The Best Starter Jet In War Thunder: F-80A

[@Spitflyer]

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[@romanluckett833]

No

[@masarutas]

My first jet was a Yikes-15, back when the NS-23s were as effective as sparklers.

[@Swat_Dennis]

I just love Spit climbing from the runway, even though any and all jets are straight up better energy converters when their speed is higher

[@Spitflyer]

It’s the same reason why you climb in Russian props despite them performing better at low altitude. Energy is energy

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@Spitflyer Yeah but I think what he was saying is that you’d get to the same altitude much faster by zoom climbing rather than just climbing. Jet engines put out more thrust the faster they’re going because the air speed helps the compressor stage be more efficient.

[@actually5004]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy Which would make a zoom climb just as bad due to the loss of airspeed, just climb at a higher steady IAS would be the best- accelerate to over 500 before even starting to pitch up to maintain that speed in the climb.

[@Swat_Dennis]

@@actually5004 Great username! Bullet said it better than I could. If you go 600 IAS and climb at a 15* you end up at 3-4 km a lot faster and still have 500 IAS. Now Spit is going 300 IAS and stays at 300 IAS the entire duration of the climb, aka he is literally throwing energy away due to the jet being inefficient

[@drybeans0000]

p80 pilot with 600 matches here the best range of angle to climb is 5-10 degrees as far as i have experimented on

[@Sevastous]

I wish this f-80a gameplay had some footage against su-11's, I know how to beat them but it is frustrating to find one pilot who is half decent and lets the plane carry itself

[@DELTAREDGHOST]

You cant beat a an average pilot in an su11 it just doesnt work

[@vesical7952]

su 11 turns into a brick at 450mph+ take advantage of it turn inside come up and BAM@@DELTAREDGHOST

[@spyous7884]

except the repair cost... Edit: Since when did this become the highest comment on this video?

[@jonas_k.123]

Git gud

[@susixi7250]

yep, even the sabre has like a 17k repair cost

[@bosermann4963]

@@jonas_k.123 yeah, the servers brainfarting you into the runway at the start of a match is totally a skill issue.

[@Helios2-2]

@@jonas_k.123 yes 18,000 sl is a totally reasonable repair cost for a 7.0

[@sancfireactual307]

Gayjim loves to fuck American tech tree players out of SL.

[@-45-17]

What if you, wanted to play your first jet and learn, but gaijin said, "11k+ repair cost for half of the planes"

[@t-rexcamp9090]

But wait there's more the f-80c-10 gets a very cool 19k repair cost and 12mm guns against missiles afterburner 20mm guns hordes of German players and the odd time you get a downteir you fight sweaty spitfires all around my most played plane would harass a mig 9 again

[@bensonfitch6697]

Try GRB! You don’t fight all the best fighters, so you can actually make a profit, you destroy some CAS, and you get some practice/upgrades.

[@masterchief6739]

I reported to this video after getting almost no kills after my first 5 games and just realized my teammates are all stupid, dying early and leaving me to get gangbanged by 7 other planes at once

[@Ryzawa]

I remember loving this jet despite people trashing on it for some reason, thing was fantastic to learn jets with but ig prop players just expected it to handle like a prop...

[@jonas_k.123]

I got this thing as my third US jet last week. Yesterday I got 5 kills, then went to re-arm and then got another kill

[@somethinginspanish4753]

The repair cost is gonna end you.mate

[@maxshell9465]

I bought a talisman for this to grind out my top tier jets but because of braindead A2D-1 teammates that base rush and die, and Su-11 enemies, about 80% of matches were losses and usually it was 1v5. Good jet though

[@TSkillessB]

Thank you for the video! I got the same problems you got at first, as this is my first and only jet. Making a vid on SU-11 is a good idea! You should make the vid

[@SuperSherman44]

Good video! I’ve played the F-80 a few times a while back. I always liked it, but never get around to playing it. Also love your P-51D videos. I recently bought the Wetmore’s P-51 (which is extremely good, I can definitely see a difference between it and the D-20), and your videos on it help me refine my skills. Do you think you’ll make more Mustang videos in the future?

[@elongatedshrew5902]

You liked the F-80 but you've never played it? Make it make sense. Wtf do you mean😂

[@specialman6004]

Please do a video on the British plane called attacker, it is really weird but I think it is very overlooked.

[@thebean8255]

My first jet was the F86A5 back in the glory days, it was a really good time for this game. Wish they’d do more regular events so we can play the old Sabre vs Mig games again. Was a truly balanced time in the meta, with some unfortunate bumps but there was no level 3 players in SU25s nuking you.

[@iwantmynametobeaslongaspos7194]

I’m a very ass aviation player (my best K/D in a plane I play regularly is the F7F it’s just under 2) and I just got the Sabre and I’m so ass with it, I get like one assist before a missile or teammate kills them and then I’ll fly for like 2 minutes get in a turn fight with someone and then get 3rd partied almost every game

[@therandomtexasgamer2616]

Agree with you 100% there Spit. I first got this plane when it was still the P80A. Loved this thing from the start.

[@larikauranen2159]

I agree. My favorite is the 262 and the way i got so good with it was by playing the 262 first, getting clapped by the P-80, playing the P-80 to learn its strenghts, and then clapping them with the 262. The Schwalbe imo has better flight charactaristics, but the engines lack behind and cant at all defeat other planes with same alttitude. Only method then is doing a reversal and praying youre in a 1 v 1, but if the P-80 pilot has similar skill sealing to you, you lose every time

[@LoenDebr]

Can confirm, the F-80 molded me into a lean mean F-100 flying machine 😎

[@TallishJam]

Problem with climbing in this thing is most of the time your entire team is dead by the time you reach the battle

[@_Joob]

This was my first jet. I was terrible with it, and probably still am. Tbh I think the f84B is the best starter jet, but the p/f80a is definitely a good one too.

[@theleviathan451]

i agree with you, i was horrible with it as well but the f84 was much more forgiving.

[@_Joob]

@@theleviathan451 imo it’s mainly because of its piss poor acceleration. Teaches to to be fast and stay fast. Sort of established a good habit I guess. Not to mention it’s fun at to fly.

[@theleviathan451]

@@_Joob that makes total sense, im not much past those jets im on the saber now working towards the starfighter and even with the saber i can never get into a decent fight.

[@mistercult8695]

New War Thunder channel? Let’s go!!

[@justadeer2660]

My first jet was the sk-60, I didnt get to jets until real late because I was a runaround sue when it came to declaring loyalty to a nation, but I'm finally settled in america

[@JEMscopez]

personally i reckon the best starter jet is the vampire. its in 3 nations and a great turner with some decent guns. although since the uptier, dunno how true that is now. grinded all my rank 5 and half my rank 6 planes with the vampire

[@jpc6485]

its 8.0 now so lol

[@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72]

Expensive repair cost only gets 50 calls I'm good.

[@PrometheanGOld4]

I love this thing, it was such a comfortable plane to fly after getting it, since I was used to super props at that point

[@paulvontarsus729]

Nice vid, but I just gotta say that if you make a mistake in one of these early jets the superprops will punish you hard.

[@drierwhisper729]

The F-104A was the jet that taught me jets Edit: it was the jet I got more than 1 kill on every match (I started to get 3-5 each match with the 104)

[@Xeritei]

high ass repair now🥲

[@drierwhisper729]

yep

[@Xeritei]

@@drierwhisper729 honestly gaijin has pretty much ruined every repair cost in terms of air rb

[@drierwhisper729]

@@Xeritei exactly

[@MageOtter27]

@@Xeritei thats why i play only air ab, it got me to the f100 without being broke

[@martincoufalik9101]

In my eyes it is 262. It is not bad in single aspect but it forces you to do things correctly. You climb in slow speeds? Killed. You go for enemy you shouldnt? Dead. F80 is way too much forgiving and actually it used to be pretty much useless plane, i dont like how gaijin made it one of early jets....while 262 is seemingly useless

[@charlescourtwright2229]

i find that not using the gun upgrades gives you a wider spread, wide enough to saturate an area, dealing reliable crits, but not how narrow they are with the upgrade, which can cause you to miss more shots

[@alittlebitmoresalt130]

ah the shooting star fast and easy to fly it's really powerful imo better than the F 84 despite it's low top speed

[@collinmoore4594]

Man I’ve only got a few days of premium and I’ve been using it on Italy and Germany. But now all I’ve been seeing is this plane is the best to go and that means I’d have to start my grind back up on usa. I’m so stuck

[@Kawfee]

Really informative, thank you!

[@lihisluikku]

A great video! Would you consider making a video about the best starter jet for learning missile gameplay? As much as people who suck at it or have never tried it, meme about how easy it is, there are aspects that require skill and knowledge. I see so many people in their premium A-10 warthogs, wondering "why is my AIM-9L so shit" while failing to realize the missile itself won't magically launch at mach 2.5 from the 400km/h travelling brick. And I was also really frustrated with people incorrectly predicting the A-10 to be a destroyer of worlds with AIM-9L's. So many top tier players don't understand how important the launching plane is, when talking about missile combat. So many seem to think that the only thing which matters is getting a lock and firing the missile, and that the result is just down to luck or something.

[@cl3matis]

I'd venture to suggest the Scimitar F mainly because it handles so poorly. Shows you exactly how and when to launch

[@Mister_Livio]

The best starter jet... except fuck that repair cost.

[@marcinnowak4299]

@Commando Jessica Maybe, but not everyone wants to play that as most players (I guess) see no reason in them apart from doing funny shit or aerobatics

[@Prstnnn]

Are we not going talk about the extremely rare $350 BI??!! 5:10

[@TheCommissarIsDead]

Was watching this vid why playing and i was fighting a 1v6 and it was the first time i survived that long😂😭 this was actually really helpful so thanks a lot

[@bensonfitch6697]

I love this thing, but I’m pretty bad. If I ever want to practice, I take it into GRB and do some anti-CAS

[@diverspore2247]

I understand playing jets to get good but when it cost 10-15k for repairs it’s really hard

[@kyranhallam8430]

Damn 7 months ago I was flying that F4U I was Baskux and I was trying not to get in the way ahahah

[@Wotplaya4]

Very nice jet and can quite easily deal with most Su-11 players. Less experienced players tend to make the mistake of trying to turnfight and burn energy, the F-80 turns fairly good on the other hand, which makes them quite potent against Su-11s. But man, the .50s are just pain sometimes. Once you have experienced cannons, .50s just are a huge pain in the ass with how much hits you need to get on target at times. It's really hope for a fire or be prepared to commit to the same target for a bit longer. If the F-80 got a pair of 20mm cannons however i'd defintely play it more.

[@princessapplestrach6327]

Yesterday i almost got a kill on a F89B with a Narval but an SU-11 stole it from me i was a bit sad

[@cana0]

PPPPPFFFT, i only read the title and man, italy literally starts with the vampire and the F84G...

[@Spitflyer]

They both get thrown into the deep end. Something lower tier is better to learn with

[@fishbones8698]

ayy, it's my first ever jet!

[@PSNGamer]

I hope you're okay m8! Can't wait for the next vid!

[@shaalyx8060]

How do you avoid over g ing I do it a lot and I’ve seen people be turning and looking at someone right above them but the plane isn’t pulling insanely hard like it does for me idk if there’s a control for it but I play on Xbox

[@jonathanwilliams1644]

I was wondering if you could make a video about the Hornet MK III, I've been having lots of fun just zooming about in it and wanted to hear your opinion on it.

[@axellopez9601]

My first jet was the ouragan, it's a nice jet but the repair cost it's too high for what it offers, I would love to see a video on that jet.

[@defuncthusky6649]

Its repair cost is alright. It honestly is super good for dogfighring.

[@axellopez9601]

@@defuncthusky6649 like with most jets the repair cost its too high for its br, the jets as I said isnt bad but it cant put much of a fight on uptiers.

[@defuncthusky6649]

@@axellopez9601 ahh i see

[@NoBombersinTSS]

you still on the top, you still best content creator from war thunder, really nice man, keep it up if i want know something or im interested some plane and need a preview i come your channel , you playing well!. O7

[@katgut]

I hated props so I didn't touch air rb until I got the f86f35 I sucked at it until I got the f80 and it was eye opening one f80 game and everything I was doing wrong made sense

[@juioploski4063]

Spit I'm glad you enjoy being wrong, but please go play the real best starter jet. The Yak-15P

[@reinyfrost3753]

I remember you posting a video on the F-80 around two years ago. I assume that you now believe that the F-80 is THE best starter jet now.

[@anthonymoe5280]

thanks for making this video i have unlock a lot of usa jets but haven't played them yet because every one is fully upgraded and im stock is going for ground targets the way too go? too spade>?..

[@ModemMT]

Best starter jet (that isn’t the P2W Su-11)

[@tedarcher9120]

Aren't the machineguns on it m3, not m2?

[@Upsidedowndog27]

Su-11 needs to be 8.0 I just used it in a test drive it’s insane

[@chel9190]

Video on the Spitfire mk 24 would be really nice ❤

[@adrfarling5503]

Yo Spit Flyer could you make a video about the AJ 37?

[@Mark-es7bn]

Remember fires are deadly against jet

[@Zealot2024]

I’d recommend the F-11 instead. It will prepare you much more for top tier than this

[@flavortown3781]

Love the f11, it being a gift vehicle and I think it might be a touch spendy, it makes a quite good 2nd or 3rd jet trainer, if the missile armed sabers we're more like 8.7

[@frostedbutts4340]

Terrible choice.. it's like $50 and not even premium.

[@Zealot2024]

@@frostedbutts4340 well it’s usually like $30

[@frostedbutts4340]

@@Zealot2024 Yeah that would be more worth it, it's actually $70 so the F5 or something is way better.

[@UchihaMadaraGr]

hehe I saw you in the tank event...advance or how they call it... What's your opinion? Will we see a video about it?

[@rommelmaltez6784]

i wonder why this plane used to be called the worst years ago, and now it is good!

[@Mr_Zoomy]

Real ones know this as the P-80

[@3601christopher]

I hated this jet. The main reason was the abysmal repair cost. I prefer to consider the F3D my first jet and I love that thing

[@Splomf]

So, this is flown like a 109?

[@DELTAREDGHOST]

Nothing to learn in this jet other than the su11 is a better plane in every regard and you cant hope to beat an average pilot in one

[@conradkaplan1579]

hey spit can you do a vid on the yak-3 vk-107?

[@keeganbaldwin7193]

But when I play this plane Emmy team immediately gets kills by premium su-11 and almost every time it’s me vs the other team

[@randommanchild112]

Can you play the Me262? Surprised you haven't played it, and I am a thorough enjoyer :)

[@cheesiestbread4655]

I think I saw you in a game and said nice name

[@something7992]

What’s the deal with the f-80c why it only have wep for 1:30minutes

[@Wotplaya4]

It's not unique to the F-80C, a lot of planes have limited WEP, it's just that they have a much more generous amount relatively (the 80C is a jet, so it will use more). Not quite sure what the stuff is that allows for higher engine performance, but I think it's just water injection or something like that. Other examples are: the P-51H has about 8 minutes of WEP and the F8F has about 12 minutes I believe. Usually planes with limited WEP are high performance engines, which gain a lot of performance when WEP'ing.

[@something7992]

@@Wotplaya4 yeah I heard that the Germans had something similar but maybe

[@cat-zero7241]

Great video i loved it very infomational and helpful im 3 planes away from unlocking the F-80A-5 and im really exciting, USA tech tree grinding is hell on Earth, cant wait for germans and russians to suffer the P-80A-5's rath😁

[@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72]

Don't grind it if you die a few times you go broke.

[@LastRedStar]

Please cover the 262. It struggles to do anything dude.

[@jcasoriousa]

Idk the meteor mk3 is one of my favorite early jets to play

[@Pain-ww6ne]

MIG 9 is pretty good too.

[@alum202]

Maybe do a video on japanese air, i am beginning to grind japan, and some insight on japanese planes would be nice

[@malcolmmorris3947]

they are all made of paper, anything that hits you will kill you nine times out of ten. all the zero variants climb well and out-turn nearly everything, but are not the fastest. the mg and cannons don't hit very hard unless you are using a variant with the 30 mm, which will one shot most things but has very limited ammo (it also sounds great imo). landing properly is annoying, using the breaks will make you faceplant. never used the ki variants so couldn't tell you about them.

[@alum202]

@@malcolmmorris3947 Yeah, i am very much aware of these things. I am up to 5.7 Ground and 4.3 Air. But i guess beginning is a wrong word to use ngl

[@rainbowcat6616]

I can compare the P51H with the F80 except that P80us better at vertical

[@Poached_Toast]

Man where do you live? In the middle of the ocean? Almost every video of yours i see your ping is crazy high

[@frostedbutts4340]

Australia so yes.. we don't get WT servers so pings are terrible

[@dehydratedwater90]

R&R = Refuel and Reload

[@adothoncho1790]

No point of this plane your gonna rage to Su-11😭

[@qxexe1502]

i have the F-80 but its repair cost is way to high and i cant play it lol

[@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72]

It's made me go broke around 4 times now.

[@lailahaillallah5789]

Gloster Meteor?

[@pandoranbias1622]

Currently trying to play the Kikka, the *worst* jet in the game. Yes, it's worse than the He-162. The 162 at least has the phenomenal Mg-151s so you can reliably land hits. The Kikka wouldn't be so horrible if its gun was accurate and didn't spark every single round.

[@CecilioSprayetti]

I always found the early Russian jets to be the best starter jets. They basically feel exactly like props just with extra speed

[@braydenrasnek9143]

F3d is decent as well

[@BiscuitDelivery]

You and your friend won't fight each other? When my friends and I see each other in a game we immediately make a beeline to try and shoot each other down, then clip it and post it in discord. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

[@Lead1121]

“Now onto our sponsor” *drags slider to end* Sorry bro, hate Raid because of all the ads

[@yyxx4174]

Why shoot tracers?

[@jenniferrustila4481]

Aiming, it also has a high chance to light the enemy on fire.

[@conradp7038]

i like the F84 way better

[@joeydehart3429]

You cant trust a streamer that promoted raid shadow legends.

[@aerohk]

F-84 is a better starter jet, no?

[@georgivanev7466]

The F-80C is much better....

[@penclaw]

came here for raidshadowlegends !!

[@joestueckrath5275]

Do another Su-11 video

[@paciencia0956]

f80 at 7.7? what are you smoking little man? Btw nice paid actors.

[@jacobthibodaux1383]

I tried doing what you were doing it worked but I was at the bottom of the board every game. I got zero kills each match. I played 5 games in it and no kills

[@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72]

Really just need to improve your aim same with me.

[@jacobthibodaux1383]

@@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72 I am still learning how to use it but I am getting kills now. Not every game but like every two.

[@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72]

@@jacobthibodaux1383 I'm still averaging -12k sl and no kills:(

[@jacobthibodaux1383]

@@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72 I just went to play the bayern and ju 288c

[@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72]

@@jacobthibodaux1383 I don't have any other tek trees grinded btw like the pfp.

[@PhoenYx114]

no, dont do it i bought su 11 right after your video

[@akthethotboi9711]

It’s shit the 50s don’t do damadge 😂 u can get a good burst on Somomes jet and nothin happen

[@Lach271]

Terrible because of su-11

[@Onezmhu]

obligatory raid shadow legends sponsorship = obligatory dislike

[@Spitflyer]

Can’t win them all ig

[@nemisous83]

Nonsense the HE-162 is the best starter jet.

[@jonas_k.123]

No way he is playing raid. It’s a bullshit cashgrab game

[@Hadgerz]

worse. it's a gambling game with a brightly coloured fantasy rpg skin, made by casino moguls designed to frustrate kids into _raiding_ their parents' wallets...peddled to them by content creators they trust and respect

[@Spitflyer]

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[@agislycoudis4139]

@@Spitflyer heh. Wrecked them xD

[@jonas_k.123]

@@Spitflyer well, I certainly didn’t expect that. I guess it’s one way to kill time while sideclimbing