per wash. Price € 0,15/50ltr. A toilet €0,01-0,03/flush. Return of invest of a hydraloop?? Sorry... i don't see the benefit..... certainly not moneywise....

[@cecillegontinas1793]

My project in ICT brought me here huhuhu

[@wehkfam5680]

I'm glad there are smart hearing aids but I think I saw two within a couple minutes in different categories with no discernable difference between the products.

[@GregPeden]

The intro couldn't be more self-indulgent.

[@old_newbie9498]

I realize these "best of" are always subjective, but these picks were bewildering at best, from the stuff I saw at CES. For accessibility, How about Delta's (the airline company) powerloading full(!) exoskeleton ala Aliens? For Health and fitness, a company made the first ever 'portable' MRI machine, and you picked yet another smart watch? As an avid BBQer, ive been using bluetooth connected BBQ temp sensors for a few years now, nothing really innovative there (your connected home pick for Weber is actually behind the times). Too many others to name. Shouldve just did a video on hydraloop as best overall and left it at that.

[@c0pyimitati0n]

How much will the Phonak Virto Black cost?

[@GF_Burke]

.... Well.. at least we have ShotShow 2020 to look forward to. Because, damn.

[@tagheuerwoods6241]

In-house water recycler from Hydraloop seems mental to me

[@shaun6828]

Hydroloop looks like the least likely to be popular.... Popularizing grey water recycling is a great idea, but implementation of a system like that is going to cost way more than most people would be willing to pay... The simplest grey water recycling product I've ever seen, was a bathroom sink over the toilet tank. Super simple, inexpensive concept that could be added to any home. Japanese of course... Why haven't I ever seen it in the US???

[@kamaracso]

Come on it's 2020! where are the self driving flying cars?

[@1SmokingLizard]

I"m sorry but this not being uploaded by Engadget in 4K resolution is atrocious. It is 2020.....you are a tech news outlet, so let's use it!

[@jamesboone14]

First of all,.. Hydraloop makes no sense to me. I don't think there is any recycling of water. It sounds like an additional water tank, or auxiliary water storage system. Its like saying, you can recycle the food you eat so that you can eat it a second time. Food goes in, food comes out. Water goes in, water comes out, and eventually goes down the drain and away from your house. The end.

[@techbysoup]

Kishi looks dope but having to take off your phone case everytime would be a hassle

[@TheMarkKnight146]

Did u really just leave out the mercedes vision avtr? Are u out of ur mind?

[@ascentraland9264]

I was shown an ad 2 seconds before the video ended lol

[@TienHuynh5312]

I wish they could make a machine that can exercise for me so i dont have to go to the gym

[@ManasChachra]

T H why do u even wake up in the morning,just buy a bed that has wheels🖕😪

[@RalfStephan]

Liked because you like Hydraloop.

[@billdoor6803]

what's the name of the song, starting from 4:40?

[@DeusexmachinaChutzpahSipahiAsh]

Where do we get the opening music?

[@salmanahmad9402]

Which game is being played at 6:24 ?

[@jeremyrobinson3399]

Nice roundup of a very good CES show.

[@misusatriyo]

One of the better CES

[@ChicagoTurtle1]

How about making a CES Environment Award 🥇??

[@houfame]

The best of CES 2020 and not a mention of NREAL glasses. Your best is not the best and certainly not the most exciting!

[@Ooochild]

So how is Hydraloop different than any other gray water recyclers?

[@colincampbell767]

Probably that it actually meets building codes. (Most grey water systems use the waste water for irrigation - which is forbidden by most cities sanitation codes.)

[@sdbszz706]

I can appreciate what Hydroloop is trying to do but in reality, looking at my water bill, it leaves me wanting more. Simple math: I pay about $65 for water every 2 months. That’s about $390 a year. Take 40% of that, and you get $156. Now take the full price of hydroloop, about $4500 after taxes, and divide that by $156. It will take almost 29 years to break even. My Trane furnace doesn’t last that long. I know the tech will improve with time, but unless your waterbill is over $200+ a month, I don’t see a need to jump on board. And even at $200, you got a decade before you break even. But I guess any attempt at helping the planet can’t be frowned on.

[@sdbszz706]

Ahoy Schip you’re right, I didn’t think about water shortages. But, all over the world isn’t realistic considering this thing costs thousands. So it basically leaves California only.