The Best Supports Have Arrived | ZZZ CN Pulling Opinions V1.2

[@cyberneko4913]

Bro really said the first agent that can perfect parry when Ben is right there.

[@nzungupumu1350]

Ben never existed in this dudes head

[@farhanlabeeb2851]

Lololol

[@zxcxzxc]

frfr Ben is actually underrated

[@youremotionalsupport194]

Who's Ben

[@think1965]

@@youremotionalsupport194tennyson

[@ataluscas]

One day people will realize how broken Ben is. Hollow zero? Hold X. He can solo easily. No sweat. He can stagger ANY enemy in the game and break any chain of attack, even from bosses.

[@RinrinFran]

Finally, my S11, Burnice and Lucy team comp will be my 3rd team for Shiyu Defense in case there's a fire-focused team comp needed.

[@damarhaps8852]

didnt s11 want enemies to be stunned?

[@youremotionalsupport194]

I'd be running with Anby instead of Lucy. That's me at least. The stun DMG multiplier seems so good to pass and I like better dishing damage while they can't do anything back for maximum rotation

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

@@damarhaps8852 Tbh even anomaly teams want enemies stunned. that's why Qingyi's value is insanely high.. 33% bonus dmg against stunned units is like 1-2 minute off a timer.11

[@Onikabutofirstsisterlater]

@@damarhaps8852 Luci can be built as pseudo stunner when maxxed, she'll only need 2k atk, so 2 piece stun with impact disk 6 is viable, plus her impact is beefed and passed to her boars

[@fluffbunn4175]

Wouldn't S11 dilute Burnice burn damage ?

[@wizirbyman]

i haven't pulled on any banner yet because i was saving up for virtual idols, but once i saw Burnice i changed my mind and i'm going to pull for her. Going to keep saving all my pulls for virtual idols after i get burnice and her wengine though

[@orion615]

These defence agents already have equal if not better buffs than our current supports. Now imagine a limited support 💀

[@mysteryfirecat673]

I have the feeling one of the girls from the Idol faction will be our first limited support, and well, if the meta changes completely we will have to see

[@chocobo4646]

Caesar is definitely one I'd like to have. Koleda is really wanted between the two main teams I have. My fault for not building up Anby earlier, but secondary team feels weird with with S11 mixing with Piper on my Lucy's team. Quingyi coulda been very helpful... but even more important than getting Caesar or Burnice is getting M6 Lucy, and extra pipers are nice too. Plus, I never got a Grace, so Burnice will be really nice to make an actual anomaly team, and Piper is so much fun. That, and I do run Inferno Metal S11, so I'd love to try her out with more burning.

[@kreem3766]

People seem to keep forgetting that the 4 piece fire set provides a free 28% Crit Rate when burning an enemy. My current S11 stats are 3200, 61%(+28%) and 165%. Having Lucy to boost 11's Attack for another 1500 and Burnice to keep proccing burn, 11 would be a brute forcing monster for any endgame content

[@ninthfriend3347]

Jane, Caesar, and Burnice sounds like a fun comp that I can think of, Anomaly comp with strong shields. But I'm going to get them on their reruns because I need to stay strong for Harumasa and Miyabi.

[@ChaiTea1212]

Jane, Ceasar, Burnice is my dream team, I'll try my best to get them, right now I have enough for Ceasar but burnice is another story It'll be a lot of fun

[@BlAdeZ197]

The Anti interrupt from Ceasar could have insane value, I love not getting interrupted by the smallest attacks that hit me Burnice's animations look clean as hell. Definitely will get both of them

[@pixelpuppy]

Since I got Jane Doe, Burnice seems like a must now. and off field means Xingqiu, and we all know how powerful he is.

[@roguevxn9901]

could also means dehya lol

[@bjornnilsson2941]

Or Xiangling more likely, and in ZZZ burning is a much better reaction than in Genshin ^^ So Xiangling with free Burgeon I guess (that’s best case scenario obviously)

[@pixelpuppy]

@@bjornnilsson2941 yea but Xiangling needs others to buff her. Xingqiu doesn't.

[@bjornnilsson2941]

@@pixelpuppy yeah but I do think Burnice is more off field DPS than off field support like XQ. Doubt she has a heal and interrupt resist like him. Especially since Caesar already seems to be that unit. She probably will benefit people buffing her too, just not the energy black hole that Xiangling is. Hopefully her off field damage / anomaly application will feel like Xiangling at least!

[@pixelpuppy]

@@bjornnilsson2941 here's hoping! I'm excited for her nonetheless!

[@tourist2222]

Caesars ult might be an install, in the livestream it says she enters “overlord stance” and it looks to be really good for crowd control

[@breadscream6619]

Dragon install?

[@hayderade9852]

@@breadscream6619this truly was a fighting game

[@tourist2222]

Well nvm looks like the gather is part of her basic string (hold basic) which is actually more insane lol

[@AnotherAyushRaj]

@@tourist2222 yea its great but takes Assist Points which is ok imo

[@lightborn3526]

​@@breadscream6619 VOLCANIC VIPER 👹👹👹👹

[@ahlemlora1452]

Bro, Burnice is gonna be a great disorder enabler but saying she's the kafka of ZZZ is the biggest cope ever, litteraly any other off-field element applier can match, if not outdo her. She doesn't do anything unique for her to be compared to kafka. 1.3 is likely to have someone that does the same thing as her but from a different element and her kit is so simple that it'd be way too easy for hoyo to powercreep her in the future by making a unit that does the same thing but actually gives the team a buff or some sort. I'd see her having high value if a dps comes out that specifically requires full uptime on burn.

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

Agree with this, I'd say an anomaly unit can only be called a KAFKA is they can make all anomaly damage crit, and not just herself(Jane Doe) or allow all anomaly units bypass the window of disorder.

[@kmel3588]

Brunices A ranks on her banner are just too cracked not to pull on, even if you dont get burnice its still worth to throw pulls at it imho.

[@forcodingg1287]

Skip Jane and Ellen, Got Zhu and Qingyi. Have enough pull for guarantee both. Zhu+Qingyi+Nicole for 1st team and Piper+Burnice+Caesar 2nd gonna be Really good Combo for both Shiyu defense and The New endgame

[@wizirbyman]

how do you have that many pulls?

[@HerbIntake]

@@wizirbymanyou get a lot of free mono from playing the game and since they skipped two of the first characters they got lucky probably and had an easier time saving after getting the two characters that they wanted

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

​@@wizirbyman Cuz he skipped Jane and Ellen... for f2p you usually can not pull for the next unit after.. Making it like Pull > skip > pull > Skip. the game has enough currency for that, in fact all gacha game has that economy, otherwise f2p players will quit this game so easy. What he did is Skip > Pull > Pull > Skip > basically the same pattern as above but on different order. Though this isn't taking into account a 50-50 loss.

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

I have the same team. though my second team is Nekomata + Anby + Rina.. it's pretty bad and I'd like to swap Anby for Ceasar to go for Nekomata + Ceasar + Lucy. either that so I can play Corin + Ceasar + Lycaon/Lucy.

[@MrSilver222]

Pretty good pulls. I got Ellen and skipped entire 1.1, so I could get Caesar+Burnice and Yanagi. Got 235 pulls saved up and will skip all W-engines to get those 3 agents

[@thegamewoods8473]

Burnice is such an easy pull i need her on my account yesterday. Once i have her I really need to pull an Ether unit and an S rank Physical unit, preferably Ether Anomaly and maybe build up my Corin or get Neko as my 300 selector

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

Ether Anomally might be very hard, since Corruption is not a good dot damage... it's on the same wavelength as Freeze where in it only works on "Mono Ice" so assuming so we'd just gonna get a "MONO Ether team".

[@thegamewoods8473]

@@marclenraymagdaraog691 No Corruption DoT is the exact same damage wise as Shock, tied for highest Anomaly multipliers

[@AnotherAyushRaj]

@@marclenraymagdaraog691 Ether stunner would go so hard with Cake Yuan

[@cristianalfonso7594]

Thanks, my opinion on this characters has arrived

[@dlwk1988]

First agent that can perffect parry Ben: over...

[@UnusualEcho]

Breaking news but hoyo verse just GIGA nerfed Caesar right before the patch deploys They removed the perk of her shield that prevented overflow damage by making it so any one instance of damage couldn’t go through it So now if you get hit by an attack that breaks the shield you take damage anyway even at full shield

[@yuugael4010]

After enduring Jane dough now I am relieved Caesar is coming

[@jbreitz87]

Ave Caesar.

[@youremotionalsupport194]

Caesar salad

[@AlwaysThirstys]

Ceasar is cooming?

[@Farweey]

who's coming?

[@SchifferThe2nd]

​@@Farweey he who is coming

[@analoque2412]

I use Jane, Rina, and Seth right now. Who should I replace if I get Burnice?

[@JDefends]

These are the first banners where I have no idea who's more important to pull for, if anyone. Idk if that means I should just skip 1.2 pulls entirely

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

It's not a bad idea, skip everything else and wait for Miyabi snice she's definitely going to be the STAR of patch 1

[@alexferrier5732]

​@@marclenraymagdaraog691Miyabi's animations are guaranteed to be top tier since katana characters are always flashy. But I find her design to be one of the most boring ones in this Game :/, can't have that.

[@Purpletrident]

Definitely want to pull for Burnice to put in my Grace/Seth team and swap piper in if necessary for weakness. Anomaly is so much fun! But I'm gonna hold for Miyabi afterwards. Love her design

[@exodus2oo]

I wonder if using Lucy, Burnice with Ben or Piper will work well :S?

[@elynna2483]

If i already have my team such as Jane Doe, Grace, Rina Should i pull for Burnice?

[@benoitgarin6477]

I might consider pulling for Burnice M0W1, since I’m guaranteed after losing on my M1 Jane

[@Saimeigaming]

is this video "CN thing" title about hes yoink from the CN community or for CN players ? im confused

[@QuietCrow009]

CN info analysis. Like sharing what they think to EN audiences

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

This is CN info analysis he just translates it.

[@izzyyheree]

He translate CN opinions on units as well as gives his own input about it. It's pretty simple.

[@takeuchikinoko2553]

I never felt the issue of Elen being hit out from her combo, since im always on the stunner until the enemy is stunned, and then unload with Elen. Am I playing the comp wrong?

[@betulla96]

Yes, Ellen wants more field time even when the enemy isn't stunned. Try to quickswap your stunner only for their main daze combos like EX skills or parries, then go straight back to Ellen for dps

[@takeuchikinoko2553]

@@betulla96 Thanks for the tip bro!

[@seunabe4612]

Am I crazy for never having problems finishing Ellen’s combos? I’ve never once had a point where I was like wow I wish I had anti interrupt on her

[@HerbIntake]

I agree but i think it would be good for when you need to refresh her stars and the enemy starts attacking so you have to dodge and then redo the attack (I’m guilty of this) instead you can just tank those hits and shorten your rotation

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

But if you play in Mobile you'd notice it easily. also that means you never dodge? how dafuq? you don't dodge using ellen how? man that's insane. cuz dodging is essentially breaking comboes.

[@RatchR]

I notice it a lot when you have two boss enemies on you. It's debatable how effective a shield would be in those scenarios since where I'd want it most is on the disputed nodes where enemies hit 5k+ DMG so Caesar will have her shield shattered in one hit

[@fluffbunn4175]

​@marclenraymagdaraog691 she gets tons of i-frames between basic 2 and 3 while also getting in the enemy's back. She kinda has built in anti interrupt

[@betulla96]

Same, I actually have this issue a lot more with Zhu Yuan. Whenever there's 2+ big enemies on the field, you generally only stun one at a time, and can often end up wasting your precious dps window because you'll get interrupted by the other one

[@klakhouse]

Seth buffs are nice, but they apply only to the units on field. only lucy(and piper) can buff off-field DPS like Burnice

[@forcodingg1287]

Caesar also can buff off-field

[@klakhouse]

@@forcodingg1287 only the on field character gets the attack buff. she has a debuff which would still affect off-field damage tho

[@forcodingg1287]

@@klakhouse Caesar : "she buffs the ENTIRE team with a Radiant Aegis shield equal to 1,400% of her base Impact + 1,400. The shield lasts for 90s and is equipped by the on-field character, with its value shared among the entire team. Any single instance of DMG will not exceed the Shield value. While Radiant Aegis is active, the shield bearer's Anti-Interrupt level is increased, and their ATK is increased by 1,000. After Radiant Aegis expires, the buff remains for an additional 5s." Seth : "causing another squad member to enter the field, that squad member gains a Shield of Firm Resolve equal to 80% of Seth's initial ATK, up to a max of 3,000 points, and lasting 25s. This effect can trigger once every 10s. Having a Shield of Firm Resolve increases Anomaly Proficiency by 100". Both of this character words it totally different. Basically, Caesar buff entire team. it's just the time on shield is tie on current on field character

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

@@klakhouse Her shield is the only one that's tied to the on field. buff works for off field units.

[@klakhouse]

@@forcodingg1287 it says "shield bearer's" which i took to mean the character on field. i could be wrong. we'll find out for sure soon

[@deystar_]

regard2ing jane team is likely to be worther pulling burnice?

[@Yoshimina]

I have the rat queen, so definitely going for the burn queen

[@FenixszG]

what is that npc ahh chat

[@K_mp3_]

I think Caesar is actually better for jane doe than for Ellen. Yes Ellen does have long animations but she also can employ hit and run tactics in a way other units can't. She doesn't need the defensive support as much (and something tells me a future unit will be released that works with the freeze mechanic allowing her to get off her long animations). Jane however is in the thick and thin of combat and needs the additional protection plus the anti interruption looks good for Jane's salchao spin the only issue between them is the fact that that would mean this patch has 2 units good for Jane which is alot

[@shmick19]

Ellen teleports in the middle of her basic...I never get hit with her. Zhu Yuan on the other hand I have had interrupted...and its such a short and important burst phase that it really hurts you. Kinda scuffed analysis ngl. Caeser would make more sense in teams where the dps wants less time out on field...why 0 mention of this? Is Pokke cooked? As for my personal view, as a relatable player BTW, having Ellen and Zhu Yuan teams clears everything, I have Lycaon and Qingyi and they will have to make it impossible to clear for me to build 3rd team/subbing in new units. Anomaly can go be anonymous.

[@baguettez99]

Caesar is broken and Burnice + her banner A-Ranks look amazing too

[@LusumiMusic]

burnice seems so tempting but also... what if an electro offield anomaly comes out in 1.3 which might synergize a bit more with jane and seth? :v

[@zap7737]

4:20 She is 1000000% a stun unit lmao. She scales off of Impact and her drive disk set boost impact. Defender units are just a different type of stun unit. Just like Anamoly is a DPS. Also, Jane Doe's best team is gonna be her with Burnice and Ceasar. Which is an absolutely diabolical move by Hoyo verse, to make people pull 3 units back to back to back lmao. And when are we gonna stop caring what CN thinks? lmao. The downplaying of Ceasar by them, is kind of insane. Idk if they havent seen her kit? or have, but dont get that its cracked? But she basically replaces every current support that people use lol. Is that cause theyre all 4 stars? Probably. But it is what it is.

[@melowmelow99]

I refuse to take out Lycaon in my Ellen team, she will be on my S11 team

[@shadowbreadd9505]

its a good thing you can have 3 characters not just 2.

[@cover1963]

tbh is most likely she will be used with lycaon since she basically is faster skk and also will stun faster

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

@@cover1963 The problem with Lycaon is he is the slowest STUNNNER in the entire game, Slower than Anby by a huge gap.

[@cover1963]

@@marclenraymagdaraog691 that video really did horrible rep for Lycaon cuz literal no one was saying this also the play style is literal counter to keep building up daze, if Lycaon stuns slower then I don’t think ceaser will stun any faster with 0 daze passive

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

I'm pulling for Ceasar.. people don't realize this, but the longer you play this game, the more or less you just want to use a unit that lets you play the game comfortably and safely. Anti Interrupt and basically shield is absurd. That's why Zhongli till this date in 4 years is still used by a lot of people, since you can just press a single skill and forget about it.

[@Don_Akane89]

This. You'll never know what kind of bs enemies they'll put out in the future & her kit nullifying whatever these mobs throw at you is extremely invaluable. Even if you're so good you won't need the shield, the anti-interrupt you'll get will also be a great thing to have when you're on the offensive. Them putting out a character this early though, I wonder if she'll remain the only one who can pull off something liek that for a long time, whether we'll get a second one, whether someone better will come along, and most importantly, whether there are going to be enemies that'll just void her shied partially/altogether. One thing I'm sure though, even when there are mobs that can nullify/get through her shield, just like zhongli's shield, it's still extremely useful on the grounds of having anti-interruption property alone, and that the shield itself will never see being completely voided. Additionally, in all her demos so far, lesser enemies that attack her shield all get staggered. This might not be the case for elites & bosses, but still interesting to see how they'd react upon attacking it. Honestly would be OP if they get staggered as well.

[@hieplong2649]

Yeah,i play on mobile so always need someone like zhongli

[@user-ii9lu8ln1c]

When I’m tired or smth i literally hold skill then slow walking around the enemies not tryna do anything cuz i know his shields that good

[@Alexander-dw3jw]

True but over time Zhongli slowly lost some value because people became better at the game so they didn't need a support like him as much and as more characters were released peoples used him less because he was too general of a support to ever be the best in slot character except for like in 2 geo teams

[@igg5974]

Mono fire would be bad because: Soldier 11 would contribute to burn while having bad anomaly stats, so burn damage would be lower than usual Attackers want both support and stun, while anomaly wants duo anomaly: you'd be half hearted for either strat

[@fugosfork7907]

ig i play without limited characters, can i just have a good looking adult male please?

[@mismismism]

Me impatiently waiting for Lighter, every time I run into him on the street.

[@kanaedesu63]

No

[@starsigma1155]

Wait for lighter

[@fugosfork7907]

@@starsigma1155 i think billy kid, lycaon and anton look infinitely better I don't like lighter's glasses. just gimme a manly man, man

[@fabrizzioarianmanfredi4844]

@@fugosfork7907 i would say drop the game because manly men aren't gonna be coming soon, it's either lighter or harumasa, and both aren't manly men, and i doubt they will release manly men since hoyoverse games are filled with twinks, there's a possibility they will release manly men, but probably mainly of other species rather than humans, one i can think of is big daddy.

[@TerraTheWise]

Caeser M0W1 and then it's saving for Lighter, Miyabi, and Harumasa.

[@gerfe2]

I'm waiting for the Lighter drip to see if Caeser is really good with him. If she doesn't then I'm not interested.

[@dr.strange1300]

Facts

[@gerfe2]

@XoloMictlan I mean I'll only pull her if all the cards align and everything in her kit is built for Lighter. I already have Seth as a shield unit, but I don't think he will go well w/ lighter at all so I would consider it if she is like "made for lighter" level synergy. Otherwise I'll just wait - if lighter is a damage dealer he will probably need a stunner more than anything.

[@presto6893]

​@@gerfe2Caesar has good daze you might as well just go for her if you want to use her with Lighter.

[@RinrinFran]

I play this game the same as I play WuWa since the characters will still continue their attacks until that animation ends so you swap for another character and it makes for some cool WIPEOUT scenes or minmax bullsh- strats for Shiyu defense.

[@yavnrh]

Looks like I'm going for Burnice.

[@alexferrier5732]

I wanted copies of Lucy but I dont want to accidentally get Burnice :/. I though Lucy was gonna be on Ceasar banner, but well, still all in on Ceasar

[@lain2k3]

I just started a week ago, Jane and Grace are my only S units so far. Who would be a better pull assuming I can only get one of these two?

[@SetRill-t9h]

Burnice

[@pingpong607]

Caesar

[@nikmerkulov2790]

It's too early to say

[@Narkos6033]

176 in 5 minutes he might be the goat

[@Local_Duck_]

That was a pretty good intro

[@s-lcd]

Fire- fuego patch 🔥

[@MrSilver222]

Word of advice for my f2p brethren, don't pull W-engines. Yes Caesars W-engine has no good f2p option, but that's 80 pulls that could get you Burnice or Yanagi, 80 is too much for a weapon. What would you rather have, +18% dmg +12% daze buff or a whole new agent that will be essential for disorder team?

[@alexferrier5732]

I would rather have the W-engine, cause I prefer vertical investment over horizontal. As of now we only need two teams, and already have them completed, so vertical does more for me. I'm not F2P tho, but I'm a light spender.

[@MrMarcuskane]

Noone asked buddy

[@youremotionalsupport194]

Caesar has a lot of things in her kit, mixed up like a salad. Lol. Get it?

[@fenrirlives2226]

AT LONG LAST THE TRIPLE SHIELD COMP IS ALMOST HERE.

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

Im gonna get ceasar for the parry alone, then save my poly for lighter the goat himself

[@folderrr]

Caesar and Burnice are coming, and so am I.

[@Zelphyn]

Unlike Caesar, Burnice's abilities isn't finalized yet, so it's hard to tell with her.

[@vasilismx87]

Why exactly we need a defender?

[@ahlemlora1452]

Because Razor is gonna come back with a vengence in the new shiyu mode

[@vasilismx87]

@ahlemlora1452 so you are saying he is gonna be a tough opponent?

[@presto6893]

To survive of course. "Just dodge" not everyone is that good. Defenders are nice cause they offer daze, support, and shields. My favorite class in this game

[@sln0782]

I want to play an anomaly team, 30 pulls for hard pity. 120 pulls left with like 70% of 1.1 content still available. Is it even possible for me to get Jane, Caesar and Bernice. Or am I being delusional??

[@sln0782]

I always buy the calendar thing and the pass

[@pingpong607]

Getting 3 banner characters back-to-back-to-back... is fairly low. In all likelyhood, you'll probably get 2 out of 3. With a standard banner character thrown in. Or you win everything at early pity. Gotta believe in the gacha gods.

[@sln0782]

@@pingpong607 the thing is, I prefer Burnice and Caesar over Jane, so idk if I should risk it or go safe and skip Jane Doe. I guess I will go safe and skip this banner also

[@Crummock-bu2in]

I’m not sure I’m a believer in mono element for dot. You just dilute the dot damage without ever getting the full effect. I think Burnice looks great tho

[@PrometheanSein]

It's not so much about dot but as it's about being good additional off-field damage and constant burn for fire CR disks. But yeah, yet to see how good it is and obviously double anomaly is better.

[@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184]

that's why dot wants disorder, they had the highest dot disorder damage.

[@Crummock-bu2in]

@@PrometheanSeinfrom my experience with Jane Anomalies are 80+% of the dmg. Unless Burnice has wayyyy more raw dmg in her kit if you aren’t popping those 13 sec burns into disorders you are gonna lose a lot of dmg.

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

​@@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 Dot disorder is just you cutting off the current dot damage to show up as screenshot in order to re-apply the dot again... So technically it's still the same as running off the same dot dmg you already have activated just now compiled and combined with the other dot dmg you applied. That's why mono team works . like full on shock teams and freeze teams, since ultimately it still the same damage, just instead of you watching small numbers tick you see a compiled damage in one go. What makes disorder very good is it works very well against stunned enemies, since daze and disorder multipliers works very well.

[@Crummock-bu2in]

@@marclenraymagdaraog691 are you sure? I was under the impression that stacking shock on top of shock just reset the duration without procing the leftover shock.

[@sevxone]

Fire

[@leeviheiskanen1271]

I think Piper and Ceasar could be really good teammates, because Pipes likes onfield time, and her EX attacks is really fast causing enemies to possibly be stunned thank to Ceasar's shield

[@angelkronos4797]

I just have 1 team. Jane, Grace, Seth. Have all 4* but not build. Have S11 + main 5* Weapon. Which should i pull ? In rly not good with team, so a pull what u like doesnt work for me.. help plz😅

[@Onikabutofirstsisterlater]

Since you can also divide your team. If you pull Cesar, then Jane, Seth, Nicole/Luci & Grace, Anby, Piper/Luci. If you pull Burnice then Jane, Seth, Luci/Burnice & Grace, Luci/Burnice, Anby. I can list a lot more, theres really no shortcut to team building, you may take refference from others, but at the end of the day you have to figure out yourself, that's part of the game.

[@Cantpaybills]

how to utilize burnice with caesar in d same Burn team?

[@Xjesus14X]

11:20 I will NEVER replace Grace. That is all

[@auditionrus6386]

I have m4 ellen, so... i will pull Caesar xd

[@jijidu69]

Caesar buffs are strong enough that she looks to be better for Jane teams. Disorder is not very good honestly.

[@choochoo3041]

We are not GENSHIN PU**IES who relies on ZHONGLI'S BRAINDEAD SHIELD to win. If we cant PARRY, JUST DODGE. CAESAR KING is a EZ-est SKIP (btw, her animation is fk mid).

[@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_]

finaly ellen can finish her combo and charge attack without knocking back or hit cancel..

[@DaedLizrad]

Personally I think Ceasars gonna boost the physical dps that exist into the meta, especially a c6 Corin. Stacking her with a c6 Lucy for a massive attack boost that cant be interupted seems pretty good in concept.

[@dalhaval283]

i pulled qingyi coz she stuns comfortably but i lost her, anby just gets interrupted too much, so caesar might fix that

[@hamutasa3]

1:28 i think our bear has it too right??

[@TheRedEyeChannel]

I think the anti-interrupt of Cesar isn't going to benefit long animation dps the most. Instead, I think it's going to benefit anomaly disorder teams. You have a small window to apply the secondary anomaly and when the 1st one is a dot, it's even more important to engage the 2nd anomaly asap to dump the dot damage as a nuke. Getting hit slows down generation and possibly risks missing the window to apply disorder.

[@Yyoi6667]

It's true, sometimes it's very annoying to use Ellen when fighting enemies who have brutal attacks that hinder Ellen's dmg. However, Ellen is the DPS with the biggest DMG compared to NA, so we need support who can provide interruptions when Ellen is in action.

[@yyhn7168]

Cesar first ever perfect block? ben exists tho

[@ezeqielramirez8016]

What if i have both Ellen and Jane Doe? Ellen, Lycaon, Soukaku Jane Doe, Seth, Koleda

[@xOscarAx]

chat i wasnt paying attention, i had this playing in the background. can i get a TLDR on which of these characters has the most value?

[@Vem711]

Are you too lazy to get good and learn dodging? If yes, pull for Caesar. Do you play anomaly teams and still struggle? Pull Burnice Otherwise just save probably, both are quite skip able

[@juryrigg5568]

No pulls count? :(

[@zxcxzxc]

skipping both this patch since jane drained me

[@jondysayz]

ellen and jane havers are torn.

[@loctran3946]

get burnice cuz we might get lighter in 1.3

[@set7618]

Im gonna skip 1.2 and wait for Lighter zaddy

[@scopeyui240]

Jane doe reject me so imma get Caesar

[@NeFlorence]

So what you’re saying is… I should get both for Jane because Burnice is gonna be great for Disorder and Caesar will shield Jane during her Spinny Spin attack move Got it

[@Yenrei]

Seth also shields her, plus he buffs AP

[@gerfe2]

Yea yea get every unit obviously.

[@gerfe2]

@@Yenrei She doesn't need shields or AP she should be dodge attacking and she already has 600+ anomaly. Seth benefits units like Piper a lot more than Jane. I thin he's very underrated at the moment due to everyone only considering him w/ respect to Jane.

[@NeFlorence]

@@Yenrei If you look at leaks, Caesar gives a free 1000 ATK to every character that has shields Idk what the exact math is on Seth’s AP buff vs Caesar’s ATK buff but that much ATK + Interruption resist? I’ll take that over Seth any day lol

[@mrdeafter]

​@@NeFlorenceJane has zero need for interruption resistance because her spin already has both damage reduction and interruption resistance lol also, 1000 atk buff isn't even new or that strong compared to 40% def shredded or 100 AP

[@mindflex947]

gonna pair her with nekomata

[@LazyCatOnTheRoof]

Sad Anby noises in the corner ... 😢

[@rnghosti]

zhongli? daze? using with ellen because she can't finish a combo? 😂 this doesn't seen right

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

He should have used Corin or Piper as an example instead,. but it's through you do get interrupted a lot while on Ellen's combo, since you have to dodge and that kills the combo and you lose out on the highest damage multiplier on her combo. People just say dodge doesn't know how much dmg they are missing out.

[@Jason_Brody]

ez Burnice pick

[@Scoutzknives]

Tough Burnice pick for me. Ceaser looks generally kind of cracked. But I love anomaly and Jane, and since Seth exists I think it has to be Burnice. Maybe if Ceaser stands the test of time till a rerun I'll pull for her.

[@WithoutException]

MIYABI PULLERS HOLD

[@ChristianHau]

Why no healer in this game? 😅

[@Thedoorway123]

Get better that's all

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

Because defense exist ig

[@nzungupumu1350]

Not that kinda game

[@melowmelow99]

Healer Bangboo is your guy

[@vesperthorn90]

they don't want you to facetank everything

[@CountJest]

Caesarrrrrrrrr!

[@whathedogdoin2277]

All I know is that I’m not pulling (out)

[@GZE._]

❤❤

[@solemityprudent1869]

14:52 Buhrnice is not even out yet and bro already caught that brain rot. Bruh

[@gerfe2]

I think Piper and Jane Doe are actually two completely different units. The community hasn't caught onto it yet but there's a pretty clear distinction between anomaly buildup type units and anomaly prof type units. Jane has HUGE damage on her anomaly procs, but she builds it more slowly than a unit like Piper whose entire kit is centered around quickly proccing assault. There's going to be two different kinds of anomaly teams. Disorder which favors buildup speed for more procs and pure anomaly which favors high dmg% and prof for maximum damage when you proc. Jane doesn't really even want a unit like Seth/Rina/Grace proccing anomalies she wants to be left alone to maximize damage. Piper on the other hand has underwhelming anomaly dmg but can pop an entire assault bar in like 5 seconds. Also, what you said about Caeser replacing Lycaon over Soukaku is wrong. If you want to maximize damage you use maximize your stunning. Caeser and Soukaku may have huge damage during stuns but w/o Lycaon you're inflicting stuns 20% as often.

[@l0st1nv0id]

Yes, that’s why they made Jane’s passive to work when there’s another Anomaly agent present… lol. Jane is definitely created with disorder in mind. Piper is literally js a 4* and Jane is her premium replacement, that is very common in gacha games

[@forcodingg1287]

Not Really, Caesar has pretty huge Impact Especially if you pull her w-engine. Even if you don't, you can use Stun w-engine, for the mainstats impact only. The difference probably under 10%, Somebody already Calcs Caesar can match Lycaon in terms of buff. Lycaon still the best for Ellen, But The Harder enemy Like Shadow Jane (who can parry you) for example then there is possibilty Caesar could be better with Her interruption

[@SeekGrace]

Idk about Caesar but I need FeiXiao to come home.

[@ossmboy7914]

Holy sh*t.... I think lot of people are going for caeser and really over glazing her. Her banner is mid like anton and piper. Ben is really underrated and he also does so many things similar to ceaser so i will built my M6 Ben and skip ceaser 😂. Burnice on the other hand does differently. She has best 4stars on her banner too like lucy and nicole. Iam personally going to pull for Burnice ❤ as she will make my jane team complete.

[@MarkFin9423]

aight, good luck with that cope. Have fun with those long animations. Oh, btw that ben counter, you can still take damage mid counter animation. Surely wont be an issue as enemies get more active with difficulty.

[@ossmboy7914]

@@MarkFin9423 thanks for the support MidFin

[@tonyghoul3555]

​@ossmboy7914 Ngl that sounds like a cope no offense. I agree that Burnice is hotter and cuter but she is definetely not the better character. Ceaser brings too much to the game and before you say that I am a glazer I have skipped every single banner except Ellen for Miyabi so I don't glaze anyone except Miyabi.

[@ossmboy7914]

@@tonyghoul3555 iam not coping..... You will see it in the future yourself that her buffs are not that huge and future supports will be more viable that gives more buffs. In zzz you don't even need Shields. ZhuYuan deals dmg in stun window and jane counterattacks as well as seth is already on her team.

[@tracksfrl4096]

uuuuu

[@progaming-ok8tq]

Hehe

[@goataku1154]

2 min 50 views blud fell off

[@ottomanswag]

Fire

[@pluto940]

fire

[@SenMid]

Fire