The Best Trading Strategy - Laying Over 3.5 Goals

[@jayceebee2008]

Tasmania, Australia. Will give this a try. Thanks for your time & detailed explanation

[@TradingTheMarket]

Good luck! 💪

[@startingfingerstyle]

Have watched several of your videos. No idea if it's partly that honest northern accent, but I feel far more persuaded by your methods and arguments than many of the others out there! This looks a really interesting method. Will certainly be doing experiments with this one!

[@nikolatrojanovic1384]

Serbia and thank you so much for this free videos and lessons you are the best 🍻💪

[@bettingtips1993]

Zdravo brate jel se razumeš u ove stvari

[@dtay345]

Great video. Can't believe it's taken me so long to find you on KZbin. I'm looking forward to seeing more.

[@TradingTheMarket]

Great to have you with us David 👊🏻

[@kenniandrepedersen1590]

Thanks mate. Here from Norway. Gonna try this out and give some feedback. Thanks!

[@gilbert13]

After watching weeks of trading videos on YT . probably best, most detailed and most sound advise so far - Thanks a lot - I'll buy you a pint some day :-)

[@TradingTheMarket]

Long Island Ice tea maybe?? 👊🏻🤣🤣🤣

[@ramongonzalez1335]

Hello, excellent video, thank you very much for sharing this strategy, I'm from Argentina and I'll start watching your other videos, and I'm going to start applying this method. I have always been losing my bank for 10 years and never made a profit, always going bust and going bust, luckily I don't deposit a lot every time, but over the years I have already lost about 5K usd. I have not had any money problem in the past since I was active at work, but today I am retired and I will have to be more careful and disciplined, I hope your strategies work for me. In a few months I'll tell you how it went. Thank you very much again for your very instructive videos!!!

[@tonymathews6160]

Nice to see an honest trading site with true profit loss and some sound advice about taking the profit and moving on straight away or accepting the loss and moving on straight away. Great video definitely worth some further research on my part thanks Guys from the UK...

[@rosscoshell2591]

Just discovered the Channel. Will give it a try! I feel no-nonsense does what it says on the tin vibes.

[@НиколайЙорданов-п3е]

Love this video Thanks

[@nickob55]

I am a brit living in Bulgaria, I joined betfair on the day it launched and I actually found lay the draw by myself although didn't declare I invented it, it was actually quite a good system back then but very laborious as I was working and it was very time consuming. Back then suspended meant something really happened.

[@slear9]

Hi there, I am also from Bulgaria. Do you still use Betfair from Bulgaria. I am using it via VPN but I was wondering if there is another way

[@cyanjonathan9098]

Jonathan here watching from Uganda thanks alot for such a wonderful strtegy lecture i have been finding it hard to make profitable trades on a consistent basis i am sure after watching this video i will see a change thanks

[@zisismarkopoulos6213]

Greece, Athens, thank you !!!

[@jonhart7630]

Clear and concise unlike the waffle on another YT channel....

[@sambailey9949]

great video thanks, will give this a go, I just can't understand on the back bets why you do 4 x £5 stakes? the back price has risen so surely you are over buying on the back price? then potentially losing a tiny bit before cashing it out?

[@Northsideman1]

Great video - best I've seen - no jargon.

[@markocurcic6314]

Well this sounds awesome, can't wait to try it!

[@reaganmaggs6426]

That looks an amazing way to trade I’m gonna look at this myself 🤑

[@broadbent96]

Great video, as always. Can I just ask a quick question on your staking plan for this strategy? I noticed form your spreadsheet that you lay stakes, and therefore your liabilities, vary greatly and don't seem to correspond with the lay odds. I was just wondering if you could elaborate more in this?

[@szabolcstrucz2220]

My guess is that each match have different amounts avalible in the market.

[@DaveHayesTV]

I like this strategy seems very good. I may try it. Currently I do LTD with half time entry on score lines of 0 0, 1 1 or 1 0 so far it has worked on every match I have done. I use 5% of my bank.

[@TradingTheMarket]

Have you joined our discord community dave?

[@DaveHayesTV]

@@TradingTheMarket No whats that?

[@TradingTheMarket]

@@DaveHayesTV if you download discord from the app store you can join our trading the market server and chat to us and like minded people in the trading community. The link is in the description and also on the channel banner 👍🏻

[@DaveHayesTV]

@@TradingTheMarket Cheers I'll get and do that now.I see the description link

[@coreywhite3161]

Great video.. what determines your stake as your not using the same amount each time and there appears to many different stake amounts? Cheeres

[@lukemcmillan5264]

liquidity

[@TradingTheMarket]

100%

[@alfred8175]

Great video ! Thank you

[@lurifixen0]

In the spreadsheet you show in the end. This inlcudes other trades as well? The concept might be the same but seems like you include trades where you lay Over4.5 when the scoreline is 1-3 for instance.

[@livio83333]

HI There. thanks for the video. I think when you show the 5 back bets the stake and odds (in the video) are inverted. When do you actually place the 5 back bets? as soon as you play the lay?

[@TradingTheMarket]

As soon as the Lay bet is matched I will then place the back bets, that way they are in the market and waiting to be matched hopefully ahead of everyone else's money

[@jocke78]

Great video watching from sweden

[@startingfingerstyle]

Hi again, mine was the first comment.... here's a follow up. I just gave this a whirl on an Aussie A League game. Was snookered immediately by a goal after 4 mins, so, (no idea if you'd approve) I switched it to the under 4.5 market instead. 7 mins later I was out with a small profit from my small stake trade.

[@TradingTheMarket]

At what time did you lay the over 3.5? From kick off? Always best to wait 10 mins and judge the flow of the game. With regards to over 4.5 after the goal this is something that can be done but is still a risk as you have already lost money on the same match. Keep with it and please do let us know how you get on with it 💥

[@startingfingerstyle]

@@TradingTheMarket Think you misunderstood me. I'd intended doing 3.5 after 10 mins.There was an early goal, but as the game still looked a bit slow, I opted to go into the 4.5 at 10 mins instead. I did the lay then backs as in your video, using very small stakes as a test. The final back bet was matched at 17 mins, then I cashed out! I hadn't done the 3.5 on this game at all, owing to that early goal before the 10 mins starting point!

[@TradingTheMarket]

@@startingfingerstyle ah I did misunderstand. Sorry. Fair play if the game was slow it's your own judgement. Gald you made a profit on your very first trade 👊🏻

[@liverbirdize]

Is there any videos on explaining how to back bet, struggling to get my head around it, thanks

[@rodrigolourenco1439]

Hi! My name is Rodrigo and I'm from Brazil. The video is very interesting. Do you think it is more appropriate to use this technique in games with teams with a tendency to over or under goals?

[@NickPeters-zc2ms]

Good video. Effective and one most new/old traders can practice and learn how a market moves. Also, you demonstrated how the betfair platform with the cash-out function can be used. As you pointed out, a loss will occur, so the acid test will be taking a red trade and moving on to the next one. I like automation in general, but with this approach, watching the match, checking stats and bet placement, I'd learn more in the long term and it's more fun that way too. One question, do you find VAR (if used in a game), can impact the market dynamics?

[@TradingTheMarket]

Hi Nick, Thanks for watching!! Usually with VAR two things happen. 1. The Market is suspended immediately. Or 2. The Market is still open for a short period and everyone dumps their trades before the Market is eventually suspended.

[@israelramirez1617]

So good... thanks James by sharing your strategy

[@MikeKleinsteuber]

Pie in the sky numbers for the profitability and really unsound logic as a whole. The only way to trade profitably is for your bets to have a positive EV when placed and this logic gives you no idea whatsoever that each of your bets have such an EV. And if you're going on the BF market as a whole without really understanding why the odds are as they are you're doomed. Follow this at your peril but the likelihood is that it is a long term losing strategy without further data to back up your selections. Mentioning 'not many shots at goal' and other generalisations means nothing at all.

[@lukemcmillan5264]

haven't a clue have you 😅

[@MikeKleinsteuber]

LOL@@lukemcmillan5264

[@Sumtrip799]

How much are you making Mike on Betfair? 🎉

[@MikeKleinsteuber]

@@Sumtrip799 More than you

[@szabolcstrucz2220]

Well, you can backtest as much as you want if the match is flat, then you have got a good chance. EV won't be there for the low snoring teams. The only value here is the inplay stat.

[@peteleathley5965]

nice video I have a question regarding the P/L spreadsheet results i have checked a few of the figures for profit and they don't add up but the most alarming issue is the fact you say you entered the St. Etienne v Monaco game on 64 minutes with a lay at 4.2 and exited on 68 minutes at 5.7 i Find this unreal as the market would of been closed after Monaco scored to make it 1-3 on 61 minutes!! how did you manage that one??

[@TradingTheMarket]

I had this same question a few days ago. Looking into it the St Etienne game it seems I have entered into the wrong spreadsheet. I have sheets for every goal market I enter. Hands up 🙌🏻 My mistake. And as for the trade out profits, the trades were almost 4 months ago and its hard to know exactly when I traded out after the back bets were matched to work out the profit I have made in each trade. Hope that helps your query 👍🏻

[@TradingTheMarket]

Also this is a great idea for a video explaining how the cash out function works on betfair. It's a video for Mark as it's math heavy 👍🏻

[@peteleathley5965]

@@TradingTheMarket thanks for the reply as for your profits for each trade they are available on betfair the Young boys v Servette is 100.01 and at those prices the profit would be around 53 and that is if the stake was in the market in its entirety without taking out portions of it so you must of forgot to cash out of that one !

[@Anony-Mousse]

Hi mate, this strategy is interesting but sometimes your position is open during 10+ min which is very dangerous because it’s quite long and the probability to see a goal isn’t that low. Isn’t it better to do it on the 1X2 market ? For example on the draw in 2nd half if a team is 1 goal behind. It would require some investigations to find the best time bracket to do it (probably at the beginning of 2nd half) but this way, you protect yourself in case of a goal. If the leading team is scoring, your trade will be even better. If the other team scores the equalizer, it might be a bigger loss. Did you ever try it ?

[@Zed1914]

I've personally tried and found that the match odds drifts slower, and it's more prone to momentum changes, but hey that's just me :)

[@henrychinaza]

Hello TTM, you guys are really doing a great job and I really am not trading yet but the knowledge i have gotten from your videos is top-notch. I have a question, is it possible to place a lay bet when your account doesn't financially worth the liability (the money you risk losing if the lay bet goes south)?

[@TradingTheMarket]

The money in your Betfair account needs to be enough to cover the liability otherwise Betfair will ask you to deposit into the account. Glad you are enjoying and becoming more knowledgeable through our content 💥

[@charlottebrown6996]

hey, this a great video and has become my favourite trading strategy I am currently only using £5 stakes to perfect a technique which works for me, however i do have a concern about my cashout prices which seem strange, for example: bet A - £5 bet. 3.3 entry 3.9 exit = £0.36 cashout (£11.50 liability) bet B - £5 bet. 3.55 entry 4.1 exit = £0.56 cashout (£12.75 liability) i would assume my cashout prices would be more similar, no? what factors affect this other than the maths side, do different leagues have different commissions? liquidity was high on all my bets. is having such small stakes an issue? i dont see why it would. i followed the strategy by having my back bet at higher decimals than the lay. I'm new to this so please share your thoughts on how prices fluctuate for cashouts

[@TradingTheMarket]

Hi Charlotte, your stake has no bearing on the cashout as the tick values are the same in both trades. Betfair does not charge alternative commission amounts on each league, its even across the board whether this is 2% or 5% depending on which you have chosen. The cashout will be different each time as the cashout is spread across all the markets of the over/under, spread between the back and lay prices of the under market and the back and lay prices of the over market, all 4 odds and prices work in tandem when cashing out.

[@charlottebrown6996]

@@TradingTheMarket ok that makes sense, thanks so much for the feedback, it’s appreciated!

[@strumbadstroller7350]

A good strategy. I'm just wondering why not just back unders, then cash out after 10 mins or so?

[@TradingTheMarket]

You can do either or, that is the beauty of the exchange. Although I do find the Overs market will drift out quicker than the Unders shortening in most cases

[@undervalueds]

hi nice video and seems a nice risk averse betting strategy.... do you watch the games live? Would you wait to make sure there was no VAR reversing a goal - or just trade out as soon as you see a goal is scored?

[@TradingTheMarket]

If a goal is scored or waiting on VAR then the market will suspend, you cannot trade out whilst the market is suspended so a goal scored you will lose some money and waiting for VAR to decide the outcome the trade is out of your hands

[@enigma7773]

I have a problem. Many times if goal is scored i dont have option to cash out

[@leesharpe5610]

Only just come across you ,so glad i did .very well explained ,will give this a go ,Thanks

[@zpr592]

Firstly Thank you for taking the time to put this out. Can I ask in the spreadsheet, aware your watching the games and going in where feel appropriate. Do you have a rule on the scoreline before enter. From the odds it seems there might be max 2 goals in games at time enter but just wanted to know.

[@TradingTheMarket]

Ideally the score should be 0-0 to make it as lower risk as possible but if I see an opportunity I will enter games on the over 3.5 at 1-0 but I wouldn't advise it as this is then the same risk as over 2.5 goals trading.

[@simonround2439]

Great video but why not get in at the start when odds are highest?

[@TradingTheMarket]

The odds are at their lowest at the beginning of the match. The odds drift over time with no goals scored. I wait 10 minutes to judge the flow of the game and minimise the risk involved.

[@lawrencesteels1735]

Hello TTM, why do you lay the over 3.5 rarther than back under 3.5 please?

[@Peter-zw8yn]

Hi James I was wondering if you could advice please. I have seen another video that there is a way to possibly reduce your loss over the game, this lay over 3.5 goals method was carried out at the beginning of the match and not the 10th minutes but the principle should remain. This method entails backing over 3.5 goals for the same stake as you lay if a goal goes in, and hoping there are no more goals otherwise liability could be worse than cashing out, but if no further goals are scored the loss reduces. Using your method if I lay over 3.5 goals after 10 minutes for £50, then stagger 5x £10 back bets every couple of ticks, if I get the first 3 matched but had two bets unmatched when a goal is scored, would backing over 3.5 goals for the remaining £20 work in the same way? Thanks for these videos they're priceless!

[@davidedwards209]

What we need to see is a video of how to trade out when a goal goes straight in. 42 liability seems alot for 1.40 profit so you would expect a high strike rate. Good info however.

[@tsmathstutor]

I got stung with this. Game was low on activity. Placed the lay bet. Goal went in almost instantly. Cash out value was showing a loss of about 75% of my liability. Which has wiped out my entire days worth of little wins. Any thoughts or advice on how to mitigate this or did I just get unlucky?

[@davidedwards209]

@@tsmathstutor happened to me loads on other markets which is why I don't personally like these kinds of trades. Its essentially just a bet.

[@markpowell2279]

What was the trade out, when things are going wrong? I also note that some of your games on the sheets are lower than odds of 3.0, e.g Young Boys

[@tezz22ful]

Hi, I like your method it’s got a few options to it as long as you don’t get stung before back bets are placed. How severe can the hit be on that happening? As you trade out early it’s a small return, say 10 per cent which add up no question. But the question I have is if all where lay at 4 and backed at one tick up on the backs but they didn’t get the chance, what’s the back price going to be as to your exit loss? I must say I have been testing this and it works no question but this loss possibility could mean your a busy fool? Hopefully your response proves me wrong 👍

[@TradingTheMarket]

If you are stung by a goal with no back bets matched, let the odds settle and on average your loss would be 30-40% of your liability

[@tezz22ful]

Thanks for your reply 👍

[@tezz22ful]

Also, do you always get out straight away? Each goal adds profit, ha e you ever compared it to exiting later?

[@TradingTheMarket]

@@tezz22ful each goal eats your profit and your liability. The idea of this strategy is to get in and out with no goals

[@tezz22ful]

Hi, I don’t get you on this?? I’ve followed these steps successfully on trades when odds are 4, laid at 4 with £4 stake and backed x 4 at £1 stake backed from 4.1 up to 4.4. Max on offer 5% of stake, £0.20p. Liability £12. I know we can reduce this to Approx £4-5 Never been caught out yet, but these profits are peanuts, get caught once and your way back to zero quickly.

[@johnsharp1913]

I appreciate this isn’t the game plan, however, do you ever wonder what the stats/P&L would be If you ran your winners to Half time and full time? It would just be 2 extra Colin’s on your spread sheet to fill in..

[@TradingTheMarket]

It's not something i have paid much mind to if I am honest. I like to trade, get in and out and enjoy my day lol

[@mikedavies3475]

Is there a way on Smarkets to filter the market to Over/Under 3.5 goals like you have done on Betfair @ 2:40 ?

[@TradingTheMarket]

Unfortunately not it seems, you will have to click into each specific match using Smarkets.

[@unfilteredfitnessat50]

Hi Thanks for posting this. It's particularly interesting as I'm trading this market in a similar way and tracking my data as best I can. I hope you don't mind a question - I noticed that you traded Rennes L'Orient on the 24/4; if I'm reading it right you entered after 54 minutes and exited in the 59th. The score at the time was 3-0 to Rennes - are you also ok to enter in a quiet period of a match wherever it will be? Was that still the 3.5 market as from my experience once 3 goals have gone in the price will stay very flat until even around the 85th minute when it will start to climb. Did you go with the 5.5 market? Many thanks!!!

[@unfilteredfitnessat50]

Ah, ignore me, I have read replies to similar questions later on!! I've also noticed some other patterns like goals coming in the first 10 mins of H2 - so often if I take a profit, I'll use that as a free bet to BACK 3.5 in 45-55min

[@TradingTheMarket]

Yeah if there have been goals in the match and then there are quiet periods in matches I will jump on the Over 4.5 5.5 and even 6.5 markets. I need to be more careful with my spreadsheets when making video's just for clarity with each strategy. Sorry for the dilution within my results, although I hide nothing from the viewers

[@unfilteredfitnessat50]

@@TradingTheMarket So sorry, for some reason didn't get the notification of a reply! Thanks for the reply - a good hint actually on how to make the most of the strategy. Actually entering when it's 3-0 isn't a bad idea because there's usually a dominant team who is then content to sit on a big lead so won't be pushing for more goals.

[@antskilu1354]

same as 0-0 and over 3.5 ..if goal then under 3.5 but u cud also play 2 strat. one for 1.5 or 2.5 HT

[@antskilu1354]

newby will b in chaos if 5 games from 10 theres early goal

[@2711marcus]

Hi James the strategy you lay out in the video is to give the lowest risk to reward but when I look at your spreadsheet it deviates a lot from this, this will be based on knowledge you have gained from trading but can I still make good profits by sticking to the strategy?

[@2711marcus]

@@beefy32I was thinking that. 😊 But if the odds are 2 and below there's more chance of goals so slightly more risk? How much is down to skill and how much is down to luck? 😊

[@fredbloggs8436]

@@beefy32 But the odds should always be between 3 and 4, that's the main criteria and many on the spreadsheet aren't in that range. The spreadsheet gives a very false outcome for people who stick to the criteria. It would be better if James did a spreadsheet for odds of 3-4, then the results would be accurate for the stated criteria.

[@Rudiger-co1tv]

For odds between decimal 3 and 4: prematch or inplay odds?

[@TradingTheMarket]

The odds need to be between 3.0 and 4.0 inplay mate

[@Rudiger-co1tv]

@@TradingTheMarket These odds are meant for Over or Under 3.5 Goals?

[@TradingTheMarket]

The Over 3.5 goals market mate

[@Rudiger-co1tv]

@@TradingTheMarket Thanks!

[@bengrimshaw4811]

I have watched this video with great interest just now, thanks very much for posting it for us all to share and learn from. If I may, can I ask, is there any regard for pre match stats (ie avoiding games that look like there may be goals in them from previous fixtures) or is this purely a 'the match is slow, the odds are in the correct range' type of trade? A lot of my trading had involved pre match stats as well as the in play game state, but there has been no mention of pre match stats in the video... Also, one last thing...do you advise increments of 0.1 (as per your live example) or 0.2 as per your first example, for the back bets. Many thanks in advance.

[@TradingTheMarket]

You can check pre-match stats if you like, for myself if I find matches in the correct odds range and very quiet inplay I will enter into the trade, with regards to your back bet odds it's entirely upto you what you ask for, I use smaller increments due to the vast sums I put into the trades. It's better to get it and out as quick as possible and leave with a greened up trade 👍🏻

[@bengrimshaw4811]

@@TradingTheMarket Thanks so much for the quick reply, that helps 👍

[@TradingTheMarket]

@@bengrimshaw4811 Not a problem. Have you joined our discord server Ben?

[@bengrimshaw4811]

@@TradingTheMarket No, remind me how to do that please?

[@TradingTheMarket]

@@bengrimshaw4811 there is a link in the video description and also on the channel banner. Just create a discord profile and then click the link to join us 👍🏻

[@jamesryan3232]

Hi, what bank do you think is needed to run this strategy with £10 lays? To comfortably allow for variance. Thank

[@TradingTheMarket]

Hi James, Laying with £10 at odds @ 3>4 your looking at liabilities around £30>£40, I would recommend a bank of £400 - £500 to be very comfortable in Risk/Reward

[@petarnikolaev6768]

Hey guys, great content. I have a question : once you made your lay bet how do you decide / calculate how many back bets you need to do on every 0.1 above the lay bets? In your at 6.25min you have a £50 lay stake and then you go on and make 5 x £10 back bets ? In fact the lay odds in that 6.25min example are made with step up every 0.2 and in the live example they are made with a step up every 0.1 .It will be great if you could let me know . Thanks again for the insightful video!

[@TradingTheMarket]

Hi Peter, its entirely up to you if you use 0.1 - 0.2 ticks or more you could even use fewer back bets and a larger stake increment when backing, either way I advise to be out as soon as possible to minimize the risk 👊

[@petarnikolaev6768]

@@TradingTheMarket Thank you very much for the reply. Much appreciated 👍

[@alanrolfe8640]

Great results

[@lukemcmillan5264]

you say to trade out as soon as the back bets get matched and you're left with your profit. I noticed on your spreadsheet you didn't trade out till after 10/15 minutes on some games why is this ?

[@colinbache5946]

Do u guys have a website or on social media etc and do u have an app or got your own software

[@TradingTheMarket]

Hi Colin. We don't have a app/software or a strong presence on social media, we are looking to remedy the social media side of things very soon 👍🏻

[@timporter4008]

is the main reason going between odds of 3 and 4 as below this it will take longer for odds to start drifting for profit and above it because of the increased liability and exposure to the market ive done quite a bit of tennis trading successfully just trying a bit of footie as tennis slowing down now

[@TradingTheMarket]

It's one of many reasons, yes it will take time for the odds to start to drift as the market believes there will be goals with odds under 2.5. Higher than 4.0 you're starting to risk more and more liability. The reason for odds of 3>4 is because it's the sweet spot, the market is undecided which way the match will play out, waiting 10 minutes for a quiet start will then see the odds drift out pretty quickly allowing us to take advantage and ride the wave.

[@paulunwin3622]

The lay bet shows price at 2.58 for £50 liability £125 that's not right

[@TradingTheMarket]

You are quite right sir. Although the image shown is before the match had kicked off and I have clicked the lay price and entered decimal 3.5 with a £50 stake showing a £125 liability on the right hand side only as an example to mirror the example I was explaining 👍🏻

[@markjackson9827]

cant you also back under 3.5 goals for the same profit ?

[@TradingTheMarket]

You are right, you can back Under 3.5 goals... However it usually takes a little longer to reach the same profit you would make when Laying Over 3.5 goals. Your risk is maybe a minute or two longer in the market, it's always more beneficial to be in and out of the market as quick possible 👍

[@lukemcmillan5264]

does the first back bet have to be a higher point than the lat bey? i.e lay bet at 4, so first back bet would be 4.1?

[@TradingTheMarket]

In short. Yes. If you are laying a selection the back bet should always be higher than the lay bet and alternatively if you back a selection the lay bet should always be lower than your entered stake amount

[@jameswaugh2973]

al give this ago seems like nice little number

[@paulburke6789]

Can I ask why you are using different stakes rather than a fixed amount for every game?

[@TradingTheMarket]

There are a few factors. 1. Due to bank size growth and reduction. 2. How confident I am in the selection. 3. Liquidity, some of the games are really low on liquidity due to being foreign lower league matches so I can only get matched with smaller stakes.

[@antskilu1354]

i tried u 4.5 after early g..but still not working

[@zagadat9190]

Thank You #teach

[@colinbache5946]

What websites or software do u use as well

[@TradingTheMarket]

I use sofascore, make your stats.com, Aiscore and soccerstats religiously

[@colinbache5946]

So if for example vasco de gama concede around 11 to 20 mins of games do u leave that completely alone and not enter that trade even if its a slow start to a game

[@BrigataUPG]

is the excel spreadsheet available?

[@TradingTheMarket]

www.tradingthemarket.co.uk

[@nikobrecht1779]

why shoud you lay over 3,5 goals , you can just back under 3,5 and it is the same thing

[@TradingTheMarket]

If I had done a back under 3.5 video you would be saying the opposite. You do you boo 🤣

[@rdavison49]

In now thanks

[@stupot1952]

Why don't you win on 0-0 on lay under 1.5

[@TradingTheMarket]

You do

[@cheshirered9204]

Is there a reason why someone on a lower bank can't back U3.5 to avoid the large liability, then lay U3.5 to exit?

[@TradingTheMarket]

If you are backing under 3.5 the odds are so low it will take a good portion of the first half for them to drop and give you a profit. Laying over 3.5 you are receiving more profit in a shorter time as the odds are in a higher bracket. Start slow. Even with a small bank you could lay £10 and make 50p in minutes. Over the course of a few weeks you will be laying at £20 and £30 and so on. Build your bank slowly and you will soon be making very good money from this 👍🏻

[@rdavison49]

Keeps telling me link invalid

[@TradingTheMarket]

discord.gg/DHqFkQMCRv

[@lizarcher1]

We cant even cash out in Australia or do live bets unless we call up and join a queue its not very fair

[@lizarcher1]

And we have to do a minimum bet of $50

[@TradingTheMarket]

WOW. That is a real shame. Sounds like Betfair is in the StoneAge over there.

[@colinbest8610]

Forgive this old cynic, but .....Almost half the quoted trades are out of the 3.00 - 4.00 entry price range, as laid down in the rules. Only 3 of the Trades were entered into @ 10 mins, as per the rules [a couple were at 60+ mins], If you are blatantly going to disregard your own rules then how can we possibly take your claims seriously ? As for the different stakes used ??? Only LS are a true indication of a methods real viability. If I have misread anything on the P/L sheet then please let us know, but as things stand this looks very amateurish.

[@TradingTheMarket]

Yeah fair play. The rules are there as this is the safest way to trade this strategy. I trade for a living and in the interest of transparency I shared exactly what I have done. I am watching these matches whilst trading them and when I see an opportunity I take it. The rules/parameters I have set are there for me to give the best possible chance for our viewers to profit with the lowest risks possible. I gain nothing from this. Follow the guidelines or don't I'm only trying to help.

[@TradingTheMarket]

As for the different stakes used..... This all depends on liquidity on each match/market and if I can get matched with larger amounts and also how confident I am in the trades I enter into.

[@johnknight8096]

Why not actually try the method and then comment instead of basically destroying what looks like a good method, it's not a system of rigid anything clearly, it's a movable thinking strategy.

[@colinbest8610]

@@johnknight8096 It's only a good method if you can make a profit by following a SET OF RULES or guidlines [open to interpretation so to be taken with a pinch of salt]. By all means spend a season following the SET RULES and then come back and report. But I can assure you that, after half a Centuries worth of experience in systematic betting, there is no method that sticks rigidly to a set of rules and will then make enough of a profit to make it worth the time and effort involved. If there were such a system the Bookies would know about it and jiggle the prices accordingly. The only way to turn a long time profit, imo, is to LAY rather than Back. I am more than happy for someone to prove me wrong but doubt I will be around long enough to see it. I'm not interested in "destroying" anyones work, but the examples shown, when taken in context with the commentary, do not add up. There can be no argument about that. As I have said, please come back next year with a full set of Bets that stick to the rules quoted, I look forward to being proved wrong.

[@colinbest8610]

@@johnknight8096 If "t's a movable thinking strategy" then it's not a sytem. A system is something that adheres to a rigid set of rules. From Wiki ... A system is a group of interacting or interrelated elements that act according to a set of rules to form a unified whole. Now, a Strategy is a whole different Ball Game [pun intended]. This is a good strategy but is impossible to quantify a Profit or Loss due to everyone having different ideas about stake size, time in market, exit times etc etc .... This is just Gambling and has nothing to do with systematic Betting....... Just as an aside, for those that have never got involved in Matched Betting ... DO IT. I made over 7k in 15 months B4 I was gubbed by over 20 Bookies. Now I Lay full time on the Exchanges. Good Luck all.

[@Garycarlyle]

Why ten minutes? No offense but seems a bit arbitary.

[@stevezm100]

u still winning with this james?

[@TradingTheMarket]

100%

[@frankwood11]

Switch the God damn music off!!!

[@TradingTheMarket]

You didn't say please!

[@travelandearnmoney]

slovak guy living denmark

[@rdavison49]

sent a friend request on Discord it says i need your 4 digit tag

[@TradingTheMarket]

You should be able to join through the link