The BEST Winter Tires for 2024/25 - Michelin vs Goodyear vs Pirelli & More!

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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
To answer the 600 of you who asked where Bridgestone is, they couldn't get me the new Blizzak 6 before I started the test AT THE END OF LAST YEAR! I'll be sure to test it next year. Also go review your tyres www.tyrereviews.com/submit.htm?match=Tyre-reviews%2C-tests-and-ratings---Tyre-reviews-and-ratings
@jonathanmaillard7484
@jonathanmaillard7484 2 ай бұрын
Cannot wait already ! And for the Alpin 7 also !
@adriangale
@adriangale 2 ай бұрын
Have you actually driven on any of the Blizzaks even in a non comparison test situation? I’m always curious cos that’s what I’ve mostly used over the years.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
@@adriangale yes, I've tested them a bunch of times. The LM005 was very good. I've not tested the US only WS90 (yet)
@ThePatkica11
@ThePatkica11 2 ай бұрын
What about Vredstain Wintrac Pro +, since it finished top 4 last year it made sense to include it?
@acasmc
@acasmc 2 ай бұрын
Without Bridgestone it's just not right. 🤷 Bought Blizzak 6 anyway, since I feel other's are getting old, and Pirelli is probably making better compound for the first batch. They've been crappy many years in the past, not trusting them. 😁 Anyway, first winter test I didn't watch in a long time. And you have to stop praising Michelin, by now it's obvious that they are paying you. 😂
@yingwee
@yingwee 20 күн бұрын
I had the Michelin Xice snow for about 2 months on my AWD Rav4 hybrid. First time getting stuck in a very long time! I traded them back in for Blizzak WS90 and they are MUCH better in deep snow and slush. The Michelin drove nicer on dry roads, silent on most surfaces, and was great in the rain. Both perform great on ice.
@estelja
@estelja 2 ай бұрын
The Pirelli really nailed it with this tire. Best in a majority of tests and the quietest to boot. Nice job.
@colla555
@colla555 2 ай бұрын
Lately, they got it. First, winning the all-seasons segment with the SF3 and now also best place in winter tyres.
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Ай бұрын
if you are going to drive in actual snow and ice consistently, `nordic` tires are significantly better for this. the same brands have nordic tires as well
@amduser86
@amduser86 Ай бұрын
@@hotdog9262 what a nordic tires and why are they better? stutted tires are not allowed here in central europe and honestly as long as i can get up all the alpine roads i need in alpina d3 f31 with rear wheel drive i am fine with whatever we get here. the worst snow is anyway slush and in this condition studded tires give you nothing. my experience is that pirelli work the best in slush anyway and avoid anything japanese in winter. don't know why, but japanese winter tires are almost always a nightmare in the transitioning time.
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Ай бұрын
@@amduser86 not necessarily better, but better in consistent cold(~ -2 to -50c) temperature as the rubber compound is designed for it. rubber gets harder the colder it gets, losing grip on snow and ice
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Ай бұрын
and obviously worse when warmer say 5+ and up
@Manu-P8
@Manu-P8 2 ай бұрын
Great job! Since the tyre performance highly depends on temperature it would be interesting to include, if possible, also the dry tests (breaking and handling) in cold conditions (dry and under 7 degrees Celsius). Very few people keep the winter tires in summer, so dry and 23 degrees for winter tires test doesn’t bring too much value.
@VxO4fame
@VxO4fame 2 ай бұрын
I remembe he made a test in the past. Turns out summer tires will still perform better in the dry even at 0 or -5
@freeskierdude_
@freeskierdude_ 2 ай бұрын
he said they tested dry in two different temperature for all the tires. also you would be surprised how many people leave their winter tires on for too long here in the US lol
@LatteDZ
@LatteDZ 2 ай бұрын
Work can wait! New winter tyre test is here 😊
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- 2 ай бұрын
Copy that ...
@Algonqiun
@Algonqiun 2 ай бұрын
I just opened YT on my break, first thing I see is this. Great thing my breaks are 15 mins
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel 2 ай бұрын
it's interesting to see how so many tires are converging on a similar tread pattern; that all to familiar V shape is becoming prevalent across so many categories of tires.
@aligator651
@aligator651 2 ай бұрын
I guess the design just works 🤷‍♂️
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel 2 ай бұрын
@@aligator651 Clearly it does. I'm wondering if it's a case of convergent theories, or just copycatting. I know the Flying V has the inherent advantage of forcing water away from the tread, but is that going to be the direction all tires go to in the future? A part of me wants to see something new and novel in tread pattern design. It's too bad someone can't magically take one of the cheap/budget tires and mold/remold them with like a CC2 pattern. leave everything else the same (compounds, construction, etc.) but just change the pattern. would they suck less?
@CerberusTenshi
@CerberusTenshi 2 ай бұрын
​@@johnhufnagel It's a tried and true pattern and as the developement goes on, the designs simply converge. There will always be some variation depending on the focus of each tyre. I'm sure, that with AI and lots of human brain power, there are possible designs that are better at everything, but manufacturing processes might then be too expensive to actually go through with it. At least for now. Because no mere mortal would want to pay 1000 USD/€/whatever equivalent currency for a single tyre. I can see however, that certain luxury brands would order something. Like the 20000€ per set tyres for the Bugatti Veyron/Chiron. And then maybe after a while, the technology and design may or may not trickle down to more affordable tyres for the regular person.
@glisse499
@glisse499 2 ай бұрын
Astute observation. Going back a generation or so, all the ultra high performance winter tyres were asymmetric. The Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4, the Pirelli P Zero Winter (which never seems to have been tested), the Continental WinterContact TS 860 S by example. But the latest versions for all 3 brands are traditional V tread patterns. I always felt the asymmetric tread pattern provided better steering response on dry roads than the V pattern used lower down the performance rung. In this test, the only asymmetric was the Goodride ZuperSnow, and that wasn't great anywhere.
@Waybeyond
@Waybeyond Ай бұрын
@@glisse499 My guess here is that it all comes down to 'emissions'. Assymetric seems to be noisier, so to look better on the labels, tires get Vs and lower tread (winter tyres now around 7 mm instead of 9 mm that we saw in the assymetric UHPs a while ago). Maybe I'm wrong, but the V and low tread seems to have gained popularity when noise and fuel classes on the EU labels got their update a few years ago.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 2 ай бұрын
One of the most important results in this test was that the best All Season tire(CC2) really is a decent winter tire.
@johnhufnagel
@johnhufnagel 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. A family friend recently put CC2's on her VW Atlas (I know, a massively different sized vehicle) and so far they've been impressed. She's not a Group B Rallye driver, nor do we get the kind of snow on the test track (sadly. I hate this state's nazi approach to snow removal) but it's good to now she'll have all the needed performance from an all season when they do travel to places with more snow in the winter for skiing.
@blabla_9826
@blabla_9826 2 ай бұрын
@@johnhufnagelYou're not talking about Luxembourg by any chance? The roads here are white during the winter months but, except for a few days, the roads are only white and slippery because of all the salt. It's absolute madness!
@B4ndItOo
@B4ndItOo 2 ай бұрын
Not only decent in winter, but better then winter tires anywhere except of snow? By actually a very wide margin. And still 3rd/4th on snow.
@VipoSek
@VipoSek 2 ай бұрын
@@B4ndItOo Better then winter tires?? Where? At 20°C+ ? Look 7:20 again.
@VipoSek
@VipoSek 2 ай бұрын
" decent winter tire " but not better for Winter time.
@thedevilsadvocate3710
@thedevilsadvocate3710 2 ай бұрын
You're the man! Thank you for keeping us informed and safe!
@dandaly7305
@dandaly7305 2 ай бұрын
If you could test Bridgestone Blizzaks for your North American audience, we'd appreciate it. Nice test to watch, though
@macilaci01
@macilaci01 2 ай бұрын
he has tested it last year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGHXkJqfjrqsisUsi=MaCrHK14nNzlVL16 Best winter tyre :)
@Rroff2
@Rroff2 2 ай бұрын
Be interesting to see how the US versions of some of these tyres stack up as well - can be some quite big differences between the same named tyre in the US vs other region markets especially EU/UK, one factor being that regulations in the US often mean tyres come with more starting tread in the US.
@PerfDayToday
@PerfDayToday 2 ай бұрын
Blizzaks aren’t sold in Euroland? Been using blizzies since the late 90’s.
@PK0wnPK
@PK0wnPK 2 ай бұрын
​@@macilaci01There's a Blizzak 6 now.
@RetroCaptain
@RetroCaptain 2 ай бұрын
I have been buying in sets of 4 for each successive vehicle I've owned since 2002. Both FWD coupes and RWD trucks. Excellent overall capabilities on very hard packed snow (which is hell to drive on with plain all season tire if you have to navigate curve and stop) and ice (where I live Freezing Rain is not uncommon and it's..fun.. trying to go uphill or downhill when the road is exactly perfect for a game of Curling. Even 4-5 years old Blizzak (I believe I last bought DM something) and the Sipes worn away at the edges and still keep control of the heavily loaded vehicle. I'm driving past people going sideways and sliding back down the slight hills. I tried the 2002 era Blizzak at 80kph on bad road, no issues though I obviously don't recommend driving fast in winter my road was empty and a frozen farm field to land in if it didn't navigate the curve (which it took in stride) (FWD Ford escort 5spd coupe on balanced rims and aligned). My current vehicle isn't possible to buy Blizzak so I have to try another brand. I found out last winter that just because you have AWD and 4WD option you slide quickly on bad road with all season tires. I mean navigation of turns and stopping is bad on ice without dedicated tire type.
@zoranrebernik4645
@zoranrebernik4645 2 ай бұрын
Were you able to test new Bridgestone blizzak 6 enliten tyres?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
they weren't ready in time for this test sadly. Next year
@TheSocialPlumber
@TheSocialPlumber 2 ай бұрын
Would love to see a van tyre comparison, something like a transit custom and load up 1000kg in the back. I’ve found that load rated tyres under the same name use very different tread patterns and I don’t always get good performance from them in the winter
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
I believe there's a few on the site if you're interested
@LL-xk5xh
@LL-xk5xh 2 ай бұрын
I live in Jura mountains and something really dangerous is not cold snow, but this wet snow you find when the temperature is between 0°c and -10°c. I've used many brands of tyres. I finished my Michelin PA5 last year and mounted Continental 870p. Michelin perform really well in cold snow but are very slippy above 60km/h in wet snow. Continental are much better in wet snow, regarding maneuverability in curves and give a better grip in these poor conditions. I had the same feeling as Michelin PA5 with my previous Nokian wr SUV 4. Very good in deep and cold snow, but poor in wet snow. Under -10°c, the snowflakes structure is very different than in wet snow. Cold snow offers really better handling than wet snow.
@dromond56
@dromond56 2 ай бұрын
We also struggle with this extremely wet snow in mountains of the northwest. It can be extremely slippery and result in what I call “slush-o-planing” when the snow has liquid water in it. Dry packed snow is easy to drive on - especially with winter tires.
@jamesmartinwyatt
@jamesmartinwyatt 2 ай бұрын
I think this is a really good point for people in many regions. I love the reviews from @tyrereviews partly as he is so clear that different people have different priorities. I run winter tyres in UK winters partly to avoid the small chance of getting stuck in snow, but mainly as UHP summer tyres suck on a powerful RWD car below about 5 degrees, in the wet they spin up all the time in normal driving. Winters are way more secure. But I want a winter tyre optimised for wet and dry roads really, we will never get that < minus10 snow you talk about! We do get the slushy crap and Nokian used to talk about "slush planing" and design tyres to handle it. It would be hard to test.
@kaptinkeiff
@kaptinkeiff 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesmartinwyatt "But I want a winter tyre optimised for wet and dry roads" Those are called all season tyres, and we do get them...... Not UHP ones unfortunately, but nevertheless, surely better than a winter for UK winters & putting power down as you mention!
@jamesmartinwyatt
@jamesmartinwyatt 2 ай бұрын
@@kaptinkeiff Maybe - for normal people and normal cars. I used to run them on lightish FWD family cars without issues, and in fact in snow they were better than my RWD cars on full winters. But on a powerful heavy car ( I haven't had a daily driver with
@darerihter5685
@darerihter5685 Ай бұрын
Continental outperforms everything especially in wet conditions. Unfortunatelly, i have a feeling that new "development" brings nothing and older models performed better
@AttitudeAdjusterAA
@AttitudeAdjusterAA 2 ай бұрын
didn't need new tires this year, but still found it interesting
@slavo1
@slavo1 2 ай бұрын
I hope that next time you will also test tires from companies such as: Bridgestone, Dunlop, Nokian, Vredestein, Yokohama together with Michelin Alpin 7, Goodyear, Continental, Pirelli, Hankook.
@79blustone
@79blustone 2 ай бұрын
Currently on Michelin cross climates on my work van- they paid for them! You should try and test van tyres as there are petrol heads that have to drive vans too
@istvan.design
@istvan.design 2 ай бұрын
Missing Bridgestone Blizzak 6, Michelin Alpin 7 and Conti Winter Contact 8s. The Hankook is the best cost wise, I can get an RS3 for 50% cheaper than Michelin/Bridgestone/Pirelli.
@modecir
@modecir 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I also want to see those new models tested, especially the 8 S, but unfortunately it is not available in this size (and it had not been announced a few months ago when Jonathan stated the test).
@guillettoaparicio13
@guillettoaparicio13 Ай бұрын
Congrats for the video! I’ve just bought two weeks ago a model Y LR RWD which came with Summer Tyres but I had to change them for winter tyres right now. After searching a little, I was decided to purchased Pirelli Sottozero 3 which are curiously the tyres Tesla sells in its web. To my knowledge I had learnt they were a very very performance winter tyres with the closest summer tyres sensation. And today, at the tyres shop, seller has recommend me pirelli P Zero winter 2, because they were quieter and better in wet conditions, being the only A wet cat winter tyres to his knowledge. After long hesitation, I’ve finally purchased these one, since moreover they were a little cheaper than Sottozero ones. Unfortunately I didn’t know this fabulous KZbin channel, if not, maybe I wouldn’t have doubted so much as I had done, since I’ve seen the pirelli tyres used are Pzero Winter 2 and not Sottozero for this ranking! After this long introduction, have I made the good choice? Is really relevant being a Tesla branded tyre like the Sottozero (reason made me hesitate). Which one is the best? Thank you to everybody that have the pleasure to answer me!
@matthewgarcia9502
@matthewgarcia9502 2 ай бұрын
LOVE the channel. Will you **PLEASE** add a category/video for quiet tires.
@ronr8800
@ronr8800 2 ай бұрын
Lots of good information as usual and this site helped me decide what tire to buy for my new Subaru Forester. Great videos if a person is looking for a premium winter tire for safety and handling. I bought a all weather tire the Michelin Cross climate 2 and so far impressed but winter in Northern Alberta Canada is my test track and it will determine my thoughts better. Slush is very common up here now and it can be very dangerous when passing because your slipping and hydroplaning all at the same time plus your wind sheild gets slushed up at the same time + some of the coldest temperatures on the planet. Our slush will not freeze even when -25 C below ( Iknow hard to believe but that is the reality of using potash salt on the roads).
@ZylonFPV
@ZylonFPV 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been buying tyres based on your recommendations since 2011 ❤ Currently driving: Michelin Cross Climate 2 on a RWD saloon. Can get around in the snow very well, and the rest of the year they’re fine!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
Glad they're working for you!
@radiator1979
@radiator1979 2 ай бұрын
I bought kleber quadraxer 3 based on last years test on AS tires. They are awsome in the snow, good on dry, slightly wore on wet and that noise on wet like birds wistling. Great and cheaper alternative to CC2. Some say it is a winter tire with summer homologatian but I guess it is not true.Overoll, Ttey perform great and the proce is so wallet friendly. If I had known that Bfgoodrich were the same tire as Kleber I'd have bought bfgoodrich advantage. Great test I personally love them.
@benny5529
@benny5529 2 ай бұрын
Mate, good job! You are doing a very important job for all of us!!!! Keep doing it! Super nice to watch these reviews🎉
@EnormousSmartass
@EnormousSmartass 2 ай бұрын
I get that the logistics certainly are challenging, however a wet test in summery conditions doesn't make too much sense, doesn't it? Wet testing is super important for winter tyres, but rather in the range of roughly -4 to +10 degrees celcius. I guess this wet ranking could be completely different more wintery conditions.
@ChrisSanders7
@ChrisSanders7 2 ай бұрын
yeah completely agree, testing has to be a huge challenge finding somewhere with the right temperatures when you arrive, having all the tyres available etc. I was looking at the wet braking graphs at 7:51 and 7:56 and you can see the winter tyres improving in the cooler temps and the summer tyre dropping away, which makes sense. I believe about 8c is the point at where summer tyres should start to reduce in performance too, so I think the winter tyres should only get better as the temperature drops.
@r5LgxTbQ
@r5LgxTbQ 2 ай бұрын
I agree, slush and snowmelt is a different monster
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
Sadly I've not found the ability to control the weather yet
@EnormousSmartass
@EnormousSmartass 2 ай бұрын
@@tyrereviews yet 😎
@stuartburns4444
@stuartburns4444 2 ай бұрын
@@tyrereviews yeah ya did kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHzXn5awoJ2Ars0si=rXuc7CP995G92NwZ
@mralexlex
@mralexlex 2 ай бұрын
What about new Bridgestone Blizzak 6 and new Conti Winter Contact 8s and new Michelin Alpin 7
@michaelswistun3861
@michaelswistun3861 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! I'm incredibly curious about the performance of the latter two - sadly, no tests out there yet. Really had hoped that TyreReviews, my favourite testers by far!, would have included them. Would be awesome if you could at least drive them within the next weeks and give us your opinion about them!
@poplaurentiu4148
@poplaurentiu4148 2 ай бұрын
Obviously he did these tests with what he had at disposal.. the rest will probably follow..
@johannesdesilentio43
@johannesdesilentio43 2 ай бұрын
@@mralexlex and maybe also the cinturato Winter 3 for the next year test!
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Ай бұрын
tires tested here as far as I can see.. is european tires. not nordic. so they will be a much bigger compromise summer/winter. for actual snow/ice/cold performance get a nordic tire from a good brand. the comprehensive test result for studdless.. in my country for 2024. 1. Goodyear Ultragrip Ice 3 2. Continental VikingContact 8 3. Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 4. Michelin X-Ice Snow a lot of criteria is in here..17 of them. like dry, wet performance, noise etc. the best tire for actual grip on snow and ice was the nokians. studded are better tho if legal
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Ай бұрын
some good brands was not part of the test
@ionutzis8664
@ionutzis8664 2 ай бұрын
You are the best of the best of the best!😊
@wusthof641
@wusthof641 2 ай бұрын
I hope a "normal" winter tire test is coming up. Hi po winters are normally not fitted to the general car population (x-ice, hakkapeliitta etc)
@sinappanis
@sinappanis 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I'm hoping one comes out with the more standard winter tires as I feel the majority of people use those.
@wusthof641
@wusthof641 2 ай бұрын
I also hope there is a cheapee or at least "bang for buck" in there as well. Living in a mild-ish climate, I don't spend a lot on snowies and dont need "the best of the best". Usually 3 months of the year
@samivwow
@samivwow 2 ай бұрын
The hankook is what you are looking for, it is not a premium brand. At least when I bought mine. It is not dirt cheap, but compared to the pirelli, continental and michellins, it is a normally priced tire, sitting in the middle of the price range
@ktsaylor5947
@ktsaylor5947 2 ай бұрын
Another Super Content Rich, Fun to watch review! Here in North Carolina - I only need All Season or All Weather, but enjoy these tests that show Winter Tire Capabilities as a benchmark for making a good choice. I will probably watch this a couple times thru to be sure i get all the data - Thanks for doing these!
@timw2083
@timw2083 2 ай бұрын
Our weather isn't very different since I'm in Virginia. We don't get heavy snow often and I'm debating a UHP all-season. I'm torn between the Pilot Sport AS and DWS06+. I currently have the Contis on a couple cars but willing to try something else
@ktsaylor5947
@ktsaylor5947 2 ай бұрын
@@timw2083 I put the Michelin's in 225/50 x 18 on my Acura TLX - They're Great but a bit noisy in that size vs a Grand touring All Season. My consider that when deciding on these Vs Conti's. Best
@LITJEK
@LITJEK 2 ай бұрын
Great test as always! Will there be a nordic winter tyre test soon?
@VinnesRC
@VinnesRC 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully including studless nordic tires? And compared to a uhp winter tire and maybe an all season?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
I'm afraid not from me this year :(
@yamahass66
@yamahass66 Ай бұрын
​@tyrereviews When and if you do next year. Please include new nordic tyres to see if they are actually any better.
@erlend1554
@erlend1554 Ай бұрын
Could always be wrong, but its common knowledge in scandinavia that nordic winter tires are so far ahead theyre the only ones worth getting. would absolutely love seeing some good 3rd party testing on them!
@PaulHojda
@PaulHojda 2 ай бұрын
Wonder how the Bridgestone LM005 would compare
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
It's been replaced with the Blizzak 6 now.
@modecir
@modecir 2 ай бұрын
@@tyrereviewsGood to know. The website needs this info too, where both models are linked to each other.
@Mr.meaner2000
@Mr.meaner2000 Ай бұрын
Thank you for making these great videos for tire nuts like me I research tires so much and end up so undecided so you really help me with every season tire I want. With that said I wish there was more options for 245/40r17 snow tires I've only found 1 name brand
@robru
@robru Ай бұрын
Ran a set of Nokian’s on a 3 series in the UK for several years and was very impressed with them. How would they fare these days?
@radeck2007
@radeck2007 2 ай бұрын
Should I care about BMW homologation? It seems to greatly limit winter options. Or should I just purchase P0 in the correct size, regardless of homologation?
@IcEX5
@IcEX5 2 ай бұрын
Can I ask why did you do the dry braking test with winter tyres in 23.5C temperature? Wouldn't it be more relevant and precise if it was somewhere between -5 and +10C? You can easily do that just next to the winter test track on some smooth tarmac. Thanks for the answer and keep up the good work! Your test are the most reliable if some asks me ;)
@wesjones17
@wesjones17 2 ай бұрын
These reviews are incredibly helpful. Thank you for doing them! Have you had a chance to test the Pirelli Scorpion Weatheractive? They're new and I've read they're as good as or even better than the CC2s.
@Haksdo2
@Haksdo2 2 ай бұрын
Very handy video once again. Don't need new winter tyres this year, but next year they might need to be replaced again. On my previous car I last had the Continental TS860 tyres. They were fine, but they felt very "average" in snow, they were great in the dry though even with higher temperatures (15C+). Previously I had Falken winter tyres on that car and they were awesome in the snow and cold rainy weather. Compared to the Continental's, they were way, way better, more grip, more confidence inspiring etc. However, if daytime temperatures reached around 15C (in the dry) they fell off quite quickly, it felt like driving on chewing gum. My current car has Bridgestone winter tyres since when I bought the car and last winter I was pleasantly surprised by them. Not the best I've ever had, but very good in all conditions, also in the dry with higher temps. Looking at this test, I'm leaning towards the Pirelli's this time, which I'm surprised by. In my mind, from previous experience, Pirelli makes great UHP summer tyres that need some temperature to get them going. In the wet/cold they used to be way worse then UHP Goodyears for example. Winter tyres from Pirelli used to be crap, but damn have they improved.
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 2 ай бұрын
One question I’ve always had is what exactly is a High Performance or UHP winter tire? How exactly do they differ compared to a regular winter tire? Isn’t the goal of all winter tires to maximize traction on ice/snow above all else??? It just feels like a marketing term in my mind. Would love to see a video compare the different performance classes of winter tires. Like how does the Blizzak WS90 perform compared to the LS001. For summer tires it makes sense because we have high performance cars and race tracks that see far higher temps and very much demand those qualities. But that isn’t how people think of winter tires, or at least I don’t.
@tfilkov98
@tfilkov98 2 ай бұрын
I've always thought the same, but then I bought my new daily car that has 300 BHP which I love to push hard at every chance I get. In my country we usually ride with winters tires at least 5 months of the year, so it only makes sense to find a high performance tire that will allow me to drive the way I want to.
@665Thunder
@665Thunder Ай бұрын
Amazing test, the best of the best as usual... As most drivers will be using winter tyres as a second set for half of the year and potentially putting low mileage on them, time will tell which ones have the best compound which is able to last a good 4-5 years. I've had experience with old winter tyres and things changed a lot! I used to have a set of Uniroyal MS plus 77 which at their 4th year (bought new with recent DOT), with still loads of tread, were performing very bad. I've then purchased a second hand set of Pirelli winter sottozero 3, which even at 6 years of age (and 60% tread) were performing amazingly well in snow and mixed conditions. You could tell the premium brand compound was simply better, while the cheap Uniroyals which I bought new, had not held up the test of time!
@brettida3936
@brettida3936 2 ай бұрын
how would you compare the Michelin XIce Snow vs the Alpine? What conditions are they both for? When would you want one over the other? thanks!
@benbradbury3665
@benbradbury3665 2 ай бұрын
A behind the scenes video of a tyre test would be an amazing insight
@ktsaylor5947
@ktsaylor5947 2 ай бұрын
As would a 'Tyre Reviews Bloopers Video' ! I am sure there are some good out-takes available. I'd watch it!
@Log1cPa1n
@Log1cPa1n 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this test as well! Are you planning to test the new Hankook ION Tyres and see how they compare to the non-EV specific ones?
@lleberghappy
@lleberghappy 2 ай бұрын
Really nice test as usual. Being upp in the northern half of Sweden, the big devate is studded or studless. Having to rely on the tyres in all winter weather. Performance studless vs studded on ice and misery would be dope!
@mawa9843
@mawa9843 2 ай бұрын
Seems like for those areas where you have mild winters with only a few days of snow, running AllSeasons instead of winter tyres might be a sensible choise. And summer tyres for the rest of the year. Any thoughts on this?
@anno1602
@anno1602 10 күн бұрын
Excellent reviews as usual, except for one thing; some of the tests (wet, dry) were done in 26C temps, which is meaningless for a winter tire which you wouldn't usually drive in temps above 10C. You'd want to see the performance at -10 or below.
@georgelilin7753
@georgelilin7753 2 ай бұрын
Is there going to be regular/normal tire size, winter tire test this year? For example Michelin have the new Alpin 7 out.
@a-ps9347
@a-ps9347 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your awesome appreciation testing tyres…thx a lot.
@jeffer1101
@jeffer1101 2 ай бұрын
I have the Cross Climate 2 tires on my vehicle, mostly because of their solid performance from watching these video reviews and I've been very happy with them, especially in the winter. I don't need the added cost and hassle of switching my tires around every 6 months. Good to see the latest tires from Pirelli are performing very well though. They've always been a decent tire, but for several years seemed to be kind of a forgotten option. Now they are back in the game with their latest offerings.
@europana7
@europana7 2 ай бұрын
Love the CC2s … best universal tire except for high northern areas where a proper high performance snow tire would prob be best.
@bradleyisfishing
@bradleyisfishing 2 ай бұрын
Same, we bought them for our crosstrek after seeing it on this channel and it’s been a great call.
@ktlinZzStuff
@ktlinZzStuff 2 ай бұрын
Hi. Great video! Thank you for that! What about the Michelin Alpin 7?
@futuries
@futuries 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any info about Bridgestone Blizzak 6?
@AndreasHappyfarm
@AndreasHappyfarm 2 ай бұрын
Ordered the Zero Winter 2 a week ago. I'm so glad they get good test results! :-)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
Nice let me know how you find them in the real world!
@mattimg
@mattimg 2 ай бұрын
Did the same! Already waiting for the rims I also ordered. Going to be a delightful ride with these I hope!
@25jai123
@25jai123 2 ай бұрын
Great review as always. I’d be curious out to get more data with the ultra high performance winters on wet and dry performance in colder temperatures such as 0-2 degrees. I use my pilot alpins in the winter but soon as the temps warm up I go back to summers anyway so any data above 7 degrees isn’t as helpful. Keep up the great work!
@Robert_Langer
@Robert_Langer 2 ай бұрын
Just fitted a set of Alpin 5's to our i20N Performance today, in preparation for the German winter. I'm really happy to see that it's still near the top. Initial impressions are super comfortable and soft compared to the OE Fitment Pirelli P Zero's... which should be the case, considering winter tyres have a softer compound, but I wasn't expecting such a notable difference in ride quality. Thank you for the informative and detailed reviews, keep up the excellent work.
@David_Denali
@David_Denali 2 ай бұрын
How' u rate these as all season tire? Tnx Sumitomo HTR900 vs Hankook Ventus Prime 4 vs Bridgestone Ecopia EP300
@robertstarczewski
@robertstarczewski 2 ай бұрын
At this point I wonder where would cross climate 2 end up in the winter ranking. And also how would blizzak LM005 compare? When are we going to see blizzak 6 and the new wintercontact 8?
@radiator1979
@radiator1979 2 ай бұрын
CC2 stands out and it is a sign that for a moderate climate no winter tires are needed after all.
@jamesmartinwyatt
@jamesmartinwyatt 2 ай бұрын
No Bridgestone??
@ondrejbrabec844
@ondrejbrabec844 2 ай бұрын
And a Nokian 🤒
@FreshYoungDude
@FreshYoungDude 2 ай бұрын
Love the WS90 on my Miata.
@selthyapabei
@selthyapabei 2 ай бұрын
Blizzak is just the best year over year and there is no point in adding it to the comparison
@mralexlex
@mralexlex 2 ай бұрын
@@selthyapabei Тheres new Bridgestone Blizzak 6 and new Conti Winter Contact 8s and new Michelin Alpin 7
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 2 ай бұрын
@@selthyapabei ??? It's never the best where we actually care about winter tires.. lmao
@aviationfans8037
@aviationfans8037 2 ай бұрын
What about bridgestone 😔 ADAC didn't test them, OAMTC didnt test them, and now you. Thankfully the new AutoBild test included them. Also if you will have the time, please consider testing this year in a smaller size (for example the ts870 seems to be performing a lot better than ts870p, it was the autobild test winner). I would like to see more data on the Blizzak 6, as well as other premium winter tyres not included. That aside, good test as always, keep up the good work, i really enjoy your channel
@daliborzak2485
@daliborzak2485 2 ай бұрын
It's quite hard to get Bridgestones into test. But I assume it's not that difficult just to buy them.
@jonathanmaillard7484
@jonathanmaillard7484 2 ай бұрын
I think most of the reviews are done end of previous year so all new tires are skipped and reviewed one year later
@nirfz
@nirfz 2 ай бұрын
If i am not mistaken one of the cars we have at work has those Bridgestones. This spring (still all cars on winter tyres) we were at a drivers safety training. And sure it was the lightest car we had with us, but it was the absolute best in stopping on the wet glide surface that emulates snow people have already driven on. -> hard packed slippery snow. It was a Skoda Octavia hybrid. The other cars were a Skody Enyak EV, a Toyota Landcruiser (called Prado on some markets and ours is in 3rd world country setup with a manual gearbox, halogen lights ect. but still only 2 years old) and 2 VW Busses. The worst in stopping was one of the VW busses, but it had "cargo winter tyres" and they are quite shitty, o matter the manufacturer. So i think you would not be goiing the wrong direction in buying those Blizzak 6 for a passenger car. That said, i had Bridgestone LM25 4x4 winter tyres on my private car for the last 2 winters. (they were the only ones available in my size from a reputable manufacturer when i needed new tyres.) And they were among the worst winter tyres i have used so far. -> If you stick to the mentioned newer ones i think you will be fine, older "designs" like the LM25 4x4 maybe not so much.
@johannesdesilentio43
@johannesdesilentio43 2 ай бұрын
@@daliborzak2485 blizzak 6 and alpin 7 were available only in July for this size and later for the 235
@eyalcin9582
@eyalcin9582 Ай бұрын
I am undecided between Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 and Michelin Alpin 7. Which tire do you think is better? Which would be your choice?
@onlyvik
@onlyvik Ай бұрын
I'm in the same position.
@mralexlex
@mralexlex Ай бұрын
Pilot Alpin 5 is more sporty, performance orientated. Alpin 7 is more touring. I bought A7, not mounted them yet but I have faith in Michelin. ;)
@onlyvik
@onlyvik Ай бұрын
@@mralexlex if i read the specs, the A7 is an improved version of the A5. I can't imagine they are that different.
@mralexlex
@mralexlex Ай бұрын
@onlyvik no A7 is improved from A6, touring line of tyres. Pilot is performance line.
@onlyvik
@onlyvik Ай бұрын
@@mralexlex good point haven't thought about that. The thing is that in my size 225.45/17 they Alpin 5 only offer the run flat series and the experiences aren't that great. What's your experience in this? Thanks btw
@olasebastian
@olasebastian 2 ай бұрын
"Give me a BMW 320D" over the GTi ! My thought exaclty :) Awesome review as always!
@yamahass66
@yamahass66 2 ай бұрын
Could you try vikingcontact 7 vs 8? They say they made the 8 worse due to fit heavier electric cars and 7 is better.
@nobooya
@nobooya 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for the wear tests, how much distance before the tread wears to 4mm for example and how they perform with much smaller tread.
@daliensb
@daliensb 2 ай бұрын
Would be great to test northern europe tires like michelin north 4. I know that they are great. But would like to see them in video
@ndc5544p
@ndc5544p 2 ай бұрын
Please do these tests in more common vehicles and tire sizes! While I understand that high performance cars bring the tires to their limits, it also means that most of us which don't have GTI's, M3's, Mustangs or Teslas are left wondering if the choice of tire we made is the best or not. I mean, only a few high performance cars have such 19" wheels with such thin sidewalls. Also the tire profile changes with the width often, look at the Hankook Winter i*cept RS3. My car has the same tire in the 195/55/R16 dimension and the profile is completely different. Is my tire comparable to the one you tested? Is it better or is it worse? By how much? If you'd test a 205/55 R16 or something close to that, I could maybe believe it's pretty much the same. I can only trust that the brand did a good job, nothing more.
@florian_montuzet
@florian_montuzet 2 ай бұрын
Another lovely review. Thank you Jonathan !
@roberthuraj5989
@roberthuraj5989 2 ай бұрын
Hi could you please do a winter tyre test for SUV for this year?
@soslsi3592
@soslsi3592 2 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on testing tyres with mileage on them? I'm wondering if microtexturing skews new tyre testing results... as always really enjoy the channel, ty
@BimmerWon
@BimmerWon Ай бұрын
Can you compare the Michelin Cross Climate 2 to the brand new Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady 2 tires, rumored to be the Cross Climate 2 upgrade? Edit: Also could you throw the Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 tires into that comparison video?
@SwiftHDX
@SwiftHDX 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I'd be curious to know what the wear is like on these tyres (Expected life), and how they would perform when worn.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 ай бұрын
Me too, there will be tests data on tyrereviews.com some of which will hopefully test wear.
@SwiftHDX
@SwiftHDX 2 ай бұрын
@@tyrereviews Look forward to seeing them, thanks for your hard work!
@joshwhite1009
@joshwhite1009 23 күн бұрын
No Nokian tyres? I have had very good luck with their tyres and their customer service.
@mitra1399
@mitra1399 2 ай бұрын
Well done Jonathan great job done again. i wonder will there be any content for motorcycle tyres? You know they are getting more and more popular but there is no all round comparison for motorcycle tyres
@davidrodinger1933
@davidrodinger1933 2 ай бұрын
Another fantastic testing. Thank you for a great job! Next time I would like to see Continental WinterContact 8 S along with already mentioned Blizzak 6. ❄
@JJJ5.7
@JJJ5.7 Ай бұрын
Tyre reviews and tire rack great place for tire reviews
@magnusdanielsson2749
@magnusdanielsson2749 2 ай бұрын
This question have probably been answered but Im qurious. Do you buy the tires or are you sent tires from the manufacturer? Thinking about the issue of manufacturers sending special tires to the testers.
@FXi-Learning
@FXi-Learning 23 күн бұрын
The Nokian Tyres Hakkapeliitta - by far out performs all snow and ice tires. The preferred tire of snow and Ice racing... holds speed records on ice race course, holds more patents than any other.... etc... suggest you test this tire ... and see the difference
@AdamEronenPiper
@AdamEronenPiper Ай бұрын
In Lapland we use studded tyres. Have you tested studs vs winter tyres? I’m curious as many people living in the south opt for non-studded winter tyres now because the winters are getting warmer.
@yukinarija8204
@yukinarija8204 2 ай бұрын
Any chance for the nordic test soon?
@addisonbradka2858
@addisonbradka2858 14 күн бұрын
Snow is the least of my winter driving worries. It’s the ice that occurs on clear roads when it’s snowing and then melts on contact and then freezes. I’m in my second winter with Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 and I keep wondering why I’m slipping everywhere while everyone else seems to be zooming past me. I had Blizzaks on my previous vehicle and felt much more secure on the road with them. Suggestions?
@ChristianBaranowski
@ChristianBaranowski 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget the new Pirelli P Zero E with the AAA label, and the Continental NXT also with the AAA label for the summer test.
@sashax91
@sashax91 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking of last 2 weeks 💙 Would you recommend to go for Michelin Cross Climate 2 and forget about changing tyres twice a year or to get Michelin Alpin 5 for winter in Berlin (not more than 2 weeks of snow a year) on 320d and Pilot Sport 5 for summer? I am not racing but occasionally do drive 200+ on autobahns in summer time.
@sk-un5jq
@sk-un5jq 2 ай бұрын
When in doubt, go with Michelin. I have the CC2s for 2 yrs and they're amazing in all seasons.
@LaGantoise
@LaGantoise 2 ай бұрын
I sold my winterset last year. They were just catching dust in my garage. For a few years now we have had warm winters. 10°C and it only goes to 0°C during the night and only 2 or 3 times during the day. I'm back to runing all seasons year around.
@acerimmer8338
@acerimmer8338 2 ай бұрын
I've owned multiple sets of Michelin Pilot Alpin thru the years and have always been amazed at the grip levels in the dry. On my daily twisty on-ramps it would only be a few MPH under my summer tire variants when pushed. Very good in the snow... initially. My last set only got me thru 3 winters, which was appx 10k total miles (I don't drive a lot). That third winter I could barely get up a hill I had no trouble w/ the first 2 years (in the same car and more snow). I know winters don't last incredibly long but was sorely disappointed. My PA4's before that gave me 5 winters, but only ~15k miles. My only (big) gripe w/ the tires.
@gaila.8830
@gaila.8830 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video 😊 What about Bridgestone? Do you test them as well?
@Pierobon
@Pierobon 2 ай бұрын
You are the only one doing tire reviews worth watching... Everything else is just noise! haha Will there be a nordic-winter-only video coming out this winter?
@Ma-uk3ke
@Ma-uk3ke 2 ай бұрын
Great test! I noticed that Michelin Alpin 7 wasn't included. Any idea when you'll be testing those? Looking forward to seeing how they perform compared to the others!
@sebastijan2758
@sebastijan2758 2 ай бұрын
Seeing all the comments about not including Michelin Alpin 7 and Bridgestone Blizzak 6. Aren’t those touring tyres? This test is about UHP winter tyres. Michelin normally has the name Pilot for the sporty tyres.
@grasho
@grasho 2 ай бұрын
Why is Hankook WInter Icept Evo 3 and the Conti TS 870 in the test then? Aren't they touring tires as well?
@sebastijan2758
@sebastijan2758 2 ай бұрын
@@grasho don’t know about the conti, but the iCept Evo 3 is a UHP tyre. The touring tyre from Hankook is the iCept RS3.
@CapitulationTrader
@CapitulationTrader 2 ай бұрын
You are great at what you do. I appreciate it and thank you
@thankyouchina3836
@thankyouchina3836 2 ай бұрын
Great video but i feel like dry and especially wet testing should be done in winter temperatures too for them to be representative. Testing them in warmer conditions in my opinion makes it confusing for many people who interpret it as them being crap compared to summer/all season tyres when they are simply outside of their comfort zone.
@nd4wd
@nd4wd 2 ай бұрын
Bridgestone Blizzak 6, Michelin Alpin 7 are new models, sorry to hear that the Bridgestone could not be delivered on time, because they are always at the very top places, thank you for the detailed review.
@nikolapokupec1013
@nikolapokupec1013 2 ай бұрын
Great review as always - is there another on the way for high-performance (16 or 17s) tyres on the way? Have you managed to test Alpin 7 or Blizzak 6 in time for the upcoming winter season?
@surenkv6461
@surenkv6461 Ай бұрын
I am using Yokohama ice-guard Tire. It's the best winter tire.
@Adam_Rosenberg91
@Adam_Rosenberg91 2 ай бұрын
Looking at the graphs really puts things into perspective... if you aren't expecting to be driving on snow/ice most of the time, a good all-season may actually be the more sensible choice in probably most European climates?
@charlesb4267
@charlesb4267 Ай бұрын
I had just purchased a set of Nokian LT3 studded tires ( LT 275/65R20 load range E which is now a common factory tire size for both the GM and Ford heavy duty pickups ) for a single wheel 1 ton truck, although I am awaiting the truck to arrive from the factory but rounded up some factory wheels so purchased tires before "silly season" really comes on strong here in Alberta Canada. The reason I even bought these tires is due to all the hype around Nokian tires but am second guessing my decision as the rubber even at room temperature is as hard of not harder than an all terrain tire. So my gut tells me these will not perform well compared to various P rated stud-less tires I have had on a 1/2 ton in the past due to the lack of siping volume and this hard compound. What I have found very difficult is to find much information on winter tire performance comparisons of these E rated LT type tires designed for heavier pickups relative to their own grouping class, never mind comparing them to the best car/light truck tires. Do you have any plans of doing a tire shootout with winter tires on a heavy duty pickup ?. I realize this truck segment is more of a Canada/USA theme and certainly when it comes to winter. While an A/T three mountain snow peak tire test has merit, those tires do not cut it when it comes to the all out ice conditions we can and so often get, I wonder if these E rated "winter" tires can do well enough either.
@douglaswatt1582
@douglaswatt1582 2 ай бұрын
Another superb review. Jonathan is setting The Benchmark in tire reviews. Only minus is that for some strange reason no blizzak?
@borutsiraj6086
@borutsiraj6086 Ай бұрын
I roll the Goodyear UltraGrip Performance 3 on my '22 Audi A4 Avant 40 TDI Quattro S line, the car is literally unstoppable.
@SomeGuysGarage
@SomeGuysGarage 2 ай бұрын
Have had my Pilot Alpin 5's for a few years now in OE size on my Macan GTS....they are an outstanding tire. Really gives up so little compared to the summer Latitude Sport 3's (OE N0 tires) and don't have that squishy/noisy feeling like most of the Michelin XIce tires I've ran on other vehicles.
@richardd8708
@richardd8708 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for this great informative video! :D
@stefanbaptiste143
@stefanbaptiste143 2 ай бұрын
Awesome review as always. How does the new pirelli or the conti compare to the pirelli Sottozero3? To date it has been the best uhp winter that I've tried, especially in my type of winter which is predominantly wet. Looking for a replacement that will match its wet and dry performance. Driving on the Sottozero3, you forget that you're on winters as they handle so well and are very responsive. Any recommendations are welcome.
@Insomnia_e46
@Insomnia_e46 2 ай бұрын
Any opinion on which of the studded winter tires to go with? A communicative and not super snappy tire would suit winter rwd car "fun" quite nicely. In my experience and the Nokia Hakkapeliitta tires have previously done a good job, as opposed to Bridgestones that felt quite snappy when going from grip to over/understeer.
@ProsixOfficial
@ProsixOfficial 15 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I really appreciate the effort put into this. Do you recommend Hankook for an EV? I own a model 3 2024 and I am a bit worried about the noise. I rarely see snow in Bucharest ( if any) and I do not want to spend so much on P Zero or Sottozero3 here it s almost double the price. I could really appreciate your advice. Thanks!
@moredeth1991
@moredeth1991 Ай бұрын
I think Hankook evo3 is best price/perfomance tire in this top. Just get them on my 4x4 Kodiaq. In one week of usage in +/- 5-12C in primary dry conditions, all i can say, its good and quiet tire for normal regular driving. Waiting winter, will see how it handle.
@deima5589
@deima5589 2 ай бұрын
amazing review as always, how does WinterContact TS 870 P compare to Continental Viking Contact 8?
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