The best ultralight alcohol stove you've (probably) never heard of!

[@flynnstone3580]

I didn't know they sold these. I made one three years ago using a Daisy BB tin, black plumber's soldering cloth, and stainless steel wire mesh.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Nice! I figured for the price of all the parts I may as well just buy them ready made lol

[@flynnstone3580]

@@wildnessoutdoors the one I made was about 3 inches in diameter and it made too much flame in my opinion. Yours looks more effective not wasting flame.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

You can lay a thin circle of metal or a coin on top to limit the flame.

[@randolphtrager5858]

I used an alcohol stove in a motel room once and had a close call, after that I always put it in the sink to avoid a fire

[@pootlingalong8928]

Bought one of these after watching your and others videos. Very happy with it. Great little stove for hot drinks and soups, small pots of pasta, etc. How did I not know about these sooner?! 👍🏻

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Glad you like it. Yeah they don't advertise or anything, I found them pretty much by accident! Thanks for watching 😁

[@pootlingalong8928]

Been using it all summer. Crazy how something so efficient can cost so little. I have a titanium mug with lid, the small one at 400ml and inside it fit a titanium windshield, a Speedster wire pot stand, small bottle of meths and a Mini Bic lighter. Superb little stove kit, and so safe ❤️

[@wildnessoutdoors]

@pootlingalong8928 nice!!!

[@alancarter4270]

This was awesome, thank you from DFW Texas USA

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Thanks for watching 😁

[@kokopelau6954]

I built an alcohol stove with an old Daisy pellet can I had laying around in 2017ish. I used some welders' carbon felt instead of fiberglass to absorb the liquid, no spills, some screening from a tea leaf strainer to hold the felt in place. It holds 2 oz. or 60 ml of alcohol and with 1 oz of fuel will burn over 15 minutes. I use a Zen Camps wind screen/burner that works with alcohol or solid fuel and, though not designed that way, have used a small twig fire inside. I like things that can work with multiple options. At 76 years old, I like things that work well rather than being the lightest thing in the world. Function over form as it were.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Nice one! Yeah when I see little cans in shops and other places I always think hmmm that would make a nice stove 🤔 lol thanks for watching 😁

[@anthonyjacobs6790]

Got one on your recommendation and am delighted with it. Thank you.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Excellent! This comment made my day lol 😆

[@Tom_Bee_]

I have one of these and the accompanying windshield/potstand designed for use with the MSR Titan kettle. As a system, it's bloody fantastic and lightweight. Not the most efficient burner, fuel and time-wise, but the tiny weight and pack size more than make up for that on short missions. I think for long adventures, it's probably better to go with a burner that is hotter and faster, to save carrying large volumes of liquid fuel (the Evernew Titanium spirit burner comes to mind, but damn they're expensive!) But yeah... My conclusion is this thing kicks ass!

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Exactly, they kick ass! I plan to get a custom windshield/potstand for my Pathfinder cup. Also, the Boundless Voyage titanium burner you can see briefly in this video is half the price of the Evernew and it's pretty much the same as far as I can tell. Thanks for watching and commenting :)

[@Tom_Bee_]

@@wildnessoutdoors I have the Boundless Voyage and Evernew it attempts to clone. They both work. The difference is the Evernew works better (faster bloom, lower boil time, less fuel used in side by side testing.) Took me ages and a lot of searching to figure out why. So the Evernew, like the Trangia before it, has a wicking material (cotton, I believe) in the void between the walls. This helps it work better by quite a margin. Of course, the price difference is pretty huge and they both work well, so it comes down to how much your budget can stretch, really. Caveat: my Boundless Voyage clone is a few seasons old and they may have altered the design to include a wicking material by now (but I somehow doubt it at that price!)

[@Tom_Bee_]

@@wildnessoutdoors btw, the shields are great. Very thin stainless steel. Light, strong enough, easy to use. Only downside is the pin that closes it up isn't attached to anything, so could easily get lost if you're clumsy like me! That being said, it's easy to replace being just a piece of bent wire and I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to hack a little something to attach it to the body... I recommend the shields wholeheartedly. Mine is epically useful, esp since alcohol is horrible in the wind.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Ah right, I didn't realise the wicking made that much of a difference. Paleo Hiker MD channel compared them and while there was a difference in boil time etc. it wasn't massive. I find my Boundless one to be great for boiling water but pretty inefficient overall especially for cooking. I haven't used it at all since I discovered Speedster lol

[@Tom_Bee_]

@@wildnessoutdoors I suppose the difference isn't huge at all, but if you're out for weeks up a mountain, or whatever, you'd notice the fuel weight!

[@BorderRambler]

Been using these for around 2 years now ,paired with the stormin cone and titanium mug makes a very light cook system . I also carry a spare stove as they are so light .

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Yeah I carry two of them, they weigh next to nothing. Thanks for watching 😁

[@pmh9966]

Thanks PJ.... great video, will most likely get a couple of these.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Cheers Captain, aye grab a few!

[@stevemcdermott6199]

Nice one PJ I've never seen these snd I'm a big fan of spirt burners thanks a million 😊

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I'm always surprised how few people know about them! Plus good to support a small business. Cheers for watching mate.

[@lettersquash]

Yeah, I made my own very similar to this stuffed with rockwool. I thought I'd come up with the idea! Another guy on yt - ZD Wild Camping - shows another method, coiling some stove-door rope (firebox rope?) around in a tin lid. Fitted tightly, it probably doesn't even need any mesh over it. One minor problem with these is their susceptibility to being blown out in a breeze without a windbreak, or just fluttering around losing some heat, where a jet-type pop can stove is hard to blow out. Anyway, very good video, glad I found this, and I don't even mind being punched in the face.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Thanks for watching! Most definitely a windbreak is needed. I find they don't really get extinguished by light/moderate wind but their efficiency drops off pretty sharply.

[@JohnDoe-cf8jz]

Happy I found this video as I've been developing two different prototype stoves along these lines for a few months to eventually sell. Both versions use capillary wicking function, but a different design concept. Mine seem to be much more efficient and practical than the ones in the video, but that's just my opinion and I could be wrong, time will tell. I love inventing new things or improving existing things and it's been a fun journey of discovery for this project. I was wondering have you have ever measured the 50ml tin to see if it's 22mm H? I only ask because I haven't found a commercially available tin at 50ml less than 25mm H with the lid on.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I'll check for you. EDIT: Yes definitely 22mm with lid on.

[@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING]

Those look cool. Thanks for sharing those burners. Crow✌️

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Thanks for watching 😁 they are indeed very cool!!

[@TheOpenboater]

Excellent video and a nice bit of kit. Thanks for not putting the pot on the flame before filling it. So many other folks do that in their videos and I just detest it.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Thanks for watching 😁

[@BennyCFD]

I have a few of the puck like stoves. They're pretty efficient, easy to make.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Yeah they work great, thanks for watching 😁

[@overweighthikerwannabe901]

Reminds me of a burner I got from QiWiz here in america who has some products for ultralight hikers. I don't think his are spilless though as he advertizes that the lid of his can be used for burning solid fuel tablets on and doing that would butn off any sort of lining or seal I think. He does sell a very similar pot stand to the wire one you showed with the hinge in it. Don't know how the sizes comepare.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Yeah I never mentioned in the video about the seal in the lid. It's a spongy disk type thing that would definitely be destroyed by solid fuel. Thanks for watching 😁

[@tom_olofsson]

Very cool. Just ordered a couple.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Hope you enjoy them 😁 Thanks for watching!

[@tom_olofsson]

@@wildnessoutdoors I think I will be happy with them.

[@ruairidhalexander7631]

Great stoves, although i found that the wadding in mine shrunk after a while and no longer fills the whole diameter of the stove.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Interesting. Does it affect the function though?

[@headbangerstrail]

Thank you for the video! Gonna give these a try! 😊

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Glad to help a fellow headbanger 🤟😎

[@headbangerstrail]

@@wildnessoutdoors metal and wilderness is a winning combination! 🤟

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Hell yeah!! 🤟🤟🤟

[@anthonyjacobs6790]

Bought one and live it, thank you. Also subscribed to your channel.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Excellent! Thanks so much!!

[@paulinoo2]

Hello thanks for the video ! What kind of alcohol do you use ? Thanks

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I usually use methylated spirits. Thanks for watching 😁

[@KiwiChambers]

Thanks for sharing mate, might try make one

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Yeah would be interesting project to make!!

[@corleyoutdoors2887]

Interesting stove!

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I love them, thanks for watching 😁

[@explore1018]

Very cool, well I know what I'm making for my next project now! ✌️

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Nice one 👌

[@theotheralan5511]

How much water can it boil?

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Depends massively on conditions and if you use a windshield etc. but the small 20ml burner does enough water for a brew (around 350ml) in about 10 mins. The larger 50ml will be faster obviously though I usually use it for cooking food. I'll maybe do some time trials if there's enough interest 🤔

[@theotheralan5511]

@@wildnessoutdoors I like my jet boil, it's bulky heavy and you can't really cook in it but it makes coffee fast. I haven't had good luck with alcohol stoves but these 😁 look like good options for that.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I've a Jetboil Minimo which is ok for cooking, even on lowest setting it's still pretty hot but you can get some decent meals cooked in it. Perfect for a super fast coffee though.

[@jasonjones9921]

Good videos Muka keep em coming

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Thanks 😊

[@stuartcrane9409]

How do you control the heat to cook on? I can see these are good lightweight water boilers.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

The maker sells simmer rings or you can use a coin. To be honest I've never had the need, they give a nice heat for cooking. Thanks for watching 😁

[@stuartcrane9409]

@@wildnessoutdoors have you tried their carbon felt option? I was wondering if they are different?

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I haven't, no. I'm not sure what the advantage is supposed to be. Slower burn maybe??

[@EpicureanHikers]

I have made my own stoves to this design. I use a 35mm diameter one for simmer as one ml of meths burns for one minute which makes timing convenient. I have another larger one that has twice the surface area that brings water to boil twice as fast. I have made a thin aluminium stand just using a hacksaw, scissors and a file that lets me "hot swop" the burners as needed. There is a video on my site if you are interested

[@tomnoyb8301]

Capillary-stove is best. This author's is 11g. It's best because it generates a tiny pressure differential, leading to an efficient blue-flame with less soot. It also directs the flame straight-up, coupling heat-to-pot efficiently. Capillary is also a true stove, with built-in pot-stand.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Sounds good 👍

[@hoopoo3721]

Most KZbinrs only show products they make money from, or sell there souls for : ( Thank you for sharing these stoves :) sadly at this time there store is closed for 8 days.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Yeah looks like they are closed for 8 days, weird. Must be busy from all the stoves my video is selling for them lol 😆 thanks for watching!

[@egillis214]

Off the shelf chafing dish?

[@wildnessoutdoors]

If you mean the pan, it's a Trangia.

[@hayyou3213]

Can yellow heat be used in these stoves

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I've never tried it as it's not readily available in my country but it should work fine. Thanks for watching 😁

[@hayyou3213]

@@wildnessoutdoors ok thx

[@cliffschermer9625]

👍🏻

[@WapTek123]

when we made theas in the 1990's we called them fire pills

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Nice! Thanks for watching 😁

[@squirrelcovers6340]

Stainless steel screen and carbon felt. Make your own. Simple as can be.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

True. Though for the price of all the parts you may as well just buy pre-made. 😁

[@paulotoole4950]

Greencraft shows you how to make something like that.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Yeah they're probably easy enough to make, I just figured for the price of all the components I may as well just buy them pre-made lol thanks for watching!

[@paulotoole4950]

@@wildnessoutdoors For those prices I would be tempted. He uses push tins and I had wondered about using screw tins.

[@dianabenobo]

A cookie monster knuckled your camera.

[@wildnessoutdoors]

🤣🤣 hate when that happens

[@aleksiiprohorov89]

В первую очередь. Спасибо за видео. Но очень скучно. Видео выглядит как реклама товаров. Их я уже видел на других каналах. Хочется увидеть специфику тех мест, где вы живете. Возможно, что-то из традиционного снаряжения. Или что-то на манер DIY. Спасибо! Лучшие пожелания из России!

[@wildnessoutdoors]

Thanks for the feedback. Peace ✌️

[@ricdonato4328]

Почти каждое видео на KZbin, демонстрирующее продукт, как он работает, и тому подобное, может выглядеть как реклама.

[@bones987123]

too funny

[@wildnessoutdoors]

🤣😁

[@WaschyNumber1]

It's advertisement than anything else 🤔

[@wildnessoutdoors]

I've no affiliation with the makers. Just a plain old video 😁

[@brianbartulis9709]

@@wildnessoutdoors lol, tough crowd ay WO?

[@wildnessoutdoors]

@Brian Bartulis lol yeah