The Bible Is Pro-Choice

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Most anti-choicers claim obedience to the divinely inspired word of God, so let's review their performance by taking a look at what the Bible has to say about abortion. Extremely little, actually, but what it does say appears to be in direct contradiction to the anti-choice stance...
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@wedgewizard5429
@wedgewizard5429 6 жыл бұрын
"Thou shalt not kill." What about when it comes to the military though? *just crickets*
@Raz0rIG
@Raz0rIG 5 жыл бұрын
Murder is the term not kill. Murder is based on malicious intent. We have rights to self defense and that includes war that is justified.
@Raz0rIG
@Raz0rIG 4 жыл бұрын
@CurryCel#6930 That's not the point. I never claimed the iraq ware was justifiable. I'd have to do more research and see if it was. But the principle of wars having a just cause is still valid even if there are unjust wars. Having someone abuse their role doesn't mean the role itself is illegitimate. Like an abusive father doesn't make a father role illegitimate.
@cockroachv
@cockroachv 4 жыл бұрын
Im a Christian and I disagree with the nonsense killing in the military
@jummyjello9326
@jummyjello9326 3 жыл бұрын
It says murder
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhakxbduwlamrgejw37392 yes that’s literally what it is.
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
Luke 1:41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, Luke 1:15 For he will be great before the Lord. And he must not drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb. Luke 1:44 For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.
@CuteIcy
@CuteIcy Жыл бұрын
@@sciencesociety2919 What?
@CuteIcy
@CuteIcy Жыл бұрын
@@sciencesociety2919 the Bible does not justify these things, even if someone were to try to use those to justify it
@quakers200
@quakers200 Ай бұрын
Jesus was born of a virgin. We don't know about John . That in these cases these men were beyond special. It is problematic to apply this passage to all humanity. Frankly the bible is of two different opinions on pregnancy. You still have a right to an opinion just like we all do. Just don't claim it is biblical.
@Trekyhunter
@Trekyhunter 10 жыл бұрын
The reason there are so many different types of churches (Catholic, Methodus, Protestant, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist etc) is because they all actually read the bible and interpreted it slightly differently but I think a lot of people don't know and are forgetting why they discriminated themselves from others and broke apart in the first place. Just like people seem to be forgetting the reason for the separation of church and state and wright it off as no big deal.
@Ultimaton100
@Ultimaton100 10 жыл бұрын
This man is correct. As a lifelong Christian and American patriot I can say while nobody is pro-abortion, the pro-choice movement, something I support fully, is justified by Christianity. The miracles of modern science are not something religion forbids, and while abortion is regrettable, it is often the only solution to save the lives of dying pregnant women, and the protection of life is a value shared in many religions including Christianity. I do not consider abortion to be the murder of babies. Practicality and technicality dictates we define a life form as a baby once it is actually born. While I don't condemn pro-life supporters for their views, I do condemn the terrorist organizations who call themselves pro-life and commit the brutal attacks and murders upon abortion clinics and doctors. Abortion doctors, whether or not you agree with their work, are children of God too, and one cannot commit murder and still call themselves pro-life. God is not a being of hatred, he never condones murder no matter the victim. Anti-choice violence is just one of the many wrongdoings and even evils done by people in the name of Christianity I find to be horribly reprehensible. Others include anti-homosexual violence and bigotry, the persecution of Jews and Muslims, and so on. A true Christian knows God is a loving God, and Jesus taught us that. Hatred and violence have no place in Christianity.
@Ultimaton100
@Ultimaton100 9 жыл бұрын
Geoffroxx Abortion does not involve the killing of anyone or anything, however terrorists who attack innocent abortion doctors are the real ones against Christian teachings.
@Asher8328
@Asher8328 10 жыл бұрын
Let me see if I got this right: punch a pregnant woman, causing her to miscarry = fine. Eating shellfish = death penalty. Why are we listening to this book's rules again?
@madeline3116
@madeline3116 10 жыл бұрын
This was in the context of the old governments. Seriously. He is being a hypocrite because he is not using the context of the "pro-choice" verses.
@samwakan9380
@samwakan9380 7 жыл бұрын
Asher8328 not true.
@sethfahrig8871
@sethfahrig8871 7 жыл бұрын
Btw the wars were to the wicked and the type of people who tortured and killed people for fun and the ones that mock god on his turf.
@_gene
@_gene 6 жыл бұрын
Asher8328 you’re mixing the Old Testament with the New Testament. Be careful, but I do understand what you are saying.
@doggoslayer5679
@doggoslayer5679 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry what? The bible doesn’t say eating shellfish gives you the death penalty
@PabloOlbapPablo
@PabloOlbapPablo 9 жыл бұрын
People need to understand that Pro-Choice =/= Pro-Death. I'm pro-choice not because I want abortion. In fact, if I was a girl I wouldn't do it. But being pro-choice doesn't mean you are for abortion. It's not about that. It's about allowing people to do what they wish with their body safely and without judgement. Nobody like abortion, that's just stupid.
@menolastnameneeded1023
@menolastnameneeded1023 8 жыл бұрын
exactly im a christian and a republican and a man so ive never had to get one but if i was a girl and i was in the situation i would probably get one. if you dont like abortion dont get one but dont take away someones rights of an abirtion protected under the 9th amendment.
@TonyMishima92
@TonyMishima92 8 жыл бұрын
That doesn't make any sense. I agree that people should be free do whatever they want with their bodies. People should be able to anything that gives them happiness. BUT there is an exception. Someone's right of freedom should not impede on someone else's right to exist. If you are Pro-Choice, then you are Pro-Death. It's simply a fact of the situation. The right to do what you want with your body does not trump murder. If the woman doesn't want to get pregnant, then she should prevent it.
@PabloOlbapPablo
@PabloOlbapPablo 8 жыл бұрын
***** Pro-choice =/= Pro-Death. Just like Pro-Life =/= Anti-Women.
@sethfahrig8871
@sethfahrig8871 7 жыл бұрын
These were before the Ten Commandments and when they came out people had to repent of their sins with sacrifices then god sent his only son to die for everyone so you don't have to sacrifice sheep and all you have to do to repent is pray to Jesus and ask for forgiveness. &a commandment 7 you shall not commit adulatory,aka can't have sex with more that one woman,and commandment 10,you shall not covet your neighbors wife.
@Dettenwald
@Dettenwald 7 жыл бұрын
Except the scary thing is there are women who LIKE abortion. *But being pro-choice doesn't mean you are for abortion* This is just contradictory. If you support abortion, you're pro-choice. If you're against abortion, you're pro-life. You can't have it both ways. But tell me, why aren't you pro-abortion?
@josephjackson1956
@josephjackson1956 6 жыл бұрын
*READ THE BIBLE IN CONTEXT!!! DON'T TAKE A SENTENCE OUT OF CONTEXT BECAUSE THAT CAN BE MISCONSTRUED TO MEAN ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO MEAN!!!*
@shaye1955
@shaye1955 5 жыл бұрын
joseph jackson maybe you couldn’t take it out of context if it didn’t advocate for murder so often. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@LibertyNotLicense
@LibertyNotLicense 10 жыл бұрын
Without Holy Spirit men read but do not see, hear but do not understand. My Labrador is an excellent companion, but I don't ask him to expound upon Macbeth.
@carmelo1509
@carmelo1509 8 жыл бұрын
Minute 4:20. Let me further decode this. When you cause a woman to miscarry you pay a fine TO HER HUSBAND because you caused damage to HIS PROPERTY.
@TashWigley
@TashWigley 7 жыл бұрын
If I may be permitted a small, Carlin-inspired pun - holy shit. Yet more evidence that the Bible is pro-abortion as opposed to pro-choice, because "pro-choice" implies women having a say in something.
@ea-tr1jh
@ea-tr1jh 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you pay her though? Women didn't know how to dealwithmoney back in those days. Makes perfect sense to pay the husband.
@hellonwheels976
@hellonwheels976 Жыл бұрын
And that's also how God punished the Israelites destroying the unborn children
@Lordofthepoors
@Lordofthepoors 9 жыл бұрын
So Jeremiah was human and loved by God before he was born, but he is the only one? Was he an alien or something? I love logic, but this is not logical.
@bailujen8052
@bailujen8052 3 жыл бұрын
Pro choicers are aliens
@ifeelfine72
@ifeelfine72 Жыл бұрын
What does that passage have to do with abortion?
@Lordofthepoors
@Lordofthepoors Жыл бұрын
@@ifeelfine72 idk obviously nothing.
@quakers200
@quakers200 Ай бұрын
What happened to the spirit of god that was in all the inborn babies drowned in the flood or killed in cities god ordered destroyed. There are tens of thousands of miscarriages every day. The infant death rate just two hundred years ago was incredibly high. What of these so called acts of God that science, not prayer has reduced. If there is a god he has left the fate of infants up to us and washed his hands of the whole thing. I oppose abortion but am not telling some woman what to do. Instead let's all work to make childbirth something that is more of a joy and less a burden. We have turned out backs on many working women, depressed the minimum wage, let childbirth and childcare expenses become a huge burden.
@Commandosoap777
@Commandosoap777 Ай бұрын
@@ifeelfine72a point of saying you’re a human upon conception
@dzivri
@dzivri 8 жыл бұрын
Look man. I like what you stand for, I'm for secularism, I'm an atheist. BUT, when you decide to use a passage from the bible - like the one from Exodus - to make a point, you can't skip the verse that follows. It very clearly (not at all vaguely) states " if any mischief follow, then thou shall give life for life." Just sayin. It's a rule of thumb in persuasive speech that, not presenting the point of view of those who oppose your view hurts your credibility. You can then find a way to acknowledge it, refute it, reject it. Omitting something so significant makes you no better than Bill O'Reilly.
@lollercopter1000
@lollercopter1000 7 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the secularism and atheist front. A point to be made though is that in the king james translations this is a not very clear point. At first I to thought exactly what you typed out. However more modern translations make it clear that these verse's indicate a miscarriage happening and that the following "mischief" in question is regarding the wife's health and well-being.
@salenebrom6476
@salenebrom6476 5 жыл бұрын
dzivri mischief followed referring to damage to the mother
@matthew8720
@matthew8720 5 жыл бұрын
@@salenebrom6476 No. You are wrong. If the child comes out unharmed they were fined and if the child was killed or harmed the same would be done to the perp.
@howwrongwewere
@howwrongwewere 5 жыл бұрын
@@matthew8720 y'know, what you're saying is so illogical it just might have been the bible's point!
@matthew8720
@matthew8720 5 жыл бұрын
@@howwrongwewere illogical as in you are pro-choice or illogical as in you think the Bible is pro-choice? People can be pro-choice, I just think it's silly to try to use a Bible to defend it. If what you are saying is that you think the Bible is pro-choice I can explain my last reply more thoroughly in defense of this false claim. It's just not. I don't get why people need the Bible to defend crap they do. The Bible is pretty clear on God's view of a humans life. What he is saying even about those verses is just simply not truth. People will choose what they want. They don't need to take the Bible hostage. And also the Bible isn't a moral handbook. It's a story about us becoming human again the way it was intended in the beginning.☺️
@rachaelrichman-harris1956
@rachaelrichman-harris1956 8 жыл бұрын
why are christians always so suprised that non believers dont hold steadfast to the words of the bible.... "how can you deny blah blah blah" its easy to deny if someone doesnt believe that the bible is "real".
@johannespaulusii1291
@johannespaulusii1291 7 жыл бұрын
rachael richman-harris you r stupid
@arcaneone
@arcaneone 10 жыл бұрын
@ 4:30 Not to endorse that ancient book of myths, The Bible, but you only read line 22 and missed line 23 from the Exodus 21 reading. *"But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,"* This is a bad example for the pro-choice argument.
@arcaneone
@arcaneone 10 жыл бұрын
***** Oh I see, the version I was reading (NIV) used "gives birth prematurely" instead of saying miscarriage. In those times a premature birth is most likely a miscarriage, unlike today with our medical advancements. So line 21 is a fine for striking a pregnant woman causing the miscarriage. Line 22 is for striking the pregnant woman and killing HER. Thanks for the clarification.
@KenneyPedersen
@KenneyPedersen 10 жыл бұрын
And none if that applies to Christians, since Christians are to follow the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, not the old. When Jesus died he fullfilled the Law (Torah) and it became obsolote - that's how Christianity started. It was the separation from the Old Testament to the New testament.
@arcaneone
@arcaneone 10 жыл бұрын
Kenney Pedersen Jesus abolished the Old Testament except for the 10 Commandments, Original Sin, Noah, and Leviticus (only the parts about homosexuality). Using Jesus to abolish the ugly parts of the Bible is an excuse used to cherrypick the Old Testament. Anyone would expect a perfect god to get it right the first time and not need any revisions to his only and most important book.
@KenneyPedersen
@KenneyPedersen 10 жыл бұрын
You can believe in the Old Testament all you want, but it isn't Christianity, but Judaism. The whole point of Jesus was to establish a new Testament and "abolish" the old one. It makes everything obsolete. If "a perfect God" should get it right the first time, then God wouldn't be perfect. Everything around us is dynamic and religion has to be so aswell. Humans have a different way of thinking than back then and our morals and capabilities have changed. This is why religion has to change and adapt - because humans change and adapt. The 10 commandments are obsolete because our human consciousness is enough.
@arcaneone
@arcaneone 10 жыл бұрын
Kenney Pedersen "Everything around us is dynamic and religion has to be so aswell." "This is why religion has to change and adapt - because humans change and adapt." In 2000 years the Bible has not changed a single letter. I suppose every time God needs a rewrite He will have to send Jesus down to be tortured and killed. Doesn't seem like a dynamic or effective way to update God's perfect book. At the very least they should sell Christian Bibles which do not include the Old Testament, yet curiously they do not. "The 10 commandments are obsolete because our human consciousness is enough." Most Christians would disagree with you on that one. Guess God should have been more clear as to which parts of the Bible were abolished instead of leaving up for interpretation. As much as I would love to use logic to talk about this issue it reminds me of a very accurate quote... "Rational arguments don't work on religious people. Otherwise there would be no religious people."-Gregory House
@carolarens9793
@carolarens9793 6 жыл бұрын
As a Pro-Life Catholic Christian I am one of many who have spent their entire adult lives supporting Crisis Pregnancy Centers and Maternity Homes for young unwed Moms and Dads and their pre-born children. These Centers Provide many alternatives to abortion, such as Open Adoption, Semi Open Adoption, and Closed Adoption, the also parenting classes for young unwed Moms who choose single parenting, also they help pregnant women who find themselves in a domestic violence situation to be able to find another place to live, I know because when I was in my early twenties my Mom, my Sister, and I worked with one of these Centers in securing a home for a woman who was pregnant with her second child and was seeking to get away from her abusive husband. Also the parts of the Gospel in which, Jesus says, "What so ever you do to the least of these my brothers and sisters, that you do onto Me." Have aways been very dear to my heart, and is the driving force for why I am so supportive of the Ministry of Crisis Pregnancy Centers and Maternity Homes.
@carnivalwholesale9809
@carnivalwholesale9809 Жыл бұрын
You are an idiot for staying Catholic all this time
@Manmodor007
@Manmodor007 5 жыл бұрын
this guy's ability to understand written word is that of a middle school dropout. in regards to exodus text: the Hebrew wording used is a combination of a Hebrew noun, yeled, and a verb, yasa, and literally means "the child comes forth." makes no mention of a miscarriage, only that the child comes out (the strike induces labor). In modern Western society, a man accidentally hits a woman in labor while fighting another man, he would likely face the same punishment. the text makes no mention of intentionally hitting the woman, nor death of child. again text makes no reference to the death of the child. so you all can read "And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that the child comes forth, yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life...."
@bruceneu8588
@bruceneu8588 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out.
@MandyDollofDollLand
@MandyDollofDollLand 10 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian, but I believe in the separation of church and state. It is not fair to impose your beliefs on others. If the majority of Americans were Muslim in office the lefts and rights would be screaming and crying.
@pop-upprayerwithpapaa8250
@pop-upprayerwithpapaa8250 Жыл бұрын
Yes - the Bible is pro-choice.
@CRoadwarrior
@CRoadwarrior Жыл бұрын
No, it is not. Only by misreading and distorting the Bible can one come to a "pro-choice" conclusion.
@lomarodriguez2826
@lomarodriguez2826 6 жыл бұрын
Thou shall not kill makes it pretty clear
@bruceneu8588
@bruceneu8588 5 жыл бұрын
Seems clear to me.
@chulosvanzzini6045
@chulosvanzzini6045 4 жыл бұрын
this is probably one of the most bullshit and out of context biblical explanations I've seen.
@rickmanhermandez5902
@rickmanhermandez5902 8 жыл бұрын
You sure do skip through the text to make it say what you want.
@bdawggification
@bdawggification 7 жыл бұрын
Rickman Hermandez Isn't that the christian thing to do?
@ea-tr1jh
@ea-tr1jh 4 жыл бұрын
@@bdawggification No. I've only seen atheists do it. Save a few misinformed Christians.
@bdawggification
@bdawggification 4 жыл бұрын
e546a 850 Then why are there so many denominations??? Certainly not because people have interpreted the text to fit what they want it to mean and skip through the parts they don’t want to acknowledge.
@bdawggification
@bdawggification 4 жыл бұрын
e546a 850 but I see you’re already convinced you know the “right” Christianity the others are “misinformed”
@nikkiestefania5464
@nikkiestefania5464 4 жыл бұрын
@@bdawggification some denominations are heresy I’ll say that, but most are separate from each other (while still being Christianity) bc of the disagreement to hold traditions & things like that. all denominations (w the exception of the heretics) hold the same essential values
@cbccraig
@cbccraig 5 жыл бұрын
I like how people who do not know the Bible at all try to pull verses out of context to attempt to prove a point. It is obvious you are not a student of the Bible. You are spiritually blind.
@eli_mattern
@eli_mattern 2 жыл бұрын
@@strangeroamer3219 i don’t think you realize why god killed people in the bible. every single time someone was slayed by god, it was because they were unholy, unworthy of god’s grace, and unworthy of life itself. god views faithful life as holy and pure. and he views non-faithful life as unholy and impure. if you’re going to claim the bible is pro abortion, you’re going to have to also claim that the bible is wrong for punishing evil people. which it’s not. stop taking context out of the bible to fir your political agenda. the bible is pro life. get over yourself
@xxan78xxan
@xxan78xxan 10 жыл бұрын
Good video, you pointed out extremely well how hypocritical O'Reilly and his anti choice followers are.
@delicheese6774
@delicheese6774 10 жыл бұрын
This guy is a bigger moron than O'Reilly (pretty hard to do) if he believes a word he is saying.
@bigbenhebdomadarius6252
@bigbenhebdomadarius6252 10 жыл бұрын
Deli Cheese Thank you for admitting that O'Reilly is a moron.
@delicheese6774
@delicheese6774 10 жыл бұрын
BigBen Hebdomadarius What's there to admit? anyone who watches the man for more than a minute can see that he is a vapid imbecile :p
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
xxan78xxan I think he used the Bible so he can sleep around and not feel guilty about killing an unborn child.
@theintelligentvoice97
@theintelligentvoice97 4 жыл бұрын
Would anyone like a debate. I’m offering a chance for any of you comment warriors to not hide behind a screen and talk about it. I’m pro life.
@sm6398
@sm6398 5 жыл бұрын
Answer to abortion is Adoption, no matter the circumstances of the pregnancy.. If u dnt want the baby, someone will. Period
@AP-yx9de
@AP-yx9de 5 жыл бұрын
So if it endangers the mother’s life? If it’s a disabled or brain dead baby? You said no matter the circumstances. What about rape?
@mattslowikowski3530
@mattslowikowski3530 8 жыл бұрын
Thou shall not kill?
@irishdc9523
@irishdc9523 8 жыл бұрын
Apparently, it only applies either from birth or from one month old
@oksaturn122
@oksaturn122 8 жыл бұрын
the bible commits mass genocide 'thou shall not kill' is bullshit
@FrankHarrison12
@FrankHarrison12 7 жыл бұрын
"kill" is the real problem. What does it mean to "kill"? Are you killing your baby if someone else performs the abortion? Are you killing the baby if you are purposefully or accidentally reckless during your pregnancy causing a miscarriage? Is it only murder to actively end something's life, or does allowing death through inaction count as well? It's a complicated subject, a gray area, one could say.. morals are relative... one could even say, there is no god.
@rockbeauty3439
@rockbeauty3439 6 жыл бұрын
East West South Slavs United Who build the ark when God flooded the earth killing everyone on earth except apparently 1 family... I wonder how they repopulated. 😀
@rockbeauty3439
@rockbeauty3439 6 жыл бұрын
East West South Slavs United 🤔🤔
@johnnydark6876
@johnnydark6876 10 жыл бұрын
Exodus 21:22-25 [fined if no injury] New International Version (NIV) 22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[a] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
@Brinominous
@Brinominous 10 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example of 2 Timothy 4:3-4. Perfect. However, feel free to twist the Word of God all you want. Truth is truth.
@Brinominous
@Brinominous 10 жыл бұрын
And that little piece in Exodus was nicely misquoted. A man was fined for assault that caused no harm. However, if harm was caused he paid life for life. But preach on.
@Brinominous
@Brinominous 10 жыл бұрын
AND... Numbers 5:16-31 isn't even about CONCEPTION - it is about adultery. Yes, it mentions conceiving children AFTER the woman is determined faithful. So that whole bit of selectively using scripture? Yeah, pot calling the kettle black.
@elagace03
@elagace03 4 жыл бұрын
The best is, God Breathes soul life once the baby leaves the womb.
@jummyjello9326
@jummyjello9326 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@revolutionunderground
@revolutionunderground 3 жыл бұрын
The word translated as "soul" and "breath", usually נפש
@elagace03
@elagace03 3 жыл бұрын
@FastFox Basel Qawasmi genesis 2:7
@elagace03
@elagace03 3 жыл бұрын
@FastFox Basel Qawasmi What that verse is explaining is that Adam wasn’t a man(even though he was already formed from the earth) until God breathed life into him. Meaning that even though God created the fetus in the womb, it does not become a human until God gives the baby it’s first breath once it’s born. Since you reverted to name calling I can tell that your most likely arrogant and you cant learn anything that threatens your ideology.
@elagace03
@elagace03 3 жыл бұрын
@FastFox Basel Qawasmi well you sure do have a leftists tendency to be combative when you see something you do like, instead of having a civil dialogue. The verses your talking about was written after Christ was born, so of course they would call our lord and savior “baby” in Luke.
@jummyjello9326
@jummyjello9326 3 жыл бұрын
The BIBLE says,,, You shall not murder. It also says,,, that that God hates the shed of inocent life or something like that. It aint pro choice😂 Silly people
@poisonpen4460
@poisonpen4460 3 жыл бұрын
except for that time he wiped out all life on earth in the Noah story and then killed all the first born sons in Egypt.
@jummyjello9326
@jummyjello9326 3 жыл бұрын
@@poisonpen4460 He wiped out all the earth because they were all wicked. And Hes God so He can kill every single one of us and it will be just, He is perfection and we are far from that. But He also keeps His promises and word:)
@TorontoMapleLeafs-yt2xv
@TorontoMapleLeafs-yt2xv Жыл бұрын
God's a hypocrite and a piece of sh*t
@Nathan8Lealiou
@Nathan8Lealiou 7 жыл бұрын
you can take verses and make it say whatever you want. you have to read the whole chapter.
@bailujen8052
@bailujen8052 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and people should read the whole chapaters od Ephesians 2 and James 2 before making wars
@deangood12
@deangood12 8 жыл бұрын
If all life is sacred so then a cockroaches life is just as important as a human life according to your arguement
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Goodhue it’s obvious to me you have a mind of a cockroach.
@rottnsoxsmith2264
@rottnsoxsmith2264 5 жыл бұрын
Luke 1:41 "And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost". The Bible recognized an unborn child as a baby. it also says that it has life, because IT LEAPED. Also, Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." Before we came out of the womb God sanctified us. And many other verses on babies in the womb. I.e, Psalms 139:13-14, Job 31:15, psalms 22:10. Exodus 21:22-25 "If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." The bible even says that if you hitting a pregnant woman causes harm you should be put to death. And giving birth prematurely does not always mean miscarrying. Even then, Jesus came to fulfill the old testament law, Matthew 5:17. He completed what it said so we didn't have to. Israel was in a much different culture, time, and situation than we are in right now. Also, Paul said that if you are a born again believer, then you are released from the old law, and can live a life trying to strive like Christ. Killing an unborn baby is wrong. God, the Bible, and Science back up pro-life.
@gkov1827
@gkov1827 10 жыл бұрын
you shall not kill
@202pie
@202pie 10 жыл бұрын
to paraphrase part of george carlins pro choice bit: "Conservatives care about you untill you're born then they don't give a shit about you."
@winged500
@winged500 10 жыл бұрын
and O'Reily is against helping the poor and their children
@tiffanyroldan4618
@tiffanyroldan4618 10 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah 1:6-8 6 Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child. 7 But the Lord said unto me, "Say not, 'I am a child': for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak. 8 Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the Lord. The value of a child to be born (having said that God chose Jeremiah before he was born) and is born are still there.
@bellagirl4878
@bellagirl4878 8 жыл бұрын
Oh please! He knows nothing about the bible He's so cynical...he's obviously trying to disprove that God is against abortion.
@Stark-dj6hb
@Stark-dj6hb 9 жыл бұрын
The bible contradicts itself, so people want to pick the parts they like.
@truthwillprevail1445
@truthwillprevail1445 8 жыл бұрын
This clown completely butchered the scriptures: Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live
@YY4Me133
@YY4Me133 10 жыл бұрын
According to the christian bible, not only does life begin with the first breath, there's no "soul" until the first breath: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7
@menolastnameneeded1023
@menolastnameneeded1023 8 жыл бұрын
exactly god is pro choice
@timelessboys978
@timelessboys978 6 жыл бұрын
That verse that you quoted is when God created Adam. The first human being. There was no biological mother for Adam. Adam was not born from a woman. You are using this verse to justify your interpretation of God's word that babies born from their biological mothers are not considered "alive" until they exit the womb. In this passage that you quoted God is talking about the creation of Adam who was not born from a human mother.Your interpretation is incomplete, out of context and therefore ultimately invalid.
@tycalvert9633
@tycalvert9633 6 жыл бұрын
Asa Tyson where does it say in the Bible that life begins with inception?
@texasrebel3184
@texasrebel3184 6 жыл бұрын
The breath of life is Gods spirit but when they commited sin God separated himself from us and we died spiritually but God has sent his son jesus christ to die for our sins and raised the third day so through him we could be made alive again and close to God.jesus christ is the way the truth and the LIFE and whoever believes in him should never perish but be made alive. If you do not believe in the son of God you are still dead in your sins.believe in christ and repent give yourself to him as he gave himself for us and you will be saved and made alive
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 6 жыл бұрын
YY4Me133 That doesn't apply to after Adam.
@Jesus-gh9gw
@Jesus-gh9gw 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I am a pro lifer :)
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Kyle has absolutely no idea what the hell he’s talking about.
@carnivalwholesale9809
@carnivalwholesale9809 Жыл бұрын
​@@pleaseenteraname1103 not really IT IS you, The shitty pro slavery guy that still has shown 0 proof of God
@carnivalwholesale9809
@carnivalwholesale9809 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact you were never divine
@giuffre714
@giuffre714 9 жыл бұрын
Abortion is a funny subject, in that people of faith and people of science swap places. People of science say things like "No one knows when life begins" or "It's a blob of tissue". On the other side people of faith are whipping out microscopes for the 1st time and bringing up DNA.
@brookecisneros5789
@brookecisneros5789 9 жыл бұрын
Abortion isn't funny. It's murder, that's it.
@giuffre714
@giuffre714 9 жыл бұрын
Brooke Cisneros Abortion isn't funny. It's the swap that's funny.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 9 жыл бұрын
+Brooke Cisneros read the Bible. Numbers 5:16
@giuffre714
@giuffre714 9 жыл бұрын
Duane Locsin What does that have to do with murder?
@Okijuben
@Okijuben 9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Giuffre Did you read Numbers 5 at all? It's an instruction manual for priestly, late term abortions.
@lakes26mi
@lakes26mi 10 жыл бұрын
"Thou Shalt Not Kill" -The Bible
@stacey2482
@stacey2482 9 жыл бұрын
It's not "thou shalt not kill" it's "thou shalt not murder". Big difference
@MagpieEpicdude
@MagpieEpicdude 9 жыл бұрын
stacey2482 In the KJV is says Thou shalt not kill in the NAB it says Thou shalt not murder. Therefore your point is irrelevant
@christophercaldwell5093
@christophercaldwell5093 9 жыл бұрын
You can't kill a fetus because it is not alive. It does not meet the criteria of being considered alive.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 9 жыл бұрын
+♫Epicsauce4000♫ Even the many versions of the Bible can't agree with each other. Perhaps they should edit, translate, re-interpret them and make a new one because the Bible is "inspired" by Yahweh.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 9 жыл бұрын
+theWolverine After that Moses smashed the stone tablets, because Yahweh was to much of a snob to actually dictate those commandments to all the people, but only Moses (But had no problem displaying his powers earlier on to all the people) Exodus 32:26 then Moses stood in the gate of the camp and said, “Who is on the Lord’s side? Come to me.” And all the sons of Levi gathered around him. 27 And he said to them, “Thus says the Lord God of Israel, ‘Put your sword on your side each of you, and go to and from gate to gate throughout the camp, and each of you kill his brother and his companion and his neighbor.’” 28 And the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses. And that day about three thousand men of the people fell. I suppose there is some technical interpretation, loop hole or fine print to "Though Shalt not Kill/Murder" that I don't get or was Moses so righteously exceptional? Can any devout Christians here explain this?
@ooyo8253
@ooyo8253 7 жыл бұрын
If a politician isn't willing to uphold the constitution and the law, in this case for religious reasons, then they shouldn't be in government!!! Plain and simple. Whether they personally think abortion is a sin, or homosexuality is a sin. Greed, adultery and gluttony are major sins and I see no politicians or government officials trying to stop those industries. We could start on wallstreet, all forms of corporate welfare, bailouts, making cheating illegal and punishable by law or the processed food industry.
@xooxbox
@xooxbox 10 жыл бұрын
i'm atheist and this just made me like the bible more
@sebastiandistefano7189
@sebastiandistefano7189 9 жыл бұрын
Michelle Couch Abortion IS NOT murder. It is if after 20 weeks, because as far as i know, the fetus' nervous system starts developing around 20-24 weeks. Before that, it is just an embryo.
@ChrisMSimba
@ChrisMSimba 6 жыл бұрын
Sebastian D as a matter of fact, no look: www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html
@ChrisMSimba
@ChrisMSimba 6 жыл бұрын
www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html
@heather2169
@heather2169 10 жыл бұрын
if you are going to quote scripture then quote the whole thing. Exo 21:22 "If two men are fighting and they strike a pregnant woman and her children are born prematurely but there is no harm, he is surely to be fined as the husband of the woman demands of him, and he will pay as the court decides. Exo 21:23 If there is harm, then you are to require life for life, Exo 21:24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
@Elijahs-iy3zq
@Elijahs-iy3zq 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm christian too. I agree with Kyle on economics and policy but abortion I'm in stark contrast with him. I'm a pro lifer
@eli_mattern
@eli_mattern 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elijahs-iy3zq wwww
@generalskunk6876
@generalskunk6876 8 жыл бұрын
This is probably the only video that might have made me believe in god again, and the "Christians" in the comments section ruined it for me. Thanks
@maxrubert5795
@maxrubert5795 5 жыл бұрын
You need to revisit how easily your faith is swayed
@Endeavr_
@Endeavr_ 9 жыл бұрын
My gosh dude, you know nothing of what you said. You take out so much, and ignore so many points in scripture, it's ridiculous. also, pork, in the Bible, had been presented to Peter as cleansed, so good try again.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 9 жыл бұрын
+Jesus Freaks "My gosh dude, you know nothing of what you said" look in the mirror troll.
@vlatkosurlan545
@vlatkosurlan545 5 жыл бұрын
Pork is not cleansed. Read those verses in Greek. Pork is toxic garbage. Was, is and always will be. It is absolutely unfit to even be touched by men.
@richardunderwood4158
@richardunderwood4158 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian who is personally against abortion, but politically I am prochoice, I believe it is a personally decision that should be left to the women. Lift people out of poverty to prevent abortion.
@SoraSlayer
@SoraSlayer 7 жыл бұрын
the exodus quote isn't in full. full quote says if the child is dead the punishment is life for a life. Say facts, don't lie.
@TelesmarTV
@TelesmarTV 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he didn't read the full scripture: 22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. -Exodus 21:22-25
@haydenbewley8497
@haydenbewley8497 6 жыл бұрын
Completely misrepresents Scripture. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit and the Word of God is considered the unpardonable sin. For me, that makes me very careful when interpreting the Bible. Judgment might be (speculation, not my place) rough for this fella. Let me break it down... He is using the KJV, which by all accounts from Biblical scholars is one of the least linguistically accurate translation of the Bible. Many passages contain words mistranslated (slightly, but the meaning differs greatly). Exodus 21:22-23 states that if the woman gives birth prematurely and there is NO serious injury there is a fine. Like assault, no injury, fine. It goes on to say and I quote (NIV), "But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." If the baby is stillborn or seriously injured the penalty is equal to the crime. Dead baby, death penalty. Now that's not what I'm suggestion be a "penalty" for abortion. I'm not making a statement on policy in the USA. I'm simply saying that traditional Jewish law values an unborn child as a life, the ending of that life would be penalized by death. This man did ZERO exegesis (interpretation of the original meaning to the audience of the ancient text). Cherry picked, blasphemed, shameful.
@DeoVolenteNL
@DeoVolenteNL 9 жыл бұрын
I stopped this video at 1:30 right after he cut off the catholic right before he was going to explain his point. Useless video. Not worth any of our time.
@Endeavr_
@Endeavr_ 9 жыл бұрын
+John Richards Actually you apparently don't know the truth. Grab a Bible and follow along with him, it's freaking laughable how much he removes and twists up. Even the lack of common sense he used with the Jeremiah scripture is hilarious. God doesn't know any of us before we are formed? He only knew Jeremiah? LOL.
@Endeavr_
@Endeavr_ 9 жыл бұрын
+John Richards Plus, yeah, he cut him off, that's a professional no no.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 9 жыл бұрын
+Deo Volente Hosea 9:11-14 "Ephraim's glory shall fly away like a bird-no birth, no pregnancy, no conception! Even if they bring up children, I will bereave them till none is left. Woe to them when I depart from them! Ephraim's sons, as I have seen, are destined for a prey; Ephraim must lead forth his sons to slaughter. Give them, O Lord-what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts." Numbers 5: 16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”- 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse-“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[d] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
@Okijuben
@Okijuben 9 жыл бұрын
+Jesus Freaks You missed the point of the Jeremiah reference. The actual scripture literally only refers to Jeremiah, as an elect of God. It has nothing to do with the issue of infanticide. Yahweh loves, loves, loves infanticide in all of its terrible forms. It's right there to be found in the Unholy Bible if you can manage to stop looking at it with pagan-colored eyes.
@thechannel5471
@thechannel5471 5 жыл бұрын
Go see the movie Unplanned... life changing! In this dark world a light shines on one of humanity’s darkest hours.
@erickutepow
@erickutepow 8 жыл бұрын
Why don't you let people who believe the bible do the bible interpretation
@MyImmaculateQueen
@MyImmaculateQueen 7 жыл бұрын
The Bible states "THOU SHALL NOT KILL". A unborn baby's heart starts beating at 21 days. That's a simple biological fact that upsets those who agree with murdering babies by cutting them up alive in their mothers wombs. What a cruel way to kill anyone!
@lauratheexplorer6390
@lauratheexplorer6390 7 жыл бұрын
It just occurs to me that it is utterly absurd to point to an ancient text which isn't even remotely factual and contains fairy tales to decide what your opinion is regarding medical and legal matters?! WTF???
@mizzprittyeyez
@mizzprittyeyez 6 жыл бұрын
Im a Christian and its true that people cherry pick the old testament when the word is clear in 2 Corinthians 2 that the old testament blinds the minds when they read the books of moses. We are not under the old ways..
@ronaldmcdonald2262
@ronaldmcdonald2262 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve run across this channel. Who shaved the monkey and put it on camera? I’ve heard better arguments from Taco Bell farts.
@whatsuppeopleworld
@whatsuppeopleworld 10 жыл бұрын
In other words....if Christians really took the New Testament seriously and literally, they'd be liberal hippies.
@LucVNO
@LucVNO 10 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand how your comments section isn't filled with thousands of fanatic hate comments.
@gcrady
@gcrady 10 жыл бұрын
They are fake accounts,,, paid trolls. Thx for not replying to them, and posting a separate comment about the problem :)
@TashWigley
@TashWigley 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't exactly say it's pro-choice. It's most definitely not pro-life, but it's also not pro-choice. Women have no choice over *anything* in the Bible. No, simply, women are ordered to get abortions in certain circumstances. It's less pro-choice, more simply pro-abortion.
@garfieldthecat3385
@garfieldthecat3385 8 жыл бұрын
Lol look at all the pissed off Christians in the comments
@ourlordpapajohn4370
@ourlordpapajohn4370 8 жыл бұрын
Ha ha XD randum stupid people who disagree with me who are making arguments
@danajoyner9266
@danajoyner9266 7 жыл бұрын
Christian here, far from pissed off. Don't judge. I'm actually pretty relieved...
@michaelbernard6033
@michaelbernard6033 7 жыл бұрын
You can't trust this man Dana... He is taking these scriptures far from context. Trust no man. Trust the bible as a whole. I will tell you Jesus's grace is sufficient for you. I pray you'll turn to him!!!
@danajoyner9266
@danajoyner9266 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Bernard I read the Bible, I pray if I'm confused. I've been in church my whole life and am very active. I trust what GOD tells me. : )
@danajoyner9266
@danajoyner9266 7 жыл бұрын
***** Clever....
@mwmann
@mwmann 6 жыл бұрын
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I apointed you a prophet to the nations." Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 5. Clearly proving an unborn child has a soul and is known by The Creator God. Abortion is murder no matter what kind of perverse leftist spin you try and give it. It is evil like all sin. And should not be practiced. Not being outraged by it is a serious character flaw. Just the same as not being outraged over cheating lies, murder, theft, sexual perversion, rape, pedophilia, etc. The problem is we have normalized wickedness to the extent that many immoral acts are now celebrated and endorsed. As time passes the consequences will slowly begin surfacing in different aspects of human life. As they already are. There is nothing progressive about modern 21st civilization that isn't being eroded as I type. The hubris displayed by modern man is a severe overlooked weakness.
@sharoncrose5447
@sharoncrose5447 10 жыл бұрын
Oh & "though shall not kill" goes without saying
@stacey2482
@stacey2482 9 жыл бұрын
It's not "though shall not kill" it's "thou shalt not murder". Big difference
@daolchang
@daolchang 9 жыл бұрын
stacey2482 well that´s why the church considers abortion=murder
@staceytoda2756
@staceytoda2756 9 жыл бұрын
daolchang But abortion isn't murder. Just another thing the church is wrong about
@daolchang
@daolchang 9 жыл бұрын
Stacey Toda Maybe it isnt, I dont know, im still learning more to get to a position on the subject that makes the more sense to me, Im just stating the position of the church about it, I dont care about its position since im an atheist
@YellowBoyWonder
@YellowBoyWonder 9 жыл бұрын
I guess what they meant was thou shall not kill (is highly recommended)
@Lordofthepoors
@Lordofthepoors 9 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you let the catholic official finish what he was saying? As a Catholic I do not hold with the doctrine sola scriptura. Something doesn't have to be banned in the bible to be wrong. Abortion is wrong from a scientific standpoint. Firstly, because a human fetus is human. Secondly, because an abortion causes physical and psychological harm to the mother. If anybody wishes to discuss these points rationally and respectfully, I am more than willing to do so, but I will not respond to random you are a gay hater, I want to shoot you comments.
@AVeryHappyPerson1
@AVeryHappyPerson1 9 жыл бұрын
***** And not a single person dares to disagree
@veganatheistandmore
@veganatheistandmore 6 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. thank you! I am pro-choice all the way.
@jgood6088
@jgood6088 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant?? Please, only an interpretation by a bias atheist, nothing more nothing less. Good luck with your beliefs.
@ea-tr1jh
@ea-tr1jh 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is not brilliant in the least. His arguments have already been refuted. Two of them were even based upon a mistranslation in the NIV Bible.
@carolarens9793
@carolarens9793 6 жыл бұрын
Throughout the Old Testiment barreness(childlessness was always seen as a curse from God) and being open to life, ie (Pro-Creation) and to the number of children that God wants to give you, however many that may be was always seen as a Blessing. This is precisely why Elizabeth says, in Luke 1:25 ""How kind the Lord is," she exclaimed," to take away my disgrace of having no children!" Also in Luke 1:41-46 says, "At the sound of Mary's greeting, Elizabeth's child leaped within her and she was filled with the Holy Spirit. She gave a glad cry and exclaimed to Mary, ""You are favored by God above all other women, and your child is destined for God's mightiest praise. What an this is, that the Mother of my Lord should visit me! when you came in and greeted me, the instant I heard your voice, my baby moved in me for joy! You believed that God would do what he said: that is why he has given you this wonderful blessing." Notice here that Scripture says that Elizabeth was not merely touched by the Holy Spirit but was FILLED with the Holy Spirit. Also notice that Saint Luke the author of this Gospel was a physican therefore he would not have used the word child in reference to John the Baptist or Jesus, if John the Baptist and Jesus were merely blobs of tissue, and not persons, and one Being of course a Devine Person, the Son of the Living God!!!!!!!!!!!! Sincerely in Christ Carol Arens
@lsilluminate3914
@lsilluminate3914 10 жыл бұрын
no, you have a strong delusion
@WitherRakdos
@WitherRakdos 4 жыл бұрын
Because pointing out the clear hypocrisy in the bible is delusional?
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
Why can’t you atheists just leave us alone
@nikko1187
@nikko1187 9 жыл бұрын
This whole video just proves your ignorance of scripture. If you really want to argue correctly find out what the other side actually has to say. You clearly haven't read any scholarly material from conservative Christians.
@nikko1187
@nikko1187 9 жыл бұрын
My whole point was that liberals don't listen to what the other side has to say. This video is proof of that. The truth is conservatives respond to liberals, interact with liberals, and read liberals. Most Liberals desire a monologue rarely a dialogue. This video is a good example of someone embracing ignorance. I recommend a book called "the closing of the American mind" by Allan bloom. Now in response to your other comment, yes I would love her. I would love her the way a Christian is called to love a person like that. That is by showing her her sin and telling her about the savior. We are called to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4).
@jessicashowalter6475
@jessicashowalter6475 9 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Ryan Not everyone believes in God or the bible. Most won't really want to listen about 'their' sins that 'you' think they've committed. I think both parties are horrible at listening to each other. I've been around many conservatives and many liberals - some of them will take the time to listen, and others don't. It's interesting how different people interpret the bible so differently. I obviously haven't read the bible - I've read parts here and there. But I know that no two people have the same experience, and thus they can interpret the same situation (or bible passage) in two completely different ways. My only point with that, is it underlines my point about 'listening' to others. Too often we become concrete in our thinking, our opinions, our views and beliefs. Sometimes, we can learn from others. I've contemplated reading the bible recently - despite not being apart of any religious affiliation, just because I feel that it would help me to get a better insight into something that so many people have read. I quickly skimmed Ephesians 4 that you mentioned. But not well enough to make a comment on it specifically.
@nikko1187
@nikko1187 9 жыл бұрын
You have to understand that I believe everyone who rejects christ is going to eternal punishment. The most loving thing to do then is to tell them what Gods word says. Well of course there is exceptions to every rule. Believing something firmly and listening to what others have to say are not mutually exclusive. There is nothing wrong with knowing what you believe and standing by it. Simply because people interpret the bible in many different ways does not mean that there can not be one meaning to every book, passage, and verse in the bible. The goal in bible interpretation is... What did the original author intend to say when he wrote it. You read the bible the same way you are reading my comment right now. You start off with the assumption that I meant something when I wrote it and that there is a context that I am writing. All people have a worldview that they think the world would be a better place if it was held by everyone. Even you. I pray you do read the bible. I would start with the gospels. You'll find very quickly that the jesus people usually think of (flower child) is not the historical Jesus at all.
@Allestya666
@Allestya666 9 жыл бұрын
Jessica Showalter
@sevens3
@sevens3 9 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Ryan I think the better question is "why do you believe everyone who rejects christ is going to eternal punishment"? Because if you don't have a GOOD reason, you're just full of shit--you have to reason to think ANYONE will suffer eternal punishment. And since you bring up the subject--you think your god is loving, moral, yet has set up a universe in which people are eternally punished for finite crimes? What kind of nonsense is that?
@1voltard4ever7
@1voltard4ever7 6 жыл бұрын
What about the Declaration of Independence, which is the Organic Law of the US, that guarantees the right to life?
@cassandrakrause3934
@cassandrakrause3934 8 жыл бұрын
God is not a cruel God...he will forgive you for your sins when you ask him to forgive you. If people put the motivation they do to stop abortion and put that in the children that are here then the world would be better. Prolife people only care about whats in side and they can care less about the children who are born. Fight to help child cancer them parents need help more then a cell. I believe women have a right to do whatever they want its their body. To prolife people are you going to pay for that child for 18 years, medical bills, food, clothes , diapers, formula , school actives, school lunch....ect ? God is an understanding God
@oksaturn122
@oksaturn122 8 жыл бұрын
no 'god' did mass genocide, he says all weathy people are not allowed in heavan, and many more....'god' is cruel
@cassandrakrause3934
@cassandrakrause3934 8 жыл бұрын
+Chase Crecelius your allowed into heaven if you believe in God and ask him to forgive you.
@elladigiovanni6101
@elladigiovanni6101 10 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian and I am pro-life, antichoice, whatever you want to call it. Obviously the biggest debate is whether a fetus or unborn baby is human life. This is what we need to figure out in order to come to a consensus on this issue. How do we figure out whether it is a life or not? Science, specifically biology... We're are not going to get anywhere by trying to argue political or religious beliefs on this issue because our country is so wonderfully diverse with so many different opinions! There is really only one thing all of us can agree on. And that's scientific fact. Trying to use anything else is a waste of time.
@JMz685
@JMz685 3 жыл бұрын
Numbers 5 doesn't say in any way imply abortion or miscarriage. The burden is on those claiming that it is about abortion to give good reasons to believe that claim.
@clownfishman6511
@clownfishman6511 3 жыл бұрын
It does imply that but it doesn't matter. God doesn't allow us to murder but he can.
@TorontoMapleLeafs-yt2xv
@TorontoMapleLeafs-yt2xv Жыл бұрын
​@Clownfishman so God's a piece of shit
@Endeavr_
@Endeavr_ 9 жыл бұрын
Exodus 21:22-23 You took out a very very important part of the first line, just after shaming us for taking something out(which we really didn't). why don't you read the actual piece for your viewers? If people are fighting, and a pregnant woman is struck in the process, and nothing else is done after, a fine must be paid. what does that mean? It means it was accidental, not on purpose, but you know... toss that first part aside, it doesn't help your point, right?
@Endeavr_
@Endeavr_ 9 жыл бұрын
Ok you did say the first part of it, but completely misunderstood it. Cross translate, it will help you.
@lenorewang6573
@lenorewang6573 3 жыл бұрын
The ESV is a much clearer version. Choosing King James makes the Bible look silly. Not to mention the mocking tone used and the constant references to “Biblical-speak.” If you don’t like King James, there are more than enough contemporary versions to choose from. Just saying.
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
The Ten Commandments say thou shalt not kill. I never saw anywhere in that Commandment saying “thou shalt not kill unless it’s abortion”
@vvjokinen7786
@vvjokinen7786 Жыл бұрын
I know it has been 4 years but is the bible against killing in self defense?
@worldsfunniest1515
@worldsfunniest1515 6 жыл бұрын
Im as strong of a Christian as it gets but i honestly dont need the Bible in order to know that killing babies is wrong. Even though it does say “ thou shall not kill”
@classyclaws
@classyclaws 8 жыл бұрын
your last comment about Bill O'Reilly (could be very much the same) said about you and your lack of research regarding the Biblical Principle of life! most take these concepts very flippantly. The Word is not vague but precise in the lascivious behaviour surrounding these types of instances and situations, yet people pervert, misconstrue and misappropriate the practical application of such verses to satisfy their own way of finding relief from guilt or redeeming innocence on a morally and spiritually based topic. KathrynBriley-Coats @CompassOfTruth
@janto58
@janto58 10 жыл бұрын
The bible home of the test of bitter waters.
@revolutionunderground
@revolutionunderground 3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of false biblical context here. I see his point, but for example, nobody was ever supposed to be put to death for eating shrimp. They were just ceremonially unclean. There's also a huge difference between being barren and having an abortion
@jonnysmith6820
@jonnysmith6820 6 жыл бұрын
It's not even pro-chioce, it's just pro-abortion. The woman gets no say in it. The law forced women to have an abortion.
@davy209
@davy209 10 жыл бұрын
The bible isn't pro choice, it's pro abortion. Big Difference!
@TheMattyg2012
@TheMattyg2012 10 жыл бұрын
***** Yes, it tells women to take poison so the foetus will fall out... Fucking contradiction after contradiction in that thing!!! (the bible) any holy book...
@jwmmitch
@jwmmitch 2 жыл бұрын
"You are compelled to protect life" OMFG... death sentence.... war.... poverty... the homeless... Just stop
@aylinayala5686
@aylinayala5686 5 жыл бұрын
Just because you can, doesnt mean you should.
@Islandangel101M
@Islandangel101M 6 жыл бұрын
Pro-choice is NOT Christian. Jesus was not a convenient pregnancy. Mary was not married and at the time, she could have been stoned for adultary. Abortion was absolutely out of the question. Mary would have died rather than consider that.
@Stacyhoff
@Stacyhoff 7 жыл бұрын
Your reasoning is sound but your disdain for Biblical beliefs and pro-lifers limits your audience. I couldn't show this to any pro-life friends because they would not listen past your attitude.
@eli_mattern
@eli_mattern 2 жыл бұрын
and because he’s taken everything out of context and spread misinformation
@Voidsworn
@Voidsworn 10 жыл бұрын
Does not matter to me, aborted or born, they are all tasty >:)
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
Exodus 20:13 You shall not murder Proverbs 6:16-19 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Psalm 127:3 Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Psalm 139:13-16 13 For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. 14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.[a] Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
@sydneymcwhorter2093
@sydneymcwhorter2093 7 жыл бұрын
He's just mocking the Bible
@kriz2665
@kriz2665 4 жыл бұрын
Duh lol
@Nimbusalliance
@Nimbusalliance 5 жыл бұрын
n the book of Numbers @-31, Jehovah orders the curse of women who bear children as the result of being unfaithful to their husbands, “may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." Very pro life indeed :-)
@alyssum4288
@alyssum4288 7 жыл бұрын
Times are different now. You can’t expect everything to stay the same.
@bodewadkwe3886
@bodewadkwe3886 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I'd hate to say it, I think that the US ahould split into 2 countrys. Pro lifers and Pro choicers. This debate probably won't go away.
@kello92300
@kello92300 6 жыл бұрын
You need to read the entire bible, including the new testament, to understand it better. The old testament verses that you quote are before Christ. Jesus came and made all things new. Christians are believers of the old and new testament. Not just old test. The bible clearly states throughout that children are a blessing from the Lord. But I guess you are correct when you say that the bible says we have the right to choose. It's called free will. God lets us be free to choose to do whatever we want. But He also says that you will go to hell for your choices, like murder, unless you repent and turn from your sins. Jesus is Lord and He loves you no matter what choices you make.
@joshdyck9495
@joshdyck9495 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother thankyou
@stphnmrrs3982
@stphnmrrs3982 8 жыл бұрын
The SBC initially praised Roe v Wade as a triumph for human rights and equality
@manualLaborer
@manualLaborer 8 жыл бұрын
"The Bible Is Pro-Atheism"
@bluediamond4895
@bluediamond4895 6 жыл бұрын
This is not helping people get close to God this is helping people follow the devil. This is murder we’re talking about. God doesn’t teach us to murder he teaches us to love one another. People are so selfish they want to murder innocent babies for selfish reasons.
@GrandeFamily
@GrandeFamily 7 жыл бұрын
Please read Exodus 21:22 for yourself. This KZbinr has it incorrect. Please read it for yourself
@jgood6088
@jgood6088 6 жыл бұрын
Here' s a secular atheist explaining the Bible to everyone. You must be right because you said so.
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