The BEST Ram 1500 Leveling Kit | Installed at CJC Off Road | Jay Flat Out

[@michaelahr1]

Thanks to Jay and his videos I have bought Carli Leveling Kit for 2015 Ram 2500 HD with Radius Arms, Torsion Sway Bar, Track Bar, Radius Arm Drop Brackets. I loved it so much I wanted MORE! Installing this week the Carli Backcountry with Fox External Reservoirs and two weeks from now I am removing a AEV 3" Dualsport SC kit (GARBAGE) on my brothers 2016 Ram 2500 HD and installing the Carli Pintop Kit with King shocks. Jay is the real deal guys, I started my builds after watching his videos to learn what to do, how to do it right and can't thank Jay enough for his videos as he is honest and his opinion is real, one that we can all relate to! I also order my parts from CJC Offroad and the are the best!

[@JayFlatOut]

What an awesome comment thanks for the kind words man. Glad you got a sweet kit for your 2500!

[@sandywarner2262]

I need one now, which site is the best to purchase?

[@rscottrogers22]

Overpriced

[@michaelahr1]

@@rscottrogers22 You are welcome to put some spacers in and grab some rancho shocks. Jay sticks with quality and improving over stock which does cost money, there are a million cheaper ways to lift and level a truck which all make the truck drive and ride like junk so feel free to go budget.

[@rscottrogers22]

@@michaelahr1 Many ways that are $2000 or less that provide the same quality or better. But, you go ahead and blow your wad.

[@jiujitsu94]

My leveling kit was $75. My 2008 Ram currently has 174,500 miles on it. Runs great, looks great. No issues whatsoever.

[@theurbanartist775]

Omaha Wellness my level kit made my tires wear even.

[@montyhuff8278]

Heard that 75$ or 400o$ same shit

[@michaelschiotis2426]

Yeah well the whole idea of the Carli is to have some fun off road. If you to merely lift your truck and stare at it than you are good to go with what you have.

[@adventureswithw.o.t.canada1204]

Wheel alignment ​@@theurbanartist775

[@brandonvaughn7753]

I want to clear something up to the people watching this. Putting a strut spacer or a performance adjustable strut that is longer than factory will chance the angle of the joints in your suspension. So the only difference between a strut spacer and a performance strut is the ride quality. What makes a good vs bad lift/level is anything over a factory height needs to be accommodated by a longer control arm. This makes it where the angle of the pivot points in your suspension stay the same. Also remember to get a allotment after adjusting anything on your suspension. Doing this will make your tires wear properly, your truck drive like it should, and your suspension lasting for the long haul!

[@philscott9405]

dude, bilstein adjustables, 6-800 installed alignment included. ride is perfect. all that glitter your putting on is if your going to beat the hell out of your truck off roading every weekend. bilstein has a more affordable for that too.

[@JsGarage]

Had Fox 2.0 Coils and rear shocks on my 15' F150 loved them. I think most people stand to benefit a lot from that shock setup and it comes at a pretty reasonable around $1k price tag for all corners. Really only need to go beyond that if you just want to brag about something or plan to regularly put them to work off pavement. Going to run the Fox 2.0 on my Ram as well. King is good shit too but it is my opinion that you should regularly play off-road at higher speeds to get the most out of the more robust king setup shown here. I have a Jeep I spend more time off road with. Fox also makes more robust options than the 2.0 shown as does ICON suspension. There are some really nice options out there for more trucks.

[@Bendertrickster]

I just hit up CJC yesterday. Should be installing the Carli commuter system on my rebel soon I’m stoked. Great vid man and awesome house!

[@jeffisonify]

This may be a dumb question...how are the longer coil overs any different from spacers in how they affect the geometry of the front end? They are both adding 2 inches of distance in between the upper and lower mounts. I understand that a coil over is going to be a higher quality option than a spacer on top of the factory strut, I just don’t see how they are any better in terms of geometry.

[@JayFlatOut]

+Jeff & Alison Choate replacing the upper control arm after either kit is what effects the geometry

[@BiggMo]

Biggest difference/benefit is the added travel you don’t get with the spacer - IMO, unless you drive aggressively, the difference is negligible

[@jeremygendreau5576]

Jay, but Are the arms truly necessary if I'm not looking for travel? Say with the fox coilovers

[@e.a.r.9155]

Reservoired King Coilovers are for daily drivers around here.. Desert or no Desert. (So. Cal.)

[@yourfriendlyneighbor6501]

I got these on my Ram Rebel and they are great on road and off road. It does take small jumps quite well. Great build Jay!

[@JayFlatOut]

Thanks buddy, you made a great choice on your truck. Have you had any problem with the air ride working with these?

[@yourfriendlyneighbor6501]

Jay Flat Out I live in Canada and the air suspension doesn't like the cold at all. At 65000 km the compressor failed so I decided to get something better for it. I do miss the adjustability of the air suspension.

[@FC-eb6zs]

Your friendly neighbor what exactly did you do to the truck? I have a rebel and want to get rid of the air ride.

[@markmelnichuk5556]

Did you buy the performance 1500 package? I have a 17' rebel and was wondering if u added anything else to the kit unless u didn't? Im trying to get rid of air.

[@APECK636]

I have the $60 dollar kit from rough country on my ram, i am at 73k miles nothing wrong with it, I would never spend that kind of money for a leveling kit.

[@JayFlatOut]

It's not the same thing though lmao

[@APECK636]

Jay Flat Out I have 33s with 20x12s and the cheap leveling kit rides good even with mud tires I've had the kit for 40,000miles already, for over 3 grand for 2.5" is Fucking insane I don't care how smooth it rides haha, might as well get a 6" lift.

[@RDFAIXAAZUL]

APECK. Save up $1100 and put some fox 2.0 or Bilstein 6112 and you'll be glad you did. I had my new truck a month with spacers and replaced them with 6112. The ride is like butter. I hit speed bumps and float over without feeling it through the frame like spacers. You won't regret it

[@jackwsandoz]

Totally get what you're saying, can't beat a spacer if all you wanna do is clear bigger tires. For anything that you plan to really have fun in the dirt with though, there's just no way of getting around putting real money into suspension. Unfortunately, beating on the cheap stuff gets just as expensive in my experience.

[@APECK636]

Jack Sandoz I mostly drive street, the 60$ options works okay. And with the mileage I'm at on my truck il be at 100k by end of next year so no point to drop 1000s into it, maybe when I buy my next truck I will spend somemoney. Lol.

[@williamtarr9758]

Great vid man getting a 2.5 inch on my 05 tomorrow along with 33's

[@Tony67032]

with the adjustables shock,coil pretty much you are doing the same as with the spacer , compressing the coil to give a lift and if you dont replace the upper control arm on the kit you bought you will have the same problem as with the spacer , in correcting the geometry of it

[@Tony67032]

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[@mthlaxer]

definitely need this king kit for my '12 ram 1500 express

[@mitchellkeo4084]

looks badass...getting my ecodiesel leveled as i type

[@lloydgaynor7947]

I were thought fox kit is the best i don't know what to believe anymore.

[@prestoisakilla813]

yeah spacers dont mess with the geometry...your control arm mounting points arent moving. the distance from the top of the shock tower to the upper & lower control arms arent moving the same with spacers and shocks. the only thing that may suffer is ride quality.... but even then youre not asking for any more travel or compression from the spring....

[@jdmac8584]

4k for that 😂 they all have that 2 inch spacers on top

[@guy10117]

Exactly what I was thinking. I guess some people just like giving away their money

[@CoreyGrey]

You’re all idiots

[@AnthonyGman]

Lmao idiots

[@Gen3ralGrimReaper]

🤣🤣 white people

[@netsurfers9357]

It would make sense to put your money into electric running boards and a canopy... 4-5 thousand on a leveling kit is way over budget, considering what I paid for a new truck to begin with (56,000). I can see when the suspension gets older to think about it, but not when your vehicle is new! Not to mention that some models have air bags now.

[@drinny23la4]

Not everything aftermarket will be better than stock, OEM parts will almost always be the best for your vehicle. 90% of the time aftermarket part will give you problems with something minor usually, I been there & done that. But I am interested in knowing if he still has this truck with that same suspension & if it had given him any issues at all.......hope he responds back to me.

[@ColossusD]

What’s up jay!! Great video content you’ve been putting out bro, I got my first Dodge ever is an oldie 96 but only has 87k original miles runs good and all I’ve learned so much off you videos when it comes to leveling I feel well equipped to get it done now! Thanks again for all the videos my man. I’m actually going to start one soon on the build of my dodge 2500!

[@JayFlatOut]

Thanks for the comment man glad you are enjoying the videos!

[@jackwsandoz]

Pretty excited to watch this new build, glad to see you're going all out with it. The guys at CJC are best of the best.

[@JayFlatOut]

Haha yea this one is going to be 100%! thanks for the support and showing CJC love

[@ATC235]

Yea sorry. The U connect 8.4. I seen people add a Tesla style touch display. I was looking at changing mine out. So if you where thinking of doing yours, then I would wait lol thanks again

[@JayFlatOut]

+ATC235 I’ll look into it, seems like a pain in the ass though

[@ATC235]

Jay Flat Out K maybe you can do a short video on options you looked into but chose not to do. Thanks

[@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605]

I have a 2015 EcoDiesel and I installed the (zone) upper control arms and fox shocks and springs 3 years ago..The Zone upper control arm has the proper Angle For the 2-inch height lift beefy bushings and grease fitting for upper ball joints also and has great customer service over the phone..

[@popwall4297]

unless you're going to be doing a lot of desert racing at high speeds you don't need this you're just wasting your money go with the spacer just don't get carried away stay with the 2 in 2 1/2 in and everything will be cool

[@thirdgearboogie2210]

What are your Wheel and Tire specs. Looking to do something similar on my Ram 1500. I like the offset that you have.

[@thesrtsuperb8e627]

Kings are way overkill for 95 percent of buyers, I would only recommend them if it’s a full time off-road vehicle, in fact most people would be just fine with Bilstein 5100 struts if they do a mix of on road and off-road driving. Fox coilovers are a solid option but for entry level coil overs I would take icon over fox any day of the week

[@aaronespejo4221]

I have a 2019 Ram 1500. I don't off road, I just want the truck to look good, what do you recommend?

[@thesrtsuperb8e627]

@@aaronespejo4221 if your going for looks, I would just get 5100s all around or 6112s up front and 5100s in the back. From there you can equip some aftermarket upper control arms and have them powder coated whatever color you like. If your running big tires, most people aren’t gonna see the strut body anyway, they will only see the upper control arm.

[@gamingsasquatch3357]

I have Stock 1500 5.7L with 75000 on it and deciding to modify. I love the way that looked on your Ram, I may have to follow suit and get one. If you gonna do it, do it right the first time right, XD. Want to know opinions on At 100,000 Miles when Motor Warranty wears off, putting in a Whipple Twin Screw Supercharger?

[@JayFlatOut]

+Bryan Perry has honestly you’d be lucky to make it to 110k supercharging one haha

[@jasonb.7152]

Jay did you not have to get the carli rear track bar drop bracket to correct your truck at from being on too much of an angle with the setup? I just installed the bilstein 6100 all the way around on my 1500 with zone upper control arms and the same carli sway bar links and linear tripple rate rear coils as you. The rear of my truck gained about 3 in lift and my track bar angle is on an extreme angle which opted me to order the carli track bar drop bracket and adjustable track bar from CJC. I am waiting on it to arrive now. Thanks

[@samueljoe9675]

I got my truck brand new they put 2,5 leveling kit in my front right tire rubs. 35 on. 20 in rims

[@JayFlatOut]

I want those size rims

[@WBOS72]

For that kind of money I would of lifted with Xone/BDS.

[@matthewdoan8206]

Was it editing or did you leave the stock rear swaybar links? i thought they were suppose to be replaced? @ 6:33 when he lowered the car it looked like the stock links

[@Jaycat48]

When you were taking it off the lift it looked like it still had the stock end links on it. Did the new ones not fit?

[@anthonymcanly9088]

I have a 2017 Ram and am looking to level mine. I’m also looking into purchasing a travel trailer. Does the rear spring and shock kit eliminate the need to install any type of air suspension?

[@mylesswann530]

It'd be nice to see some decent level and lift options for Rwd rams. I'm thinking if going to a yard to salvage the front suspension linkages of a 4x4 just to be able to level it with out spacers and to be able to choose between more suspension systems.

[@JayFlatOut]

they ave 2wd options

[@mylesswann530]

link? the front suspension linkages are different on RWD i have to slide my dampers up underneath the lower CA

[@jerrymarble214]

I think you should’ve went with chrome rims it would’ve mix with the truck better

[@manuelzamora9288]

dude, i just bought a 2014 1500 eco diesel, that I am planning lifting. one thing I will say, unless you are planning on doing some serious off roading, I do not see the benefit of getting the kings. Yes they are more then likley the best but, WAY over kill for the street . I am going Bilsteins.

[@christopherlaverde5097]

This may sound like a stupid question but I just went from a 06 Cummins to a 2018 ram 1500 and wanted to know does this system give the truck a little better payload capacity? I know after I lifted my 06 cummins with the fox 2.0 the payload seemed much better as it didn't squat as much with the same load

[@moneymikeoc5875]

Can you use the factory upper control arms with the kings 2.5?

[@MrDutch1e]

Anything that lifts the suspension is going to throw the geometry of the suspension out lol. Upper and lowers are still going to sit in the same spot whether using spacer or aftermarket coil/shock assembly.

[@jettjensen4902]

Jay, does these rear coils and shocks help towing stability and capacity?

[@matthewmoreno9278]

I love my ecodiesel, I loved it more after Ram payed me out in my lemon law case

[@Chaps183]

Please enlighten me on how installing these is NOT messing with the geometry? I'ts basically the factory shock with the spacer. I'ts not changing the knuckle, ball joint/control arm angle, its not dropping the front diff resulting in not changing the CV shaft angle. It's the exact same as installing a spacer.

[@blaineday3]

About to buy the FOX 2.0, but having them adjust it to 2.5". Should I have them adjust it, or keep it as is for best ride quality? They told me the ride would be more firm in the front if the adjustment is made

[@JayFlatOut]

Who is they?

[@blaineday3]

@@JayFlatOut CJC Offroad

[@JoshuaBurton110213]

Will they work for the pentastar 1500?

[@tupelomississippiflash968]

Mopar makes a leveling kit . does not void any warranty. Have it put on at your local dodge dealer by a factory mopar tech. I did. And didnt cost me anything close to what this dude paid.

[@dfrgarage1348]

This channel deserves way more followers then it has. Another great video🤙🏼

[@JayFlatOut]

+david flores one day man, thanks for the nice words

[@danieltillman7847]

Amazing video all around jay

[@JayFlatOut]

Thanks buddy enjoy the radar detector

[@randyd2660]

Man I would have figured you would go back to 4 wheel parts! Lol Very nice setup you have there looks real nice 👍

[@JayFlatOut]

Haha man I had almost blocked that horrific experience out of my memory. Thanks for watching for so long :)

[@JayFlatOut]

Haha man I had almost blocked that horrific experience out of my memory. Thanks for watching for so long :)

[@trevorsapp5215]

what size wheel and tire package do you have rocking on that 1500 any for of rubbing or any need to cut or been.

[@JayFlatOut]

Watch the video....

[@EricTassler]

Was just researching Kings/Fox 2.5s for my EcoDiesel. Great video, looking forward to updates.

[@Blast0245]

What sizes are your wheels and tires?

[@Joe---]

Nice, I'm going to take my Pro4X to CJC. thanks

[@JayFlatOut]

No problem let me know if you need anything bud

[@Joe---]

Jay Flat Out for sizzle, thanks.

[@toddhefer5809]

It's looks so clean bro God Bless:)

[@JayFlatOut]

+Todd Hefer thanks Todd!

[@Quon6810]

Nice but should’ve just used chrome rims

[@cambamb80]

Just purchased a 2019 Ram 1500 2wd new body style and I plan to put on a 2.5 front leveling kit with 35x12.5 tires on 18x9 wheels! Does anyone have any knowledge as to if this would cause any rubbing? If so what can be done to combat that issue? Also, will I absolutely need to purchase to control arms? And why? (First time truck buyer & first time dealing with large wheels/tires and any type of leveling kit)

[@007Knightjp]

What does the suspension upgrade do to the payload and tow rating of the truck. Does the lift kit maintain the payload rating? Also I like the factory rake in the suspension. So if I was to have a lift kit that was 2" all round, would that be OK?

[@thegreatempire3882]

Could I just use Bilstein 6112 struts and call it good?

[@ATC235]

Have you ever looked at going with a air suspension setup? Just thought I would ask and see if you had any thoughts. Thanks

[@JayFlatOut]

+ATC235 no not really my thing. You can get factory air suspension on this truck though.

[@sandline793]

Whats your mpg after installing the kit?

[@JEFF-jq4qt]

But what do i use for my 2wd 😮‍💨

[@ATC235]

LOOKS AWESOME. What tires did you go with? And why? Thanks

[@JayFlatOut]

BFG K02 - I had the Nitto Ridge Grappler on my last truck and they were crap, only lasted 4k miles. These were the number 1 recommendation for a great all terrain and the rubber compound they use pairs really well with the weight of the EcoDiesel for longevity sake.

[@mballer4562]

Did you get your rims and tires from them are you running 33’s?

[@sbjennings99]

Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls

[@mattdaniel2395]

Does the 2 inch level or 2.5 truly level it out? I domt want the front to be higher when i get mine. Thank you

[@robman422]

Is this for 2 Wheel Or 4x4

[@renejohnson4733]

Hey bro have a question for you have a 2003 Dodge Ram 2 wheel drive I just want to level it off I don't really want to do anything else want to take the slumping front end and level it all what is the best way to do it and what do you recommend I do not do any off-roading but I just want to have that nice level look

[@atlasraptor9322]

What the best kit you can do for the Air Suspense 2019 Ram 1500? im still searching when i purchase the truck was was under the impression i could leave my setting at 2 inch. you can not the system will lower your truck also when it at 2in and your driving slow you can feel the rough and bounce it has. realing thinking about removing the air suspense set up?

[@davebridges6130]

What size wheels and tires are you running?

[@johnsn10]

Is that Carson daily?

[@timmytool1231]

My 2014 1500 came stock with a suspension kit, it has three settings. The problem is when traveling over 35mph it lowers back down. I can easily by pass it, but not sure if it's advised. Would love to know if I can just keep it lifted, or do I need to lift it then have an alignment done?

[@Hotdog_pimpin]

Thays nice n all or I can buy a 2.5 inch leveling kit for my ram for 100 bucks off Amazon

[@mikel.laughridge9480]

Thanks! What about the Pentastar v6 ? 1500 Ram 2014

[@JayFlatOut]

What about it?

[@mikel.laughridge9480]

@@JayFlatOut What about it?? You said The perfect way to lift or level your Ram 1500 Hemi or Ecodiesel you've come to right place. I was wondering if there was a reason the v6 Pentastar was not mentioned for some reason. I'am looking to buy a level kit.

[@motorhead_jt21]

How tall is your truck with this setup? Does it clear a 6’8” parking garage clearance???

[@JayFlatOut]

Just barely I think 6’7 is the bare minimum

[@johnnyo923]

What's your total ride height?

[@robskater94]

Would it be safe to add some 1.5" rear coil spacers with a 2" level in the front?

[@JayFlatOut]

I never recommended spacers

[@canadaplace2be176]

No mentioning 5.7 hemi. Does it work for that best motor they have. Eco. If u want best u should not have eco desil. Having proplems with that motor. 5.7 hemi is the one u need. And u never mentioned it??

[@ad78]

Ill get plastic tubing, probably will cost $1. I have air suspension and i want just the front only. Rebel 2018 here

[@dcchris-311]

What about the bilstein 6112 kit with 5160s in the rear?

[@BiggMo]

Truck sits funny now (IMO). Front is higher than back, like your hauling something heavy -

[@marcmclellan5124]

Go on Google and type in "Cali Truck Swag"

[@ShotsbyNerio]

What rims and tires are those

[@CarlosRodriguez-vg2ob]

hi , can leveling only be done on a 4x4 or can i also do it on a 4x2 without causing any issues?

[@RamblinGarage]

"The spacers mess with the geometry. Look at these expensive brands with spacers at the top!"

[@RamblinGarage]

@@CaptainLetsGo good one.

[@sylermran]

they do but what he also did was get new control arms where the actual geometry is so they are fine now, but too much money for my tastes XD

[@benson2506]

What do you think of the icon stage 4 or 5 setup? Seems very comparable and a little cheaper?

[@bdub7359]

If you do more research on them the digressive (Icon) dampening is significantly rougher than the linear-style (Fox/King). This results in a firmer-ride when traveling under 35, too firm for most people not going balls to the wall off road. accutuneoffroad.com/articles/digressive-vs-linear-vs-progressive-pistons-shock-valving/

[@jamesperry1944]

Can't wait until I need tires so I can get these bad boys out on at the same time.

[@kellymccoy6705]

what's the wheel and tire sizes are you using?

[@michaelmucha3185]

Wow, awesome build! I’m looking to pick up an eco diesel in the near future. Is your truck egg shell white or a pearl white? Thanks

[@JayFlatOut]

This is a pearl white, I believe it's standard with the Laramie trim. If you want a comparison I have a 3500 also on this channel that is egg shell white.

[@shanejet2261]

Time to grab a 19' ram to dial in. That things vintage already

[@frankie123fr]

Can you still tow the same maximum capacity as before ?

[@nandiito]

Dammn but $3250 for just a leveling kit? What about Bilstein 6112 with springs + adding those upper control arms? Do you have a link for those control arms?

[@alexsj5790]

nandiito tires and rims are expensive!

[@hermarj2688]

What wheels are those? Whats the offset?

[@jrock702]

Nice! That suspension set up with the wheels looks perfect! Nice job....

[@JayFlatOut]

Thanks Jrock! Still haven’t seen you around yet haha

[@jrock702]

I'm sure i will run into you at some point or we can arrange a meeting sometime. I reached out to you a few weeks back but didn't get a response. I'm usually available on thursdays and fridays. If you ever need any help shooting on those days don't hesitate to ask I think i live within a few miles of you. Keep up the good work!

[@brianhammond2560]

Just curious though. RC offers the leveling kit that comes with the upper control arms to correct the geometry. They offer the extended struts that eliminate the spacers and rear shocks for just over $800. The kit in your video offers the struts with springs, beefier sway bar links, for over $1800 and I don't even know yet what theyre getting for the upper control arms. Kind of scared to ask. $500 for the pair? I'm guessing. Is it $1500 better? Just seems pricey but I"M still shopping. Havent ruled out this kit but I am curious about the cost of the upper control arms for a 2015 ram 1500 4x4

[@JayFlatOut]

+Brian Hammond the uppers from Carli are MSRP at $800 I believe. You get what you pay for.

[@rokkero564]

Why did you go with 20x10s instead of 20x12s?

[@Monsterguy702]

Is your truck 4x4 or 2wd

[@cwooley88]

Any opinion on the Billstein leveling shocks, in comparison?

[@JayFlatOut]

No comparison, The fox kit in the link in the bio is a cheaper alternative. I have a video about Fox vs Bilstein on the channel - They aren't bad they just are valved for a wide variety of applications, whereas these kits are tuned specifically for the truck you have which make the ride incomparable.

[@RDFAIXAAZUL]

I have the Bilstein 6112 and 5160 on my 2017 1500 4x4. I'm very happy with the setup. I'm hoping to get UCA and rear coils soon.

[@RDFAIXAAZUL]

Macho Man 99% trucks out there are street queen's including yours. Guaranteed.

[@jeffdrivesdmv]

Hey awesome review is there anything like on the east coast like MARYlAND for instance that can do this type of work?

[@austinharrold8763]

Will the king suspension 2.5 that u got on your truck will it still work with the 2015 eco Diesel that has the air suspension or what would I have to get for it

[@JayFlatOut]

I don't have the air bags

[@austinharrold8763]

Jay Flat Out ok thanks for the reply do u happen to know if it would still work with the air ride suspension, Love your truck by the way

[@JayFlatOut]

hit up www.cjcoffroad.com their phone number is on the site Cody or Cole will be able to give you a definite answer my friend.

[@austinharrold8763]

Jay Flat Out ok awesome thank you sir

[@ethannorth1312]

Hey jay, is this kit or the fox 2.0 offered by cjc off-road void the warrantee, if you know by chance? I also have a 2018 eco diesel. Thanks man

[@JayFlatOut]

No it won’t void warranty

[@ethannorth1312]

Jay Flat Out that’s one hell of a slick ride!

[@ElTerrible666]

Nice components. Agree on it being pricey.

[@JayFlatOut]

Worth it though the ride is out of this world

[@KevinQuintana]

What kind of rims and tires are those?