The BEST TF2 Mod Nobody Plays

[@blamo476]

Second comment I know, but now that I've gotten around to watching the whole video I have some corrections to make for the audience (as someone on the dev team myself, albeit an SFM artist specifically) that I hope you wouldn't mind. At least where it matters most, so apologies for the wall of text. And feel free to inform me on anything I miss myself 6:06 There's also "Mercenary Domination" as the other mainstay as later mentioned at 11:30, which is pretty much what you would expect. It basically functions similarly, if not identical to, domination in tf2c where the more points you hold the faster you reach the score limit. Mdom is one of my favorites personally speaking. TDM would also be more fun if servers had a more appropriate player cap for the maps available imo, which are usually made for 12-16 players on FFA for reference. There's also "mpush" in which someone has to capture the neutral flag at the opposing team's base rather than retreating to your own. It's pretty much like the original gamemode in tfc. There's Infection which isn't considered a gamemode iirc but is still expansive, in which the zombie team (blu) has to infect all of the survivors (red) or they lose, much like in the Halo games. It's also possible to play stock gamemodes like CP or PL but those are unofficially supported and not advised. So really, there's still a surprisingly amount of variety for an "Open Alpha" even if FFA is by far the most played (since its easy to get games going there.) 7:12 Arsenal is what is called a "mutator" in AFPS rather than a separate "gamemode" in the same vein as CTF or Domination. These can be thought of as mini "rulesets" that change up gameplay beyond what is expected for the stock gamemode. Arsenal is one example but other examples include Instagib, Gun Game, Unholy trinity (Rockets, Rail, and LG w/ infinite ammo.) This means that you can have a round of Arsenal playing CTF or Instagib on MDOM 7:52 Not really a correction, but part of the reason why CTF is actually tolerable is also because of "return on touch." This means that if a flag is dropped, someone can instantly return said flag to their base simply by standing on it. This is also common in other afps games ive played such as Quake Champions, since its a much better fit for this sort of pacing rather than waiting for minutes like in tf2. 9:32 I want to confirm that yes, this wiki is unofficial and probably hasn't been updated for years. For example, Mercenary is from New York City canonically, not Nevada (and I'm pretty sure the wiki creator -who I won't name- claimed that this was their head canon that they decided to stick with) 9:48 While there are MGE rulesets available for "Duel" as an option, it's more than that. Namely because item control is even more important in duel than it is in the more mainstream modes. So to make it quick, the emphasis on strategy is more important than one would realize rather than purely homing in on your raw DM skill. Like in MGE, some people choose to play with a frag limit, but the preferred method is to play to a time limit. This is partly because (at least speaking from experience) snowballing is duel is frequent, so you never know when someone takes back control of power positions and items. Typically 10 minutes is the standard in all of the quake-likes i've played (QC, QL, Reflex Arena, Doombringer, CPMA) 11:58 This Hightower variant is a community made port, though with all the maps OF is getting from both the official team and community I can see the mix-up. 15:18 Personally I think this would be overkill alongside other suggestions imo. I think kritz are fine as is, or at the very least theres no plan on changing any of the powerups substantially after reflecting was added to the berserk powerup. Powerups are meant to be super powerful as you've mentioned, as you're supposed to time their spawns, or at the very least fight over them, basically a reward for picking your fights well leading up to that point. I noticed that too many new players just ignore kritz for example 20:00 I too take issue with how easy the gatling gun can be. Though that mainly lies within the fact that most servers (at least the most popular ones I play here in the US) have "weapon stay" enabled, which means that weapons don't have to respawn after being picked up. That, and weapon spawns give you only around 50% of a weapon's max ammo pool by default (with some exceptions such as the LG.) The gatling gun was designed with an ammo economy in mind, as instead of focusing on just individual kills, you're supposed to treat it as a "room clearer" while collecting more ammo boxes that way (In OF, players drop small ammo boxes instead of medium ones like in TF2.) So some servers just bypass the ammo penalty entirely. Weirdly enough it was probably one of the harder weapons to design both from a visual and gameplay perspective, as one could easily make the minigun equivalent feel too underwhelming for what it is. 25:14 The rocket launcher actually has a smaller blast radius and a smaller ammo reserve (16 instead of 20) but I can see how easy this would be to miss 26:34 Before the Chainsaw was able to trimp like you would in TF2, but the "airstep" mechanic (allowing you to climb up small ledges passively, making movement feel even better) inadvertently broke it. Though this is being worked on All in all, I still am a big fan of the effort that did go into this video, and of course the attention is appreciated as always

[@PartyPugTV]

Really imformative thank you so much for posting this!

[@funnydotyes]

you forgot about the saw ballista

[@Stachekip]

well-written and informative post as usual blamo 😄

[@danielsurvivor1372]

If you ever add Assault gamemode from Unreal Tournament 2004(the gamemode where theres mini story about a map where attacking team does objectives to finish the map while defend team tries to stop em) then I think i'd be worth checking out and more people will check out open fortress, but for now Classic is just more accessible and feels more like tf2... Theres a reason devs nerfed bhopping in tf2 and never added deathmatch gamemodes, because they dont represent tf2 vibe 8:04 Although it IS nice you guys never added bloody sentries, those things shouldve never appeared in tf2... I mean maybe if u copy the gamemodes and unlocks from tf2 into open Fortress, maybe it would be worth playing JUST for no sentries vibe. 22:04 NOT nice you brought back sniper rifles xd

[@FisterTm]

eatming froof llops

[@Honza67382]

This mod feels like what's going on where the 9 mercs aren't currently deployed. Like as though it was a map "from beyond the fence." On a battlefield beyond the skyboxes of any tf2 map where the 9 mercs are currently fighting.

[@MinecraftSteve-fe9kq]

Does anyone even play it? Last time I tried to play it, there was 1 server with like 11 players in it

[@Honza67382]

@@MinecraftSteve-fe9kq dunno. I don't play it.

[@viscera_atrocity]

It's Team Citadel :)

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

the mod takes place after the events of TF2, in the mid-70s

[@JcoleMc]

Open fortress takes place in the future of TF2 after Mann co collapsed and different companies are figthing over Mann co land

[@KhunShawn]

4:13 made me smile so wide I had to leave a tip.

[@PartyPugTV]

holy thank you so much!!!😭😭

[@notdaveordaniel9711]

Bro you're not gonna believe this but I'm the Dave that made Trade_Dave_Portal mentioned at 2:06 I appreciate the enthusiasm for the map lmao, but I've made better things

[@PartyPugTV]

AYO NO WAY!!!

[@userfromspace8952]

THE LEGEND HIMSELF 😱💥

[@BadNameJackson]

Yo I used to play that all the time!

[@rampagedudesrb2]

Whens trade_daniel_portal coming out?

[@notdaveordaniel9711]

@@rampagedudesrb2 2077

[@manintheline5331]

That double barreled shotgun got me acting up

[@GarvitDhingra-p2r]

AirPods shotty

[@Camthebanana]

@@GarvitDhingra-p2rimma catch a body

[@blamo476]

As an OF regular 7:41 brought out some suppressed memories. Dare I say ArenaFPS as a genre was everything I was looking for, as I was burning out on TF2 back in 2019, though thankfully I can enjoy both now

[@gordonfreeman7187]

onlyfans???????????

[@barrylemington]

@@gordonfreeman7187 lol yeah thought the same thing

[@generalolivervonbismarck393]

HANK, HANK DONT SHORTEN ONLY FORTRESS TO OF. HAAAAAANNNNKKKKKK

[@canaconn2388]

I remember when OF advertised as being open source for an entire year without actually having its source available

[@KhunShawn]

10:26 Damn…he got me again.

[@sneakyboi9598]

Your video brought so much live into the game. I only started playing this game this year and i've never seen servers being so populated

[@PartyPugTV]

❤❤

[@GnomeAndHalflingEnjoyer]

10:30 Love how you put Zenith in there multiple times lol

[@brkenalex8657]

He really wanted to show his superiority but he didn't have to do Zenith dirty like that

[@xAnononAx]

I installed it and got to play it a few times during the bot crisis (which is still ongoing). It was a breath of fresh air and it actually was fun. Unfortunately there are little to no players. You have to be online during your local rush hour to play with like 10 or so people, if you play in the evening you have to settle for high ping servers which have the same amount of people.

[@xAnononAx]

There is also a zombie-tag gamemode.

[@PartyPugTV]

There's been more lately, I look in the discord they have a server list that updates so you can see whos on at any time

[@Silverwind87]

The original Team Fortress was a team mod of an arena shooter. Now we have an arena mod of a team shooter, and we've come full circle.

[@lostdanver525]

This is a great collab and surely underrated video You guys made me really interested in both mods and you, Pug, did such an awesome work on sfm parts! Feels like more work was put in this video than it deserved, but it will pay off at such pace Great video, +subscriber

[@br34d86]

4 Weeks later game is back to having 5 people playing

[@oltimm]

bro this is so high quality wtf??? the game, too, yea

[@danijelkonc4168]

26:02 Ah yes my favorite medieval job: KPFGHT

[@Wigion]

pre-fortress 2!

[@Reichcommissar]

yes

[@Multi1]

What he said at the beginning would make it post-fortress 2.

[@Mataabuelas3000-h3c]

0 players

[@CharaGonzalez-lt7yw]

Mid

[@NotABean_]

pre-cum 2 lmfao

[@phantasmixx]

as someone who plays this regularly for my TF2 fix nowadays, it's a perfect game for longtime veterans of the series and even newer players to expand further upon their mechanical skill and discover a whole new way of playing FPS. Being a long-time 2007 veteran and having TF2 be my main shooter for years, playing Open Fortress exclusively for a solid year has made me find myself continuing to find out new ways to approach gunfights, switch between offensive and defensive play with more strategy, control map areas and resources, mastering your weaponry, being able to discover all kinds of weapon combos to utilize and all sorts of other tech you'd find exactly from other arena shooters out there. yet, modern FPS players refuse to even touch arena and deny themselves further skill expression by playing only what they know they're good at. It's a crying shame not many play the game either due to them feeling intimidated from the heightened skill ceiling (that or running into the more skillful regulars and getting pubstomped for a couple of matches), or that most new players don't stick around long enough due to being bored with deathmatch being the main mode everyone gravitates to. however, all of the Open Fortress long-time regulars, like myself, have the exact same positive and welcoming energy as TF2C's group of regulars that frequent it, always happy to introduce people to the game and give them help/tips where it's needed and generally be fun people to play a few games with. It's worth sticking around for the long haul, because the community is what truly makes this game shine the brightest in my eyes, let alone being an extremely high-quality mod worthy of standing on its own.

[@DJL3G3ND]

I love this aggressive ass commentary lmao

[@ocnaug2767]

Holy crap, this video is really good. Good editing, and scripting, and all the other things that went into the video. Keep up the good work mate!

[@jimraynor3132]

24:33 is by far my favorite part of the video you ranting about how shit pipe jumping is had me laughing so hard

[@muddly701]

You make fun energetic slightly edge content, keep up the good work

[@n01rsc3n3]

tbh out of all the quake clones, i feel OF is more closer to WarFork. easier strafing, more attention with movement because of the wallbounce, it feels pretty smooth to play.

[@YapbreakOne]

Man I love Fishonastick, but holy shit he yaps sometimes

[@imwhoast]

This is actually so real. I enjoy watching the guy but at times he just seems so unlikeable. Feels like he spends 3 seconds for every 1 second trying to gas himself up.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

the CIA probably makes Afghans watch him talk about the Scorch Shot in Guantanamo Bay, God he can be fucking annoying sometimes

[@imwhoast]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan I've actually stopped interaction with the TF2 community because of partly this and some other things. A lot of people in the TF2 community are people who do things "For the funny" (Even though they repeat the same jokes for years on end). TF2's community should be talked about or explored more, it's one of the most self-destructive communities I've ever seen (Consider the bot crisis) all because they think it's funny. The community is either people who think they're funny or "know-it-alls" trying to act smarter than everybody else.

[@YapbreakOne]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Yeah it's just like pure evidence that TF2 content creators that focus on stuff like that are just running out of stuff to talk about. The funniest one was him saying the FaN is bad, when everyone uses it because it's fun to make them fly away. TF2 youtubers like that can't imagine that people use weapons they consider "bad" just because they're fun to use.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

@@YapbreakOne "durrr it's bad because you can't land your second shot!!! it shoots the enemy away it actively hinders you!!" my whimsical ass not giving a fuck and laughing at the Sniper flying out of the window for the 724th time:

[@Sixersy]

I feel like the open fortress team could make a mode where the original tf2 mercs return and are now like Saxton Hale in the VSH mode but with their own abilities tying to their tf2 counterparts. The tf2 mercs could also look older and have different appearances.

[@ColbyShankins]

Watching this on my iPaid! Good work!

[@ZeGreatBamboozle]

4:14 one of the most based transitions I've seen

[@thespringlock1794]

damn pre-fortress 2 changed a lot since i last played (ok but fr, despite deathmatch games not being my vibe at all, i can admit that open fortress is such a high quality game, and i hope it continues to improve and succeed.)

[@anastasiav4031]

never been so early to a partypug video, HYPE!!!

[@PartyPugTV]

THANK YOU INFO HAZARD !!!

[@ammazer1229]

I’ve watched this video like 4 times now & it still hasn’t gotten old, really well made.

[@RainbowsClone]

I feel like nobody is playing this because the installer is flagged as a virus; It's most likely not of course, but chrome displays it as "100% dangerous malware from untrusted website" This still puts a lot of people off immediately from downloading it and trying it out. I hope they can fix this soon, assuming it isn't a virus of course.

[@PartyPugTV]

if its a virus i'll let you reupload this video on ur channel and dub over it

[@zOOpygOOpert]

Windows just does that its not in the control of the OF team, its nto a virus

[@RainbowsClone]

@@PartyPugTV Why on earth would I do that? I mostly upload crappy memes that I make myself. Quite an odd thing to say sir. And like I said, it's definitely not a virus, I downloaded it through the ZIP archive and I've been having a lot of fun on it. My favourite map is the London one. My point is that if people go to download it and they download the installer and its flagged as a virus, that's going to put off a lot of people from trying it who might have otherwise become active players.

[@tatocta]

All the big tf2 youtubers need to see this

[@TheDude13438]

14:14 *drops cigarette and burns the whole place down*

[@rainrunner2233]

Idea for the minigun. It deals knockback to its user to. You can’t b-hop and shoot at the same time, cause you’d go flying backwards

[@PartyPugTV]

my friend had this idea aswell and honestly i think that'd be the perfect fix

[@Richard-iv3ii]

This game is dk dedicated to classic shooters, it ripped the parry projectile mechanic from it's fellow game but in the name of single player, ultrakill, and into the berserker.

[@borkbork9541]

Only thing I'd change about arsenal is maybe classifying some weapons as primary vs secondary and seeing what people do with that

[@ItsEvanHere]

10:26 Guys I think he beat zenith in MGE

[@majormissile5596]

I really liked CTF in this game, especially that map where you basically launch yourself to dunk in the enemy team's goal, and then of course it explodes.

[@M0mazosMissy]

The Overtime almost unrelated diss at the middle lmao

[@apples25555]

I like how you can move the viewmodel to the middle, I wish more games had that option

[@captaindeath9321]

First time looking at your channel (a lot of love in it as I see) so I can't wait to see you in BOTH games (I came fro the other vid - tf2 classic, love ya so much rn

[@lowstaar]

You guys doing some great PR with the cross referencing videos

[@HeyKyle]

Time to go install this again

[@martin-dw]

ok fuck it, that char customization made my mind, i will play it

[@Imirui]

There’s an additional game mode that you didn’t mention called infection. You never see people running it all that often because it’s at the bottom of the legacy server creator’s options.

[@PartyPugTV]

1 regret i have about this video after releasing it is that there is so many mutators i didn't get a chance a play cause the only server that was EU and had people on it didn't run mutators... However, since the video so many people have started playing on new servers that have mutators! There's so many fun ones i've played now that I never got to talk about...

[@gen-zboomer]

It's been too long since I've played this game, going to head back to it. I remember Open Fortress being a lot of fun with a really solid core gameplay. :)

[@hardmask4685]

GahDAYUMN this was a good video. Came from the TF Classic vid and this got recommended at the end. Definitely worth the watch. Subbed 👍

[@Reichcommissar]

pre-fortress 2 : )

[@Tails_and_Luigi101]

10:26 great music choice

[@Fatih_M177]

This mod was the tf2 mod i was the most good at, it's was right in my comfort zone since before i ever got to experience tf2, i played games like tfc and deathmatch classic cause of my at the time, somewhat weak PC. It's was so refreshing! Enjoyed bhoping all over the map, hearing the half life 1/tfc announcer voice again! Using the double barrel and ahh man, the gore, it's beautiful! Truly one of the greatest mods of all time!

[@hotelhotelhotel]

One thing about the custom color palette is that people can choose really dark colors and blend in with night time maps so you cant see them very well

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

this is what the tennis ball color palette option is for, it makes every merc bright white and green so they're all visible

[@samuelbence37]

i’m pretty sure the reason you hate the flame thrower is because it’s the pre-jungle inferno one

[@Drunken_Hamster]

So 2 things. 1. Based on how you describe it, Open Fortress is a TF2-styled hardcore arena shooter that's actually enjoyable AND good-looking, to boot. and 2. The double-barreled shotgun needs to work like the SPAS in Half-Life in order to make it perfect. Fire = fire 1 barrel (half current damage, twice the chances to hit), Alt-Fire = fire both barrels (current design)

[@christiansmemefactory1513]

Quake Live is a tweaked version of Quake 3 from 1999.

[@BTLG1090]

Open fortress has so much spunk and style, i wish valve would actually promote the title

[@normalperson691]

retromode sounds like alot of fun, it would be so cool to see a tf2 vs tfc server

[@doestf2videos]

no wonder why this took so long, masterpiece

[@01eksii]

You know what this game needs? Mechs

[@Zman01]

I tried to play this, but I was struggling to figure out how to install it.. Nvm i figured it out in 5 minutes

[@gruzi.]

oh cool! the yearly open fortress necro!

[@ruzgar1372]

The best TF2 video that not enough people watch

[@FeNexOff]

Hes back. Goated youtuber extremely underrated.

[@trent7258]

I feel like the characters in this could fit in as the other mercs the tfc mercs mentioned in the naked and the dead

[@ZiggityZeke]

they should make a battlefront type game mode where its a big map and lots of objectives to do and after enough points you can become a buffed up TF2 merc until you die like in battlefront

[@bubba_real]

35:03 dawg what is going on wtih that medigun lmao

[@asrr62]

i played this game earlier its legit something we need to push for more players.

[@ICER702]

17:53 oh the World War II German pistol is a mix between a pistol and the World War II German pistol, who could’ve guessed?

[@cyberlad3054]

I'm surprised the all class mode wasn't mentioned it goofy but fun

[@snoleopard]

this game looks sick. also cool indii shoutout

[@Kombine_Tmod]

5:56 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM!

[@RaisinHook]

22:47 the Flamethrower is hand made by pyro, the model doesn’t make sense

[@arsongaming]

This is so open

[@blakehorwill8454]

I love this game, Im so sad that its borderline dead

[@ccthe17th59]

For a second I thought: “oh well since this video came out, there’s probably been an update!” Then I looked at when the video came out.

[@SocknessMonster]

lol there hasn't been an update forever

[@ccthe17th59]

@@SocknessMonster damn maybe I shouldn’t get into it

[@SocknessMonster]

@@ccthe17th59 eh its good, but theres a newer sourcemod called tdc thats gonna be out in late 2024 early 2025 if i had to guess, its not released yet so ig go to open fortress for now

[@ignitedradium1624]

@@ccthe17th59 hey now worry not, as of right now play tests are being done for the next update, maps will be reworked/art passed, weapons will be rebalanced, and they're implementing a new jetpack power up, as of now they've been focusing on polishing and adding new maps for gamemodes

[@ccthe17th59]

@@ignitedradium1624 oh cool

[@dio4912]

back then there was a huge hype abt this game, i played a lot, and the main reason was the bhop. it was amazing.

[@Plazmit3]

while i love open fortress me being in Australia means theres barely anyone playing

[@IAmTheMan9898]

This game used to be super fun and was fairly active when I had played it, it was getting many videos at the time. It is still a good base, but it has just been repeatedly stripped and bogged down with lame changes. The issue really is just the lack of players, there was such a good scene with fun custom maps when I was playing most often.

[@AlRufo]

this could be its own game, valve!!

[@aboreddudebrowsingyt]

Honestly when I do find an alive lobby it's 20x better than regular TF2

[@DahPeppin0]

"You Hold Left You Go D"

[@Riisi_Tikku]

The free hats made me get this game.

[@CHARLESAUVET]

It's been a while since i've played OF... but MY GOD do i miss it sometimes. the raw action, the powerups, the fucking community (i've had a blast talking with them while chopping them up with my chainsaw) the only thing missing is.. players. at least when i played the game regularly

[@5yl.]

my open fortress just crashes when the start up finishes

[@Jobe_]

6:16 but I'm only good at kissing boys 😭

[@geffbob8960]

Same

[@Jobe_]

@@geffbob8960 you like kissing boys too hmm?

[@Jobe_]

@@geffbob8960 you're good at kissing boys hmm?

[@Jobe_]

@@geffbob8960 you're good at kissing boys hmm?

[@Jobe_]

@@geffbob8960 you're good at kissing Bois hm?

[@johnnyboygriffin5764]

Im checking this out when i wake up

[@Lever200]

Finally have someone to play open fortress with 😃

[@withermaykr]

i know its great but i can't update it, I CANT

[@Nerty1458]

18:03 MA THATS ME

[@Nerty1458]

ok did you have to include 30 seconds of me getting fucking dystryoed by the minigun

[@ziphy_6471]

It's him!

[@masterzoroark6664]

Hell, as someone who loves arena shooters I appriciate Open Fortress as it is now. Yeah, arena deathmatch is not a thing everyone will like, but you don't need to appeal to everyone- find a damn niche sometimes, can't please everyone and when you try you fall apart

[@Ririxpj]

So you say ANY weapon… right? He can wield ANY weapon? Will the invis watch make an appearance? Or should I say a… disappearance?

[@Snezzyboi]

8:30 sounds like halo!

[@novostranger]

This game has significantly less chances at getting a DMCA takedown from Valve if they port it to s&box

[@ct3000]

I hope this video gets more people to join me in my favorite FPS, I have been here so long harvest froze over

[@Doom_Slug]

this looks absolutely amazing

[@Gerzsilah]

Having problems downloading it

[@zanthippegames]

Idk if the minigun is that op. Health pickups are pretty uncommon and you kinda just die when there's multiple people. I do agree that you win any 1v1 with the minigun but with its limited ammo and the small amount of health pick ups make it a fair play weapon.

[@LocalMercenary]

Ratchet and Clank Minigun Skin

[@cremoso4247]

5:00 Do you guys know what is the name of the music here?

[@gibbdev]

You actually madd me open OF again as soon as i saw your vid posted. It was luying around in my library for years now. It would be good and all ut the only populated server was hella custom one with some randomizer loadouts. And you appear roking fucking shadow pfp fraggin out. My doo doo fart reflexes needed to become accostome to insane pase of OF and first time in years i launch it i get ton of random weapons like rapid fire shotgun that cant be stopped firingand half of the time randomized would give me two pistols and fucking pipe. Thanks man. you made me remeber that awesome mod. See ya on the battle field

[@Nul1fy]

i do wish this was more popular i tried playing again after like a year of not playing it and it had 1 active server 💀

[@Nul1fy]

if they ever add it to steam i feel like it would 100% boost the games player base, steam do allow mods of their games to be added to the steam storefront. Since Open Fortress is so vastly different from TF2 it counts and is allowed to be added to the steam page

[@felipecastanha9161]

Started playing it yesterday, this game is amazing