The Best Pot Size for Growing Tomatoes??? (Big or Small)

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Diego Footer

Diego Footer

2 жыл бұрын

What is the best size pot to use when potting up tomato seedlings? I grew four tomato plants in four different size pots to see which one grew the best. Different pot sizes have pros and cons. Which one is best for tomatoes when going from a cell tray to a larger pot? Watch and see. Get 6-cell Trays: paperpot.co/product/epic-6-ce...
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@tcwaterdrill
@tcwaterdrill 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up 60 years ago, my dad had a green house and we had a garden about 5 acres for family to come and pick. Dad found out if you grew the tomatoe plants in the green house untill they were about 10 inches tall, that we would lose a lots of them trying to keep them watered when it was dry. We went to about 4 inch tall plants and had a better return and growth rate because the plant for some reason would just jump once being transplanted in the field.Dad decided the shock that the larger plant took, took longer for them to overcome.
@ganymededarling
@ganymededarling 7 ай бұрын
I was literally just wondering how big a tomato plant should be before it goes outside. Thank you for sharing your dad's wisdom!
@titanlurch
@titanlurch 2 жыл бұрын
Last year I started tomato seeds in a hydroponic germination system I developed. At 3 inches tall I moved them into 3 to 4 inch pots to harden off for a week before planting directly in the ground. They grew rapidly and produced abundantly in compost rich raised beds.
@brianseybert2189
@brianseybert2189 2 жыл бұрын
I am coming to the same conclusion on transplanting large VS small tomato plants. My 4" tomato plants not only caught up with, but some of them out performed the transplants that were up to 32" tall. I am going to switch up my potting mix this year. The last two years I purchased potting mixes, peat moss, coco choir added blood and bone meal, everything has done well. Then you plant them in your soil and it takes a while for the soil biology to get started on the root systems. This year I am not spending a dime on anything. I produced over 50 gallons of finished leaf mold and my worms have given me about 15 gallons of very high quality worm castings. these will be the main ingredients in my potting soil, then when my plants go out into the garden they will find similar and more soil biology to welcome them. At least that's the plan.
@larrymckinley5399
@larrymckinley5399 2 жыл бұрын
Your experimental approach to gardening is very helpful. This potting up experiment was very interesting. But I found your recommendations to be even more helpful. However, I was disappointed that you did not take the experiment all the way to harvest. Last year I started more tomato seedlings than I needed. After giving away most of the excess, I still had 6 puny Roma seedlings that I was too embarrassed to give to friends. Instead of trashing them, I stuck them in a new spot with lousy soil. I was amazed at how much they produced. Diego, how about an experiment on how seedling size affects productivity?
@chesterhobbs7244
@chesterhobbs7244 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to each of your videos. Always informative, right to the point, no fluff. Here in Texas, zone 8A.
@missarcene4345
@missarcene4345 Жыл бұрын
I subscribed. I appreciate how clearly you explain things.
@trendinvestor2893
@trendinvestor2893 2 жыл бұрын
After watching your video, I am thinking about using soda bottles. Using a one liter or 2 liter soda bottle would give good long roots while not taking up a huge amount of space under my grow lights. I would get the benefits of a large pot and not take up a huge amount of space. I will probably go straight from the small 6 packs right up to 2 liter bottles. My main problem is that I very rarely ever drink soda. I guess I need to start asking around to get get some bottles within a few months.
@dianepurcell4993
@dianepurcell4993 2 ай бұрын
Would like to know what type of pot you recommend for someone who will be growing on a deck rather than in a garden!
@canadiangemstones7636
@canadiangemstones7636 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting experimentation, you do good work. Thanks!
@imonittonite
@imonittonite 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic info. Just what I needed to know.
@ButterflyLullabyLtd
@ButterflyLullabyLtd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant video. I'm sharing with my small gardening group and Dad. I've just killed approx 6 tomato seedlings because they were too leggy so I repotted. Only one survived. I'm trying your method now. I thought about potting in bigger pots so thank you so much for making this wonderful video. Greatly appreciated. ☘️🦋🐝☘️
@prettyblack1248
@prettyblack1248 26 күн бұрын
I’m outside planting tomatoes in a bigger container. So glad I came across your video.
@yooperlooper
@yooperlooper Жыл бұрын
Very informative and practical. On our small patio I'm going to use a smaller pot for my grape tomato plants. Thanks!!!
@SARJENT.
@SARJENT. 2 жыл бұрын
Kool vid. I usually seed in solo cups then go to 1 or 2 gal pots. I skip the cells all together. The cells with plugs are better though. I find them to be a hassle with filling with soil, seeding, and removing plants. Then I transplant into the ground or into 30 to 100 gal pots. 20 was the smallest pot that seem to give me good results with tomatoes. All are fabric pots. Plastic stretch wrap like the stuff from U-Haul can be used to help prevent the pots from drying out. Place wrap at the bottom. Bands can be wrapped around the pot in addition to the bottom. Coco coir can be used to help your potting mix go further and help with water retention etc. I have found that transplant difficulties can be reduced with transplanting at the right time to ensure sufficient root mass exists and using a good heavy shovel for the huge hole. In addition, I have noticed that soil type and moisture can increase or decrease transplant difficulties. I have found that larger medium sized are easiest to transplant. Have you used the trans planter pot from Smart Pot? They make removing the root ball simple; however, they cost more than solo cups or 1-2 gal nursery pots. I'm excited for more testing videos.
@MamaGypsyFelice
@MamaGypsyFelice Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video information ☺️
@clivesconundrumgarden
@clivesconundrumgarden 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really appreciate your observations and perspective!! To my eye the biggest pot definitely looks the healthiest in color and shape. I'd worry about the long term health of the smaller 1's due root disturbance when transplanted. Just my observation and obviously depends on your situation. Climate is a big consideration in Canada. Definitely will play around with it this year!! Cheers
@charissay7668
@charissay7668 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but what if i want to keep my tomatoes in the pot?? I have 2 kinds of tomatoes, Cherry and Beef...
@FrontYardGardener
@FrontYardGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, thanks!
@Bluexin_
@Bluexin_ 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting ! Especially the part about not potting up at all. I would still pot them up because colder climate so I'd rather have them grow for longer inside to get a headstart on the season. I'm also wondering what the results would be if you let them go for longer (maybe to grow tomatoes in containers, not going in the ground at all)
@doncook3584
@doncook3584 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always. Home gardener who uses soil blocks then 4” pot to harden off then stick em in the ground with caterpillar tunnel standing by.
@toddmain
@toddmain 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Diego! I like the idea of the 5 inch (or so) pot. The resulting plant is spindly, but so what? I'm going to either bury it deep or sideways in a trench anyway so that I'll get more root growth. I also like the 30 days direct to ground model, but I probably won't do that unless I have a cold frame or low hoop tunnel, just in case.
@lisaaustin1042
@lisaaustin1042 2 жыл бұрын
@ 11:33. "I am really into these types of things". I can relate. :) Thanks for sharing. My question is, if I were growing in containers rather than the ground, what size container would give a tomato plant optimal conditions throughout the growing season.
@trishaminer3289
@trishaminer3289 Жыл бұрын
Suuuuuuuuuch a good video. Thank you so much!
@K3Flyguy
@K3Flyguy 2 жыл бұрын
I pot up 30 days + - into my garden. I just put a cage around them and wrap the cage with plastic shrink wrap for a greenhouse kind of thing. I wait a bit longer to be certain of interesting weather and it all works. I am in south eastern Wisconsin so frost dates are important.
@EarlybirdFarmSC
@EarlybirdFarmSC 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I am like you, I think transplanting straight to the ground and not potting up is best. Can't wait to see that comparison. Thanks, D I E G O.
@PIESvcs
@PIESvcs 2 жыл бұрын
Using flats/trays in the John Jeavons method ("How to grow more vegetables") produces a stronger seedling with less inputs in my opinion. Seed at 1 inch spacings, prick out to two inch spacings in a deeper, tray from free pallets. Best dollar value. The challenge is always the hardening off / planting out. I still think best results are to stay smaller in diameter and deeper. Old one quart milk containers were perfect back in the day when we used paper packaging. So I like the person's idea of the soda bottles, even if they are cut down. Not as pretty on a video, but what are we trying to achieve. Sometimes the old ideas (how to grow more with less) trump preferences for convenience (the busy people mandate). Look at all the cylindrical vessels that are thrown away and 'upcycle'?
@DiegoFooter
@DiegoFooter 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good point. I am a big fan of JJ. I just can’t get behind the whole pricking out thing. It takes so much time. That being said if you have the time and enjoy it. 👍
@moonhunter9993
@moonhunter9993 2 жыл бұрын
I find the 5L common sized bucket works best for me. The Tomato plants can get really big and give me loads of tomatoes. I've tried smaller pots but it just wasn't worth the trouble.
@dhiaaeddinetahiir6437
@dhiaaeddinetahiir6437 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I will try with tomatoes and peppers and beans🌱
@HsingSun
@HsingSun 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. Question: Can you get tomatoes for just using one gallon pot?
@tezzi2544
@tezzi2544 10 ай бұрын
My tomatoes are in a pot very similar to the orange pot you use. They seem to have hit a growth stunt, the tomatoes have bloomed but are taking a long time to grow larger and ripen. I'm watering 2-4 times a day and it's been a very hot and sunny summer. I'm wondering if I need to pot up or if they've received too much sun.
@LtPinback
@LtPinback 2 жыл бұрын
This year I did not pot up. A freak cold night killed all but one tomato. Then replacement seedlings got almost decimated by slugs and snails due to their small size. So while it is more work to pot up it gives you more control and flexility over the plants and when and how to plant them on their final destination.
@heavensplayer
@heavensplayer Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I’d be so sad wtf lol
@billmoody9736
@billmoody9736 2 жыл бұрын
I love the experiments - in fact thats why I subscribed - I want to know whats best from experimentation; not from - this is what I do
@chantallachance4905
@chantallachance4905 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Quebec Canada zone 5 few years ago, I let some tomatoes 🍅 on the ground in the homemade greenhouse no heat and in the outdoor garden I start tomatoes seed in my house When the SOIL temperature reach 10 Celsius the seed germ the tomatoes seed growing outside it grow more rapidly and it was more resistant At autumn I put some different fresh tomatoes only on the soil with a sign for free tomatoes 🍅 plant next year I do the same with different lettuce Free vegetables year after year Less job PS: this year I buy tomatoes seed of small tomatoes plant 24 inches I will have more tomatoes for my urban garden and more quickly than a big plant First Expérience
@Naomisuchit
@Naomisuchit 2 жыл бұрын
Can you not put two or three plants in a larger pot?
@marcelgieles3408
@marcelgieles3408 2 жыл бұрын
We are forced to pot up because we would otherwise only have a season of 5 months for tomatoes outside. One adventage is that you can bury the stem to make sure the roots can find more water and nutrients.
@djchiesa3567
@djchiesa3567 Жыл бұрын
(1) Best way to stake tomatoes (long wire fencing panel? classic tomato wire cages for each individual plant? wooden stake? or just let the plant lie on the ground?) (2) best way to water tomatoes (simple water hose? 25' soaker hose? irrigation drip rows?). I've yet to find the perfect way of staking/holding up my tomatoes for optimal production. Seems the classic round wire tomato cages are too weak and will fall over. (3) how tall should your tomato plant become? (4) how wide should the tomato plant be? IN SUMMARY FOR OPTIMAL tomatoes production how to hold up plant, how to water, best height, best width?
@TOPMOSTPOP
@TOPMOSTPOP Жыл бұрын
I am thinkimg chicken wire pit lined with forest leaves, half filled forest soil. Roots dont wind around thsuffocating plastic sides bcuz sides dry more ideally. Same reason cloth pots offer advamtages? Thats th hope...
@TOPMOSTPOP
@TOPMOSTPOP Жыл бұрын
Excllnt video
@JustItisWhatItis
@JustItisWhatItis 2 жыл бұрын
I like bit pots and I can't not lie 🎵
@ervandemgmachanyan901
@ervandemgmachanyan901 2 күн бұрын
my dad says it’s not good to keep your plants in a pot, tomato doesn’t like small places is that true?
@stealth007007
@stealth007007 Ай бұрын
Can I put a tomato plant into a large container and never put it in the ground and still get good fruit?
@gooutsideeveryday2017
@gooutsideeveryday2017 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that potting up didn't lead to better growth could mean, as you say, that potting up isn't necessary. It could also mean that potting isnt necessary. The limiting factor could be the pot itself. Many plants determine reproductive efforts at or soon after germination.
@DevouringWhiteSpider
@DevouringWhiteSpider 7 ай бұрын
I like using ollas for my tomatoes.
@godlesschannel7730
@godlesschannel7730 2 жыл бұрын
yeah but what is the required (optimal) pot size if i want to fruit them in the pot? i rarely plant tomatoes outside
@DiegoFooter
@DiegoFooter 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Not my area of expertise. I would guess it has to be 10 gallons or larger though.
@batkat0
@batkat0 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the tomato type but I've gotten a ton of cherries and pear tomatoes from pots that were under 5gal. My larger tomatoes did not do as well. Next season I'm upgrading. You can definitely get a good yield from potted tomatoes if you pick the right cultivars. Though my pots did go outside permanently when the weather was right.
@persadsanjay
@persadsanjay Жыл бұрын
I progressively increase my pot size when transplanting. If I put in in a giant pot from a seedling such as a 5 gallon, it doesn't grow well
@surferdude-ll2qu
@surferdude-ll2qu 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great experiment! I did the same experiment and came to the same conclusion. I feel validated 👍🏻
@markm1514
@markm1514 2 жыл бұрын
5 gallon pot means digging a 6-7 gallon hole, which means more soil disturbance, and I wouldn't be surprised if the smaller transplants did better over time.
@acctsys
@acctsys 2 жыл бұрын
Large enough for long enough to build strength to thrive in the ground. Convenient to take care of and transplant.
@redlilwitchy6088
@redlilwitchy6088 2 ай бұрын
💚
@charlienatera467
@charlienatera467 2 жыл бұрын
Have you used the Johnson su extract
@DiegoFooter
@DiegoFooter 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@charlienatera467
@charlienatera467 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiegoFooter do you think you will make a extract
@VanillaAttila
@VanillaAttila 2 жыл бұрын
Square pots that are deeper are better especially with tomatoes in my opinion. ~2x as tall as wide. Square pots can save space
@mking3219
@mking3219 2 жыл бұрын
I start in 1020's, then they go in red solo cups with slits in the bottom, buried up to their first nodes
@heavensplayer
@heavensplayer Жыл бұрын
I was about to put it into a 5 gal lmao
@reneemcgeough8527
@reneemcgeough8527 2 жыл бұрын
I love the video, but please give the tomatoes a trellis 😁🙃
@BestConsignment
@BestConsignment 2 жыл бұрын
That's one side of the equation: foliage. What about yield please?
@davidsawyer1599
@davidsawyer1599 2 жыл бұрын
Too too lazy for all that transfer of seedings. Direct sow and thin. Essentially end up with more plants. Storage of pots blah, blah, blah. Thanks Diego.
@stanleylove8058
@stanleylove8058 2 жыл бұрын
Talks to much
@TOPMOSTPOP
@TOPMOSTPOP Жыл бұрын
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