The Best Swimbait You've Never Heard Of (But Your Friends Have)

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TacticalBassin

TacticalBassin

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@jeepslivin
@jeepslivin 7 жыл бұрын
i realize the trash fish is better qaulity than the sick fish. but for the $ ..How much better? would like to see a side by side comparison with some underwater footage. You guys are the best!
@RealisticFishing
@RealisticFishing 7 жыл бұрын
Looks kinda like a carp or a sucker... nice!
@davidwalsh623
@davidwalsh623 7 жыл бұрын
After purchasing several different sizes of the Trash fish I got a change to use it last weekend, I have to say they are awsome! I have to say its raised my level of fishing, normally at the lake I bring in 1 - 3 lbs bass but using the trash fish I have rasied that to 4.5 - 5lbs. Much bigger class of fish, I know there are bigger ones in there and I'm sure I'm going to be hooking into those soon. Thanks for the videos guys and keep up the good work!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
That's so awesome, great job David!
@Fishmaster1011
@Fishmaster1011 7 жыл бұрын
Getting that fall swimbait fever over here in Louisiana, catching good fish off the river when I find clear water back in the creeks.
@mohammadyaqoub5350
@mohammadyaqoub5350 7 жыл бұрын
Best place to learn how to become a better angler. Thank you guys
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SkinnyWaterBoyzTV
@SkinnyWaterBoyzTV 7 жыл бұрын
I just paused the video and ordered one
@dylandaniel6298
@dylandaniel6298 7 жыл бұрын
SkinnyWaterBoyzTV Barela I did the same when they mentioned it a few weeks ago.
@SkinnyWaterBoyzTV
@SkinnyWaterBoyzTV 7 жыл бұрын
hell yeah !! and my buddy literally just told me about it this past weekend haha how did he know my friends would know haha
@williamfarnsworth27
@williamfarnsworth27 6 жыл бұрын
I've had a bag and never thought to use them
@jayp9279
@jayp9279 7 жыл бұрын
This video helped catch a 4.5lb and a 5.5lb fish this week on the 6”. Thanks for your help Tim. I owe you guys a huge thanks!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
+JAYB1RD79 FISHING Yeah buddy!! Great job!
@realjeffgarrett
@realjeffgarrett 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen some mixed views on rigging the 6” and 6” fat. You guys seem to like a 6/0 beast hook, but the guys at Little Creeper like an 8/0 🤔 Is an 8/0 too much hook? Can I get away with throwing the 6” w/ beast hook on a Fury 795? Thank you guys for all you do!
@raymondpraglowski5134
@raymondpraglowski5134 6 жыл бұрын
looks great ordered some cant wait to try it out I ordered 3 6 inch and 4 4 inch to try out hope they work good in the north east
@rtukua1
@rtukua1 4 жыл бұрын
How did you rig the 4” Little Creeper on spinner reel? Did you use braid or jig? My apology but I am brand new to bass fishing and learning all I can to challenge my husband and they boys when we fish. Appreciate your videos and how simple you explain things.
@RockyTopSplash
@RockyTopSplash 6 жыл бұрын
Lol... can we get a "hope you guys can see that" count. Good video Tim. Always enjoy em'
@ChuckJacksontampaphotographer
@ChuckJacksontampaphotographer 6 жыл бұрын
AHHHH! Toothpick to keep hook from sliding! *GREAT TIP* - THANK YOU!
@xanderfishing4973
@xanderfishing4973 7 жыл бұрын
So glad to watch this video I've been looking into the trash fish. perfect time to see this!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@azen2004
@azen2004 7 жыл бұрын
They've been around for a minute but are still super effective
@odinsonscreations957
@odinsonscreations957 7 жыл бұрын
I think the reason things develop quick out there you have the willingness to try different things I know guys here in new england who think you cant catch big fish on a swim bait! 😂😂😂😂 I know first hand thats wrong I have tried eveything you guys have taught and it has paid off in spades here! Thanks for the videos and keeping us up to date here on the east coast.
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Ha! You're so right. Its amazing how stuck in their ways fishermen can get.
@metaloutlander
@metaloutlander 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like the sick fish.
@MrBmayes32
@MrBmayes32 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate these in depth videos and range of sizes and recommendations i will be picking some of the smaller ones up for sure!
@JJ-bl8tp
@JJ-bl8tp 7 жыл бұрын
Good explanation. Nice video. The tip about the hook set is spot on.
@fishing4reel479
@fishing4reel479 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone tell your friends about this channel! They should have more subs than what they do! Thank you for teaching everyone guys! Awesome video!👊💥
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@robbyhilario8595
@robbyhilario8595 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I could give this more than one thumbs up. This is great advice that I will for sure use this fall. Perfect timing for this vid too. Love the video and the channel 👍👍👍👍
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robby!
@mikecraig5269
@mikecraig5269 7 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, Matt. Have a few of these but will buy other models/sizes of them. They have worked for me many times.
@tedmccarthy1401
@tedmccarthy1401 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for sharing!!!! Trash Fish is my next purchase!
@GMarshfishing
@GMarshfishing 3 жыл бұрын
Are y’all still using this? Is it good during the prespawn/spawn?
@Erik-pf7gm
@Erik-pf7gm 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how to measure/weigh fish for a record?
@fernandosolis3647
@fernandosolis3647 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Tim could you compare your power to like fast or extra fast for me thanks. I know you or Matt have done a video on this before but instead of rods on the upper end I have more that don't state the power thanks again.
@mitchelldean7067
@mitchelldean7067 7 жыл бұрын
great video wil hav to pick one up sometime, I live in the southeast and fish mainy pretty clear lakes and want to build my confidnce in big swimbait fishing. which trashfish would you recommend me starting out with to build my confidence?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
6" Original
@MarkNJBass
@MarkNJBass 7 жыл бұрын
Great information Tim.....if you could be a little more specific about how you put those tooth picks in it would be much appreciated. I have quite a few of the 6" and 4" baits and I need to fish them more. Thank You! Mark
@MarkNJBass
@MarkNJBass 7 жыл бұрын
Actually I watched it again and I think I've got it. Thanks again!
@culprit1985
@culprit1985 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, the trash fish been getting it done in my high pressured fisheries down here close to san diego. Berkeley came out with the sick fish. Trash fish is a much more flexible swimbait that works great in cold water still has swim at slow speeds under 50 degrees. Berkley sick fish just doesn't perform in cold water.
@YankeeTankerOutdoors
@YankeeTankerOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын
Tim.. If you were to do the 6 in - could you do the bladerunner hook? And what size? Thanks!
@richardbossman9875
@richardbossman9875 6 жыл бұрын
Using a jighook with the 6" fatty was mentioned but nothing else about it. What would be the best jig hook for bumping along gravel/ small rock along with occasional patches of "muck" ? Also for the 6 and 8" which hook setup keeps the bait from rolling on it's side on those slow crawls on bottom?
@garcj108
@garcj108 7 жыл бұрын
do you think is better to fish this with bright sunny conditions or cloudy los light conditions?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter, both can be equally effective
@droussanidis
@droussanidis 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, why the trokar for the sunfish instead of the owner beast? Shape, hook gap, length of point, weight size? You and Matt make great videos, thought I would ask a few more details on the hook choice.
@joshuaphaup2129
@joshuaphaup2129 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, the rod that you use for the 6 inch trash fish. Is that also a good rod for other 6in soft plastic swimbaits? Like a new big kietechs?
@dgroves85
@dgroves85 7 жыл бұрын
Quick question. Are you guys throwing this bait primarily for largemouth? Or do you throw them for spots and smallies too? If so I'm guessing the 4-6inch? If I were to throw it for spots do you have any color recommendations?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
They work for all 3 species and the 6" is the most universal size. KC Ghost is a killer spot color... but most of them work really well.
@hammerrough4204
@hammerrough4204 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect vid with coffee Tim! 78k almost there! Great work!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!
@butcherhead64
@butcherhead64 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the ghost 6 inch and caught fish the first time using it! I was wondering what your best 3 colors would be for the Midwest region ( Indiana )
@jasongrigsby2017
@jasongrigsby2017 7 жыл бұрын
Id like to see an underwater video of the action.
@pingwongkimjr1098
@pingwongkimjr1098 7 жыл бұрын
^^^
@JJ-bl8tp
@JJ-bl8tp 7 жыл бұрын
There is one on here somewhere. Or at tackle warehouse site.
@telefunkenyou47
@telefunkenyou47 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Grigsby - Underwater action - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaOuhIt8qceUeLc
@jasongrigsby2017
@jasongrigsby2017 7 жыл бұрын
Outcast Outdoors thank you
@jimschollhammer5270
@jimschollhammer5270 Жыл бұрын
owner does not make a 4/0 flashy swimmer, they make a 3/0 or 5/0 which should you use?
@ericcartman8354
@ericcartman8354 7 жыл бұрын
I got a few of the very first trash fish that came out about 5 years ago, had a few of them together in my box and they melted together and then turned hard. They were in the closet inside the house too, not in the heat. Havent tried them again since
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Bummer! We've got a lot of old baits and haven't experienced that.
@Shanester66
@Shanester66 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim...I picked up a few of these baits to try. My question is regarding the Sunfish with the 5/0 Trokar. The hook point rides pretty low to the bait. Its in the slot but as the 6/0 beast rides basically flush with the top of the trash fish, the Trokar is nestled down pretty far. Any advice? Will this hinder the bite? Not sure I could rig it any differently considering the width of the Sunfish. Thanks buddy.
@ethanbarnhart8027
@ethanbarnhart8027 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video.
@keatonbarr8756
@keatonbarr8756 6 жыл бұрын
I live and fish in Washington state. Do you think that this would be a good bait for up here on the wet side of the state?
@kylekurka3518
@kylekurka3518 7 жыл бұрын
I've always like these, especially the gill. Looks like this video caused TW to sell out of the 6" in pretty much every color!
@logansherman3648
@logansherman3648 3 жыл бұрын
what jig hook size should you fish the original and the baby trash fish on?
@Pateram
@Pateram 7 жыл бұрын
Tha backdrops are AMAZING!!!
@masonmyrick873
@masonmyrick873 7 жыл бұрын
I ordered the 6 in white pearl I'm skeptical but I trust you guys so I'm giving it a shot
@codymilner6890
@codymilner6890 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet Tim-o-line, oooh oooh ooooohh
@danmcmanigal1978
@danmcmanigal1978 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. I've ordered and received the 6" fatty and was curious what Blade Runner Swimbait hook you recommend. You recommended the 6/0 for the 8" fatty so just curious. Thanks guys! Your videos are some of my favorites on the web!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 6 жыл бұрын
The 4/0 is the way to go.
@blewerwes1
@blewerwes1 4 жыл бұрын
Mend it saved my life. I ordered my first huddie, and got it in. They stapled the pack through the tail so when i let my son open it he ripped the pack pulling the staple through the tail, Mend it saved my life. made it look new again
@925hardknox
@925hardknox 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think about throwing on the dirty delta during fall ?
@AteAnnasvlogNePhil
@AteAnnasvlogNePhil 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bruce Greetings from Nepal I watch full It was a Great moment to be with u while u do fishing I hope u can come and see what is inside in Nepal thank u much
@thebigshow5696
@thebigshow5696 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have to have clear water for the trash fish lakes in my area only have a foot of visibility or so, what about ark river system will these work in these type fisheries? Thanks live yalls videos
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Clear water is great but not required at all. Our lake has 1' visibility all Fall and we're catching them on it.
@xDx0xUxGx
@xDx0xUxGx 4 жыл бұрын
Do the sunfish, 4 inch and 6 inch have the same cavity as the 8 for an internal weight?
@andrewwolf4963
@andrewwolf4963 5 жыл бұрын
The Havoc sick fish works the same way both are amazing
@JBworkz
@JBworkz 6 жыл бұрын
Matt/Tim, What insert would you run on the fatty ? and weighted or unweighted beast?
@grantlee4083
@grantlee4083 7 жыл бұрын
Could i throw this on my Muskie set up? Also since I like in pike land I'm I gonna get bit off/ripped up a lot?
@Tbowie13
@Tbowie13 3 жыл бұрын
Mend-it, Mend-it, Mend-it...lol. These get tore up by bass, I can't imagine what Pike and Musky would do to it. I got hardbaits that are tooth riddled from when I lived in Indiana and caught alot of Musky and Pike. I throw pricy baits alot (I-Slides, Defiant, Deps) but don't know if I'd spend $20 to maybe catch just 1 fish before the bait was destroyed. Good luck either way. Just realized this was a 3 yr old post...lol, oh well.
@minenotyours2411
@minenotyours2411 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I got a lot of them for 1.99 and you had showed me so much in 10 min .....love your channal
@brandonk9849
@brandonk9849 5 жыл бұрын
those arw sick fish not trash fish sick fish are way harder the trash fish is 20 bucks
@TurdFerguson1000
@TurdFerguson1000 7 жыл бұрын
I fish mostly dirty or stained water. Do these work in dirty water? If so which color do you recommend?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
They do. Use the bolder chartreuse shad colors
@davidwalsh623
@davidwalsh623 7 жыл бұрын
I was looking for the 4/0 flashy swimmer and it appears there is only 1/0, 3/0 and 5/0 on tackle warehouse. should I use the 3/0 or the 5/0 on the 4" trash fish?
@MotorcycleMouse
@MotorcycleMouse 6 жыл бұрын
How do you attach your leaders and what makes you pick what weight line?
@jamesfritz5375
@jamesfritz5375 4 жыл бұрын
80lb braid to 25 lb fluro? How bigs the knot! Does it even pass thru the eyes on your pole?
@bassjunkie4881
@bassjunkie4881 4 жыл бұрын
Love the sunfish only thing to m having luck with right now
@timweiss5487
@timweiss5487 7 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! Keep up the good work!!!! Thank you!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks TIm!
@justinharrold8977
@justinharrold8977 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get the 6 ought blade runner hood to stay in? Mine keeps coming out
@tagbdf1033
@tagbdf1033 7 жыл бұрын
Would love a vid of your leader knots that you use for the bigger lines.
@norrycha9844
@norrycha9844 7 жыл бұрын
What colors do you guy highly recommend? There are so many to pick from?
@edritchie270
@edritchie270 7 жыл бұрын
I looked at the Little creeper web site . What exactly is the TO? Tucked out version vs non ?
@bobgill4069
@bobgill4069 5 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Berkley Sick Fish line? I know that the Berkley bait is based off of the sick fish but for the recreational angler or the budget conscious angler do you have any experience with those?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, my experience has been that they're really rigid and don't work anywhere near as well as the original.
@bobgill4069
@bobgill4069 5 жыл бұрын
@@tacticalbassin OK. Thanks for the reply. I haven't used them yet but I have a few packs. I'll try and boil them to see if that softens them up some and helps with the action.
@McClovinFishing
@McClovinFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, I’ve heard of people experiencing failures with the twistlock on the beast hook. Have you had any problems with it? How can I make sure the twistlock from failing?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't had ANY problems, not sure what there is to fail.
@McClovinFishing
@McClovinFishing 6 жыл бұрын
TacticalBassin The screw lock itself, some say it’s too short and rips out of the plastic on hard casts. But thanks for the response, I’ll give them a solid try 👍
@mikeymallory2951
@mikeymallory2951 5 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this over the Hudds
@robertfitzgerald569
@robertfitzgerald569 6 жыл бұрын
What color do you suggest
@nick2sick442
@nick2sick442 7 жыл бұрын
My brother put me on these. They work well but you're right hook up ratio can be a problem
@mcaetano2000
@mcaetano2000 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen a video where they say if you remove the top of the tail fin the tail will have a wider action. Maybe it's better when fishing in summer!
@fishing4reel479
@fishing4reel479 7 жыл бұрын
Will this work in muddy or really stained water! And what color is the best for these conditions?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. White, Chartreuse Shad, use the bold colors.
@gianfrancocurotto4051
@gianfrancocurotto4051 7 жыл бұрын
How long a leader do you tie for clear water? Have you had any success on this bait for spotted bass?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
8-10 feet and yes we have
@aaronfortner6582
@aaronfortner6582 4 жыл бұрын
Good jig head for the 4 inch model???
@kylehenderson2257
@kylehenderson2257 7 жыл бұрын
I believe Havoc makes a similar style bait, have y'all tried it and would that be comparable to the trash fish? As always thanks so much for the in depth videos you both put out! I continue to learn so much every week
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Its literally a replica of the 6" original trash fish but they made it very stiff and never got it right. They're not the same bait AT ALL.
@romanianbushido
@romanianbushido 7 жыл бұрын
So how long do these typically last if you use Mend-It (which is really a must have itself)?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Quite a while. Of course you can get an especially brutal fish that mangles a bait but in general you're going to catch a lot of fish on a bait with mend it.
@gabrielstroope7045
@gabrielstroope7045 5 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have a rigging video for the trash fish sunfish
@jfrizzy96
@jfrizzy96 7 жыл бұрын
What color would you recommend for a very clear water fishery with a good Threadfin and gizzard shad population in Texas? Thank you for your help.
@pattywatts4640
@pattywatts4640 7 жыл бұрын
In any clearwater lake you want to use natural colors
@CODnumber2
@CODnumber2 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Froese lite hitch ghosted just shad and ghosted bbh
@financegrunt
@financegrunt 6 жыл бұрын
TIm, What blade runner size would you use for the 6" ? 4/0?
@TexasJohnFishing
@TexasJohnFishing 7 жыл бұрын
Great bait! Great video Tim!
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!
@fishsnatcherstv6292
@fishsnatcherstv6292 7 жыл бұрын
If you could only pick one color, which would you choose? And does that vary between 6” and 8”?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Oh man, they're all killers. Honestly they're such neutral tones I'm not convinced it really matters. Natural Hitch looks a little like everything.
@fishsnatcherstv6292
@fishsnatcherstv6292 7 жыл бұрын
TacticalBassin sounds good! Thanks for the tip guys. I’ll let you know how they do on the Potomac River once I can grab a few!
@mikeravet1645
@mikeravet1645 7 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video fishing with it?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! Its on the list. As soon as our water clears up we will get you some underwater video as well
@fishing4reel479
@fishing4reel479 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome!👍
@wesleyosburn6789
@wesleyosburn6789 4 жыл бұрын
@@tacticalbassinwhat colors does it come in?
@jacobkrueger1920
@jacobkrueger1920 7 жыл бұрын
After looking at your Instagram post about this bait. I noticed some people, including myself, are confused why you use a mono leader instead of a flouro leader since its a top hook bait?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Its all about shock absorption. Visibility isn't an issue. Once you peg the fish and are fighting them to the boat you need a little shock absorber to keep from bending a hook, blowing out the fish's lip, etc.
@landonmiller5449
@landonmiller5449 7 жыл бұрын
A totally unrelated comment but what line size would you use for fishing senkos in mostly open water applivations
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
12 lb
@Bran-don3
@Bran-don3 7 жыл бұрын
is the crappie trash fish worth getting? I fish a reservoir that is mainly crappie
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely!
@Bran-don3
@Bran-don3 7 жыл бұрын
TacticalBassin as good as the original?
@noahrosetta1260
@noahrosetta1260 7 жыл бұрын
will the jig hook work for the six inch?
@jameskahl3484
@jameskahl3484 7 жыл бұрын
What color was the 6 inch fatty and 8 inch please. I like the way they look. But on warehouse they do not have a good picture. Thanks tim i live in Virginia and i bet the fish will like it.
@CODnumber2
@CODnumber2 7 жыл бұрын
james kahl the colors you saw and want are blowback herring and lc hitch. try the blueback in clear tucked out and regular. wish we made them when I lived on buggs island 9 years ago
@natetrout1
@natetrout1 7 жыл бұрын
Wondering which color best matches patterns in Texas reservoirs. Specifically central Texas.
@frankb1069
@frankb1069 7 жыл бұрын
Love the swimbait videos
@ronhuckobey707
@ronhuckobey707 7 жыл бұрын
What budget rod do you recommend for the 6and 8inch baits? Also the reel for each
@ScuffedEngineer
@ScuffedEngineer 7 жыл бұрын
I can at least give you good options for reels. 6" a casitas and 8" a Cardiff 300. The 6" really just needs a heavy powered rod, Tim said a 4-5 power rod so. You could use a Dobyns Fury 795 for the 8" since it should be within it's true working range of under 3-3.5oz.
@andyd834
@andyd834 7 жыл бұрын
awesome video, do you guys fish the optimum boom boom?
@ismaelkharodia786
@ismaelkharodia786 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Tim, the owner flashy swimmer doesn’t come in a 4/0, should I go with a 3/0 or 5/0 Thank you
@billyhenderson1911
@billyhenderson1911 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man like video can you throw that trash fish and all spray fish and a megabass fish bait in dirty water just want to know because I'm down here in Dallas Texas I want to know could y'all touch bases on that
@kami_flynn4610
@kami_flynn4610 6 жыл бұрын
what weight and size hook on that blade runner ?
@outpostjared7835
@outpostjared7835 4 жыл бұрын
when you get one 3 years after release. EAST COAST lol
@hc_gabe4078
@hc_gabe4078 7 жыл бұрын
Would a 7’3” Heavy be okay for the 4”? And does that blue gill really work?
@JJ-bl8tp
@JJ-bl8tp 7 жыл бұрын
Hard to get a hook set. Yes they work but there are better blue Gill soft baits out there.
@hc_gabe4078
@hc_gabe4078 7 жыл бұрын
J J Ok thanks
@MrPanchito2233
@MrPanchito2233 7 жыл бұрын
Could this be a good bait to use in ponds and creeks?
@tacticalbassin
@tacticalbassin 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@culprit1985
@culprit1985 5 жыл бұрын
Also out here in these high pressured lakes if you can weight your suspending jerk baits to where they suspend nose up and let em sit may get a few more bites.
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