THE BEST Z790 Motherboad 2024 😱👑

[@robertfarmer6316]

I swear I was half way through some tech video and saw Frame Chasers dropped a video…. I clicked off that shit so quick to watch actual helpful content…. Much love from Detroit !

[@gozutheDJ]

yeah man i can't watch GN any more, 5000 different testing metrics that are completely useless

[@SilkMilkJilk]

@@gozutheDJ did you see the new efficency per watt or whatever bullsht xD once channels get big, they go down hard

[@gozutheDJ]

@@SilkMilkJilk im honestly fine with it as an interesting metric the problem is people are brainwashed into prioritizing dumb shit like that

[@gozutheDJ]

i still don't understand why we can't have a nice budget friendly 2 dimm board that's not an ITX. either way you rock.

[@NoName-st6zc]

Because it would be a wasted opportunity for mainboard manufacturers to cash in hard on people this channel is build around : hardware ocds.

[@FrameChasers]

It’s because the mainstream see’s 2 dimms as a budget feature. “Where are my 4 slots”. Large tech reviews even say this in their reviews for budget boards.

[@spicynoodles307]

trueee i remember while selling my AMD trash i had b650m hdv and people were like "it's 2 dimm bro you should reduce the price because of that"@@FrameChasers

[@_kardus]

@@FrameChasers Have you got any reports of performance issues with larger memory A-die dimms?

[@frankwong9486]

Because two dimm 1DPC is good for overclock and they using that to charge lots 😂

[@crdrifts]

I just wanna say thank you, with your videos I got this mobo, and tcreate 6800 ram and pushed them to 7168 with a 13600k. And I’m sure they can go further. You’re the man!

[@valentin3186]

I already feel your motivation and energy boosted after meeting these many tech people at CES. Keep going man, tech youtube won't be the same

[@Hectorscarclub13]

I got the master x and got the exact same result, 8000 unstable but 7800 was just fine!

[@stevog893]

When had one before 14th gen, tREFI was bugged and couldn't be changed. Is this still the case? If so, the best 4 DIMM might go to the Nova for a better OC.

[@Tpecep]

​@@stevog893have you tried to change trefix9 timing? 1 trefix9 is 1024 trefi.

[@sniperksa5160]

does the master x crash on 8000 when playing ??

[@Jeredien]

The only problem with Gigabyte is no 8x 8x pcie slot bus width. If you need it you already know.

[@FrameChasers]

That could be a pro as well, because now you can use two slots and not take away lanes from the GPU

[@wolfmanDCS]

I'm so glad I came across your video today. I was just about to buy the ASUS Z790 Dark Hero on Amazon, you saved my pockets. I'm going over to your Discord Channel and your Website for now on. I'm not a computer guy but I want to get the best out DCS WORLD FLIGHT SIM.

[@brewing8094]

Good thing about Gigabyte they upgraded the revised Z790 Elite X Wifi7 with 8oz PCB over the older Elite AX which was 6oz. The other nice features you get a Bio's button on the side of the board with a USB Bio's port, (USB stick) for flashing that board before adding CPU and other components, great for the microcode update. Upgraded Audio codic with Wima caps. I think there no cut down lanes you get what it is. These boards have the new Bio's interface setup. The Elite X wifi7 supports bigger ram sticks, upgraded VRM Toolless components on PCB and re-enforced GPU slot. Theres a lot to like about the Gigabyte Elite X Wifi7 mid tier board

[@michaelthompson9798]

Leila 🐈video at the end for the W💪🥰👍! Thanks to for the supporters making these tests possible 👍💪!

[@xBINARYGODx]

The master x is 450, a price class (or two) below the Apex Encore, which actually more directly competes with a similarly priced Gigabyte Tachyon (also a 2 dim mobo with some things stripped out here or there).

[@lemoniadapolska1655]

what app is he using to test ram?

[@Greez1337]

Pretty cool. A decent way to get XMP bros in with less trepidation on if a decent value MB that can run their 7200 sticks...aside form the CPU, and if someone wants to learn to FAFO, there's some room there.

[@xBINARYGODx]

grab a 8000-rated kit that has a good 7200 profile, I say

[@redsnow846]

@6:26 Ive had a suspicion that the uneven cooling of the motherboard (back vs front) causes instability. If a contact frame makes that big a difference, think about what board flexing would cause, even at tiny scales.

[@kage860]

Great info. Just picked up an open box version for $186 on amazon. I'll sell my z790 tomahawk for not much less on ebay once I swap them out and start playing.

[@Tpecep]

I did same but bought new for 250$ and swaping my trash tomahawk that cant do 6800 🤮 on 14900k and 7400 kit

[@kage860]

I don't know if I got lucky but i'm running my tomahawk with 14900k (microcenter combo) @ 7200xmp. But then again, I only did prime 95 for a half hour stability testing.At 7400 I get an error after 5 minutes of prime95. @@Tpecep

[@kage860]

Well, I returned my aorus x and reinstalled my tomahawk. My aorus had trouble running 7000 while my tomahawk can run 7000 stable with tight timings.@@Tpecep

[@manuhack99]

Gigabyte = coil whine, in some cases quite extreme. I had top respect before for Gigabyte before, actually considdred them top dog, but had to return a x790 UD AX here in Germany. I will never buy Gigabyte. Asus as well, never ever. Asrock, maybe MSI, sticking with those currently. Cheers Great videos FrameChasers!

[@tannato4864]

hey my friend cheers from Brazil i love your channel. my english is broken but i can understand you cause you have good diction. Tip of advice, when you speak a bit slow and without slangs is so muhc easier to everyone out the to understand. God bless you

[@karhusoftware]

Based on telemetry from over 100,000 test runs, 99.99 % of errors detected with RAM Test show up within 24 hours. Less than 1 % chance of seeing errors after 6 hours.

[@Tpecep]

Why karhu is 10$? If only it costed like 5$ bro 😢 And how license on it works? If I do clean windows install etc?

[@karhusoftware]

@@Tpecep It's 50 % off now. For personal non-commercial use the license is simple: pay once, use forever. You can reinstall Windows and change parts.

[@kage860]

Der8auer has a video up with the $1300 extreme or whatever its called, he only gets 7800 stable as well.

[@koford]

Thought this was already talked about at CES regarding 8000 / 8200MHz and why the QVL list shows 8200 and most of us can't get it stable. The performance gain you get from this is marginally small, as was also discussed. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

[@Tpecep]

Its only for 1 stick in qvl. Watch better, 2 sticks are 7800 if not mistaken

[@robertlewis8608]

My only issue is Gigabyte has been cheaping out on resistors and capacitors since late 2019 to current, they still make a great product, but the amount of RMA"s on everything of theirs has been out of control with the cheap resistors and caps... Like the board is awesome but I would not want to trust it as my daily, I would rather have an APEX or Rog Strix Z790-E"yes I know 7200mhz cl34 is a given and 7400-7600mhz is the max then its all IMC luck past that on the E's still better than the Maximus hero/dark hero/Extreme and Formula best 4 dimm memory lead layout board asus has"

[@robertfarmer6316]

Brooo those frame chaser heat sinks on the ram are sexy af…. I’m guessing they actually work too?

[@Jolinator]

They are Bitspower heatsinks

[@robertvansteinshwaga]

Best intro in a long time

[@JaYgRiFfSTuBe]

Another banger great video Would it be safe to say Gigabyte Z790 AORUS PRO X could do atleast 7800 then ? it’s the white option from gigabyte.

[@Ben-ld1qi]

7800 is not safe to say at all per se. 7600 is. That is assuming you test ycruncher VT3, HCI MemTestPro, TM5 etc... and not only one app. If you're only relying on Karhu solely then 7800 os feasible.

[@adamshettle5391]

I wonder though which of the 4-DIMM boards performs best with all 4 slots populated? Purely a curiosity because you really need to have crazy ram capacity needs before that’s necessary with DDR5.

[@lovingpeace9715]

I'm running all 4 dimms with ddr5 5600 MHz but maxing @ 4800 MHz

[@FIVESTRZ]

Almost 30K brev!! Leggggooo

[@Bulzack]

XXX !!! I bought an AsRock Nova and It Rocks !!!! Thanks for the info !

[@Tpecep]

Nova is cool but this board is 250$

[@mateoharmiss5830]

This is cheaper and does 7800

[@Bulzack]

@@mateoharmiss5830 I bought my Asrock Nova at 312 euro. Now the price reached 400 euros. It selling a lot cause is a good mb.

[@young-j731]

Test that Asrock Mini itx that support ddr5 8000

[@FrameChasers]

I’ve tested every single itx board, those results are in the discord only

[@keylanoslokj1806]

Sir what motherboard do you recommend for i9 14900K processor?

[@DaRone1981]

Half tempted to send back my apex that just got delivered and get this and save 400 bucks.

[@xBINARYGODx]

if so, manybe get the pro X for about hundred more ($350) and at least have some nice features here or there. Go ghetto fabulous and not just ghetto kek

[@CubiCNooBiC]

RAM speed is not the only factor for MB quality?

[@paulomarf628]

I would say the best would be the Z790 Taichi, recently got one and was debating betwen Taichi and the Aorus Elite .... Very happy so far.

[@mateoharmiss5830]

So what are you able to get with it compare to this 7800

[@c5kev]

I'm planning to order this board for a new build (Hyte Y70 and I9-14900K on it's way) with 32G G.Skill Trident DDR5-8000. Since 8000 seems iffy at best, does one select the same clock speed / voltage for 7800 in the XMP Booster settings? I'm seriously lacking knowledge in this department, so anyone's two cents is appreciated!

[@korser1328]

those ram heatsinks..😍

[@Supra__24]

Do you know where I can get it?

[@korser1328]

I'm sure he'll announce it on his channel when they're ready so subscribe to get the notification!@@Supra__24

[@TheArcticDen]

they are bitspower ddr5 ram covers @@Supra__24

[@marktackman2886]

Refreshed boards are one of my favorite things to follow, thank you!

[@JFrameMan]

What's the maximum we can get stable with 192GBs and what motherboard and kits are great for that?

[@jdp_man1924]

Im curious of this as well. I'm more of a workstation guy than a gamer but I like speed and memory capacity.

[@JFrameMan]

@@LiveType That's great, thanks for sharing. I'm looking at buying the team group 6800 ones myself, but if I buy this generation, it looks like I'll be disappointed even if I limit it to 96GBs. Just going by a comment I saw on pcpartpicker, someone couldn't even get 6800 MHz to work.

[@revio000]

@framechasers would you recommend z790 apex silver at this point? At a goodish price? Or go for this board

[@walterrankin200]

I run 8K MT on my ASUS ROG STRIX X670E, 7950 x3d, MSI rtx 4090 SUPRIM, with G.Skill 24GB all day no problem. Memory restore off boots quickly.

[@ChrisAzure]

I got a similar board (B650 Aorus Elite AX) for $30, and definitely, when I get the chance, I'll catch this mobo too, hopefully soon, to move my primary system to Intel.

[@jaswanth27_90]

I watched the intro 20 times now !!😂😂

[@angrytuareg]

WILL THIS BOARD SUPPORT (2x16GB) 7800MHz PC5-62400 CL38 A-DIE PAPERWORK SAY 7600 MAX ?

[@machete2853]

The king is apex!

[@SAVA47-00]

What if you use the 48g mb sticks on this mb

[@1hqpstol]

Is DDR5 A-Die similar to DDR4 B-die in that I just want to grab the cheapest (affiliate linked) T-Force Delta kit and they can all be tuned up to 7800 (with enough FAFO/patience) or is it better to grab the 7800/8000 and start from there?

[@FrameChasers]

The 7200’s I link on my website are the same bin as 8000’s, it’s similar to Bdie yes

[@taiiat0]

i'm even kinda okay with them claiming 8266 if you can say it's "almost stable" at 8000. i'd have preferred the claim to be 8000, but the acceptable level is very close to the claim (i am pretending they claimed 8200 rather than 8266 but w/e). usually the actual result is nowhere near the claim, ergo i think it's worth some points when the actual result is able to be pretty close to the claim.

[@CrazyCranker]

I've been getting good results with the TGroup-TCreate memory kit you recommended on a refresh MSI Tomahawk motherboard. I still have a lot of testing to do but so far so good! :)

[@Ben-ld1qi]

My non refresh Tomahawk does 7400 but that's only on a few beta bios versions. On the latest official bios it's a wash, one reboot fully stable and the next one it isn't. I'm very curious about the refresh board, I'd be guess it can do 7600/7800.

[@Detroittruckdoctor55]

So what mobo should i buy for that new i9 fireball i should never bought

[@psyber84]

Does it have coil whine? And the one in the affiliate link is not the one in the video.

[@christopherrobinson1239]

please do a vid on the whole igpu/quicksink thing please. so confusing. so if i want a motherboard for gaming/streaming and video editing it has to igpu something or another?. lol. what board is that then?, what cant i get?. my heads gone!.

[@iherrera911]

curiously HWinfo also counts the seconds 2 by 2 in this review. (happens to a friend with a new apex encore).

[@massoudwazir6389]

Which one is the best Asus rog strix z790 e wifi 2 or gigabyte aorus z790 Elite X wifi 7 ?

[@saitamamako7949]

Stay away from ASUS. Gamer Nexus recent vid on rog ally proves it and do yourself a favor and not buy ASUS products.

[@novacombatarts]

I have the aurous extreme z790 and it crashes all the time. Im replacing it :/

[@tdub77]

Are those advertised clocks only with one dimm?

[@BlazinbLublur]

Have Questions about asus z790 prime a wifi have 7200 ram but keep crashes need help what might what the timing be

[@lovingpeace9715]

So this is quad with only to sticks of ram. In other words you are not using all 4 slots?

[@sniperksa5160]

Thanks for the video is Z790 AORUS MASTER X can do 8000 xmp or 7800 xmp

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

How does this board compare to Aorus Pro X w wifi7?

[@gildfps]

All of the z790 gigabyte refresh boards (any that have the “X” in the name) will perform the exact same in terms of memory overclocking

[@KillingTheMost]

how many Xs was that? i counted like 6

[@zerzes]

Nice video. Will look go for thus mobo

[@tannato4864]

hey my friend cheers from Brazil i love your channel. my english is broken but i can understand you cause you have good diction. Tip of advice, when you speak a bit slow and without slangs is so muhc easier to everyone out the to understand. God bless you Im about to put together a 14700kf + rtx 4070 + asrock nova wifi z790. But im in doubt about the ryzen 78003d. ppl keep me telling its better. but i dont know about the 1% lows. can you please give some advice on this.

[@haka5917]

Nice atleast a normal pricing board :D does it also have an ai oc like you talked about with the guy from asus about? will you do a video with the ai oc of an asus board? would be very interesting

[@BossOGx]

keep calling out the BS ill keep watching

[@szabolcscsepregi2507]

This is by no means the best motherboard in 2024, the best ones are the Asus Rog Maximus Z790 Hero / Dark Hero. And this is followed by the Asus Rog Strix Z790 e gaming wifi ii Gigabyte is a mid-range motherboard 😃

[@bigcazza5260]

check out the msi m power 2 dimm 199usd just announced

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

Would a 12900 K be OK for a 3090 TI I’m running a 5800X at the moment which is holding me back. I have my other 5800 3-D which needs to be sold and I have a good motherboard for that so it would basically be a trade because I’d get the same money for both

[@micb3rd]

Yes a 12900K with decent memory will completely utilise a 3090 Ti, a 12900K will even push a 4090 to the max in almost all game titles.

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

@@micb3rd appreciated, I think the DDR4 is really holding that card back. Not that I’m pushing it hard but simply changing back to the 5800X and doing minor bios tweaks the 3090 Ti boosts a bit higher now cause of the higher clock speed on the CPU. With the 5800X3D who cares about the higher L3 cache when they handicapped it slowing down the clock speed with it never being able to hit the advertised 4.5Ghz boost without doing a -30 in PBO even with it running at 50-55c. Dunno how AMD thinks they had the best gaming cpu when the most important part is single core performance on a “gaming cpu”

[@yosixxx]

I got it for my brothers build and it passed 7600 karhu and ycruncher vt3 without fafo. Just set 1.4 on q and imc.

[@Tpecep]

Bought this board, cant do 7400 xmp with 14900, VST error in 5 sec. Sad

[@overgaard1337]

Is that 14900 non-K? Board itself got 8 layers pcb and fixed topology, capable of doing 2x16 A-die at 7200 ball park

[@Feyenoord010Rotterdam]

Ok people i don't know anything about PC's but im gonna build a monster PC (with help). Now i know im gonna get a 4090 from Asus and Intel i7 BUT im stuck at choosing an motherboard Z790 ATX. First i wanted the Asus Dark Hero because everyone was saying its the best on the market and it looks crazy but now i hear that there are alot of unhappy customers and even that the motherboard going up in flames. I want to play the heaviest games on the highest settings without troubles which motherboard do you guys recommend??? Again i don't know nothing about it im a console gamer.

[@FrameChasers]

Join the discord if you have questions

[@Supra__24]

Can someone send me the link of those ram heatsinks pls!!!! 😊

[@SplicEPubG]

Hello @FrameChasers. How about the Asus Strix Z790-E Gaming? Did you tried that motherboard? What's your opinion about it? Thank you!

[@KatieBrandenstein]

amazing. great content. very impressed. gigabyte really pulled a rabbit out of their ass cheeks with this one. up until now i thought asrock was going to keep the crown for the 4 dimms but gigabyte really has the knockout blow with this one, the killer being only $249. 249 and you get 7800 as long as you have decent IMC, what a steal. Jufes always finds the Gems that render the rest of the market obsolete. i remember when he proved a 13600k with some good DDR4 B-die rendered the entire AM5 platform obsolete. crazy

[@tuncaycalan1125]

Jufes does thi mobo 7800 mhz with xmp enabled and no custom voltages? Or did you adjust voltage self to get 7800 stable?? Can i buy this thing set it to 7800mhz xmp enabled and ready to go?

[@FrameChasers]

Custom voltages, get 7200 in the description for XMP

[@tuncaycalan1125]

@@FrameChasersthank you my man. Is it possible to get the custom voltages in the discord? 🤔

[@FrameChasers]

It’s different for every CPU / Board my man, you have to tune it. I only help people in the $100 tier in my discord with voltages. It takes too long to validate to help everyone

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

@@FrameChasers if your interested in growing the channel and getting more customers then just a suggestion: Make a video sharing your settings on something that’s 4-5 years old so people can then set their stuff and see real results. Validates your credibility and competence by throwing a bone to the community once in a while. Not saying to give your hard work away for free but one video like I suggested may get you 20-30 paying customers since they can see that you’re legit. With all the scammers out there I think it would help out quite a bit but of course some other clown will take that tune and call it their own. Think of it as a free sample but again it’s your gig, just trying to help.

[@FrameChasers]

Do you have a channel more successful than mine?

[@Multimeter1]

I cannot trust gigabyte as a company after blaming customers for cracked GPU, blowing up PSU and crappy monitors from them. Sorry, but they lost my respect as a company even if they are able to beat APEX boards in 2 years from now

[@disclaimer4211]

And they still haven't apologized for it as far as I know

[@harrywilson7980]

Aorus isn't gigabyte aorus warranty is excellent in my experience

[@Multimeter1]

@@harrywilson7980it is…. I don’t trust them 1 bit even if they are not labeled (same brand)

[@FrameChasers]

Our rule around here is all vendors will screw you over equally, assume you never have a warranty passed your return period after purchase

[@Multimeter1]

@@FrameChasersyeah, but still. I wouldn’t be surprised if their cheap selection of PCB or cheap quality I’ve observed over the years is on this board too

[@assaf3468]

Hey why don't you check the “z790 aorus master x”?

[@FrameChasers]

Who’s going to pay for it

[@rcortez5979]

​@@FrameChasershell yeah baby, made his mouth shut up 🔥🔥

[@jstathellis]

Gigabyte boards are always surprising. It's what's their best at. I like how he's always surprised about Gigabyte boards. If you forget gpus and psus gigabyte is a greater board supply.

[@AlexandruCaragea-gf1kz]

The Elite Pro features

[@AlexandruCaragea-gf1kz]

The Elite Pro Dark Extreme

[@omarfouda1994]

Wait a sec, we dont review 4 dimm motherboards for max 4 dimm stability?😅

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

When is quad channel becoming mainstream???

[@abzaman77]

Daymn! This cheapo gigabyte even has a vr vout sensor built it. It already has a seal of approval from bz, I really wish it had a post code. Still a perfect mobo though.

[@Tpecep]

Jufes bro it says single stick of ram they run on 8266 look better :)

[@Nore_258]

cute kitty

[@Polyh3dron]

When will these companies realize that naming something Nova is not great for the Spanish-speaking market since it means “no go”.

[@bborb]

gigglebyte

[@jaswanth27_90]

guyyyyys pleeasseee someone explain what is fafo 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@FIN4L_BOSS]

F*** around and find out

[@240rahul]

Amazing valuable content as always!

[@alialbeloshi5425]

Any news about evga z790 kingpin bios update 😢

[@FrameChasers]

I told everyone to get rid of their EVGA products more than a year ago

[@alialbeloshi5425]

@@FrameChasers omg , so what should i do , evga not released any bios updates for intel 14th 🥹🥹

[@EzBreezy750]

I’m here for algo fuel and cats 🐈

[@hamslice839]

I love you ❤

[@chriskaradimos9394]

great video

[@str8chillaxin]

Big W for Gigabyte

[@Atlan_tis]

lol that means you probably going to try to push it higher then 8200 😁

[@thaNZdon]

My man

[@user-vsmsdos]

Meanwhile, my 14900K and z790 apex encore cant post XMP on my 8000 mhz 48 gb gskill kit lol. Must have a shit MC

[@user-vsmsdos]

@@kramnull8962 Unfortunately, I don't even get XMP out of them with my CPU. I believe my limiting factor is how well my memory controller plays with stock XMP voltages. Porblem is (mine in particular) 4090 has really weird display issues after I have to CMOS reset and doesn't work with my monitor and I have to connect it to my old Sony Bravia to get display. Makes FAFO a pain in the ass.

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

You hear it in video that this particular CPU in the test can do 8200 on other setups.

[@skorpers]

Of course it's an Aorus Elite.

[@mimu9599]

didnt watch the video till now.....i am not a brand fanboy...BUT I never buy something else from Gigabyte......after tons of hardware they fucked me hard for the first RMA.....so hard........hard to believe / Everybody talks about Support of EK and Asus.......I swear, Gigabyte is the true devil.....have no time&money to sue them

[@peterberglund5695]

Frame Chasers: Yo from Sweden, love your content. Since im a noob though; The link in your description on the MB takes me to a Gigabyte Aorus Elite X Wifi7 not the X AX but maybe it’s more or less the same MB? (Maybe a bit retarded)

[@robertfarmer6316]

Okay third comment for the algorithms….. but this board surprised the F out of me!

[@tommypearson9260]

I get 7600 solid on a Strix-e wifi about to try team group 7800 see if I can get 8000 let you know if it happens

[@FrameChasers]

Validate with 24 hours of karhu

[@ItsBigEz]

​@@FrameChasersyour comment is funny after watching your video from CES of RAM overclocking

[@FrameChasers]

Do what you want, but that’s how we validate in our community

[@joshyddog2054]

Hell yeah

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

Good kitty