The Betrayal That Destroyed One of America’s Greatest Rock Bands

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@stevolene
@stevolene 25 күн бұрын
Grand Funk doesn’t exist without Mark Farner , I would not pay a dime to see them without
@jayyoung4055
@jayyoung4055 25 күн бұрын
Same here!
@semmcstevenson
@semmcstevenson 25 күн бұрын
Fact
@avlisk
@avlisk 25 күн бұрын
Bruce Kulick is a really cool guy, and it would have been a fun band if they hadn't called it Grand Funk. It's only GFR with Mark Farner.
@donkeyboy585
@donkeyboy585 25 күн бұрын
@@stevolene Absolutely not
@seamus2112ophelan
@seamus2112ophelan 25 күн бұрын
Same here!!!
@cheribee968
@cheribee968 25 күн бұрын
All eyes were on Mark Farner when GFR performed
@oneida41859
@oneida41859 25 күн бұрын
I’m from Michigan and Mark Farner is Grand Funk and is Michigan. He’s a hero of mine.
@montbob100
@montbob100 25 күн бұрын
I love Mark.I would never watch grand funk without him.Grand Fraud.Lol.
@jayyoung4055
@jayyoung4055 25 күн бұрын
No Farner No Funk. And another band: No Richrath, No Bruce Hall, I now think of them as RE-No Speedwagon.
@gwag8410
@gwag8410 25 күн бұрын
The very first album, I ever bought, was Grand Funk Railroad, double live… I was 12 years old, in 1972, and I got it at a garage sale in Arkansas. I wore it out, listening to it, and I’ve been a Mark Farner fan ever since… God bless you Mark.
@Grit489
@Grit489 25 күн бұрын
I learned to play drums to that album, I'm 66 and still drumming and gigging
@toddflowers8052
@toddflowers8052 24 күн бұрын
@@gwag8410 Same here !!! 😎👌🏻💯
@billyshane3804
@billyshane3804 25 күн бұрын
No Mark Farner - No Grand Funk Railroad E PLURIBUS FUNK
@KarlHalliday-q6j
@KarlHalliday-q6j 25 күн бұрын
John great interview with Mark.
@MDHeleniak
@MDHeleniak 25 күн бұрын
Mark Farner and his band put on a great show. Forget the skunks.
@terrygrady7683
@terrygrady7683 25 күн бұрын
One of the greats.
@astrosjer822
@astrosjer822 25 күн бұрын
What shocks me is that “Bad Time” is not in every set list by Farner for his solo shows. That is a must play in my book!
@BobDennison
@BobDennison 23 күн бұрын
yea friend
@dangroat4438
@dangroat4438 23 күн бұрын
Mark is what made Grand Funk such a great band. His guitar playing and singing gave the other two a way to delve into the groove and get it going to rock a crowd. Together they had a way of uniting a crowd to sing along with them, especially on "Closer To Home". I saw them back in 1991 and they were rocking it. It is a shame that they can't put all their differences aside and get back together again because I would bet that the three of them could still rock it.
@JoeZinger-rf4cv
@JoeZinger-rf4cv 25 күн бұрын
Legend. Lucky enough to catch Mark open for my favs BOC a couple years ago. Advantage Mark Farner. Legend.
@frankgenovese3700
@frankgenovese3700 24 күн бұрын
If you ever come around the Boston area, I’m coming to see you Mr. Farner.
@tonygaston4021
@tonygaston4021 25 күн бұрын
My best friend for life KWC loves & knows for sure it’s definitely not GFR without the great Mark Farner! 😮
@chevyvandweller2706
@chevyvandweller2706 25 күн бұрын
There is a fine line between ' Forgiveness & Letting Go'.
@rockerz57
@rockerz57 25 күн бұрын
Mark is the real deal....Donnie and his pet Mel are posers.
@LarryNiles-t1d
@LarryNiles-t1d 25 күн бұрын
Wrong, they were 2/3 of the band.......do the math Posers? No way.
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 24 күн бұрын
No, they're each a third of the sound. The problem is, Don screwed his friend to own it all, and Mel went along which make them greedy creeps.
@michaelmilazzo3720
@michaelmilazzo3720 25 күн бұрын
No FARNER No FUNK !
@jeffreyjacobs390
@jeffreyjacobs390 25 күн бұрын
GFR was the work and wisdom of Farner as front man ..... these little do-little-say-much back stabbers are shameful.
@timothypartin8460
@timothypartin8460 25 күн бұрын
Putting the music aside....for those 2 knuckleheads not wanting Mark and his wife to be their friends is insane...Mark...you are what good people want as a friend
@musiclover3205
@musiclover3205 25 күн бұрын
Mark Farner is Grand Funk.
@floydthebarber9956
@floydthebarber9956 25 күн бұрын
John ... I hope you read this. Next time you interview Farner ask him if he thinks Mark's embrace of Christianity or conservative politics was a factor in Don and Mel's screwing him over. I've never heard that question asked. TIA
@montbob100
@montbob100 24 күн бұрын
The just run it and hate that.They want devil worship.
@dennydude3737
@dennydude3737 22 күн бұрын
How can you not like Mark!? Always a fun interview! Just a absolute rock & roll legend. I love how he calls everyone brother. Lol.
@christophersanders5007
@christophersanders5007 24 күн бұрын
Grand Funk without Farner is like Steppenwolf without John Kay
@earlfriedman9132
@earlfriedman9132 25 күн бұрын
Mark Farner was Grand Funk !
@jordandickerson4069
@jordandickerson4069 25 күн бұрын
Mark could have pulled off Grand Funk Railroad with any decent Rhythm Section. It was all Mark's Talent.
@tommeredith7462
@tommeredith7462 25 күн бұрын
Drummer’s can be sneaky. Brewer lost all respect in my outlook Towards Grand Funk Railroad. Getting Mark to sign papers Was a trick bag. He really screwed Mark Farner over. Grand Funk upon Mark being removed immediately turned them into a mere Tribute band. And shame on Mel the bass player because he supported Brewer for eliminating Farner. Mark is positive and active giving remarkable performances. I hope Mark is earning more money than if he stayed with his original band.
@hudentdw2
@hudentdw2 25 күн бұрын
No Mark No Grand Funk period!
@avlisk
@avlisk 25 күн бұрын
There needs to be a category called "Official Tribute Band" for those bands with one or zero original members who own the band's name. Grand Funk, Foreigner, Eagles, Little River Band, Chicago, Lynyrd Skynyrd are all bands who would benefit from such a designation.
@dustylover100
@dustylover100 21 күн бұрын
Three Chicago originals still there.
@billlashure2008
@billlashure2008 24 күн бұрын
The songs--" In Need" and " Sin's A Good Man's Brother" come to mind--- Mark, we all believe you're the best.
@charlesivey100
@charlesivey100 25 күн бұрын
Mark wrote the music... Can we imagine the Beatles without one of John, Paul, George or Ringo? Same with GFR. Come on guys...
@johnnymac5228
@johnnymac5228 25 күн бұрын
These guys made millions and never ended up with anything.
@GarySwanson-c3c
@GarySwanson-c3c 15 күн бұрын
I've been a Grand Funk fan since there first album, high on a house.thanks
@THX-vb8yz
@THX-vb8yz 21 күн бұрын
I was living in Royal Oak, MI, a few years back, and every August, we have two things..... Dream Cruise and Arts, Eats and Beats. Grand Funk was playing and my wife and I were only a couple of blocks away. I couldn't wait (not knowing what had happened) and the guitarist wasn't Mark. I went back home.
@christophernaples1315
@christophernaples1315 25 күн бұрын
Wow ! Those other dudes would be shining shoes without Mr Farner
@davidmontgomery5047
@davidmontgomery5047 25 күн бұрын
Love Brother Mark .Foreigner was a Faceless band Even in Their Hey Day
@tpstrato2270
@tpstrato2270 24 күн бұрын
LOVE YOU MARK
@markkenific6587
@markkenific6587 23 күн бұрын
This man is the epitome of a rock star. He’s the man. He IS Grand Funk. Period. What Don and Mel did was disgusting.
@tmo7734
@tmo7734 25 күн бұрын
I agree with the comments. For example, today, I consider The Eagles a “brand,” not a band.
@Sprenklefish
@Sprenklefish 25 күн бұрын
It’s obvious something happened between those guys that none of them will ever talk about. We’ll probably never know what it was, and so, no reunion.
@donkeyboy585
@donkeyboy585 25 күн бұрын
The current lineup played a casino about 10 miles from me a few years ago… NOPE
@Blade247
@Blade247 25 күн бұрын
Years ago mel don along with the other alleged funk Railroad came into town. They do the county fair circuit. I was very disappointed.. mucho no bueno !
@funkfan1751
@funkfan1751 25 күн бұрын
John Brodin!! Mark Farner's new album is titles "Closer To MY Home" not just Closer To Home.
@Grit489
@Grit489 25 күн бұрын
How can we get it bro ?
@dogcowrph
@dogcowrph 25 күн бұрын
They have become a GF tribute band that plays the rib fest circuit.
@harveyharveyness8773
@harveyharveyness8773 25 күн бұрын
without Farner it's Grand "FAKE" Railroad
@chuckstenberg
@chuckstenberg 25 күн бұрын
....and some transparency about whether the performer will actually be singing live or miming at the concert to make an informed decision whether to purchase a concert ticket or not.
@sheddski2942
@sheddski2942 19 күн бұрын
i have one of those Backwards Clocks Don is holding in ON TIME it was Hanging in my parents Down celler Bar sinse 1969 i recently Took it to my house its old but still here i Wonder if Mark has the Original from the Album Shoot
@JackB-v2z
@JackB-v2z 23 күн бұрын
I saw Grand Funk with Mark Farmer , in the 90s . They looked good and sounded great . Exceeded All expectations ! I have no desire to see them with Bruce Cullac .
@RickDOnofrio-dl3su
@RickDOnofrio-dl3su 23 күн бұрын
No Mark No GFR 😮
@rickknuth2158
@rickknuth2158 24 күн бұрын
Went to see Mark and his band around one year ago and was very disappointed...no keys, no drums. Saw GFR a week later felt it was much better. Pretty much the same music but sounded much better with the keys and drums.
@motorcity7137
@motorcity7137 24 күн бұрын
Monster Magnet has a killer cover of “Sins a good man’s brother” on the Spine of God record
@rodneynorfolk9737
@rodneynorfolk9737 17 күн бұрын
thnx
@TELarkin61
@TELarkin61 25 күн бұрын
With much respect, I feel the same way about the current Kansas.
@DJBuglip
@DJBuglip 25 күн бұрын
If it was not you I saw them with, Oklahoma State Fair, 2014, then they fooled me with a guy who looked and sounded pretty much just like you man. But knowing what I know now, I have no desire to see them again until this is rectified.
@doccyclopz
@doccyclopz 25 күн бұрын
I feel this is the reason bands like Grand Funk & the Guess Who get passed over for the RRHOF. The imposters have dragged their respective band names through the mud beyond the point of no return. I think that any new band should split the Songwriting credits equally amongst all members like what the Doors did. I know it's not fair to the Fogarty's and Farner's of this World but I think it's the only way to keep bands together. IMHO
@sunking2001
@sunking2001 9 күн бұрын
I've seen GFR 3 times and Mark once with his own band. The first time was 1970 at Winterland Ballroom in S.F. The opening band that night was Bloodrock. Of course...GFR tore the roof off. Next time was Oakland Arena with Freddie King. Last time was reunion tour in 1998 at the San Mateo County Fairgrounds. GFR played better than I ever heard before. They were clean and very refined Don and Mel are now SCABS...ripping off fans under the name of GFR. They can go to hell! There is NO GFR without Mark...period!
@LoyalOpposition
@LoyalOpposition 23 күн бұрын
I wish the interviews were labeled with the date. Thanks
@chesterlayton3910
@chesterlayton3910 25 күн бұрын
I love Grand Funk. Its got to be the real deal. I saw you guys in 1972. My first concert. I was 12 years old. I WOULDN'T pay unless all 3 were together. Mark is a great singer, writer, performer and GUITAR PLAYER.
@kevinkline7242
@kevinkline7242 12 күн бұрын
Grand Funk is another band whose best album 'Were an American Band was produced by Todd Rundgren.
@TerryKrysinski
@TerryKrysinski 25 күн бұрын
The big difference with Foreigner is that they were a faceless band except for Gramm & Jones. And everyone knows what happened with Lou. But Kelly Hansen gave them new credability and the fans accepted him,hence their touring presence all these years. Most of the band as is has been there for a long time now. with Grand Funk--everyone knows it was Mark that was the main guy. Most fans know that but a few will still go see the band as is w/o him. Crazy as that is.. T
@joemanderino6234
@joemanderino6234 25 күн бұрын
Is Mark still being paid by the Grand Funk corporation since he is one third of the corporation?
@rmcq1999
@rmcq1999 25 күн бұрын
A childhood friend of mine was a sideman on Farner's American Band before the COVID. Not sure what happened, might have got back to it. Guy doesn't return calls.
@davidrice3337
@davidrice3337 25 күн бұрын
So what's your point
@maxherron1376
@maxherron1376 25 күн бұрын
Where can we get the new album?
@paullevine1813
@paullevine1813 24 күн бұрын
The new album without Mark can be found in the dumpster behind the record shop.
@dadduorp
@dadduorp 24 күн бұрын
War, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Santana (it wasn't just Carlos), Foreigner, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Little River Band, The Temptations, Lynyrd Skynyrd...the list is long.
@ShaneMcCrae
@ShaneMcCrae 25 күн бұрын
I’d pay serious coin to see GF. The real deal. I’d buy a ticket to see Mark because he’s got the voice and he’s an honourable man. As for what the other two are doing? I wouldn’t cross the street to see them if the tickets were free and they threw in cold beer.
@Tune-O-matic
@Tune-O-matic 23 күн бұрын
They are Grand de-funked Railroad without Mark..
@JohnnyLaps
@JohnnyLaps 25 күн бұрын
Mark is only telling one side of the story.He was very greedy and treated his bandmates like session men.This reminds me of the Deyoung/Styx debacle where Dennis was insufferable and now realizes it.
@annkopfer6713
@annkopfer6713 19 күн бұрын
First off Farner needs to let this go..76 years old still bitching about...cmon...2nd he needs to own up look at himself...hes not Grand Funk...3rd Farner's wifey LEISA gets involved with his business...very difficult to deal with 4th if GFR today isnt for you...go see his American Band...hardly.any new material is performed if at all
@MDM0915
@MDM0915 25 күн бұрын
Wikipedia generally has members and timelines for previous members. Not hard to follow Wikipedia’s. If that’s too complicated then then ticket buyer never was a big follower and gets the tribute band they deserve.
@suefields4254
@suefields4254 21 күн бұрын
Love love love Mark Farner. What is it with these bands , kicking out the leaders of the classic lineup band...Look at REO. Kevin is doing it to Bruce, and did it to Gary Richrath 35 years ago...Founding drummer Danny Seraphine got kicked out of Chicago after 23 years. Lead guitarist Roger Fisher FOUNDER of Heart got booted out. And these guys were the best of the best. Happens left and right. Who would even want to see Grand Funk without Mark Farner. . Oh yeah, Dennis De Young sort of kind of booted too over Mr. Roboto... Hypocritical present day band Styx play the song at their concerts all the time now..Good on Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman too for suing Gary Peterson and the fake Guess Who too...
@markcastillo2757
@markcastillo2757 25 күн бұрын
No Farner,no Grand Funk
@wolftracks9010
@wolftracks9010 18 күн бұрын
Bland Junk Failroad w/o Mark!!
@JohnLittle-ze7sp
@JohnLittle-ze7sp 25 күн бұрын
Farner made G.F R.R. the other two guys have used his work to make themselves rich
@adambower2677
@adambower2677 25 күн бұрын
There is no way net the so-called Grand Funk could be making the same amount of money they would make if mark reunited with them
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 25 күн бұрын
The Guess Who, there’s a band out there that doesn’t have one member. 😳
@BobDennison
@BobDennison 23 күн бұрын
burton cummings
@lawrencealberts898
@lawrencealberts898 11 күн бұрын
Part of the issue getting back together? Mel and Don have been touring with their own group for almost 25 years, the same with Mark and his group. So what happens to the other band members? Also, yes Mark did sing/write many of their hits. But Don sang on a lot of their biggest hits as well. As such, with 2 of the 3 original members, they are not a fake band. They are not cheaters. Also, we only hear Mark’s side of the story. Perhaps there is more to it. FYI - I am from the Flint area, and have seen every incarnation of GFR since 1965 or 66.
@philbrown1474
@philbrown1474 21 күн бұрын
GFR is going to be 30 mins away from my home in December. I’ve been offered free tickets to it twice. Turned it down. I saw them about 10 years ago. It was pretty bad. No Farner No Funk.
@milanuzelac9980
@milanuzelac9980 24 күн бұрын
It's the death of rock n roll when fools act like music is just a product to sell...
@slojo3898
@slojo3898 23 күн бұрын
They played my town recently ( a freebie at a car show) I took one look and left. No Mark No Funk PS….. Mel looked too thin. I hope he is not ill.
@dalemullins4562
@dalemullins4562 24 күн бұрын
Brewer we'll reap what he sows. Mark has the glory and Truth on his side and Mark can live with himself. But when Brewer has to answer for what he's done. It's not gonna be so pretty. His elevator is going to be going to the lower level parking garage.
@xpump876
@xpump876 25 күн бұрын
Grand Funk Railroad plays w/o Mark Farner - is that for real - if so WTF !!
@sgt524
@sgt524 25 күн бұрын
Shame on this Band
@Mike-qe3nq
@Mike-qe3nq 24 күн бұрын
If you have 1/3 of the corporation, you have the right to be in the band. Show up and play.
@markmahaney7348
@markmahaney7348 24 күн бұрын
Mark Farner is Grand Funk Railroad.Don Brewer Screwed him.
@patricklilly2520
@patricklilly2520 25 күн бұрын
It's not Grad Funk without Mark Farner. Sorry...
@mtradz
@mtradz 20 күн бұрын
Sad story, No Farner No Funk
@owlman1365
@owlman1365 23 күн бұрын
Grand Funk opened for Kid Rock a couple years ago. No Farner = great show .
@johnnystaccata
@johnnystaccata 25 күн бұрын
I haven't heard the other side, so I 'm not taking sides.
@thomasborger6548
@thomasborger6548 24 күн бұрын
Good point
@paullevine1813
@paullevine1813 24 күн бұрын
The story of what transpired is all over the net, read it & you'll see just how shitty they did mark over greed. Mark speaks the truth & it was more than obvious from the start of all that did happen. Farner does not need them.
@c.e.anderson558
@c.e.anderson558 13 күн бұрын
Went to LRB show the other night. One the guitr players joined in 2022. ONE guy who joined in 1980 was singer. The rest are from 2022 and on. Small venue . Sounded okay. Ther played the songs truly. But GFR without Mark is trash. They could sell out shea again with Mark. Btw. FINALLY Foreigner and Frampton got in RRHOF.
@davidlarned4315
@davidlarned4315 11 күн бұрын
It’s just not Grand Funk without all three…
@catfishcooler1566
@catfishcooler1566 14 күн бұрын
It's KARMA. Farner quit the band thinking the other guys couldn't go on without him. But finding someone who can sing & play Farner's parts was fairly easy. Bar bands cover Grand Funk material all the time. Brewer and Schacher realized that it was more profitable and easier to NOT put up with a Prima Donna who kept threatening to quit if he didn't get his way. So they vetoed letting him back in the band. The End.
@FrankMuchnok
@FrankMuchnok 3 күн бұрын
The rolling Stones without Jagger, Aerosmith without Steven Tyler, etc. Two back-up players with a cover-singer. Who would pay for that ?
@paullevine1813
@paullevine1813 24 күн бұрын
Mark is a class act & his former backstabbers should be ashamed doing to him as they did. GFR was Farner & he does not need them any longer plus other than Mel being aa great Bassist Brewer was never that good. Mel & Don screwed Mark so we will never see them play again & Farners so good he just doesn't need them.
@davidrice3337
@davidrice3337 25 күн бұрын
I can't believe those dudes are such tools - there has to be another side to the story - I can't imagine the guy who wrote the music , sang it and who was the principal musician isn't welcome into the fold - something had to happen
@shable1436
@shable1436 25 күн бұрын
I saw an interview of Don mention personal reasons, and marks ego
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 24 күн бұрын
The most disgraceful act of greed, duplicity and disrespect as ever been witnessed within a musical group. It's an insult to the legacy and to the fans. Mark is being kind comparing it to Foreigner. That's just a business deal where someone owns the name and the original members have no interest in it. Grand Funk is those three guys, mainly Mark, and Don stabbed him in the back so he could get a little bigger piece of the payday. Any self respecting fan should boycott that crap.
@hermonhill6253
@hermonhill6253 23 күн бұрын
No Farner. No Funk
@williammartin2880
@williammartin2880 21 күн бұрын
Maybe you shouldn't have quit the band.
@williamhiles7404
@williamhiles7404 25 күн бұрын
Farner, the mediocre guitarist who thought he was so great. Last time I heard a GFR song was on the radio......in the '70s. 😅😅😅😅 LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
@shable1436
@shable1436 25 күн бұрын
I think he's better than mediocre, but his personality has lots to do with why they wanted him out
@blueshawk5649
@blueshawk5649 15 күн бұрын
It's actually a joke when you see KZbin videos of the current "GFR"... for those guys to even try and pass themselves off as Grand Funk without Mark is an insult to the fans. Don and Mel should just stop trying to pass off Grand Fraud Railroad and do what's right for the fans...
@curtiswadestafford7532
@curtiswadestafford7532 22 күн бұрын
i for one will not go and see a grand fake railroad band with out the guy that wrote most all of the songs its a damn sam e some people are so selfish its in human
@LarryNiles-t1d
@LarryNiles-t1d 25 күн бұрын
Mark seems too extreme and Don, who is brilliant, got tired of it seems to be more reality than whatever he says.
@shable1436
@shable1436 25 күн бұрын
Don says that ego was a factor, because Mark would be late, and not show up for stuff, in short the term is called going Hollywood on them
@DavidThompson-j9d
@DavidThompson-j9d 23 күн бұрын
Mark’s got to be weary of talking about and reliving the whole Grand Funk debacle by now. Kind of like asking Paul McCartney 60 years on if he liked being in the Beatles. It’s tiresome.. sad but tiresome. Great bands come and go and GFR is no exception. Stuff happens.
@billmaxfield7831
@billmaxfield7831 22 күн бұрын
Quit whining!!
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