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Jamie Marsland

Jamie Marsland

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Specifically, I take a closer look at two popular themes: Kadence and Spectra One. As many of you may know, block themes have emerged as a new approach to customization, relying solely on blocks, while classic themes offer a more traditional way of customizing using the WordPress customizer.
Recently, I conducted a Twitter poll to gauge the community's opinion on the functionality and ease of use of both theme types. The responses were quite intriguing.
Meg took on the challenge of performing various tasks using both the Kadence Classic theme and the Spectra One block theme. The tasks ranged from adding a site logo and changing the header background color to modifying the blog column layout and altering font styles.
Throughout the testing, we observed interesting differences in usability and complexity between the two themes. It became evident that block themes, like Spectra One, posed more challenges for a beginner, while classic themes, such as Kadence, offered a smoother and more straightforward experience out of the box.
However, I believe there's a significant opportunity to improve the usability of block themes, allowing them to reach a wider audience and achieve mass adoption. In this video, I'll be sharing the results of our user testing and discussing the implications of these findings.

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@leokerr9784
@leokerr9784 Жыл бұрын
Illustrates how coders/computer literates screw up the user interface by making assumptions about users knowledge levels or interpretive skills - saw lots of this in early software development - you should pass this video to block theme developers Jamie to show them why so many are frustrated with the unintuitive nature of block themes. Great video.
@heystenner
@heystenner Жыл бұрын
Wow, it was such a relief to see that I'm not the only one who gets insanely confused by the FSE user interface. I love the block theme approach, but the usability still has a long way to go.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Yup 100% agree
@webgeneral
@webgeneral Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%! I was actually very happy when Kadence and Generate Press announced not to go down that road...
@MarioGZito
@MarioGZito Жыл бұрын
@@webgeneral Me too!
@MarioGZito
@MarioGZito Жыл бұрын
I think that Gutenberg and blocks system was a great change that despite FSE is already a great thing we can use in so many themes.
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef Жыл бұрын
I'm sticking with Kadence 🙂
@Anon-gd4mj
@Anon-gd4mj 8 ай бұрын
Agree with your analysis totally. I am a beginner and I tried to use block themes multiple times and gave up out of sheer frustration!
@tim78723
@tim78723 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Megs, to me, when you start with nothing it's more difficult to wind up with something. I want to enjoy the block themes, but I don't have the imagination to see it the way that it's supposed to be. Great content Jamie. Thanks
@j.singer8461
@j.singer8461 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree ! I'm not good at visualizing either.
@timoti2
@timoti2 Жыл бұрын
Ha - found this as i'm into the second week of teaching design students WP… initially was going to teach both approaches, consulted a bit more with students - who are future focussed and so we opted to go FSE but heck it can be challenging - a lot.more than it should be, so far.
@realfingertrouble
@realfingertrouble Жыл бұрын
Once you get the hang of it, it's way more flexible and wonderful (barring recent burps like the weird navigation update changing the way my nav looks on several sites - what was that about? And the recent block theme shortcode security nightmare) but certainly major learning curve. I've designed my own classic themes back in the day since 2004, know CSS and some PHP and the like, and even I really struggled with FSE (Create Block Theme would have made it 100% more easier but it didn't exist then). Usually around typography - they really need to build Google typefaces in rather than 3rd party.
@vertimaron
@vertimaron Жыл бұрын
Everyone has their hobby, mine is creating websites! I don't use them, but I've had this passion for 3 months now and it's crazy how many tutorials I've watched and sites I've built. I learn something new every day without ever getting bored! And the best part is that I work on my Android smartphone. Luckily, it's possible to do this with page builders like Gutenberg and Spectra in WordPress, because it doesn't work with Elementor...( This is a translation with ChatGPT, I speak french)
@mdashrafuddin2825
@mdashrafuddin2825 Жыл бұрын
How do you work with android?
@clarebrody1
@clarebrody1 Жыл бұрын
Gutenberg has awful reviews.. are you really using it? Or am I missing a different plugin
@binaryfire
@binaryfire Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Jamie and Meg! Would love to see more like this. Really shows what the UX is like from a client's perspective.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@naukadladzieci
@naukadladzieci Жыл бұрын
​@@jamiewpbut you need to alternate the tasks to be fair, she kind of had the idea already whe approached the kadence logo. Hope this video will teach developers something.
@noliver4u2
@noliver4u2 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! It was good to hear Megs opinion after completing the challenge.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nancy - it was a really interesting experiment for sure
@FranciscoManuelMancera
@FranciscoManuelMancera Жыл бұрын
It's like Wordpress believes that end users want to be designers. In my experience, clients want something that doesn't complicate their lives, to be able to manage their content without having to worry about the design, just change some typography, colors, etc. Very basic things. I also see that as developers the FSE theme and block system is more difficult than the classic themes. It could discourage theme designers who are more focused on design and layout knowledge than pure programming. I've been wondering for months if Wordpress will remove the classic themes in two or three years.
@thatgrrlca
@thatgrrlca 6 ай бұрын
I've found very few web designers who actually know HTML. They heavily rely on WordPress. Without WordPress they couldn't build a site at all. I may not be a WP expert, but I can still build a simple site with HTML. I never went looking for clients because I felt I didn't know enough to do sites for someone else and didn't want to make cookie cutter sites. Now, they all look like cookie cutter sites really. Kind of funny. People could build their own sites, if they just took a little time to do so.
@richmaniow
@richmaniow Жыл бұрын
Certainly share Megs frustration with site editing but interesting to see that once she started becoming familiar with certain icons (like the colour style - half white half black one) she became much quicker at editing elements plus she wasn't aware of the list view, which as you pointed out makes things much easier. It still feels like Block Editing has someway to go especially regarding Headers, Footers and editing the main theme but i feel it's pretty good in terms of page content editing now.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Yup great points Richard 👍
@dontrez8412
@dontrez8412 Жыл бұрын
Actually, this was a great tutorial video without meaning to be one. It shows what I would've probably done. It also shows some of the things I would've assumed to NOT do because of experience level, but would've been wrong as well. We kinda worked out a few kinks together the way this video was done. 👏
@richardstenlund2431
@richardstenlund2431 Жыл бұрын
This really shows that block themes are a great idea but implementation and usability has quite a long way to go. I teach WordPress and every time I show my students how block themes works they all say: isn´t there a better way, it´s too complicated. Showing an older theme everybody thinks it is way better and easier to use.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
100% agree Richard - the learning curve needs to be squashed for sure 👍
@HelenaDenley
@HelenaDenley Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to watch Megan trying to find things in Spectra compared to Kadence. I've tried a couple of times, starting out with a new site using FSE, but then I can't do all that I've been able to with Kadence, so I go back to Kadence.
@comartse
@comartse Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic concept! It's enjoyable to keep up with. It's beneficial for my clients that I decided to use Kadence, as it encourages them to interact with their websites. Many thanks to both of you for your hard work on this!Great idea! Fun to follow. It seems helpful for my clients that I have chosen to work with Kadence because I want them to engage in their websites. Thank you, both of you, for your work on this!
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@erling5148
@erling5148 Жыл бұрын
The outcome would have been different when she started out with kadence ... something to do with pre knowledge
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef Жыл бұрын
I would not inflict a block theme on a paying client, I would expect instant buyer's remorse and demand for a refund.
@jonbloor8661
@jonbloor8661 Жыл бұрын
Love the video Jamie. Since discovering your channel and Club Pootle, I've persevered with FSE but have had to resort to a block theme to achieve the results I needed. I'd find a video about blocks and columns and containers helpful (I think you've covered it in some of your videos) to help me master the FSE approach.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon 🙏
@LjubomirTesic
@LjubomirTesic 9 ай бұрын
I was faced with the same dilemma when restoring an old website the other day. Although I like the concept of fse themes better, sometimes I get confused about a little thing and waste too much time digging through the options. Great video!
@jamiewp
@jamiewp 9 ай бұрын
thank you
@abenjamin13
@abenjamin13 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ❤the video Jamie thank you 🙏.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thank you - it was fun to make 🤩
@MarioGZito
@MarioGZito Жыл бұрын
I am one that believes block themes will have a better user interface one day but for now, they are too far from that. Blocksy, Generatepress, and Kadence are state-of-the-art, true masterpieces while block themes are like a craft with the potential to one day become a work of art
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
There is certainly a learning curve atm
@RecipesLive
@RecipesLive 11 ай бұрын
Have not tried or tested a block theme. 😢 I do not want to invest the time, to many other innovations to keep up with. 😮 ❤ love your work. 😊
@jamiewp
@jamiewp 11 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@jimnech5066
@jimnech5066 Жыл бұрын
Jamie, as always a great and informative video!
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim
@AIContentHacker
@AIContentHacker Жыл бұрын
Love the way you compare themes! And the step rating is quite fun! But actually, when I use the theme, I kind of "hero thinks alike" with the DIVI theme. This could not be measured.
@mshamirtaloo
@mshamirtaloo Жыл бұрын
Very good way of exploring, I like it
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
thank you
@parmasampa1
@parmasampa1 3 ай бұрын
I liked this video where your daughter plays with spectra because i had the opportunity to see that it's not just me who has a little difficulty and i'm starting to learn about wordpress, i had difficulty how to hide the menu and footer using spectra block , can you make a video on how to create a land page with spetra one and spectra block, another detail that i find kind of boring in the free version of spetra block is the counter that i couldn't make it look pretty, or to appear in a modal.
@visualmodo
@visualmodo Жыл бұрын
Truly good work!!!
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@orhancolak8688
@orhancolak8688 Жыл бұрын
This seems more like a user experience comparison with the theme type rather than a theme comparison.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s exactly what it is 👍
@marioStortuga
@marioStortuga Жыл бұрын
I tried spectra one and went back to the Astra version. Spectra Block theme needs more work in the layout an usability. For new people I think Classic themes are better less of a learning curve
@PatriciaBT
@PatriciaBT Жыл бұрын
Well, once Meg got used to blocks (which btw are also used in classic theme's content) she just went faster... FSE being the ability to use blocks in the other-than-content parts, it's difficult to compare really. At least with block themes, beginners do not need to learn 2 different ways to edit (in classic themes, the customizer for global things, then blocks for the content), without mentionning that all classic themes have different customizer settings... beside this, I find it lovely to have your daughter as a tester, my teenage kids do not want to hahaha
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks Patricia - all great points👍 . I’ve actually got three daughters but I’ve failed so far to get Hetty (15) to appear (bribery hasn’t worked)
@Terry-Adams
@Terry-Adams Жыл бұрын
great video and good to see the UI experiment with a complete beginner. I think the same can be said for most of the tutorials that are out there. Getting the core concepts down is difficult. Some things though are really much better Like editing and establishing the style sheet that will modify the whole site. Anyway, I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago, and wish I had found it a long time ago.
@Terry-Adams
@Terry-Adams Жыл бұрын
Also in future head to heads don't forget to switch which goes first back and forth a bit. (maybe you did in the experiment).
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thank you Terry, and welcome to the channel
@anthonyrude
@anthonyrude 4 ай бұрын
Can you add drop shadows to text on the free version of kadence blocks?
@ghostrunner9596
@ghostrunner9596 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video!
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alanjerram9258
@alanjerram9258 Жыл бұрын
The FSE interface is so unintuitive, it's almost like they put a lot of effort in thinking of ways to make it confusing. And I don't this is the usual resistance to change. It's just not a good UI.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Yup Wordpress 6.3 has a big focus on improving it, whether it moves the needle far enough, we’ll have to wait and see
@clarebrody1
@clarebrody1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! So glad i found your channel. Is kadence wp one of your favorite themes?
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks and yes Kadence is a great theme
@labsecrets-spence
@labsecrets-spence Жыл бұрын
20:38 FTW Kadence! ;-) 😂
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
I made this one just for you Spencer 😅
@realfingertrouble
@realfingertrouble Жыл бұрын
Defintiely 2, I think we're on the same sort of feature level as classic themes, maybe more - but it's far harder to use still. Definitely not 3. (EDIT: said that before watching the video, nice to be vindicated!)
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - I agree with you
@SingaporeMathsAcademyUK
@SingaporeMathsAcademyUK Жыл бұрын
Great video, would have been good to see if Kadence blocks would have been quicker (which I think it would!)
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Thanks - do you mean quicker than core blocks ?
@SingaporeMathsAcademyUK
@SingaporeMathsAcademyUK Жыл бұрын
@@jamiewp yes definitely, I've managed to spend 12 hours to complete the layout of a website using Kadence pro. It looks stunning but I would never have been able to do this with a standard classic theme without blocks.
@SingaporeMathsAcademyUK
@SingaporeMathsAcademyUK Жыл бұрын
@@jamiewp also have you seen Sensei LMS? Jaw droppingly beautiful LMS that whoops all others in terms or pure aesthetics but makimg courses is a little more time consuming but in my opinion worth it. Hoping the actual functionality improves with further development but in terms of block LMS (some new content for you to cover? Ask them to send me a free Pro licence lol), hands down the best, right?
@crazyworld7485
@crazyworld7485 10 ай бұрын
Please help me about how to import template kits with full header & footer or how to edit main navigation menu on mobile i can’t edit stye or size menu navigation when show on mobile screen for me it is importance but never see how to edit from any video on KZbin. Please help ❤❤
@gashumba888
@gashumba888 7 ай бұрын
I wonder how she would have fared using Astra! Classic themes are not all the same, especially when it comes to the Customizer section. Block theme remove the fragmentation.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp 7 ай бұрын
Yup great points 👍
@kbleivik
@kbleivik 10 ай бұрын
I remember a fractal programmed i C. It was fast, but 100 times faster when an assembly programmer changed the code.
@WineGiftBoxMaker
@WineGiftBoxMaker Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining AND TRUE. Someday I hope Kadence will feature voice actuated instructions to speed this up even more - "show me global background setting", I don;t like this font, please suggest 3 others that match my topic" , and finally disable autoLIKE my videos because the cats are getting FAT.
@tobiaslofi
@tobiaslofi Жыл бұрын
Wow. Just showed me that WP in general is still very complex….
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef Жыл бұрын
WordPress has become: WordMess
@freddymercury2259
@freddymercury2259 3 ай бұрын
Which theme is faster, though? That is the main thing
@jamiewp
@jamiewp 3 ай бұрын
There's no real difference
@freddymercury2259
@freddymercury2259 3 ай бұрын
@@jamiewp I thought block themes are faster than classic themes?
@jamiewp
@jamiewp 3 ай бұрын
@@freddymercury2259 generally yes, but classic themes can also be very fast
@aminproduct
@aminproduct Ай бұрын
After watching all videos of spectra, still don't know about spectra, even I understand most of 3d animation tool, but don't understand spectra.😅
@KomentarSaya
@KomentarSaya Жыл бұрын
ui/ux designer should be testiny by noob or newbie like this for better perspective
@dontrez8412
@dontrez8412 Жыл бұрын
On the one hand, my kids 😒🙄don't even want to know how to do this stuff. The only way I could get them to do this with me is to tell them that they might go Tik Tok 💃 viral 🤑. On the other hand, over the years that he's been building websites, I think she has probably seen the customizer before. I'd like to see her do this with the OceanWP customizer. 🤭😜
@realfingertrouble
@realfingertrouble Жыл бұрын
P,S, the Edit Page vs Edit Site IS really confusing!
@pierres_blog
@pierres_blog Жыл бұрын
The problem with trying to make things easier to use is that developers are making decisions. They need supervision.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
😬
@esperandounmejorcielo4385
@esperandounmejorcielo4385 Жыл бұрын
more videos with meg! please, pretty!!!!
@DiannaCheng
@DiannaCheng Жыл бұрын
Fun video but not a true usability test with you sitting next to her, leading her, speaking etc. 😂
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
True 😉
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef Жыл бұрын
So Block Themes and Gutenberg are actually designed to waste our time... right? UX nightmare and total fail. Kudos to your daughter for being such a sport 🙏
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Well there’s a steeper learning curve at the moment but they open up a world of creativity if you get over that - check out my other videos to see some examples
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef Жыл бұрын
@@jamiewp I agree, all joking aside, but at this point it's not just a learning curve we're up against.. I love to lock myself in a room, pot of coffee, and go into Monk Mode to learn something new.. but the sheer confusion of terminology, and the feeling that in block themes, just trying to accomplish the simplest and most basic of tasks, it's like negotiating a mine field, maliciously designed and laid down by Automattic/WordPress in an attempt to trip us up and drive us out of our minds in frustration.
@fineasfrogshair
@fineasfrogshair Жыл бұрын
Block themes and especially Full SIte Editing themes suck!
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Well they’re the same thing but thanks for your comment 👍
@TorstenMeise
@TorstenMeise Жыл бұрын
Hundreds of pointless clicks later I gave up on Spectra One. Never seen such an annoying theme.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
It sounds like a Wordpress issue rather than a theme issue
@SzilviaVirag
@SzilviaVirag Жыл бұрын
The block editor has ruined wordpress.
@jamiewp
@jamiewp Жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate?
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