The Best Storytelling Trick In Reservoir Dogs And The Dark Joy Of Mean-Spirited Movies

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Uptomyknees

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@glennross85 Жыл бұрын

I love Reservoir Dogs, I always saw it as a far superior movie to the more popular Pulp Fiction.

@joebrown6778 Жыл бұрын

As a black guy, the thing I appreciated most in that movie was that cop Roth answered to. Too many movies at the time portrayed their black characters as forgettable and disposable...I love Heat as much as the next guy, but what happened to the driver (i get it, it's played like a real tragedy but the guy never really had a great stand out moment) was very common in those days. But in Reservoir Dogs, my guy isn't only dope as hell but he's actually schooling the white guy on how it's done. I've always appreciated Tarantino movies for things like that, and he's given me many heroes of color to root for in his movies that are true standouts.

@DavidGonzalez-zl3dz 5 ай бұрын

He has like 5 minutes of screen time and he's still such a memorable part of the movie, not just as Mr. Orange's backstory, but as a whole person who you want to know more about

@tonystark106422 Жыл бұрын

Unironically, I'd kill to hear you discuss Reservoir Dogs, AT LENGTH. Always love and respect your passion.

@isaacpriestley Жыл бұрын

yes please! I've always loved that moment in Reservoir Dogs but I never really got how powerful a moment it is until this discussion!

@AJGexe Жыл бұрын

Kick Ass 2 seemed really mean spirited comparted to the first. Like a kid wanting to make the world a better place was stupid for trying. That first movie was so in love with that bazooka.

@vde1846 Жыл бұрын

I kind of liked it, but I get what you mean. Weirdly the comics, both one and two, are even more mean spirited and heartless. They actually *are* about how all the people trying to be heroes are stupid, insane and pathetic. The first movie is miles better than the comic it's based on, and even the second one improves upon its source material.

@LeprosySnail Жыл бұрын

"Audition is actually soft and nice" That would have been a great quote for the poster.

@WTKB82 Жыл бұрын

Maxxx, we need more vids like this. I command it. Please.

@dakotasmith116 Жыл бұрын

OMG you made this movie so much better for me now! It was already my favorite Tarantino!

@-PRPLEHZE- Жыл бұрын

I show people Reservoir Dogs so that Mr Pink can explain why I won't be tipping any of the servers when we go out for pizza afterwards.

@Ahab3039 Жыл бұрын

These are my favorite kind of videos

@Courier_333 Жыл бұрын

Martyrs is one of the most cruel movies I've ever seen but the ending payoff makes it entirely worth it

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAID FOR YOU OLD BIIIIIITCH

@cdwizzerd Жыл бұрын

yeah, I was thinking about Eden Lake too. thats a rough watch

@NostalgiNorden Жыл бұрын

But it has young and amazing Jack O´Connell tough!

@Rhadiv Жыл бұрын

The movie Very Bad Things is mean spirited. I remember being the first guy laughing in the cinema when they try to "fix" the first "fuck up" and it scalates. By the end everyone was laughing.

@jenssylvesterwesemann7980 Жыл бұрын

As far as mean-spiritedness goes, that 1968 spaghetti western, "The Great Silence", comes to mind immediately.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

never heard of it!

@jenssylvesterwesemann7980 Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees It's basically a deconstruction of the bounty hunter trope from the spaghetti westerns that came before it, but it is also much more than that. Dark social commentary. Comes with another magnificent Ennio Morricone score, BTW.

@inthefade Жыл бұрын

I rewatched the 80s Blob last year, it being something I watched repeatedly as a kid, and my GF and I were totally impressed. Fantastic movie. Still holds up.

@jwnj9716 Жыл бұрын

The Blob is definitely one of the best remakes. Frank Darabont always makes sure that no one is safe in his films. You have others like Salo, Men Behind the Sun etc. Here is a crazy movie, Ebola Syndrome. Anthony Wong is just great in it. Even in the movie Eight Immortals Restaurant. Here is one hidden gem, Run&Kill.

@meg-k-waldren Жыл бұрын

Embarrassingly I have to say I haven't watched the Blob. So a-la Steve Rogers, I've added it to my list.

@jwnj9716 Жыл бұрын

@@meg-k-waldren You will enjoy it. Its up there with The Thing & The Fly remakes.

@croinkix Жыл бұрын

I find Funny Games way more mean spirted than Salo

@leraw99 Жыл бұрын

The 80s Blob is great, yeah. I was absolutely floored when one of the twins died. Like, usually kids are safer than safe in movies, very rare for them to die. In the Blob? Nope. Keeps introducing characters only to kill them off, every action scene is basically the "red wedding" from GoT. Craig S. Zahler's movies are pretty mean-spirited. I love them, but gosh darn are they dark. The Mist was mean-spirited. I hated the twist, it felt needlessly cruel after everything prior.

@catslino5037 Жыл бұрын

Sono Sion's S*icide Club is a good movie that's also mean spirited. The third act betrays the main detective character in a way that has almost no foreshadow and it doesn't get any better for any characters. (i love the t*rture song-performance, bur is really sadistic and long) . Your point about reservoir dogs is something i haven't consciously considered but i felt very much on the first watch when i was 13. I loved that scene and other people tought i was feigning it to seem mean but i felt exactly what you described.

@peyoteerotic8826 Жыл бұрын

I listen to Rollys song all the time haha!

@dextrodemon Жыл бұрын

the movies where i'm like 'i dont think i can watch this' for being too mean or hateful or w/e are mostly about like special forces army guys, the true jingoism and disregard for human life will come out in those. things like mile 22 staring mark Walberg, not like big fat 80s stuff.

@El-Burrito Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I probably would've enjoyed these movies when I was younger, but as I grew older and my perspective grew, the movies just end up seeming mean.

@Regitron3000 Жыл бұрын

Mean spirited movies that I can think of off the top of my head: Irreversible Requiem For a Dream The Divide The Green Inferno The Strangers The Wicker Man (original) Right At Your Door The Neon Demon Midsommar Rampage (the 2009 Uwe Boll film) is exceedingly mean spirited.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

I agree with all of those except for Requiem For A Dream (sad but not cruel) and Midsommar (a happy silly movie that wants to hug and dance)

@Enriqueguiones Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% with your take on the "ear" scene and Reservoir Dogs in general. Not my favorite thing of all time, but a terrific script nonetheless. And I always loved how tragic the ending feels. It's a much better movie than "City on fire," which it's always compared to, and with a lot more heart. Tarantino is definitely another level!

@NostalgiNorden Жыл бұрын

And "Infernal Affairs" is a much better movie than that half-assed american Bro-remake.

@Enriqueguiones Жыл бұрын

@@NostalgiNorden I'm so sorry! I shouldn't have said "Infernal Affairs". I was thinking on "City on fire". I will correct it.

@JHolt_88 Жыл бұрын

Nah, you can't through Chow Yun Fat under the bus like that lol

@Enriqueguiones Жыл бұрын

I like Chow Yun Fat. I just think Tarantino movie is better.

@JUTUUBFAN Жыл бұрын

Someone already quite rightly pointed out "Kick-Ass 2", so I noticed that there's a trend with sequels that either got more cynical than their predecessors or just lacked the heart from the first one, making the mean parts stick out even more. Thinking of "Kingsman 2" and "Dumb and Dumber To" here. It's especially bad for comedies. "Hangover 3" is bizarre in that regard: it's not a retread of the original, like the 2nd one is, but a weirdly sinister and humorless story that's tonally inconsistent with that world. It ramps up the protagonists' unlikability to 11 and in the end even kind of makes fun of the audience for not wanting this to be another wedding story (I think Todd Philipps even said that this mockery was the intent - now that's spiteful!)

@HeyImRosko Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% about DOgs. Very Bad People is my pick for mean spirited movie.

@guitarhero8110 Жыл бұрын

I've seen this movie twice but it's still very vivid in my head. It leaves an impression like few movies can for me.

@TheVarietyVendor Жыл бұрын

One of my fav "mean spirited" movies are The Descent, Martyr and No country for old men. It's like protagonist just can't catch a break.

@NostalgiNorden Жыл бұрын

No Country is just pointless IMO.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

@@NostalgiNorden no no it's ABOUT pointless

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

NO COUNTRY ISN'T MEAN SPIRITED! It fuckin HITS CHIGEUR WITH A CAR AND BREAKS HIS ARM for NO GODDAMN REASON other than to prove its point, which is neither mean nor kind

@joebrown6778 Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees And the kids at the end. 'Hell, mister. I'll give you my shirt.'

@TheVarietyVendor Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees can something be so mean spirited it goes full rotation to the opposite side?

@UncleBernhard Жыл бұрын

Finally he's back on KZbin! I loved your movie but that meant no KZbin videos! Solution: Make the next movie cheaper and take time for KZbin! It's important! Your videos matter!

@mryodak Жыл бұрын

I think stuff like clockwork orange and salo are pretty mean-spirited, despite "bad" characters supposedly getting the justice.

@persuasivebarrier2419 Жыл бұрын

Funny story about Blair Witch. My sister rented it when it came out with the intent to scare me. It was the last 5 minutes where the lead character is going into the basement of the empty house to find her male friend, but my parents came home and our dad came in. Ofc he asked what we were watching and we were like “Shhhhhhhh!!!,” still engulfed by the movie. Eventually the camera turns to reveal the male friend standing in a dark corner facing the wall after a scuffle. I’m scared shitless. Then my dad asks if he’s taking a piss and i just lost it. My sister was so mad he ruined it and i was making it worse with my non-stop laughing. Sister: 0, Dad: 1

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

ahhahahaha

@yousleepywolf Жыл бұрын

Watched the house that jack built last night for the first time. I popped when you mentioned it because i was thinking it as soon as you mentioned the topic of cruel movies. Another one worth mentioning is Knock, Knock with Keanu Reeves

@jamesedward3619 Жыл бұрын

I pride myself on having interesting takes on narratives. However, despite seeing Reservoir Dogs about a dozen times, I've never thought of this interpretation of the ear cutting scene. Brilliant take, Max. You're the master.

@Shadeprint Жыл бұрын

No sight of "The Killing of a Sacred Deer" even in the comments. That was the most mean spirited shit I ever watched.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

come on! KoSD is like the most huggaboo laughing and dancing movie of all time! When he's spinning around! It's funny!

@antoinerossignol9355 Жыл бұрын

My buddy showed up to my house with the VHS of R.D ... absolutely blew our minds!

@muttley3050 Жыл бұрын

Mean Creek comes to mind. I saw it described as Stand By Me meets Deliverance and that feels like an accurate summation. Death to Smoochy is one I see people refer to as mean spirited but ultimately I think its kind of optimistic

@Willismcnillis Жыл бұрын

Eden Lake is terribly underrated. Thankfully it’s getting the 4K treatment, so hopefully it will find a new audience.

@Jonh1138 Жыл бұрын

Most mean spirited movie I've seen is probably Would You Rather, it needs to be, through the whole movie every scene happens and I just go "that's such a bummeeeeeeer"

@CartoonCorey Жыл бұрын

My wife and I are huge horror fans and you named a lot of films we love like Funny Games and Eden Lake. I think horror as a genre has moved away from the happy or hopeful endings of 90s and early 2000s horror. So much in the world is so bleak and fucked up, its a reflection and a reminder that not everything works out and not everything is always going to be ok. Black Mirror episodes and films like Vivarium brought about interesting responses to the shared trauma of the pandemic.

@peyoteerotic8826 Жыл бұрын

Ever seen The Hitcher?

@GodzillaSunday Жыл бұрын

Henry portrait of a serial killer

@Langolyer2010 Жыл бұрын

Damn, thats what I wanted to mention!

@ziggygunz2447 8 ай бұрын

Yes! I looove the 80s Blob and I feel like so few people remember it or have even watched it to begin with lol

@NorthyToons Жыл бұрын

The 2003 remake of Willard, is mean-spirited in a more depressing shitting-on-a-guy until they explode kind of way.

@ayzworld 19 күн бұрын

You should do full commentaries for the movies you love. 🤝🏽

@Soothsayer-je1qk Жыл бұрын

I love these videos theyre so inspiring!!!

@JUTUUBFAN Жыл бұрын

Off the top of my hat, "Monster House" and "Pain & Gain" are my go-to examples for mean-spirited movies that lack heart to make up for their aggression and spite towards their characters and/or audience. "Mars Attacks" and Rob Reiner's "North" are also pretty mean-spirited in my book. Super interesting topic to think about, I'm going to make multiple comments about this lol

@jamesshepherd9390 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Why Monster House?

@JUTUUBFAN Жыл бұрын

To me, there were no satisfying emotional pay-offs for anything happening. A genuinely scary kids movie is fine as long as it has its heart at the right place. But nothing gave me that sense of connection in "Monster House". Particularly the origin of the house feels cruel with no release of any kind. That's what makes it mean-spirited in a non-enjoyable way for me. I couldn't get into it as a kid and rewatching it years later didn't change much. In contrast to other movies named here, I can sort of see the appeal of "Monster House", so I hope you enjoyed it! Have you ever read Dan Harmon's letter about the movie? It's entertaining no matter how you feel about the film.

@th0r_0dinson Жыл бұрын

Please do more of these videos

@FreshNews247 Жыл бұрын

Dogs aren't mean-spirited. And I've heard other people talk about it in this way. But it's a modern day Shakespeare. Like so many other crime story's, Godfather, Two Hands, Animal Kingdom (Movie not the cheap show) and Romeo + Juliet.

@MuddMaxx Жыл бұрын

Most recent mean spirited movie I can think of is Speak No Evil

@vincentsolis5149 Жыл бұрын

I always felt Garbage Pale kids was mean spirited

@UncleBernhard Жыл бұрын

Oh and the Video Archives Podcast with him and Roger and Gala Avary is really good, too! They are overselling most of the movies but that's part of the fun!

@lukabop8558 Жыл бұрын

Match Point is kind of Mean Spirited, but that was kind of the point, I guess.

@FreshNews247 Жыл бұрын

The tennis movie?

@lukabop8558 Жыл бұрын

@@FreshNews247 Woody Allen film.

@Lonelyjones Жыл бұрын

A movie that I hate that I immediately think of as mean spirited is Mother

@bradrosenkrantz3810 Жыл бұрын

I know you have a lot of resentment towards the film industry now but... I think you could make an interesting video talking about the double WGA / SAG strike? Would love to hear your perspective because it seems quite dire

@lamargordon6017 Жыл бұрын

Ryuhei Kitamura did an American movie a few years ago called "Downrange." That is by far the most mean spirited movie I've ever seen and I absolutely love it!

@UncleBernhard Жыл бұрын

Irréversible felt really mean. Unwatchable actually. I think Gaspar Noé (and Nolan actually) are hiding (oh and David Lynch) are hiding the fact that they are not that good at storytelling behind their technical tricks and weirdness. And I feel that Tarantino is still unterrated. His movies hardly appear in the lists. Just because he makes genre films?

@KyleS3m3noff Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I tell people I think Nolan hides some really shoddy storytelling abilities under a crazy concept and they look at me like I've grown another head!

@creamithmanning2632 Жыл бұрын

One of the most mean-spirited stories I've ever come across is The Brigands of Rattleborge, a screenplay by S. Craig Zahler (not surprising if you've seen Bone Tomahawk). There is a point in the script where it devolves, and every subsequent page becomes vile and depressing. It makes Oldboy feel like summer camp in comparison, which I guess is fitting since Park Chan Wook was attached to direct the movie at some point.

@Horror-Man Жыл бұрын

I often find hidden gem dark comedies to be FAR more mean-spirited than even some of the most depraved horror films. Here are some of my favorites: The King of Comedy (1983) The Heartbreak Kid (1972) In The Company of Men (1997) Crimes and Misdemenours (1989) Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949) Citizen Ruth (1996) Modern Romance (1981) Fritz The Cat (1972) Prizzi's Honor (1985) Heavy Traffic (1973) River's Edge (1986) Catch-22 (1970) A New Leaf (1971) The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (1989) Investigation of A Citizen Above Suspicion (1970) Wag The Dog (1997) Monsieur Verdoux (1947) Unfaithfully Yours (1948) Election (1999) Under The Silver Lake (2019) War of the Roses (1989) World's Greatest Dad (2009) Death Becomes Her (1992) Divorce, Italian Style (1962) Little Murders (1971) Very Bad Things (1998) Force Majeure (2014) The Ruling Class (1972)

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

Okay I want World's Greatest Dad, Death Becomes Her, Force Majeure, War Of The Roses and The King Of Comedy OFF THIS LIST!!!! SIR! OFF IT! I AM CALLING THE POLICE THESE MOVIES ARE ALL CUTE

@Horror-Man Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees lol I can see what you mean with the others, but NOT King of Comedy. Even as a guy who's a HUGE horror fan, who's seen well over a thousand horror films, something about KOC hits different. It somehow manages to be a hilarious comedy while also being hands down the most subtly eerie and uniquely disturbing film I've ever seen.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

@@Horror-Man He's funny! If he wasn't funny, I get what you mean, but he's FUCKING FUNNY and he GOT HIS SHOT and KILLED IT It's like the anti-Joker

@Horror-Man Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees I agree he's funny, but definitely not Louis CK/Bill Burr-funny. More like Obscure Comedian You Stumble Upon On KZbin-funny. He's not a disaster and he's perfected the delivery, but his material is hopelessly derivative and mediocre.

@markbradley9907 Жыл бұрын

The king of mean spirited movies is The Departed. You get a semblance of satisfaction seeing Matt Damon's face when he opens the door and see Mark Wahlberg standing there but still. Leo didn't deserve that fate!

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

THAT'S NOT MEAN-SPIRITED, BUD, IT'S TRAGIC!

@markbradley9907 Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees can it not be both? I feel like there's a Venn diagram there somewhere!

@illusorygentleman1718 Жыл бұрын

Eden Lake was the movie you couldn't recall. Also, last year's Speak No Evil is super mean spirited.

@brettevans2138 Жыл бұрын

Audition not mean spirited I 100% agree, while freaking gruesome it's, a sad story

@josh2k207 Жыл бұрын

Seeing a lot of reference to Michael Bay stuff but I feel out of all the his movies Transformers 3 is the most mean spirited for several reason but the biggest stand out is what they do to Optimus Prime as a character. He's on the boy scout do no harm take no shit list with characters like Steve Rogers and Clark Kent. He has optimist in his goddamn name. In the movies climax he exicutes not one but two characters begging for mercy who've been beaten to the point of being defenseless in the span of 10 minutes and the camera and score treat it like it's some fantastic triumph.

@ThisIsTheRoad Жыл бұрын

To be fair, I don't think your general US audience member would have the same sympathy for a cop, as they would for a cat. No matter what they do as a character or what is done to them. That cat got the upper paw!

@immakingamovie1379 Жыл бұрын

I spit on your grave (1978) is very mean spirited. I feel that she should have let the mentally challenged guy live, not that he is innocent, but because he was the only one who seemed to know what he did was wrong.

@21stcenturyhiphop Жыл бұрын

The movie you brought up where the couple is terrorized by the teens is Eden Lake. A dark, dark film.

@guitarhero8110 Жыл бұрын

Sidebar, have you seen the new Superman anime on Max/adult swim? They share a few things from your version, and I think do a good job with the character.

@nolin335 Жыл бұрын

Please do more videos of any length about reservoir dogs

@OhMeWow Жыл бұрын

I love Reservoir Dogs. Great movie

@JUTUUBFAN Жыл бұрын

Coming up with good examples of movies with heart by your definition is difficult because a certain amount of that should be included in all good stories. But when thinking about mean-spirited movies/shows that balance out the nastiness, I had to think of a lot of Britcoms! "Blackadder" for instance is nasty and mean-spirited throughout but you feel the frustration of the main characters, even if they're mean or stupid. I think a lot of British comedy films and shows feature that amount of cynicism... and interestingly, most of the ones that are forgotten or put on the "10 worst sitcoms of all time" lists, are the ones that are TOO mean and didn't include that kind of heart. Wrapping up: I think "The Cable Guy" is underrated and has enough heart to balance the nastiness, but audiences weren't prepared to see Carrey like that yet. And "The Last Jedi" is an example of a movie that's not heartless but spiteful towards its fans and set an annoying trend (that other franchises followed) of "Oh, you wanted to see THIS? Well, you'll get two minutes of it, then it's gone and we'll serve you something inferior, depressing and boring. Subverted your expectations, huh?"

@meg-k-waldren Жыл бұрын

2:06 applies to a recent oscar script I read, but it was the anti-hero always getting away with the most implausible stuff... and the resolution in the end wasn't really a resolution cause the antagonists could easily legally get out the situation the anti-hero put them in to end the movie. It was like to the degree of the anti-hero knowing the plot. If there's anything that gets to me in a movie, it's that.

@kitschydotpre4302 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone finally addressed the mean spirited movie thing. I don't like them either but reservoir dogs always got a pass from me.

@TheVarietyVendor Жыл бұрын

I noticed in many of your pitches you take alot of inspiration from Tarantino. Taking the point of view of (what we think is) a nobody and making that character be a plot point. It's these kinds of story beats that make a movie rewatchable. One of the many reasons why Tarantino is my 2nd fav director(just a tad behind Hitchcock). P.S. Your shirts always reminds me of a script i wrote when i was 12. Of Ace Ventura smoking pot to be able to communicate with animals. And is the son of Navy seal retired vet and former governer Jesse Ventura. Ace is always told he won't ever amount of anything. Until one day he is exposed to extra terrestrial pot that gives him the ability to communicate with outer space animals. An invasion happens. With the CIA are trying to get Ace because he smoked all the alien pot in Area 51. But Ace is on the run because he thought he's gonna get locked up for life for breaking in. It's an invasion movie. With the heart of the story being about reconnection between a father who just misses his deceased wife. And wants their son to continue their legacy. Not knowing that Ace will always land on his feet because they raised him right. And Ace seeing his dad more than just over bearing boomer. But also someone that just wants the world to see his son for the great person he is. Ace Ventura: Space Detective.

@thechaosshaman Жыл бұрын

Love the content, but I gotta cut it to you straight... I followed you down the Carly Rae rabbit hole previously and now the youtube algorithm keeps spamming me with her videos. Was this a ploy Max? Are you recieving a kickback from her ad revenue? I'm kidding!!! OF COURSE IM KIDDING!!! Keep up the great work. Cant wait for the stage version of Chronicle 2

@awkwardhoors Жыл бұрын

Megan Is Missing - I haven't even watched it but I know enough about it to know now that is was created solely to upset people. The Poughkeepsie Tapes I have seen and it's pretty mean-spirited too since the killer is never even revealed, never mind caught. The original version of The Vanishing is another.

@polishedpebble4111 Жыл бұрын

MiM is the only movie I ever fast-forward because it was upsetting. It was too real. Although the news bits could have been done more realistically.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

Poughkeepsie definitely has sequences in it that cross the line

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

Poughkeepsie definitely has sequences in it that cross the line

@WarrenEBB Жыл бұрын

curious what you make of Hateful 8, with regard to mean-spirited. like, i think the point of that movie might be : We overcame our racism through a shared misogeny. (but maybe not. maybe they transcended all the layers of hate displayed throughout - by delivering on their friend (who saved them in the snow)'s promise to always see his prisoner hang. ... maybe they even sort of both learn to hate the criminal character and just need to see justice done in their final moments?)

@LarryHazard 7 ай бұрын

how can you think the point of the movie is overcoming racism through shared misogyny lmao she was a criminal like her whole gang she's not the stand in for females lmao

@henkdachief Жыл бұрын

i also like reservoir dogs a lot and i usually say its my favorite tarantino too. i saw it when i was 10 yo alone at night and the ear scene caught me off guard. it was pretty shocking and i didnt get the point of the scene. but i saw from dusk till dawn the same night and that was way worse for me as a kid, the suspense when the vampires reveal themselves and the first impact is over was soo insane, i didnt even know it was a horror movie. funny you mentioned martyrs since that movie was the worst for me.. it feels mean spirited but it comes around in the end for me but it took me 3 viewings to even finish it, so i watched the mean stuff 3 times. i would never watch hostel tho.

@louthegiantcookie Жыл бұрын

Logan to me is the king of mean spirited movies. Take a charismatic, charming protagonist, and spend the whole film with him as a wheezing, coughing, slowly dying mess. It's a great film, and I never ever want to see it again.

@klaymen22 Жыл бұрын

The main characters life in the first quarter to half of Hamlet 2 felt genuinely mean-spirited. weird example, i know.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

no, I agree

@bradskag3007 Жыл бұрын

A good mean spirited movie that came to mind is the Korean film Old Boy, as for a movie with heart also from Korea would be the Host

@goach_art Жыл бұрын

"High plains drifter" feelt a bit mean spirited, an angry rapist ghost both protecting and making a mess out of an already troubled city felt like someone's weird fantasy.

@haddonfieldradio666 Жыл бұрын

Martyrs, while deliberately disturbing, is in no way mean spirited because the most disturbing qualities of the narrative are also the most strangely touching qualities of the story, when viewed through the prism of the evolution of the two main characters and how they relate to each other…if that makes any sense.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

Exactly why I singled it out here! You hit the nail on the head. Plus, I really think any movie that ends with the bad guy getting a huge dose of "GET FUCKED IDIOT" can't be totally heartless.

@isleofredemption Жыл бұрын

Don’t get me STARTED on Funny Games…

@joshkaid Жыл бұрын

Every Saw movie is pretty mean spirited.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

Some more than others

@Spinnaker10 Жыл бұрын

Syriana comes to mind.

@homelessjesse9453 Жыл бұрын

Most mean-spirited? Hands down is Bloodsucking Freaks.

@LazyFox42 Жыл бұрын

Just imagine, leaving the cinema right before the scene where Mr. Orange reveals himself, and then, for many years, wondering what's the fuss about this mean gangster movie.🤣

@JUTUUBFAN Жыл бұрын

James Gunn's early stuff is quite mean-spirited, sour and angry (still is to an extent, but one can see the tone evolving and softening). One of the best examples is his "Humanzee" short and of course "Super". I find that movie well-made, with great performances and direction but also thought it's incredibly disgusting, going way too far, totally confusing what the message or emotional stakes are and just aggressively sneering throughout. It's an interesting film for sure but I never got how people can enjoy the experience of watching it. 3:47 No wonder Gunn let the director of "Wolf Creek" film his Belko Experiment script, if they share those edgelord sensibilities 😂

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

The sneer in Gunn's work appears in pretty much everything he does other than Guardians 1

@JUTUUBFAN Жыл бұрын

@@Uptomyknees True, though I'd say that style works well with The Suicide Squad (I know you said that movie shouldn't exist in the first place) and to a degree with Slither. It's frustrating because he is a talented, impressive and inspiring filmmaker, especially considering how he completely worked his way up from the bottom and is now literally at the top creatively. Hoping for the best but expecting the worst for Superman: Legacy.

@Langolyer2010 Жыл бұрын

I always thought (and continuing to do so) that there was one actually "real" scene in Audition - when we see a guy in the bag. It is a main character trapped there and the rest of the movie is his brain trying to rationalize his actions (first half) and come up with a fantasy happy ending to escape into it (finale). Basically japanese version of Lost Highway, where the only real scene is the guy in prison getting to the electric chair.

@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын

no way man