The BEST PHILOSOPHY in Anime | Vinland Saga Discussion

[@stopplzs]

This is honestly one of the best analysis I’ve seen for the anime

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you! : D

[@stopplzs]

ProfessorViral Thank you for making such a wonderful video. I never even thought how the main 3 connect back to Thors’ idea of a true warrior. It also made me realize how it’s consistent with one of the core themes of finding a greater purpose. Have you read the manga btw? If you haven’t, you’d love the arc after the prologue, even more philosophy and introspection

[@ProfessorViral]

No problem, I just loved what they did and wanted to discuss it a bit more, thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed! I sadly haven't read it yet, but I've heard so many good things, and would love to see what happens next! Its tiring waiting for season 2 T_T

[@arcaneknight9799]

Thors embodies unbiased love best, as he traded 8 sheep for a dying man just to comfort him with the dream of Vinland. He is a slave to his own true warrior philosophy. Thors was a true warrior, but only in his final moments... As that is when he truly threw away his sword forever. Askeladd is a slave to the idea of Artorius. Thors was the closest thing to Artorius he'd ever met, but his Danish side won out over his Welsh side... But he was serious when he wanted Thors to be their leader, and it bothered him that he killed Thors. Askeladd didn't love unbiasedly, as he put Wales above all else (including his own life). Askeladd is characterized by self hatred... Truly a lone wolf who lost everything as a slave to his duty to his biased love for his people. Still, death did perfect Askeladd, as he finally became Artorius. Askeladd never became a true warrior, but he understood what it meant due to Thors... And he wanted that, in his dying moments, for Thorfinn. Canute is a slave to the crown. Even before becoming king, he had to be cautious about what he said, so he remained timid and silent. Canute finally understood unbiased love thanks to Willibald, but he resented God for abandoning mankind. His goal of creating paradise on Earth will lead to many sacrifices, so he picks up the sword (via his armies) and uses violence to achieve his goals when necessary. Despite wanting peace, he remains a slave to the crown and fails to become a true warrior. Thorfinn is the man who freed himself from the curse of revenge, became a true warrior, and practiced unbiased love. Still, he's a slave to the dream of peace that is Vinland and will be perfected in death only.

[@ClumsyShoulders]

Thank you so much for explaining the “love” to me in this occasion

[@stained0023]

So can we say that idealism is basically slavery to some idea

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

I found Cnut's development ironic, considering IRL Cnut was widely known to be a very pious and devout Catholic. Simple fact is, post-modern philosophy is just that, something done for us to relate to, not something to be representative of past reality. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoO9eWuHr6ijhJY I like what Thors was getting at, when he changed his ways, was basically what St Augustine said: "Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.”

[@ProfessorViral]

I wish I had known of the St Augustine quote while I was making this, but I suppose that's down to me for not reading up as much as I should have. I also remember reading that he was quite different IRL than in the anime, including some direction they make take him in the future based on perception over time with his legacy. But, we'll have to see. Thanks for bringing some more detail to light! : D

[@Hybridman7]

Thanks for discussing this series, it's the main reason why I watched the first season recently. Definitely worth it as far as I'm concerned!

[@Stefane976]

This is the best analysis of Vinland Saga, i've ever seen so far. You can elaborate more when the main story begin. I can't wait for it...

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you! : D I'm holding my breathe for season two, this is one of my only two 10/10 anime!

[@Stefane976]

​@@ProfessorViral What is the other ?

[@TheJamesTish]

Ahh, class analysis in anime. Good work!!

[@samcalleja3420]

This is a good video on ideas talked about in vinland saga honestly when i first saw this show it made question my own ideas on people and life for the better and im just glad more people recognize canutes idea on going against the normal and creating your own path and also realising that even the people farthest from paradise deserve love

[@ProfessorViral]

Thanks! I'm happy to bring attention to the interesting ideas in the anime, I understand why they resonate with people, if you get into it it's good stuff!

[@BeTheIron]

The philosophy is actually very simple, in concept. It's just drawing from historical Christian philosophy that fuses all three themes into one Person: Christ. He is the Warrior who conquers the kingdom of darkness, the one who chose to become a Slave/Servant on behalf of humanity (Philippians 2), and the One who loved the world so much that He entered into it to Die in their place so that humanity might live through Him. The show purposefully makes these Scriptural references in order to draw out very standard Christian philosophy. It's wonderfully done!

[@kendra_t]

I love that season 2 directly quoted Matthew 5:43-48 " You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. " Which ties into what Wilibald was asking Askeladd's men in season 1. -though Wilibald is a bit of a Doomer about it

[@a.kedits8720]

I think that if everyone follows the philosophy of Thor this world should be a better place

[@ProfessorViral]

It likely would be, that's what makes his arc so sad

[@yurkdawg]

Great video! When thinking about the philosophy of this show, I honed in more on the "You have no enemies" concept, which I found to be a beautiful and simple idea that most people (including myself) never really considered. Thinking of everyone you meet and associate with as a potential is an all too common, but ultimately cursed way to live life. It's like the way I look at evolution in general: sure survival is the core of our existence at it's root, but the kill or be killed, fight or die, everything is a competition for existence is no way to find lasting happiness for everyone concerned. (Even the "happiness" for the victor is usually temporary.) Oh one other note: I find the "everyone is a slave to something" concept (which is analogous to what I just discussed) extremely similar to Kenny's speech in "Attack on Titan," in fact it is one of the core themes of that show. I'm curious -i just found your channel so maybe I missed it, but I've seen and loved practically all of the shows on your channel. But I don't see anything on that show. Are you just avoiding it because it has been discussed ad nauseam? If you haven't seen it, or gave up on it early making the erroneous assumption that it seems like a simplistic fight-die battle shonen, I implore you to give it another chance, as it eventually becomes one of the most philosophically complex shows ever created.

[@thebestreviewers]

I’m also really into philosophy. I made a video about Thorfinn’s philosophy. I would love to here your thoughts in a video on the ending of Vinland Saga season 2

[@JotaP1n]

It’s ironic how Floki plotted to kill Thors because to his eyes his a traitor, a bad example for his army and someone unacceptable in Vikings culture (beinghis best man in the pasr) by the hand of a man like Askeladd who at the end is revealed that truly hates vikings culture and main goal is protect Wales from viking’s invasion. So he ordered to killed a loyal viking who the only thing he wanted was a peaceful life by a man who in secretly wished to destroy vikings.

[@jaj7989]

I really enjoyed your breakdown of this anime! I think the monk and the prince have a very Kierkegaardian view on love

[@jlinus7251]

Hohohoho! Can't wait for you to see season two Canute! 😏

[@ProfessorViral]

I've had some of the basics of his change spoiled for me, but I'm excited to see how/why/what it plays out like

[@jlinus7251]

@@ProfessorViral Oh what? That sucks! Ah well, I'm not going to say anything more, just that Canute becomes even more interesting and so does Thorfinn. It's a genuinely good character arc but of course you can't expect any less better writing from Vinland Saga

[@CaffeinatedIce]

You don’t even have to look at “season 2” Canute to find out that Canute is indeed called Canute the Great, but also a brutal and draconic king who would do anything to achieve what needed to be done for his “paradise on earth”

[@jimmyneutron3282]

I have not read or seen it but I imagine he abandons God to create heaven on earth and ends up creating something closer to hell.

[@mohammedjafer9265]

Reminds me of the Phoaroh who opposed prophet Moses (a.s) as he claimed to be God and can control death and life and have heaven and hellfire in his hands trying to create a heaven in earth only to get disgraced from God none shall challenge God for it is only foolish of them.

[@Ch-ew9tm]

I agree with most things said in Vinland Saga except that God never intervenes and should be judged by this. I think he gave us a gift that differentiates us from animals. We can make our own choices. If they are good are bad are up to us. We will be judged for our deeds, but he offers us forgiveness. It is up to us if we accept his offer of forgiveness or not. Amen, Amen.

[@kenmak4672]

I like your video! I reli love ur explanation and the view on things. Just one thing tho, maybe u can speak a bit faster and use some clips in anime to attract more people? I am sure u will grow big someday!

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you! I've been debating trying to use clips, but previous times when I tried the videos were always claimed. I think I found a work around for it, so sometime soon videos may switch over the clip-based, but I'm not 100% sure. As for speaking faster thats much more maybe, I naturally smash all my words together, so I have to slow myself down to be understood outside of my area 😂 But I appreciate the feedback, and your confidence in me, so thank you! :D

[@shashankke250]

One of the best videos. Afterall we are slaves of something, just are masters keep changing 🤔. One who breaks from this slavery is punished or is being tested wether he is worthy was being a free man?

[@k-ondoomer]

I saw this based on your top anime list and was skeptical due to western media turning vikings into nothing more than a meme. This was one of the most profound and moving things I've ever seen. 10/10

[@zelianwaeckerle5292]

Hey, you miss a lot of thing I still try to understand about Askellad. A whole part of its dev is made at the end and in the small moments in which you learn about his love for Britania. Is he a slave to its Ideals ? If so, then he remained enchained.

[@bahmet6928]

then who is unchained?

[@Capo_4L]

Amazing video bro

[@ProfessorViral]

Thank you!

[@beastvicious8672]

You forgot Thorkell's philosophy. Just have fun!

[@ProfessorViral]

I should have mentioned him a bit more, even if to just lighten the mood. But, there is something to be said about his "enlightenment" as well!

[@beastvicious8672]

@ Yeah, that's true. Thought i'd change it up a bit. I remember you too, it's been awhile!

[@beastvicious8672]

@ Thank you! Hope you're doing well too, through all that's happened this year! I was already a fan since episode 1. The series just keeps getting better with each chapter, it's become my favorite series by now. Definitely is getting more depressing too, there's no easy solution. The show's themes has been twisted around in a way that makes everyone justifiable. It's just phenomenal imo! Hopefully the anime will do it justice. You think the show has gotten better or worse?

[@beastvicious8672]

@ Eren and Reiner are my favorite characters of the show as well! Great thing about Eren is he didn't change his attitude really, he just got a different target. The chapters with Reiner reminded me of how broken Guts was after the eclipse. Really hope he gets to have some redemption before it ends! I disagree about S3 - part 1 of the anime. They messed it up imo, by changing a lot of things. Wasn't a fan of how they skipped scenes and changed the order of certain events. But other than that, the anime has been amazing for the most part! There's actually a video on the "parasyte" that Ymir got in contact with. It's pretty interesting. You can check it out if you want? "The Organism Inside The Tree REVEALED | Attack On Titan Theory (Shingeki No Kyojin)" kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4uVlp-QituIldk&ab_channel=MangaHorse

[@kekero540]

those who strive for something greater lose nothing when they begin, as they never had anything before that point.

[@nqubekomthiyane6558]

Thank you for this.

[@ProfessorViral]

No problem, thank you for watching! : D

[@lllMacBethlll]

canute is the endpoint? WHY? explain?! why isnt thors the endpoint? why hasnt thors reached the endpoint of love? think deeper? in my view, canute instantly changed his direction to WAR, first against his father who wished him dead anyway. second against all who are not with him! wich is .... LOVE? or can it be a brutal ruler over the world, like history shows us? in his thinking, hes head on with god, he casts him out, and now HE decides what is dying worth for. under him, there can be no free man.

[@plotarmour1471]

did canute become villain?

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

​@@plotarmour1471 No, he became just like another other human of our species, flawed and in trying to bring utopia into the earth, he'll learn that he cannot forcibly change the hearts of men using wisdom, power, or knowledge. Only through innocence and grace practiced by all will utopia ever be created

[@weebdeity7310]

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