The Best & Worst Gaming CPUs of 2023 Ranked! ⚡ Tier List

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AMD AM5 Processors (Current Generation)
AMD Ryzen 5 7500F
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AMD Ryzen 5 7600
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AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
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AMD Ryzen 7 7700
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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
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AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
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AMD Ryzen 9 7900
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AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
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AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
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Intel LGA1700 Processors
Intel Core i3 12100F
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Intel Core i3 13100F
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Intel Core i5 12400F
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Intel Core i5 12600KF
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Intel Core i7 12700KF
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Intel Core i5 13600KF
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Intel Core i5 14600KF
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Intel Core i7 13700KF
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Intel Core i7 14700KF
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AMD AM4 Processors (Last Generation)
Ryzen 3 4100
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Ryzen 5 4500
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Ryzen 5 5500
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Ryzen 5 5600
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Ryzen 5 5600X3D
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Ryzen 7 5700X
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Ryzen 7 5800X
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Ryzen 7 5800X3D
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Ryzen 7 5900X
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Ryzen 7 5950X
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This is my current ranking of the best and worst gaming CPUs you can either build a new pc around or upgrade to if you've already built one!
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0:00 - The Best and Worst CPUs of 2023 (and 2024)
0:47 - Ryzen 8000 APUs shouldn't affect rankings
1:54 - Ad: World of Warships
3:29 - AMD Ryzen 3 4100
4:14 - Intel Core i3 12100/12100F
5:24 - AMD Ryzen 5 4500
5:55 - AMD Ryzen 5 5500
6:18 - AMD Ryzen 5 4600G
6:46 - Intel Core i3 13100/13100F
7:16 - AMD Ryzen 5 5600
7:46 - AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
8:07 - Intel Core i5 12400/12400F
8:58 - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
9:13 - Intel Core i5 12600K/12600KF
9:46 - AMD Ryzen 5 7500F
10:55 - AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
12:20 - AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
12:27 - Intel Core i5 13400F
12:45 - Ryzen 5 7600/7600X
13:20 - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
13:46 - Intel Core i7 12700K/12700KF
14:29 - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D
15:17 - Intel Core i5 13500
16:00 - Intel Core i5 13600K/13600KF
17:00 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
17:38 - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
18:30 - Intel Core i5 14600K/14600KF
19:11 - AMD Ryzen 7 7700/7700X
20:04 - Intel Core i7 13700K/13700KF
20:55 - Intel Core i9 12900KS/12900KF
21:33 - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
23:13 - AMD Ryzen 9 7900/7900X
23:44 - Intel Core i7 14700K/14700KF
23:56 - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
24:44 - AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D
25:23 - Intel Core i9 13900KS/13900KF
25:59 - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
26:42 - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
27:15 - Intel Core i9 14900KS/14900KF
27:25 - Intel Core i5 12500
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[@ScatterVolt]

*UPDATED 2024 CPU TIER LIST VIDEO:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIOckpinYrOrsKM Aka, watch this one instead. It's newer ☝

[@eddiemeddie2018]

I don’t get why some people are getting mad at this guy. Some people don’t understand this a tier list for ONLY GAMING!!! If you are buying a cpu only for gaming, then stick with ryzen 7. They are perfect for gaming experience. You don’t need Ryzen 9… They are used for other things like video editing or software development.

[@ScatterVolt]

👆👆

[@cademckenna863]

Because this guy is somehow being biased as shit towards AMD LMAO. saying "you don't need a i9 for gaming" when if you want the most performance for gaming especially for esports games which are heavily cpu bound games then getting a i9 13 or 14th gen cpu is what you wanna get. Gamers Nexus has shown the i9 14900k is the fastest gaming cpu on the market currently for gaming. Yes as a budget cpu an i9 is almost never worth it. But again if you want top performance then the i9 14th gen is going to be what gets you it

[@Yardo]

@@ScatterVoltthis list was great except for the 13400f ranking. You fail to mention that it gets 12600k performance for slightly more money, but it’s also more power efficient and doesn’t need an expensive Z690 or Z790 motherboard to operate at that speed.

[@doombuca]

​@@cademckenna863intel glazing is crazy, amd has 10x better cpu and 10x more affordable, keep crying

[@Cube930]

@@cademckenna863lol gamers nexus has shown a 7800X3D is way better than anything intel has. Big L Also, there no upgrade path for any current intel chip. 14th is the last on that socket. If youre future proofing AMD is the way to go.

[@bmdshred77]

Microcenter bundles insane right now. $349 for 5800x3d , Asus mobo, 16 gigs ram. I picked up extra ram for 32 gigs totaling $377 plus tax. They had other bundles too but 5800 x3d is still kicking butt

[@manumudgal5776]

in my country 5800x3d alone cost 385.78 $ that too is sold out now.

[@gabrielcastro4455]

@@manumudgal5776in Portugal it’s 290€, just bought it today

[@mariuskirsininkas8197]

​@@manumudgal5776in Lithuania for almost same price I can get 7800x3d they are available for about 360€ so planning what should I grab just for start and later on I can just upgrade my gpu to a better one than 3070ti maybe a better ssd or a fancy case really want to get hyte 70 but that stuff is as expensive as that cpu 😂😂

[@mariuskirsininkas8197]

​@@manumudgal5776would love to rip that b450 with that r9 3900x out as soon as I can but budget is kinda tight atm

[@joshmanuel3773]

​@@manumudgal5776microcenter is literally the only place here that sales them so cheap too. Newegg might price match their bundles sometimes, but that's it. 7800x3d bundle is 499 there too.

[@bradstreetmichael]

The problem I have with some of the newer AMD systems (haven't checked the Intel yet) is the price of the motherboard is a lot higher than a B550 motherboard running DDR 4, especially in an ITX build.

[@Theworthsearcher]

But what about the upgrade path? And windows licence? AMD has a ver good upgrade path, which means 22 MOBOs from intel. So actually you can half that price, or double the intel's MOBO price. And also thw dinows licence key price because it connects to the MOBO. ;)

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

The cost of a B650 over a B550 is a big difference, but the leap from AM4 to AM5 is worth it. Especially when you consider that AM4 has no path to upgrade and uses last gen DDR4 RAM. With my X670E I'm PCIe gen 5.0 ready, which is rumored to come out with the RTX 5000 series.

[@Theworthsearcher]

Dear @@TheBattleRabbit860 , Finally someone, who understands, what I am talking about for a long time. Platform longevity... Menawhile intel was on the same node at 12th, 13th and 14th gen, AMD already went down from 5nm to 4 nm. And probably 9000 series is on 4 nm and Zen 6 will be produced on 3 nm from TSMC and maybe, not the original 3nm but something like 3nm P, or E, or something, which will be better, than the original 3nm. That is why AMD is a lot better choice now. Probably 1 MOBO instead of 3 MOBOs, especially, if we count intel's 10th and 11th gen Desktop CPUs... 🙂

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

@@Theworthsearcher Intel dropped the ball with the 13th and 14th gen i9 chips. People are having issues with them and need to run them at lower voltage to stop them from crashing, and at the lower voltages the Ryzen 7 7800X3D stomps it in average FPS in most games. As long the 9000 series are AM5 and not AM5+ and I can run it in my X670E mobo, I'll have good.

[@trashasaurus]

To be fair if you get the 5600X3d in the $299 bundle that includes Ram and a mobo it's a nice base to build a budget rig around. Buying it alone at the clearly over inflated price Microcenter set (to encourage you to buy the bundle probably) would definitely not be recommended tho lol.

[@ScatterVolt]

Very true. I keep forgetting about that.

[@dedal24]

I wouldn't put 14600k/f so low, especially lower than 5900x, these two cost about the same but 14600k is significantly faster in gaming. When comparing 14600k and 13600k, performance difference is very small, but 14600k is more energy efficient and runs cooler.

[@logman1014]

The price between the 13 and 14th gen i5 are basically the same as well.

[@ganthc]

I think his point was that all 14s are just rebranded 13s, and he was against that.

[@gstagge]

The 14600k is cheaper than the 13600k here in Brazil, which makes it a great deal. Just got one and it performance amazingly!

[@SugarTea70]

​@@ganthcit happen to us in Asia too, 14th Gen more cheaper than 13th Gen, so we are more like using the new Gen

[@zimiel1516]

the ryzen 5 7600 is on sale for 269$ CAD on newegg, paired with a 6700x at 439$ CAD. Is that suitable to start a fresh build around? if not what would you recommend?

[@bogotstogoskiing]

Depends what resolution you will be gaming at. That'll be a 1080p killer at max settings and at 1440p High settings.

[@mikeh4800]

EXECELANT. One of your best videos. Going to look to see if you have posted a GPU list like this. Thank you for all of your work to make this video happen.

[@_mariko791]

7500f is so underrated and it even beats 5800x3d which is much more expensive. 7500f + a620 + 2x8 ddr5 ram is cheaper than the 5800x3d alone on where I live

[@NGreedia]

I knew the 12600k felt out of place. It was recently priced at the same price as a 5600x

[@ScatterVolt]

What is up with that username 💀

[@ytcreations9675]

​@@ScatterVoltspitting some facts I guess

[@Unboundiing]

@@ScatterVolthe knows what’s up

[@Direwoof]

Ye i got a 12600kf on blk friday for 120 dollars. Insane deal and still a decent performar.

[@Unboundiing]

@@Direwoof you and me got the exact same deal haha. What motherboard did you end up going with? Just curious because my original one arrived broken so I’m in the market for a different one now

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Seems fair. 12900KF seems to chunk less frames in my experience in raid versus 12700KF. A lot of games are still not using more than the 8 core meta or less.

[@Hardsky5123]

12900kf and 12700kf have the same amount of P cores.

[@congheleechconghelach9860]

Loved this video thanks for the info very concise. Good job bro

[@GriLtCheeZ]

Very helpful video, thank you!

[@albanian5525]

As someone with a 7900x, I can somewhat agree with the listing. When it comes to gaming I definitely agree, but for all around usage I'd definitely rank it higher. A part of me has some kind of buyers remorse getting it over the 7800x3D.

[@RainDrpz]

I have extreme buyers remourse for the 7800x3d. I should have gotten a 13600k and safed my cash. bad motherboards unstable memory controllers and DDR5 isnt that impressive

[@bruh-nq5px]

@@RainDrpz You are TRIPPING if you think the 13600k with ddr4 could hold a candle to a 7800x3d with ddr5 lmao

[@ScatterVolt]

You should bios update your motherboard when you can. That 7800X3D should be working wonder for you.

[@yusifr1]

I have the 7900x3d i didnt know what i was doing when i built this pc i paired it with a 4070 😂. But to be fair the cpu has been performing amazingly well, but it was pricey. Is the 7800x3d better in terms of performance?

[@bruh-nq5px]

@@yusifr1 for purely gaming, the 7800x3d is better yeah but the 7900x3d smokes it in productivity stuff

[@schulausfall3165]

Running on a 7500F, I dont see a reason why I should upgrade my CPU in the next 2 years. This budget CPU is madness

[@ScatterVolt]

Public perception for budget 6 core cpus = inadequate, when it reality it's totally fine.

[@jeffrey1296-rl1mi]

I agree w that, very humbley build u have, it’s definitely a power puff of a build, rn as of February 2024 the prices changed for 7000x series CPUs I was hoping for an updated list as the pricing changed so much that it’s the cheapest it’s EVER been for a 7900x3D which I easily caved and bought one

[@8tavian999]

Hello ScatterVolt, I have a question: Well my i5 4590 with 8gb of ram got pretty long in the tooth and screams for an upgrade. The main aplication for my next build is to do 3D modelling in Creo, Blender and Alias, video editing in Vegas PRO; some later AAA games and some 6-8 year f2p old games. The GPU i have is a RX5600XT. Even tough Intel has better performance/core for the programs mentioned above, i’ve already bought a MSI B550M Mortar for cheap. Im wanting to buy 5950x second hand and get the 32gb ram and a d ak 620 cooler for it. Here in eastern europe i find 5800x at @ 180$ 5900x at @250$ and 5950X at@330$. Wich one would you buy? The ETA for the next upgrade after this build i estimate it will be 2028 new gpu for me at least and 2030 cpu + mobo. Thank you for you time!

[@captpootis8495]

Hey Scattervolt, Great video! I will say the 12700k was done a bit dirty, the kf varient is $190 or right at $200 last i checked. Thats still really strong and people use it at 1440p and 4k with 4080's and 7900xtx. Cant wait to see the standings in 9 months time lol.

[@ScatterVolt]

We’ll see. After all, a $200 7600 outperforms it in gaming 😅

[@captpootis8495]

@@ScatterVolt True, its mostly for those who "need" 8 cores on the side. You really only need 6 cores. The 12700k is better in terms of workstation application. I myself think the 7600 is better overall except workstaion applications. Also not to be that "guy" but the 7600 rn is $230. Prices change so hard.

[@Friskyztv]

@@captpootis8495​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠I’d rather go 12700k it keeps up, if not better sometimes than the 7700/x, 7600 is good but 12700k takes all of them due to price and more cores & threads for more things done at once. I also think 12700k should have been a lot higher definitely.

[@captpootis8495]

@@Friskyztv Not in single threaded performance aka gaming. Yea id say the 12700k is fast for workstation and pretty nice for gaming but in terms of actual speed its slower then the 7600. And the same for the 7700x. Look on toms hardware, its ever prevelant that the amd cpus (7000) series are better. Even a 7500f or hell even a 5800x3d is faster for gaming. Its not core count, its single threaded performance you want to look for.

[@guyza123]

Yeah, some of these new games actually want 8 cores, AAA stuff. It is rare but there you go. Well they use all the cores you have.

[@jonah11111]

Great video great listing, this guy knows his stuff

[@Thesmackdownartist]

In india 13500 sells for 265$ and 13600k sells for 345$ . And 13500 is 90% of 13600k for 80$ less . 13500 is S tier in india

[@ScatterVolt]

Very good point

[@abinask.a6980]

7600x or 13500 is better for gaming

[@ScatterVolt]

It’s close but I don’t know which one is faster off the top of my head. Lookup some KZbin videos for comparison.

[@Thesmackdownartist]

@@abinask.a6980 using 13500 asrock b760m steel legend 32gb g skill 6000 mhz asus dual 6700XT getting 280+fps on counter strike 2 on 1080p ultra maxing out every thing great pc. Other games run well

[@Tomas91709]

@@abinask.a6980 in most games 7600x for sure due to it's fast single core performance

[@oc3264]

Interesting analysis, thank you.

[@charliem2139]

Detailed, straight forward, all info you need for those who dont have a clue what to buy. Cant ask for more, great video! Keep doing this kind of videos, i like that you took time to split it up to each CPU :) Again, great video!

[@ScatterVolt]

Thank you!

[@brentw8365]

I got my 7500F for ~$135, then snagged a B650M HDV for $110, and lastly a 32GB 6000 C32 Lexar RAM for $85. Doubt I'll be upgrading for a while.

[@ScatterVolt]

Beautiful work

[@penonton4260]

no GPU ?

[@brentw8365]

@@penonton4260 used 6700XT for $240

[@pepinito244]

Where did you buy the processor?

[@alexholmstrom7968]

where did you buy the cpu?

[@Jason-ol1ty]

Hmm buying a new CPU from AliExpress... I might consider it, since I found CPUs to be reliable parts in general. I've gotten old Xeons from them before, but never considered using them for new tech until now with the 7500F situation.

[@ScatterVolt]

7500F is a yes on Aliexpress

[@fgwinstontv5493]

you really do educate us very well. because i dont have a good idea on these graphics cards

[@prokz283]

Thanks! This is so helpul

[@techluvin7691]

The 5960x is NOT a gaming CPU and should not even be considered for this tier list. Now for productivity, that’s another story. The 5950x would score very high on any productivity list. Good job though. I agree with almost all of your rankings. Right now, the 12700k is on deep discounts. I’ve bought a few of them because of this.

[@royaltydiesel6734]

I actually found a video of a guy gaming on Hell Let Loose with 4k monitor max settings getting 140 plus fps etc etc with a sapphire nitro Amd rx 7900 xtx and a 5950x and it looked to work very well.

[@holyvipers9814]

@@royaltydiesel6734 the point of the original comment is to say that a 5800X would do the same job at the same fps, a 5800X3D would do even better than the 5950X, sure, it works well for gaming, but for gaming alone it is all but a waste of sand

[@ivancliffbasilad1786]

Here in our country the 5950x is still expensive. ..so depressing

[@calebsuhl2229]

How would I research the best bang for buck motherboard for the ryzen 5 7500F? I am trying to build my first pc on a budget and am a bit lost on what is what sometimes.

[@herbertwalter8693]

i have built three budget AM5 PCs for friends and family so far. these rigs were intended to be upgradeable in the future. After some compatibility issues with an MSI board (am5 was really new and bios/memory compatibility was crap then) i switched to ASRock and stayed with it ever since. no issues so far. Boards i used: 1. ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2: -about 120 bucks -proven to be able to handle the 7950x under all core load in cinebench -2 M.2 slots (1 pcie 5.0) -only 2 RAM slots (not really an issue) -no 3 pin ARGB headers though! 2. ASRock B650M PRO RS: -about 140 bucks difference to the HDV/M.2: some white paint, a little bit of RGB, 4 RAM slots, a third M.2 slot (two lanes only) and most crucial: some 3 pin ARGB headers! 3. ASRock B650M PG Riptide -about 160 bucks (not really budget anymore imo) -a bit like the PRO RS with some RGB but in black -beefier voltage regulation

[@Theworthsearcher]

Search for a decent Gigabyte board. I am telling it from experience...

[@lonniebeal6032]

@@Theworthsearcher I bought a Gibabyte mb for the 5900X I built 2.5 years ago, it wasn't 5000 series ready like the MSI I exchanged it for.

[@AsianMarkkkk]

Great ranking! But I had One question: the 5800x3D kind of outperforms the r7 7700 (non x) in VALORANT and same with the 7900X. .-. (Minimum FPS for the 7900x and 58003D is lower is what I mean)

[@Melkiskatezzz]

Would you upgrade a 7 5700g to a 5800x3D and what kind of improvement will I see with a gpu like a 3060 ti

[@lellollo]

I have ryzen 9 5900X paired with a 4070 XD In gaming I don’t get bottleneck and I play at 1080p ultrawide. Back in the days I had to choose between my actual cpu and the ryzen 7 5800X3D but I chose the 5900X cuz I needed more cores for virtual machine. And well, watching benchmarks these 2 cpus are not that much different in gaming, but if we look at multiplayer gaming the X3D doesn’t know what bottleneck is. Overall I’m happy about my choise, it is working very well at this resolution and with my gpu. I agree with you list btw

[@falcon6329]

5600g is a great cpu if you dont have a gpu and want to upgrade later. didnt expect it to be this low

[@tjoygaming]

Video prob assumes you have a gpu

[@sergiomoreno8810]

Well, clearly this is about the CPU part itself, which makes the 5600g just a expensive 5500

[@chrswrld_3321]

The first thing I actually noticed was how good the audio is in this video. Not too loud, just right.

[@FieryMeltman]

Great video. Seems very well-made.

[@ScatterVolt]

Thank you!

[@mikesmith-wk7vy]

when i built my computer the best single thread performance chips near the price i could afford was the 5800x and the brand new 12700k , i went with the Ryzen chip because no way was i buying another brand new released intel chip so i would give the 5800x a bit of a better score and the 5800x3d hadn't come out yet

[@jmc9758]

So I got a 14700k with motherboard and 32gigs of ddr5 ram. Do you think that was a good enough deal to get it?

[@smeet3010]

Excellent for 1080p Ultra settings gaming

[@Mathisp76]

Hey! I had in mind the ryzen 7600 with Radeon 7900gre but the intel 5 13600k looks really good, will it work with the amd gpu?

[@irfok727]

Man I really love this channel

[@cloudzgg6709]

Im going to build my pc in about a week with a ryzen 7 7800x3d and a rx 7800 xt 😍

[@XakuT90]

Ok damn ☠

[@hansandhismp-4033]

Good for u bro

[@user-jw3zt1vr8l]

Overkill cpu

[@tonydalimata]

​@@user-jw3zt1vr8lset for years

[@jramos2392]

@@user-jw3zt1vr8lwhat cpu would be good for that card just rpg games 1440

[@Fluskar]

7800x3d is gonna be a cpu ppl are gonna be talking about for years

[@chasef6901]

i bought one and can’t wait to build my new rig with it

[@JayPee6445]

I read quite some reviews of crashes/bsod's with ddr5 memory?

[@herbertwalter8693]

​@@JayPee6445how old are those?

[@mikedasneves]

@@JayPee6445I have a 7600 with a 6700XT. Been 7 months and no BSODS or crashes of any kind.

[@MineTranzProductions]

@@JayPee6445huh??? That happens when they don’t flash and update thier motherboard

[@_ynnek]

Whats a great budget option motherboard to go with the 7500F? So that i can get a better gpu, One of the options are B650M Asrock but considering the price in my region its costs more to get the motherboard than the cpu 😅, a620 motherboards? But i hear people are hating on that thing... Looking for a matx sized, budget as low as possible, and will be playing games such as apex legends, ready or not probably will not play games that require THE BEST gpu like cyberpunk or starfield. I live in Indonesia cheers!

[@PsychoBenches]

I'm having an issue here. 25:59 If you WANT to game a lot, but also do a lot of heavy productivity beyond gaming, would you still recommend the 3D 7950x variant?

[@geewhiz8185]

If It helps - I purchased the 7950x because I game, stream and do photography using lightroom plus photoshop.

[@azravalencia4577]

the problem is the cores cant be overclocked. But tbh, it did pretty well for editing but not so much a very bang of bucks for it. Gamer Nexus does a pretty throughout benchmarking at it, you can check it out. TL:DR: If you really want to kick the productivity, better off with Intel (Especially gen 13/14 i7-i9). But cost hefty price and also TGP draw. Best productivity Ryzen gave so far only 7700X, 7950X and 7950X3D for AM5 plat.

[@DavidMiller-dt8mx]

Something that makes the 7700 a little better of a deal is it comes with the Spire cooler - If you plan on using it.

[@ScatterVolt]

Precisely

[@MaddyCrazyKiller]

Is it capable enough to cool the cpu? What is the noise quality? I was planning to buy thermal x assassin cooler for just 20$

[@DavidMiller-dt8mx]

@@MaddyCrazyKiller As long as you aren't overclocking, it should work fine. I may undervolt it.

[@greeshmaisave5410]

Is 7900 xtx faster than rtx 4090 in davinci? Do you use AV1 encoding or still h.264?

[@ScatterVolt]

No I use AV1

[@benprins8240]

So yea Im a gamer and mostly play top down action, Metroidvanias, side scrollers, platformers and fpses. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 not sure the number there and a GeForce 2060 6 GB I want to upgrade to a newer, more powerful gaming PC and was gonna go with a Ryzen 9 7950 and a asus GeForce Phoenix 3060 12 GB. What cpu GPU combo would you recommend? any feedback is appreciated ☺️

[@usleadershipareliars]

Got a 5700x, for sim racing title such as iracing, F1 2023, Acc its performs great especially on 1080p 100hz. I dive into cp77 and Rdr2 and avg 120 fps. I think in 3 or 4 more years I'll upgrade.

[@0xEF666]

Well in Ukraine ryzen 5 5500 is 105$ and 5 5600 is 165$. So 5500 is S tier for me :)

[@Shaf-ci4om]

You can get a 7700 250$ and 7500F for 180$ in my country. 7600 is in the middle. Seems like 7700 is a really good value.

[@ScatterVolt]

It’s neat

[@riseordiecrying2451]

Thank you for this. I just picked up a i9-12900k, 32gb g.skill ripjaw, asus z790-v prime. I was on the fence of which gpu to buy while I save up for a high-end card.

[@DoomXYZ981]

I got a 5600x in an Amazon deal for less than the regular 5600 that’s why I chose it

[@johnasosajr]

I’m considering going r5 7600 and 7800xt and then next year considering going to the x3d the next year and build another set up for my kids

[@ScatterVolt]

Nice

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Nice. Am finding the 7800XT experience solid 1440P.

[@kharmic21]

7500f is a beast I came from 4470k after almost 10 years of not upgrading I hope this lasts

[@alexholmstrom7968]

Where did you buy the 5 7500f?

[@jarradocallaghan2431]

Wait so, are cores everything? Or does single threaded performance does? Please reply, I need to know.

[@zulithern]

Hey Scatter, there's a new AM4 Ryzen 7 5700X3D released after a month prior the video have uploaded. Would you rank "5700X3D" into which tier? " (Edited on 25 March)

[@ruelreyes8410]

Thanks a lot, makes me feel good about my choices! You deserve a likes and subs!

[@jake_with_the_BIG_snake]

Havent upgraded in 7 years.These rankings are gold 🎉

[@BREEZYM6015]

What CPU do you have?

[@jake_with_the_BIG_snake]

@@BREEZYM6015 i7 6700 skylake and a 1070 ti. Dont really play anything other than wow/cs so still works ok

[@iHCSx]

@@jake_with_the_BIG_snake I have an i5 9400F w/ 1060 3gb and I can play most games I play just fine. So the 4060ti is perfect for me.

[@ArouzedLamp]

Dont forget, you *could* get a 12 core 5900x for cheaper than the 5800x3d and disable four cores and OC it substantially higher to have far better performance than an 8 core 5700x. Also the bigger cache helps

[@jeffrey1296-rl1mi]

Can I do this on 7900x3D

[@YuuriPenas]

Thank you! I was considering the 14700F but you made me reconsider. At least there's still one more generation for upgrades on the AMD socket if I go with 7800x3d.

[@ScatterVolt]

Precisely! Two more generations at minimum

[@tamaslichtenberger8529]

+4 E-Cores on the 14700K/F compared to 13700K/F. this is the only one in the "Refresh" which got additional cores, and also +100Mhz on all P and E cores compared to 13700K/F. honestly, to me it's much better than to place into "waste of sand" category.

[@ScatterVolt]

D tier then

[@rozzbourn3653]

@@ScatterVolt it performs the same as the 13900k for $150 less. its at least B tier, but i would place it in A tier.

[@FutilenessOG]

Bre

[@cademckenna863]

the +4 E cores don't really do anything for gaming and not much in productivity applications either

[@roarbahamut9866]

I feel like ScatterVolt is a AMD meat rider lol. The 14700k outperformes most CPUs on the market.

[@ragna447]

Just bought 7500f to pair with 6700xt 😊.

[@felipebr3519]

In my country the cheapest 5600x is going for 50 dollars more than a 5600. Charging that much for essentially a factory overclock is crazy.

[@SupernaturalDramedy]

The main takeaway I got from this video: "Cores aren't everything, it comes down to single threaded performance." 😉

[@ChucklesMcChuckleson]

Solid rankings considering the current prices of the CPUs and their relative gaming exclusive performance.

[@itsehsanh]

I just got my first ever gaming PC a few weeks ago and went with the 7800x3d as most reviews say its the best out there. I am really happy with my PC build

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What are your specs?

[@3katd]

💀

[@itsehsanh]

I have a 7800x3d with a 7800xt. 2tb ssd, 32gb ddr5 ram, playing games at 1440p and everytrhign feels smooth@@MrAnimescrazy

[@BREEZYM6015]

Did you get a prebuilt or build it yourself?

[@itsehsanh]

Prebuilt! first gaming pc. next one I will build myself@@BREEZYM6015

[@Reaktron88]

This is only for gaming, but what if you want to be able to do some video editing or streaming of your gaming? What cpu is good for that, but also isn’t unescesarily expensive?

[@Westside420]

Ya got any link to the tierlist?

[@romangregor4552]

this is the first video i see from you and must say the audio is really good but a tiny bit too much bass in the voice but this i can fix with a equilizer at linux :D

[@UncannySense]

i'm actually excited to see the gaming performance of the 8700G and 8600G, hopefully make the current sub $100 GPU market obsolete.

[@LorePlay-hd6un]

im thinking of getting a rx660 asus dual v2 with an intel i5 12600k but idk if i should the intel i5 or the ryzen 7800x3d because i was searching for a cheap build. What do you think?

[@adisplayz4080]

@scattervolt Should I get 7600x for $1400 PC build? I can take 7700x but then I will have to go with a low end Mobo.

[@Nopecvtgaya]

Hello mr😅 love your vids .. I was wondering if you could make a similar video but for GPUs somewhen.. love from Greece my friend❤

[@ScatterVolt]

We'll see how well this one does haha

[@navanithkrishnan7177]

@@ScatterVolt dude is it bad to get 5600g cause the 5600 is like 50 to 60 $ bucks more expensive here ( yes i do have an dedicated graphics card rtx 3060 ti and the 5600g is the maximum i can go)

[@ZachYoungBlood]

@@navanithkrishnan7177 depends what you're upgrading from. No the 5600g isnt that much behind a 5600, same clock speed but half the L3 cache. If you already have a 3600 or something then I probably wouldnt even bother

[@navanithkrishnan7177]

@@ZachYoungBlood from an old pentium chip lol its practically an whole new computer

[@ScatterVolt]

5600G then

[@zukxxxx0]

The 5950x is pretty useful to me for my virtual machines and decent 1080p gaming just for a relaxation. It's a fine one I think I can still hold with the system. For the upgrade I am planning to get Threadripper lmao. Great content xD👌👍👍

[@ScatterVolt]

A threadripper upgrade would be insane! Thank you for the compliment!

[@zukxxxx0]

@@ScatterVolt Need more cores therefore looking for the previous generations to fullfilling the requirement lol

[@Psycomaru]

thank you so much for the review, im planning to buy 7800x3d after this, but i confuse with the motherboard, which one i should go? or can you make a motherboard tier list😂

[@ScatterVolt]

You can’t go wrong as long as you don’t cheap out

[@trgdyfps]

Remember...if all you do is game then go AMD, but if you want productivity performance as well go Intel (and certain AMD chips). - it's that easy. It's always been that easy. People just want to feel justified/validated with their choice of PC parts.

[@ScatterVolt]

Your second statement is especially true. I get a lot of post consumer validation comments under these videos to make they sure they bought “the right” whatever.

[@saricubra2867]

AMD is good for multithreading, terrible multitasking. Intel has better multitasking and worse multithreading.

[@holyvipers9814]

I wouldn't necessarily call the 5000G CPUs a waste of sand, they have a place, and no, it's not because of the iGPU, but because they are always slightly cheaper than the non-G counterparts, this is where the 5600G shines, it is cheaper than the 5600 yet not as stripped back as the 5500 (The stripped down 5600G) 5700G is not as great because it doesn't fall into low budget the same way, making the 10 ish pound difference in price not as important

[@carlosemiralonso7997]

On point. Many people favored 5600G for is the one that every pre-build lowbudget pc people would buy.

[@carlosalbertomunozgiron6089]

And if You pair the 5600g with a decent or good graphics card, You could have a solid combo

[@aightm8]

They have way less cache than the non G variants. The performance is much worse as a result. If you dont need the igpu they are a waste of sand

[@kiercollao9304]

For me the new 8000g series is not worth it especially the price... Might as well buy a dedicated gpu for that price.

[@holyvipers9814]

@@kiercollao9304 that's a different price class tho, you can't compare a 5600g to a 8600g

[@krekmanski]

So my understanding for a good budget cad system cpu is very much on point with either 7500f, 7600 or 12600kf on ddr4 for best single core performance to price ratio. Great to know, thanks! Ps, 7500f here is 160 euros or so, 7600 is about 190 and 12600kf is about 210.

[@ScatterVolt]

Cad as in rendering? The more cores/threads the better for that, so for the money, maybe a 13600K/13500 might be worth looking into. Otherwise 7500f is it.

[@luckyzockt2063]

Thanks for confirming my choice on the 7500F

[@emilmartinka5442]

I got mine new 13900kf for a approximately 400$ and stock price in EU is about 600-630€ and i have to say … It’s a faking OG .. If i didnt get the good price I would choose 7800x3d .. but I got chance to get this beast and i dont regret.. its rude to say its waste of sand.. there will times that utilize that power in games in future so its future proof

[@rileyhill6957]

Was looking for someone that at least got the newest and best cpu for gaming and I as well got it brand new on a deal for 425 😂 it’s super powerful but also will last a long time

[@herbertwalter8693]

maybe in your case not a waste of sand, but certainly a waste of electricity

[@wo8795]

Fr i got i9 12900k and z690 for 350$ and it runs cs2 700+ and fortnite solo 400-650fps no drops below 350fps and then everyone says that r7 7800x3d better but in every benchmark the fps drops are crazy

[@gemini-sd420]

5600x is A tier

[@Zombie101]

picked up a 13100f for £79 - winning. amazing video btw, most useful on YT. thank you. audio is spot on too

[@ScatterVolt]

That’s epic!!

[@MadMangaming2821]

I disagree with some of the intel cpus, the 14700k is at least a c tier cpu. It is an upgrade, it has 4 more e cores, 0.1ghz more boost clock. The 13700kf in my opinion should be s tier. It os literately 12900k refreshed for cheaper and it is affordable. I feel like this is a bit biased to amd, cause these are just considering gaming, not really creativity tasks.

[@ScatterVolt]

LGA 1700 is a dead socket unfortunately so once you get those top tier Intel CPUs, then that's it. AM5 has a lot of room to grow though.

[@koldevil476]

But am5 socket in future can get new get chipsets for 8xxx and any way u need update mb if u want get max performance . And many game on intel work better coz not have stutters what u see on amd

[@alvaro_thecarenthusiast1238]

Great video, agreed in everything. Not sure if you know but in argentina (where i live) there is a huge crisis, a 5600 cost 220.000 And the 7500f its such a killer deal, you can get them for 140.000, and there is some weird cases where you can get a 4090 for 250.000 (250 dollars☠) Just a curiosity about my country, btw when i say 140000 i dont mean 140 i mean one hundred thousand and forty bucks

[@edsonguitar777]

That's a phenomenal list! For gaming, this is what you expect.

[@ScatterVolt]

For gaming exactly

[@IceeFanta]

would the list change at all if you were to do a mixed gaming/content creation tier list?

[@ScatterVolt]

Nope. You don’t need more than 6/8 cores for that.

[@HawkBryantVT]

Ryzem 7 7800x3D is my favorite gaming cpu on aftermarket 👍😄❤️

[@ScatterVolt]

Agreed

[@TheLongWind]

5800x3D is always the right answer for AM4 owners.

[@jaywin5373]

I got the i7 12709kf for around $200 during the Black Friday. The performance is great for multi-tasking and gaming when compared to the Ryzen 5 7600.

[@mhpross1234]

Nice video😊

[@UrBaNoOoTV]

i5-13400F is cheaper now. Deserve better ranking cuz have a great perfomance for the price.

[@ScatterVolt]

In the US? I’m seeing it sold for $185 which is better, but it needs to be $160 ideally. 12600K is still a better gaming CPU.

[@laxnatullou]

@@ScatterVolt In Indonesia the price gap between 13 and 14 gen is only around USD10 or less, so is it better to grab 14 gen instead? Also, between 14600K and 14700K which one is better for RTX 4080? The price of original RTX 4080 here is in between 4070 TiS and 4080 S..

[@johnhealy2001]

Great, both mine and my grandsons' CPU were in the waste of sand ha ha ,moving up in the world going for the AMD 7600 x of course with built-in graphics top video saved me a lot of time studying what was available for the price thanks great video

[@johnhealy2001]

By the way 70 years old thanks again

[@ScatterVolt]

I’m with my grandparents this weekend! I’m glad to see you’re still trying to stay up to date in the world of tech!

[@Matti6950]

I have 7950x3d, i bought it when 7800x3d was still 500€, so getting 8 (faster for normal use) cores extra for half price felt worth it. Also i did 8! years with i5 3570k, that made me think that for how much i use pc, that having backup cores is handy, i soon will also do heavy Davinci editing. This is the only cpu that felt 'complete' to me: Fast in games: check, fast in all-core workloads: check, efficient in both gaming and workloads: check, future proof, check, temperatures not crazy high 95° on 7950x and even more on 13900k sorry my cpu needs to last, this is not healthy even if it 'might not die' plus good efficiency fixes usually temps on it's own, so why have cpu like 13900KS? Good to see you agree'd, i think the 7950x3d is underrated, many recommend the 7950x or 13900k or 7800x3d over it, but all of these cpus (except maybe 7800x3d) have downsides, the 7800x3d is a tad (but less then you would think) slow in worloads, the 7950x3d smashes it all. As for expensive 3950x was 850€ dropped to 700€ only AFTer 5950x was launched then didnt drop further. 5950x was very expensive at first, 850>999> 825 (long time), then to strongly be discounted when 7000 series came, and now even further, but the 7950x3d is in the situation without a succeeding cpu out yet, if we consider x3d cache to be worth 100€ (see 5800x3d vs 5800x), then it's 599€, that is lowest price for a cpu yet... and with plenty advantages like newer node, now upgradable platform, i see all the 5800x3d hype, and you know what? I'm to late for that, if i bought 5000x it would be as 'new pc' thus non upgradable. Sad, so i wanted this whole hype advantage, so i had to get AM5, now my plan is to get 9950x3d if it ever gets massive discounted. And if not my current cpu rocks. Also ram was rumored to be more expensive and it is (+50€) while cpu (black friday only) was 120€ cheaper, that 70€ was worth it for 6 months i'm enjoying this insanely fast cpu. Getting Starfield for free also eased up the pain.

[@attieable]

In South Africa the 7500f can only be bought in pre builds and part of cpu/mem/motherboard combos. Two of the biggest resellers sell them and one of them with an exceptional reputation. I bought my 7500f this december and damn its good. Runs PBO with undervolt on cheap single tower 120mm fan cooler. Under stress it never breaks the 65 mark and keeps boost up ALL of the time. Mine is running super stable at -15 undervolt and didnt bother trying to go even lower with its great temps. So either i won the lottery or the silicon in these chips are very decent. oh yes also forgot to mention...this tested at 33 celcius ambiend summer temps.

[@apatel3888]

7800xt or 4070 which is best in both gaming and productivity.......

[@ScatterVolt]

Gaming = 7800XT Productivity = 4070 Whichever one you plan to do more of is the one you should get. Both do great and both.

[@SwingArmCity]

7800xt

[@Hamburg12345621]

hey I love your Videos, is it a good idea to combine i5-12600KF with a 5700 XT or is my CPU too strong for my GPU?

[@danielyue6855]

yeas

[@Hamburg12345621]

Really, nice thanks for your advice@@danielyue6855

[@herbertwalter8693]

your cpu can't be too strong. a gpu bottleneck just means headroom to upgrade

[@AdmiralWorldBroadcast]

My safe conclusion of what's oncoming in the January ultimate release is an AMD 8core 16thread 8700G APU which will be the same as a Ryzen 7 7700 with reduced L3 Cache and enhanced Integrated graphic chip clock. That's why the TDP will be pegged at 65w.

[@ScatterVolt]

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[@chirpy441]

Isn’t the G series of Ryzen 5 five good workstation laptops

[@Gaming-with-lin]

I have a ry 5 5600 and can carry a Rx6800 no sweat in 1440p and in the Nvidia side,fuck nvidia

[@zeekbrickett8095]

Thank you ever so much for your detailed technical CPU compare/contrast purchasing choices. I like the way inform us at certain price points that we should buy the upgraded CPU model. You're very insightful.

[@1BlueFunk]

x3d chips are just as much of a B or even C tier as your mother is a lady tips hat

[@kyronhayes7087]

Now that the 5700x3d is out, where would you rank it? Got one for $225

[@anemicroyalty8764]

What keyboards do you recommend in the $70-150 range for a $1,500 build?

[@ScatterVolt]

Not my area of expertise

[@anemicroyalty8764]

@@ScatterVoltNo worries.

[@drgduma1r]

hey! do you think 7500f gives best value considering b650 mobos are double the price of b550? running 5600(non-x) for now with rx 6800!

[@ScatterVolt]

Check my most recent KZbin community poll

[@BREEZYM6015]

Great video as always. I have an i7 8700k. Should I upgrade to a newer Intel chip, go the AMD route, or keep the 8700k and get a better GPU? I currently have a GTX 1060 6GB.

[@Blue-ev5ow]

The GPU is definitely your bottleneck for almost everything. I ran an i7 7700 with a GTX 1060 3gb, and upgraded to a 1080 later on. CPU technology advances far slower than GPU when it comes to effective performance, which is why even ten year old processors can still run modern games with decent performance- very few GPUs are capable of such a feat. If you want a bit more CPU performance, you can try a bit of overclocking with that chip anyway if you havent already. Only thing is, if you use your PC for a lot more than just gaming, you might start to feel the lack of cores on your performance. Currently I am switching my main desktop to a Ryzen 5 5600x that I got with a motherboard deal for just over $200, so you can still find some awesome options like that if you are willing to spend a bit more and make the switch.

[@chillapee]

Definitely the GPU, just a week ago I had an i5 6600k with RTX 3070 and I could play all the games that came out on high! And I play on 3440 x 1440 Ultrawight!

[@BrokenRotor486]

This is making me feel pretty good about my future build. Never built anything, still gaming on my 2013 i7 3060(?) laptop, but im gonna be getting the 7800x3d and the rx 7800xt . But im excited to get back into pc gaming.

[@ScatterVolt]

Awesome. Pick up helldivers 2 while you’re at it haha.

[@BrokenRotor486]

@@ScatterVolt I was thinking about it! I am really excited for stalker 2, helldivers 2 looks great, but I am super excited to not play war thunder at 11fps.

[@sayy3000]

Thanks alot, just ordered a ryzen 7 7800x3d after the video :)