The Best Value Full Frame Mirrorless Camera - Nikon Zf

[@mattgranger]

My Nikon Setup Guide has already been updated to include the Zf, showing you the full camera controls, an initial setup guide as well as an overview of all the new features this includes. Check it out: geni.us/ZFguide Camera pre-order: geni.us/NikonZf SAMPLE FILES: geni.us/ZfSamples

[@lenzyruffin]

I appreciate the effort that went into the retro theme of this video. From the vintage film grading and effects to the little details like the old school Sony Walkman headphones and the CRT television with the old school gaming console. Nice piece of work, Granger.

[@mattgranger]

Thanks! We rented the retro studio specially.

[@fotografalexandernikolis]

So smart to include the micro-SD card! It can be treated as built-in storage for backup, much better than just having one card slot. Nikon are really showing that there are valid solutions if the maker really wants to, unlike certain other brands that exclude important features just for artificial market segmentation.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Yep. Throw a 512gb card in there and just forget about it.

[@vision-gc4hy]

You're so right.

[@zegzbrutal]

** cough cough ** SonCanon

[@obedbrinkman]

agreed!

[@ghglowbalmedia]

I agree with u. They have done well with that option. Just fix it there n forget. Very smart move.

[@gdjaybee742]

WOW Matt, you lost a lot of weight! Glad for you! Keep it up! Health is wealth!

[@vision-gc4hy]

They're going to sell a ton of Zf cameras. The broad spectrum of people will always want to get the most capability they can for the least amount that they can. The true definition of value. This is a superb video. The Zf appears to be squarely seated on that plain. When you realize how easy it is to fairly flawlessly double the resolution of a NEF in Lightroom or Photoshop, you're not even really missing out on the resolution. Even the media it uses is more reasonable. I think Nikon has knocked this one out of the park. Huzzah! 😀

[@SamTaylors]

As a long time Canon shooter and now a Fuji shooter, I’ve always respected Nikon as a company but never been tempted by any of their cameras. Until now. Wow. This Nikon Zf looks like such a beautiful camera - especially when paired with the 40mm f2. I love my X-T5 and particularly the Fuji glass, but if Nikon can expand their lineup of small primes then the Zf might just be my new best friend.

[@spost26]

I’ve never before shot any Nikon but this may be the one to pull me in!

[@markhawkes4063]

Had mine for a couple of weeks now. I absolutely love it. It's a very capable camera and looks fantastic.

[@drazenzuvela1647]

Dam! The whole video scenery is retro. Matt included.😂👍👍

[@k3n12ock]

lol 😅

[@Pembers357]

I think the manual focus Voigtlander Nikon Z lenses will be perfect with this body, especially with their aperture rings etc.

[@AbhinavYadav-zm7ut]

especially now that they support subject recognition in MF too

[@tolga1cool]

Not only that but also all other manual focus lenses, Nikon ai and ais plus stuff from all the other brands

[@TimKimzey]

yep! looking forward to using my voigt 50mm f/1 with Zf! 📷

[@jsurfin1]

Iirc Voigtlander Z lenses are APSC.

[@Pembers357]

@@jsurfin1 No - there are a number of full frame lenses (35, 40 and 50mm), and a few ‘D’ lenses which are Z mount APS-C (23, 35 and 60 macro).

[@xxGravyBabyxx]

I am in love with the size of the Zf. Almost same proportions to slrs from the 60s and early 70s. I was never a fan of the smaller slrs like the pentax mx or nikon FMs. This Nikon is absolutely perfect

[@Chris-13]

Agreed👍👍

[@Sportserjeff]

Glad to see a reasonable priced camera I might get into mirrorlesd

[@babyboy1971]

Matt, between your review and Hugh Brownstones, I’m happy to say I just got the Nikon Zf last month. I traded my Fuji XT5 (which was great but I craved a change) for a mint condition Zf, in the box with the 40mm f2. The camera only had 500 shutter actuations and was flawless with the warranty intact. I’m absolutely thrilled with the Zf. I also got the incredible 50mm 1.8 S Nikkor and the very capable 85mm 1.8S. The Z mount S lenses are astounding. Now I’m saving for a 35mm lens. I’m so sold on Nikon that I’m considering getting a Z5 for my girlfriend who frequently second shoots with me. Nikon is crushing it. I still have my beloved little Fuji X100V, but for my daily carry it’s the Zf. I’m 53, trained on film (Nikon FE and FM2) so the Zf feel like a homecoming. The ergonomics aren’t perfect and I wish it had a joystick but these are minor issues. I really hope Nikon makes more small and affordable retro primes like the 40 and 28. And I do miss the Fuji aperture rings. Hoping Nikon makes that a reality. The Zf is as fun as it is capable. The files from it are gorgeous and it just feels good to hold and shoot. It’s the best of the old and new. I call it my “Back To The Future” camera. It’s terrific.

[@stefannantz]

I used the Zfc as a travel camera in Vietnam and it was perfect , I hope the Zf can keep up with the heat.

[@wtff91]

I did too. The ZFc is lightweight and practical as a travel camera

[@agnethaladuff8559]

The ZF look like a really good camera, nice images and the model is beautiful. Great video.

[@milanmedek3555]

Nice comparing video. For an FM2 shooter, which i am, it seems like a good camera. A few months ago, I was deciding which camera will be my first digital and I got an X100V. It might have been much harder decision if Zf had been around but I´m glad for X100V because I can still use my FM2´s. I´m sure if I had got a Zf, the old cameras would stayed on the shelf.

[@thinkpadx60]

Got the ZF over the weekend and the FTZII adapter. It's nice to see the compatibility with the F mount lenses, the older ones have to be manual focused and the others have auto focus working. Like you said in a video its because the older lens require the body to drive the power and a FTZIII adapter would be perfect (if they released one)

[@morbidblu]

Looking pretty snazzy there Matt - the new look, and weight loss looks good 👍

[@mattgranger]

Thanks mate

[@HeroShotz]

I'm trying to wait on the z6iii but I may get this just because its available with all the updates and better af.

[@michaelherskovitz4203]

Great overview Matt ! I really appreciate the comparison with the other models (as I’m a Nikon shooter and am thinking about this model relative to other ones I already own). Really practical ways to show the various features - in ways that real people use cameras. Thanks !

[@Vincent13997]

It helped that your model could make a photo from any camera look good.

[@srchang7104]

It is so interesting to watch that Zfc is so similar to FM2.

[@seantomlinson3320]

Nicely done. This isn't helping me avoid lusting after a not black Zf! I have a ridiculously complete Z kit and somehow I still want this Zf. Looks like a fun Christmas rental for me.

[@spicydenzel]

I truely appreciate your honest judgement and assessment on this new camera based on your mature experience and obvious solid competency. Thank you for being yourself and delivering a steady and continuously enriching work to your audience. Quite informative and inspiring. My work horse is a D850 and in a couple of days I'll add a Z8 to my production line. Wanted to share that some months ago I offered a Zfc camera to my daughter which she loved and told her that I'll wait for it's full frame bigger brother to buy when it pops up one day. Dream finally coming true now 😅. Finally and not least, just a bonus appreciation of your nice cap that adds a pretty stylish touch to your look and videos. LOVE IT.... wish I could buy one 😅... Drop a link for me plzzzz 🙏🏻. Anticipated thanks 😊. Peace ✌🏼!

[@CoenradJMorgan]

Very useful video, thank you Matt

[@cityproofdad]

can you do your studio/wrokspace walkthrough that would be interesting what its like to be there in your shoes

[@mattgranger]

Thanks mate, this was a rented studio just for the shoot.

[@EstebanBarrientos]

This gives a clear idea of what camera to choose. Great review and comparison thank you very much!

[@bernardfranck1318]

Hi, it seems perfect! I ll probably try to put my md 12.... great camera indeed...☀️📷☀️

[@fabipuello]

Matt very good job! I appreciate the thoroughness of your review.

[@joeyeti374]

Finally a fully articulating screen at a reasonable price. I would love to see a side by side comparison to the canon r6. If the z7 and z6 have fully articulating screens with all the upgrades the new processor provides it’s “game on!”

[@wongjefx980]

Man..I have been on the fence to upgrade my Fuji X30. Decided to wait it out for X100V replacement next year, but as a Nikon owner and old Contax/Yashica fan…this hits the mark. The Df was overpriced, and the Zfc just didn’t jump out at me.

[@MiltonGeorges]

Just sold my x100v to pick this up. Having owned the Fuji for 1.5 years, it was a lot of fun, but it feels much less capable than my Nikons. It’s nice to now see the same vintage aesthetic and small size packed with more capability than the bigger cameras.

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

I might finally get into the Z mount ecosystem.

[@hans6304]

Same here. I'm coming from an A7iii.

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

@@hans6304 I am from Nikon F mount. I have a D850 and a bunch of F mount lenses.

[@babyboy1971]

Pro portrait photographer here. Studio and natural light. Fuji since 2018. I have the XT5 and a X100V, the 33 and the 56. I trained on film, in the 80’s, my first camera was a Nikon FE. I’m thinking of going with this Nikon. Do you recommend? And What lenses do you recommend? I have to have a 50 and an 85 for my workflow and I’d love a 35 or 28. Thanks for Any advice!

[@carmenfissenden2530]

Very interesting and very informative . Thank you . The fact that I kept my FM2n because it is so gorgeous ; but my F2 was my true favourite . After carrying bodies and lenses around the globe in the past , I now keep it small with three lenses and one body . Megapixels are really not required above 12. Any with 16, 24, or higher can do the job . Few will make big prints and if you doubt that you can live without full frame should look again at the display boards produced by an iPhone and tell me you need full frame and more megapixels . A nice camera that does so much so well , like the new Nikons are very desirable and who could argue otherwise . But do we need them ? Well, that is subjective and be mindful of GAS. It is a nice camera , but I am now too old to be able to carry it for all day without suffering neck ache . In the studio and on a tripod then I want a mid formate body and lenses or even a 5x4. As I say; it is a lovely piece of work and looks like a camera .

[@industrialvectors]

Awesome video thanks. Now I only wonder about 3 things. 1, the video record time / still count before overheat. 2, Video backup recording to the micro sd. 3, thirdparty batteries compatibility.

[@irfanchooify]

❤ great retro color❤

[@davidbiddlecombe8602]

Thanks for looking into the manual focus with eye detect, very useful!

[@Jviotr]

I never understood why Nikon only put the touchscreen AF point control (when using the viewfinder) only on the D5x00 cameras, until now. I was shocked when I first upgraded to a D7500 and it didn’t have it, despite being newer and more expensive than my D5600 at the time.

[@mattias3226]

So now we might have an idea what the Z6/7III would be, my guess regarding the sensors would be 30+ Mp for Z6 and 60+ Mp for the Z7.

[@airjaff]

I find it strange Nikon released their new tech into a camera like this first and not the new z6/7. I can't understand their strategy

[@vidthreenorth4007]

So the "ZFc" is closer to the actual size and shape of the old FE/FM bodies, but if you want the full frame and better performance, then you have to go with the Zf.

[@JerryWilliam63]

Please look into the battery compartment of the ZF, does the pinout look exactly the same as the Z7II?

[@manishadutta2115]

Lovely 🎉

[@chrismacdonald.6295]

I was so looking forward to checking out your web site after watching this video, then I saw the prices of your courses, most of which you can learn for free from the good old www. So well done on that one.

[@mattgranger]

The courses are far more comprehensive than a free course. They also go on sale some times 👍🏼

[@hishamosman4341]

For the price alone, everything is forgiven. I think Nikon has thrown in more then what I was expecting? expeed 7, 3 D tracking and pixel shift....well, I have no complaints here. Granted, you can't expect the AF to be as solid like the Z 8 & 9 but what is has is pretty adequate. I was testing it with the manual Voigtlander 40mm and I can tell you that it is so much fun and functional

[@eldengard23]

Hey, Can you check how it deals with ftz adapter? The Z8/9 focus the f mount lenses faster than the z6/7 mk 2. How does the zf compare in that regard?

[@tolga1cool]

The only grievance I have is that Nikon really doesnt offer any lenses with an aperture ring. When shooting film with my FE / F3 or even digital I mostly shoot in aperture priority. This mode wont give you any of the prized "retro feel" on the ZF sadly since youll be using control dials again... In that sense for aperture priority only even any of the Sony a7 cameras will be more authentic / retro from a user's perspective since they have loads of lens options with aperture control. A shame really. Otherwise an absolutely amazing camera that I am actually considering to buy

[@Jviotr]

I do appreciate Sony putting aperture rings on their lenses. You can assign the control ring on Z lenses to be aperture adjustment, but it’s not as good an experience.

[@tolga1cool]

@@Jviotr The Problem is that only a select few lenses have this feature. Most of which being a bit too large for this camera imho

[@Tamjam2011]

Awesome comparison vid Matt! Thanks 🙏 👍🏼

[@dusanpolic6870]

Most beautiful camera of digital era.

[@obedbrinkman]

looks like an awesome camera 😍

[@Robert-R]

From everything I've seen the Pixel Shift feature does not stitch the images together in camera. You need to use Nikon's NX software in post processing to combine them. Ideally this may eventually be done in camera, but hoping you can also do it via LR/PS or other image processing software rather than only being compatible with NX. Don't see why you wouldn't be able to to the stitching in other software.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

I didnt want this, but that backup micro SD, metal top and bottom, brass dials and proper engraving may just deliver the retro hit i get with my old film Nikons. Wish it had more MP but as Matt said yesterday its as good as anything film can produce as is. I think this could be a long term line for Nikon its going to do well. Lets have a Titanium version 🙂

[@fazlisubhan2041]

Plz sir make one video to test nikon 200-500mm lens with z8 with ftz II adapter.

[@waynerm002]

Great video Matt! This let's owners of Z6II see an upgrade path if they don't want to wait for MK III, with possible 6K video recording. For most buying this camera, the new features will be fantastic and having up to 60p (even with a crop) is great as most people aren't going to be doing high level video with it anyways. With color choices, this will appeal to young and old alike, I think Nikon has a it with this one.

[@valentinvano149]

Matt, in my very humble opinion, the Nikon Zf resembles more to the Nkon F3 than to the FM2.

[@mikericciuti5996]

Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been thinking that every time someone compares the Zf to an FM.

[@delukxy]

Comments on the 40mm kit lens? Good price when bought together. Asked elsewhere, does it have focus stacking?

[@bigboi36]

From my z50 to a Z f😊

[@danielhoky]

I noticed something tho, the FM2 is heavier than the ZF (with the almost same lens on it, FM2 with 50mm f1.4, ZF with 40mm f2.)

[@mjak993]

I still prefer the "usual" Z5/6/7 form factor - just the Goldilocks mirrorrless size right there for me. I think the Zf would be problematic with even slightly bigger zooms like my 24-120 workhorse due to the fairly miniscule grip*. Not even going into how much tacking on a (limited capability) FTZ and an F lens would mess with balance.... Feature-wise it's very, VERY compelling, no doubt about that - and at that price point it's going to sell stupendously well (Unlike the Df did :P) But I still would rather wait and see what the Z6 mk3 will bring us. My semi-educated guess is that if you can wait a bit longer, you will eventually get all the new stuff (and probably then some) in that with even better ergonomics. If you can forgo the retro style, obviously. *I have to add, this is very much a personal preference - but I have found that having a nice deep grip so one can comfortably hold a camera just by the fingertips matters in my shooting habits a not insignificant amount. Horses for courses.

[@Ruylopez778]

Nikon would be crazy not to release a retro battery grip for this camera in the style of the old motor drives for that very reason - better ergonomics with bigger lenses or adapted lenses.

[@davidtheys6000]

Question on which of the Nikon Z cameras do you have the feeling that what you see is what the sensor sees. (Viewfinder lag to real world) saw another video with the back of Z6ii and Zf turned to camera and you saw difference on the display on the Zf was slightly ahead... your thoughts?

[@guyyowell8547]

Hello Matt, it was so nice netting you (finally) at the Bild Expo!! I’m so disappointed that wasn’t able to join you for the PhotoWalk😕. I had an appointment that afternoon and wasn’t able to reschedule it. Thanks for the unbiased review of the Zf. Incidentally, I really like your hat! Can you tell me the manufacturer?

[@mattgranger]

Nice too meet you Guy. The hat is made by Brookside New York

[@22welcome]

Well done Nikon 👌👌👌

[@catalin-ap]

Great review! Also liked the retro vibe of the space, quite not very different from the 80s-90s' Romania. And the power drill neighbour... such a familiar sound around here, unfortunately.

[@andreahuss3156]

Thank you!

[@airjaff]

Who in their right mind would buy a z6i/ii when you have this camera, even though the body won't be to most people's taste, its a 100x better than any nikon mirrorless camera out there apart from z8/9

[@dpedrosoliano]

thnks for this! whats the name of ur friend? she a full time mode?

[@RobertFalconer1967]

One thing not mentioned: if you want the ultimate in low light performance in 2023-and native high resolution is not important to you-then the Zf is the clear winner here. Besides which there are several excellent resolution-increasing software packages on the market right now which will do a very credible job at upscaling the Zf's already wonderfully clean files.

[@RohamBroccoli]

Nikon, which in my opinion delivers quality on a par with everyone else in the industry, has finally understood that in order to increase sales, they must get out on the big social media to a much greater extent than before. And they managed this this time. This will be a success for them. It is fair enough that in the end it is about the product itself, but it must be seen after all. A LOT #fujifilmx100v

[@normenbernau155]

Super Video 👍🏻 Danke 🙏🍀😇

[@webersteve1547]

Finally someone who compared it to the film cameras. Way to big for me, unfortinately

[@parmanduke]

I’d get this Zf over the Sony A7iv. Forget Canon and their 3rd party lens crap. This camera is going to give Fujifilm some problems.

[@bigboi36]

Fujifilm opportunity will be with the xpro 4 with a stacked 40mp BSi sensor!

[@AtomicPixel]

Agreed. I’m a long time fuji shooter, but I want one of these in my kit

[@aylwinwei5576]

What makes you think from apsc to full frame needs a "big jump in size"? Not to mention, Zfc is already bigger than a7c.

[@mattgranger]

Because it historically has

[@eisenschweinchen5354]

Does the Zf show the depth of field on the display?

[@CJMajesty]

Do you think they'll come out with the sliver version.

[@xxGravyBabyxx]

Most definitely but it'll probably be like 6 to 12 months when they decided too. That's what happened with the Nikon Zfc black edition

[@christopherclarke6184]

I have the Z fc and the original z6 . I am thinking of upgrading my z6 to the new z f . The one thing that puts me off is no cf express card slot . . Nikon could have made that section wider for a cf express and it would have also of given the Z f a better grip at the same time . I don’t like the idea of loosing the cf express function of these cards and card reader . I would have liked an extra function button and a slightly larger lcd that I find hard to see on my Z fc . Apart from that I would be happy to have one.

[@mattgranger]

I also much prefer cfxb, but I don’t think it was a viable option here.

[@martinhommel9967]

Thanks for the review: I like camera conspiracies' view on this camera.

[@vic_the_roman]

Made in Japan?

[@ttbirds1082]

Does the USB-C support UVC Webcam functionality?

[@S-Shah1974]

Matt do you have a review on the Z5?

[@mattgranger]

I have shot with the Z5, and it is included in my setup guide, but I have not done a youtube review on that particular model.

[@S-Shah1974]

@@mattgranger ok I will check the setup. Thanks for replying. I appreciate it.

[@k3n12ock]

Unless the z6iii comes with a fully articulating screen too, I think I'll go for this instead

[@AYOTecHZ]

lovely video , thx u Matt

[@Scooter-dm3qo]

I paid 2299.95 for my Z7 II in this summers Sale. If Nikon follows it's form that will be the retail price after next January. BTW, if the Zf offered 46 MP that would have been my first choice for a mirrorless because it so resembles by beloved F2sb from the control standpoint. Don't really need 46 mp but one thing that extra resolution provides is a much wider range of crop space. This allows me to use my 37 year old EDIF 180mm f2.8 AF-Nikkor as a 180-360mm zoom in a very light weight package. Note, Nikon really dropped the ball by not offering a 200 f 2.8 S line prime. While the 80-200 is an excellent lens it is much heavier than a 200mm Prime would be. Good news is that old 180 is every bit as good as a modern S line lens in terms of image quality.

[@terrywbreedlove]

Another great review

[@mattgranger]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@adoyer04]

love my fujis ❤

[@mattgranger]

Nice - what Fujis are you shooting?

[@FabianoMaioli]

hello Matt, this camera is good for vlogging?

[@domenicozauber206]

one of the best

[@mattgranger]

Didn’t test it for vlogging yet.

[@thinagaransiva7400]

Any specific opinion on the battery hours? I read everywhere it is bad.

[@mattgranger]

I was only shooting stills. Didn’t see the battery move really

[@cityproofdad]

btw you look great😊

[@whyiswhy123]

Audio and stablizer?

[@James_118]

Oh no ，heating issue seems unavoidable, hope to see a test on 4k shooting 😢

[@SoumavaChatterjee]

1 really good V90 UHS-II card is more than enough Having a micro sd is brilliant … I have a prograde 256 gb micro-sd and forgot about it.

[@mattgranger]

Glad it works for you 👍

[@frankfeng2701]

My ranking of the best value FF mirrorless camera would be: Canon R8, Panasonic S5ii, (used) Sony a9, (used) Sony a7r3, Nikon Zf, Panasonic S5, Canon RP...

[@mattgranger]

Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

[@Cleverconveyence]

Anyone have any insight regarding the setup guide? How worth it is it? Big fan of Granger but money is tight this season (stupid cars. Build more trains!)

[@mattgranger]

Hey mate, hopefully some people will see this and give their feedback. (I can tell you the response has been overwhelmingly positive but of course best you get user feedback!) If you have any questions about it please let me know

[@lnewbyliveca]

Does the Zf have the sensor protector like the 8 and 9?

[@carlz3955]

Yes fully protection

[@tolga1cool]

Afaik no. Since the 8 and 9 are shutterless cameras they have the protector. The ZF has none. Also it apperanty doesn't have a lockout function for the IBIS which means the ibis will rattle around loosely when the camera is switched off

[@mattgranger]

Not the same. It uses the shutter as a shield. The 8&9 don’t have a shutter. Same result though.

[@HR-wd6cw]

The Zf is the best value for a do-everything camera that doesn't break the bank (still does 4k video, improved IBIS and AF) but the Z5 I feel is the ultimate value in FF photography in the Z line at least, especailly when it goes on sale for $999. It's not the fastest, but if you want a capable FF camera with IBIS and dual card slots, it's hard to beat, unless you need the faster AF or the 4k video (which the Z5 obviously does that too but with a crop, but I think the Zf can do 4k30 without a crop). But for stills-only, the Z5 is st ill a very good value, and between the two, someone could get a primary and backup body and a lens probably for less than a single Z8.

[@kamilpotato3764]

As usually, we're getting ripped off in UK with pricing...

[@ALWH1314]

24 is just fine unless you want to print out giant size. I have a Sony A7RV and I choose a small size. The only disappointment to me, photo only no video no selfie no vlog, is that flip out screen, but understand I may be the minority, so just preordered a Hermes orange color one, haha.

[@JonInLondon]

Useful video, thanks. P.S. What's the Hat you are now wearing so much?

[@mattgranger]

you're welcome. Funnily enough, I shot in this studio with Honey a month or two ago, and there was a hat there I wore to go with the style of room. I liked the look, so I went and bought one similar - its made by Brookside.

[@JonInLondon]

@@mattgranger Thanks - I often have problems with hats when shooting in portrait orientation, especially Baseball caps with their long brims, but hats are useful at times, plus for how you look too... (Also I just knock it out of the way if there's a shot I really need.) It does look like Brookside aren't available in the U.K. though, actually I can't find it on the Internet at all... P.S. I assume the Nikon AF is superior to perhaps its closest competitor, the X-T5? By a lot or a little?

[@Ruylopez778]

I always felt like both Nikon and Canon would eventually win people back, once the market was fully in the mirrorless era, even while they were relentless mocked for being 'behind' Sony and Fuji. While the Fujis were vague imitations of the TX-1, Contax RTS and Leica M, I think this is much stronger proposition in terms of film camera legacy and brand identity, combined with actual 'full frame' performance. Being able to flip the screen away and switch to B&W so easily adds to the effect.

[@RussandLoz]

It'd be good to see the free SmallRig grip on it to see if it's better for big lenses (reason it can't replace z6?).. Why didn't they just build it in anyway!

[@EmJayEss]

I can just speak for myself and say i bought a zfc as a 2nd camera that i felt was more portable than modern mirrorless

[@jsurfin1]

Except that it's not free in other markets.

[@mattgranger]

I show them grip in video. It won’t be free though.

[@niclightfoot4329]

It is is a silly point, but why do reviewers keep stating these retro Nikon cameras are based on the "FM2"? The FM2 (I don't own an FM2, but I do own an FM3A) is ergonomically identical to the FM (I own), so why is it not based on an FM? The Nikon Df, and Zfc (I own both) are clearly more similar in design to the original Nikon FE (I own) launched in 1978, a year after the original Nikon FM. I would say all three cameras, the Df, Zfc and Zf (I have pre-ordered) are all actually based on the original 1978 Nikon FE.

[@mattgranger]

Because Nikon states it’s based on the fm2

[@DrDrGerhard]

Missing the z7ii vs zf comparison. Z7ii has more mp, but lacks the newer features. That's the more difficult decision to make

[@mattgranger]

Yes more MP and better cards. Zf smokes it otherwise.

[@Soojimmy]

Wonder why they don't release this in Silver colour.. 😢