I'm beyond thankful I came across this video. I was about to buy the level kit spacers from RC but yeah.... not anymore. Great video!!!
@aaronisenhower23892 жыл бұрын
I’ve spent thousands trying to remediate this issue. Thousands man. I appreciate you making this video.
@daveo38972 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation of the issue. Heard a lot of dont's from others, however, never saw the actual resulting damage. Good job! Thanks
@Patriot-US1776 Жыл бұрын
Buddy that was one of the best videos I've watched on KZbin explaining in detail with no gimmicks and crazy music and cutaways that I've watched. Just straight to the point, I've got a 2013 Dodge ram and it's having this same issue and I've even got a third party warranty to cover it but the full wheel parts people that I take it to they all tell me the same thing that these people will fight with them tooth and nail to get you the cheapest crap and they usually get stuff off of Amazon it's that cheap to fix just one of the spacers
@thorvallie1495 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown on how and why spacers aren't the best idea.
@Baldysyoutubechannel2 жыл бұрын
I added the spacers to make room for a slightly larger tire on my ram 1500. It was inexpensive and tons of people raved about them. Problem is, that that elation is short lived. It starts to squeak and there is no solving it. My spacer had wear just like the one he is showing in the video. All the shavings were on top of the shock too. I then learned about lifting struts and upper control arms. No more squeaky suspension and a much better ride. Way better ride. Rough country, Bilstein and others make them.
@Baldysyoutubechannel Жыл бұрын
Update. Months later still no squeaking an the ride is outstanding. Get the UCA and lifting strut.
@nightwizper93457 ай бұрын
Did you get the 2" with the struts or the 3" lift? Which brand you got, Rough country?
@milan2k113 ай бұрын
Nice. Are there any for the v6 rwd 2021 ram 1500?@@Baldysyoutubechannel
@Baldysyoutubechannel2 ай бұрын
@@nightwizper9345 2” Rough Country.
@Baldysyoutubechannel2 ай бұрын
@@milan2k11 I’m sure they have them.
@MrMandala1111 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of what is really going on there. I would also like to add that levelling spacer's are NOT the issue, it's the crappy design of this one that was at fault as you explained. Also when retaining the stock struts you need to install longer bump stops to prevent the struts bottoming out. New aftermarket UCA's are alway's a good add on as well. Oh one more thing, those adjustable strut's are causing a lot of people grief too with a harsher ride. The problem arises when you try to get a bit too much lift from them, with more lift you get more coil pre load. More pre load = harsher ride on road and less suspension compression offroad. Coil spring's progressively get stiffer with more compression, load rating increases.
@Javii967 ай бұрын
Can you explain what you mean by more coil pre-load? What i think you are saying is “when you set the struts to a higher lift, the coil is more compressed”. Is that right?
@godliket50922 жыл бұрын
Hope you do more stuff and get a larger following. I'm sick of seeing companies promote spacer lifts and even most of the 3"lifts claiming comfortable ride out of 5 vehicles in my life I've put a level lift on and very quickly realized spacer lifts are the worst thing for your vehicle. Very excellent explanation you went through here that I've literally never seen anyone else do. Everyone just promotes the crap out of trash leveling kits to make a quick buck
@suprtrucker74862 жыл бұрын
So I stumbled over this video before install and was gonna send the spacers back. I could see how the center rubber bit needs to be sandwiched or it will blow out eventually like yours. I did the install anyway but added a .60 plate below the spacer. It Pretty easy to make. Trace them out on plate steel/aluminum and cut them out. Made the holes for bolts(not evenly spaced!) After a month they look solid and no noises. Hope this helps someone.
@thecentenosfamily2 жыл бұрын
How is it holding I was thinking the same thing. To just add a plate and it should work.
@suprtrucker74862 жыл бұрын
@@thecentenosfamily Its been over 3 months now and they are holding up well. No heavy off roading but I think they will stand up long term. The leveled look is much better than factory.
@thecentenosfamily2 жыл бұрын
Any problems with the plate? Yet
@suprtrucker74862 жыл бұрын
No problems at all with it.
@drtone2 жыл бұрын
A correctly made spacer works.
@LN-wt9ft2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video… you saved me a load of problems… and thanks for giving the proper way to achieve leveling.
@Cloth_Gloves2 жыл бұрын
If you buy a proper spacer kit. You don't have these issues
@SM-ob5zw2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I didn’t know that. After a bit of looking I found that for $350 RC makes a leveling strut.
@prentissmoses48678 ай бұрын
So glad I saw your video before I put the exact same type of spacers on my Ram 😮
@lloydgaynor79472 жыл бұрын
Wow i was planning of install spacers on my truck until I run in this video i change my mind in a 360 degree thank you very much sir awesome video.
@hexdlr96282 жыл бұрын
360 degree huh…
@rogervillanueva85042 жыл бұрын
@@hexdlr9628 lol
@bdanielcal460810 ай бұрын
Have 2.5 inch spacers on my ram and had no issues 3 years later ....I would recommend strongly to get the car alignment right after and no issues
@waynetime3962 Жыл бұрын
Now I know and knowing is half the battle.
@HWYHOG1 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I didn’t like the idea of a spacer now I definitely don’t.
@chilillopikin2 жыл бұрын
excellent video, i was damaging balljoints in my 2003 1500 ram and now i know why. i decided to order lift spindles instead and remove the useless spacers. thanks!!
@carlosesparza8591 Жыл бұрын
Any recommendations? Can’t find any for my ‘05
@stanrock8015 Жыл бұрын
not just all that. if your wearing ball joints need control arms.
@kanaletumlinson Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you! I will stay away from spacer lift and now I can see why my buddy’s Tundra is making all kinds of noises on the right side lol
@CryptoManiac17762 жыл бұрын
Great video. Don’t cheap out people. Those bilsteins are not even very exspensive.
@02altima022 жыл бұрын
Explains all the squeaking I'm having. Thanks
@dustingiberson57492 жыл бұрын
My 2 inch works fine, no problems what so ever. I wouldn't go over 2.5 and I have ready lift control arms
@thesrtsuperb8e627 Жыл бұрын
I bought some 2.5 inch spacers for the front, but I only plan on keeping them in there for a few months until I can put on some Bilstein 5100s. However I agree that in the long run, spacers are not the way to go!
@riccodog12 жыл бұрын
100% correct, but nobody cares. In this County it's not about doing it right, it's about doing it cheap/easy. Never going to change that!
@Co0o0rN Жыл бұрын
Okay Richard
@jadestarr7153 Жыл бұрын
Cynical much ?
@nauidiver227 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing your speaking for all teenagers. We do things right in the USA, you're just a dumbas
@JoseJimenez-xp2ym Жыл бұрын
3yrs now driving my Ram 1500 with motofob 2.5 leveling and any issues at all, and factory upper control arms. Now Im going to upgrade my tires to a bigger size, and upgrade my UCA.
@Miguelangelesco701 Жыл бұрын
You had it on for 6 years of course it’s gonna be all worn out 😂
@OffroadCpl2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 pr on different trucks for years never had a issue. But with that said I do check them every oil change make sure they are tight.
@Pudi1224 Жыл бұрын
So glad I watched this before applying a lift
@billsublett5172 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the result for doing it wrong... that answer a lot my questions...
@calebniederhofer6529 Жыл бұрын
You used a factory strut and level lol. That has never been recommended, but I did see you mention it in the video. I have a loaded strut Rough Country myself, and it rides as good, or better then stock. I have the N3 loaded in the front, and V2 in the rear. Yea, anything over 2inches, and you would need to upgrade the upper control arms.
@lonelybikr2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. This video really should have more views.
@stevenbouchie521 Жыл бұрын
Hence why the hole is so big
@Cloth_Gloves2 жыл бұрын
If you buy a proper spacer level (or lift) kit, you shouldn't have these issues. Readylift is one that comes to mind
@andyrbush2 жыл бұрын
Yep there are always potential hidden issue with simple fixes.
@casperaudi7476 Жыл бұрын
Spacer are not being use on the front spacer are being use in the rear to level the truck up nicely
@spherevil Жыл бұрын
great information ... thanks Alex Lifeson (Rush) .. I mean Stanley LOL :)
@michaelmendillo7513 Жыл бұрын
Very happy I seen this,,,TY Sir,! 😎✌
@chasebar Жыл бұрын
Just depends on the level kit you get. You get what you pay for. No issues with my Ready Lift 2 inch level kit with upgraded upper control arms. Stay away from those chinese ebay cheapies and youll be fine.
@Defossion1 Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation! Thank you.
@joeyisachannelnow5057 Жыл бұрын
I really feel like this whole video was a humble brag I went from a $50 2-in leveling kit to oh this is a much better $1,000 2-in kit obviously if price isn't of concern everybody's going to go for it fox, Kings or Bilstein next video name about this topic I can't believe the expensive ones didn't last lol
@stevenbouchie521 Жыл бұрын
I got to tell you something that's probably going to hurt your feelings that rubber bushing goes on top of the spacer Mount Not underneath how special do you feel now thanks for telling me how to install something backwards🎉
@carl16760 Жыл бұрын
its back...done both ways...strut lift then spacer life...your wrong Stan. You stress the shit out of the springs doing this. With 5100 up 5 notches the front sat down lower on the left side to. With spacers the truck is way closer to level left to right. the ride is softer and have yet to see if the pinging is gone when the front end drops all the way out.
@speedsoft1015 Жыл бұрын
Leveling spacers are perfectly fine if you get good quality ones
@jkgkjgkijk Жыл бұрын
Back it up with facts
@hithere35989 ай бұрын
very very informative thank you
@Chugg.Norris8 ай бұрын
You got 12 welders behind you and can't think to weld a flat plate matching profile with a smaller hole to the spacer... fixes at least 1 issue you talk about.
@kwb377Ай бұрын
"fixes at least 1 issue you talk about" Yeah, "fixes" the issue...kinda like a Band-Aid fixes a gunshot wound.
@joshthompson1755 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid man.
@TrustNone352 жыл бұрын
So the million dollar question- what is the price difference? Honestly if I can get a spacer and have it installed for a couple hundred bucks I would do that. I highly doubt I will keep any vehicle for over 5 years anyway.
@bobbyjeangayheart3602 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video. Thank you.
@watajob2 жыл бұрын
Or, find a spacer with a smaller hole.
@thomasewing5283 Жыл бұрын
You are correct sir I just recently put a 3.5 inch rough country left with the preloaded struts best thing I've ever done
@patb5266 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks! I wonder what the Mopar kit looks like as I saw one listed in a brochure at the dealership.
@WARDofLORE8 ай бұрын
Spacers in 2 trucks. Over 100,000km (60,00miles) and NOT a single issue. Running 305/55/20s. Wait... they are FORDs.. No wonder. P.O.S Ram. You get what you pay for...
@ragman70 Жыл бұрын
So pleased to see this before I looked into levelling the cheap route !! I have a 2008 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4(stock 20 inch A/W tires). I want to do this right. What brands would you suggest to give me a nice level 3-4 inch front lift(2 inch rear ?) with lifted struts?
@Pudi1224 Жыл бұрын
I'm also interested in knowing some good brands / products for aftermarket rims that can tow, A/T tires more favourable to highway driving, 1.5 - 2 inch lift on my 2022 Ram 1500 Sport.
@riccochettv8638 Жыл бұрын
I got a RC lift and it lowered my front end.. the rear is higher now and I don’t like it. I have to add spacers
@michaelwhitaker35917 ай бұрын
when you lift a truck with spacers at 100,000, that is going to happen.
@kennethhuff71582 жыл бұрын
Have a 95 Ram 2500 and was thinking about leveling it out with spacers now I'm thinking maybe not. Tks.
@70DMac Жыл бұрын
So in 5 years you can just buy new struts. What's the big deal. In 5 years or so, you will have to replace the other struts as well. I had spacers on my Jeep Grand Cherokee for 5 years without any issues at all. In your 5 years, how much abuse and milage did you put your truck through?
@crunklescrunkles44252 жыл бұрын
Should you swap the upper control arms to help with the ball joint issue or not necessarily
@godliket50922 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't be necessary unless going over 3 inches but with a 2 inch level or lift, you could expect the front ball joints to wear out sooner than they are expected ( not by alot though usually) and when it's time for them to be changed I would say go ahead and get some designed for a little bit of lift. Don't forget your lowers too though. It's not just the uppers that get affected
@timl1761 Жыл бұрын
So, I’m a machinist. If I was gonna machine my own spacers. How big would the hole have to be to not allow it to move around
@carl16760 Жыл бұрын
yeah we played this game. the struts ping when the front end drops out a lot and rapid. going back to zero on the dam strut right now and adding Motofabs 2.5 inch lift spacer to give back the full travel of the dam strut. already have Bilsteins b12 rear coils on a 2020 new style Ram. Mike from Mumblys here in southeast Michigan just went through this with a Jeep. how do you expect to take 2 inches of the travel off the extension stroke. now instead of 7 up 7 down....now you got 9 up and 5 down...
@Solja1435 Жыл бұрын
I have a 6 inch lift on my 08 dodge 1500. What size lift strut would you recommend??
@nickwhitaker35402 жыл бұрын
so you bought cheap spacers and ran them for 6 years and are mad that some of your suspension components wore out? i dont get the point of this video, the rubber bushings will wear over time no matter what, especially over the span of 6 years
@Italianborn2 жыл бұрын
Lol, my friend that shock will end it up exactly like the spacers.. i know cause i got 60k out of it and now rough ride and vibration as well..
@gedwardmackie26242 жыл бұрын
What brand shock is the new one . I've bought the spacers but now . Prefer the shock. 2013 dodge ram 1500 tradesman
@thruitallauto25382 жыл бұрын
No leveling is good, it throws your ball joint at a bad angles, need to at least get a lift with the angle correct top A arm
@seanharris7372 Жыл бұрын
How does a 2" lift strut change stress on the ball joint? 2" spacer or 2" lifted strut is still going to put the same angle on it
@justinprichard64832 жыл бұрын
I found a spacer from fab tech where the hole is the same size as factory and it’s only 2” do you think I will have problems if I have the same size hole as factory? Basically eliminating the problem of the bushing coming up into the spacer hole causing wear?
@milan2k113 ай бұрын
I was going to install the RC spacers but now I'm not sure. What sturts work for a v6 rwd 2021 ram 1500?i was told the RC n3 struts are not compatible with v6 models? Which ones are? Thanks
@TerryDickerson29 Жыл бұрын
I replaced my struts and shocks with Billsteins and now I have squeaking, any ideas why?
@timothycooper19652 жыл бұрын
Can we have the strut brand and part number and the spring specs thank you your video was completely helpful thanks for the correct information
@stanleytownsdin47172 жыл бұрын
This is the link to Shock Surplus where I purchased the shocks front and rear. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-6112-strut-spring-rear-b8-5100-shocks-set-for-2009-2018-ram-1500-4wd-w-0-2-8-lift
@TheSolidus9092 жыл бұрын
Whats that product called? Can you put a link on where to get it
So what do I do to raise the front of my truck, it has shocks not struts.
@barbellsandbuckets2476 Жыл бұрын
Can I install the Ready Lift SST 3.5 inch lift and the Bilstein coilover shocks to my 1500 Ram?
@taxidutta1022 жыл бұрын
I am lil confused. When a vehicle is lifted 2", the centre of gravity increases. So there are roll over risks. The spacers help in reducing the centre of gravity and making the drives safe esp during hardcore offroad drives like sand dunes, etc Pls correct me if i am wrong. Secondly, in your case when you have eliminated the spacer from the new suspension, how will you mitigate the rollover risks?
@darbycrash552 жыл бұрын
You are basically contradicting yourself and answering your question at the same time.
@donearl6675 Жыл бұрын
😲😲...👍👍
@menotyou7762 Жыл бұрын
Best advice in the world, just don't use spacers. Don't be cheap save your dough and get Bilstein adjustable. Spacers are for muppets and gay boyz
@Baldysyoutubechannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have is very issue. Should i also install a new upper control arm too with the new strut?
@stanleytownsdin47172 жыл бұрын
If your factory control arm feels in good shape and you don’t feel any play in it I would reuse it.
@atallcost3107Ай бұрын
What is recommended for a 2019 classic 2wd?
@swisskyokushinkaikan Жыл бұрын
So I see the shock is bilstein but what spring is that ?
@gonefishing46042 жыл бұрын
Anything that cost $70 for a truck when it comes lifts is going to fail.
@stevemarx26916 ай бұрын
You have a link for those struts?
@KippysNippys2 жыл бұрын
Do I need new UCAs with a 2” strut lift?
@rubher852 жыл бұрын
all this talk about the wear and tear of 6YEARS OF USE and blaming it on the spacer??? you expect stock shocks to last you that long?? coming around like you discovered something new by using lift shocks hahaha
@joe75282 жыл бұрын
Can i share your video on 4th gen Facebook group ?
@stanleytownsdin47172 жыл бұрын
Feel free to share the video.
@joe75282 жыл бұрын
@@stanleytownsdin4717 thank you ... i shared it on my Facebook page
@--emt2 жыл бұрын
Is any update how those bilstein work with that truck. I have the same truck how is the ride quality is it firm or like factory?
@AverageArms2 жыл бұрын
He's not bolting in the top hats so I'm 100% sure he's having the same issues as his video... The spacer was not his issue, the issue was installer error...
@--emt2 жыл бұрын
@@AverageArms what are "top hats " any links to read more about this?
@AverageArms2 жыл бұрын
@@--emt the part with the 3 studs/bolts sticking out that has the rubber bushing he's talking about. The strut/shock shaft goes through it and than a nut goes on top of it making it one unit. Kind of like how you see coilovers just that it won't be adjustable. He clearly installed it witout a nut holding it all together creating his problems
@--emt2 жыл бұрын
@@AverageArms o ok I didn't see him assemble the new one but clearly there was no bolt on the old 1.
@LeviRice2 жыл бұрын
He's not kidding the puck leveling kits suck
@tylerclonetooper2 жыл бұрын
Tsk tsk
@anthonyifeanyichukwu22772 жыл бұрын
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@Moment2Forever2 жыл бұрын
Never understood the reason why people want leveling to begin with