The BIG Issue For Titleist…

[@MassAppealGolf]

The thing that makes them my go to is the unreal amount of bounce and grind options

[@ahastar1141]

Exactly. The big surprise to me is that no one over this whole time Vokey had dominated, has quite got as many options as vokey does. I know a few are getting there, but that is what's made vokeys excellent. They are solid wedges but nothing special, however they come in enough options and simplify the grinds enough that generally I can go into a store and do a pretty decent job of getting what best fits my game.

[@Phil222G]

Cleveland Zipcore CBX for me excellent club and an excellent price

[@brettknutsen6476]

Don’t like the weight of cleavland.

[@discr1709]

@@brettknutsen6476different shaft/grip changes swing weight.

[@yamatexang7890]

I 2nd this comment. Cleveland no joke has some seriously good wedges. Game a Zipcore RTX 50 degree, a SmartSole 58 degree, and last but not least my SmartSole chipper. No joke the chipper is MONEY from off the fringe

[@Phil222G]

@@yamatexang7890Ive had the chipper in my bag and had to decided between a choice of clubs and the 9 wood won so out went the chipper but i do miss it

[@kyle_mutti]

Yeah had sm8s and tried out Cleveland wedges this year and made the swap. They are so nice

[@kolchak357]

I find most wedges are pretty good. But I’ve always been a Cleveland wedge fan.

[@gcoffey223]

I will use any wedge... as long as it says Cleveland

[@X00000370]

I'm very fond of my Cleveland wedges. I own Cleveland wedges in 64, 60, 56, 52, 50, and 48 degrees, not all in the bag at the same time.

[@craigedga4r]

Similar but tried the SM10s the other week - they are excellent!💪💪💪

[@BA-kp1us]

Have had SM4, SM6, SM8 and just bought the SM9 on sale. I’ve also had wedges from the MG line from TM. Vokeys are better (spin, feel, control and trajectory) - not a lot better - but better…the issue is the price for sure but that’s why I always buy the prior year when the new ones come out. And I have 2 bags to equip so that’s driven my buying too. The grind and bounce options are awesome and no one has as many great options.

[@Blazeweed-nd9ok]

Do you know if the drivers, tsr2 go on sale when the new ones come out as well?

[@asherdales]

I got into the TM Hi-Toe and the feel is what hooked me. Vokeys have always felt kinda chunky to me.

[@lexxwhite747]

My 9s are worn down, so I'm just waiting for my 10s to come in now

[@paulbown3960]

I am looking forward to you testing the new Ping wedges, many thanks James, keep up the good work

[@TaroZak]

Got fit for MG4’s in Oregon where it’s muddy and wet most of the time. Moved to Florida and those wedges were no use. Wanted to go with TaylorMade again but… they have no low bounce left handed options. My only option was Titleist so I went with theSm10, 56-8M and 60-4T. Excited for the to get here, have never used a Vokey before.

[@gassyjones]

Great vid James. The bottom line is, like current green fees and hotel rates, as long as people are paying these prices with little to no resistance, prices will go up and up and up. They will push it as high and for as long as they can go.

[@mrneutral5081]

I have a wedge fitting next week and sold my Vokey SM8 wedge set in anticipation of the SM10 living up to the hype. In the meantime I got out my Mizuno MP-R12 which I bought new but rarely used. Anyway what’s been interesting for me is how good the MP-R12 feel and perform given these came out around 2012. As such I’m going with an open mind for my fitting and will buy what feels and works best for me.

[@tomtempinski2781]

I love the full face groove wedges. Just picked up a Cleveland 58. Really fits my eyes.

[@uwrossl]

Always Vokey for me. Always know how they are going to perform and I have the best results and most confidence in them. Been through several wedge fittings and nothing gets close. That along with all the different grinds they offer made it easy to dial in exactly what I needed. I personally though don't get that hyped when the new release comes out. I buy new wedges when I need them because I've worn out the current model in my bag and not because they released a new version. Happy to upgrade to the new versions when I am purchasing whichever model that may be but don't run out to get the new one when it's released and don't delay it either to wait for a new version. Vokeys are always good with marginal difference from release to release. Because they always look good and the look is minimally changed it doesn't bother me if I end up with two different models in the bag....which often happens because my lob wedge gets replaced every year and my gap and sand wedges every other typically.

[@SePhO11]

I game the Jaws MD5, got them ex demo, as a lefty the ex demos had barely been hit, £70 a wedge, great to play with. A mate got some SM9s and got rid of them within 3 months as he hated them.

[@jimorr3252]

Have you looked at Edison wedges?

[@donkee9]

I love the vokey grind and bounce options. If I didn’t play vokey id go back to Cleveland’s

[@littlebob1261]

I have to say, the Taylor Made MG4's are pretty epic

[@donkee9]

@@littlebob1261 I agree they look nice.

[@lorimeyers3839]

Went on a golf trip to Myrtle Beach last week. Picked up an sm10 56.10. I have the sm9 pw, gw and LW. I absolutely feel even more weight in the hosel than my sm9 lob wedge. Really makes the face want to square up at impact. Feels great, nice, low flight. But honestly, I don’t see enough of a difference to justify spending that $189 when there are plenty brand new SM9s still out there for a fraction of the price.

[@francismcclard7851]

Best wedges that I have tested and in my bag are Wilson staff model wedges awesome feel and spin.. hidden gems

[@petekenny3774]

Agreed

[@bfdfunk]

Agreed I've got a 60 degree high toe and it's incredible

[@francismcclard7851]

@@bfdfunk , yes 👍. I’ve got a 50 and a 56 full face .. only wedges I will buy until proven otherwise

[@kenthansen3557]

I played Vokey for a couple years and transitioned to Clevelands. I never imagined not hitting Clevelands, hit em for 35 years. Last year I tried the Wilson Staff wedge and was blown away...30% increase in spin on my 58 deg...if you're in the wedge market, you owe it to yourself to give the Staffs a go

[@tobychunn]

I have been a Vokey fan for years. At one time, I had every Vokey from 48 to 64. Pre-SM and left-handed. Unfortunately, a burglary at my club resulted in the loss of about half. I have the 48, 54, and 58 in one bag and 52, 56, and 60 in the other bag. Mainly because of the loft of my pw in each set. I haven't replaced them all (basically because of cost) and now with some skills waning a little, I considering something with different turf interaction, maybe Takomo ,

[@bd500]

James, I’d be interested to see how you think the Mizuno T24 wedges compare, … in fact love you to do side by side with Vokey, Mizuno, Callaway, TaylofMade & Ping…there’s a challenge for you and Mr Dennis.😊

[@kevinmclafferty7854]

Great in-depth review! You are thorough and concise. Your disclaimer is critical - People watching need to get fit. That’s the key. I politely take what you’ve said a few steps further; I hit SM10 and hated them. Nothing like the Vokeys I remember. The 10s are clicky and too rounded. Hitting them was not an enjoyable experience The Taylormades are certainly one to try and will please many players That being said, nothing beats a Japanese forging. Try Mizunos

[@littlebob1261]

Bro, how do you get all these clubs? New content daily basically!! Love it

[@BillPigg]

*I love my Acme wedges from Walmart!*

[@craigwightman7296]

I love my mizuno t22s..... would equally take a set of vokeys but they were nearly another 100 more for a set of 3

[@CPBuilds]

Literally got fit today for the SM10's. Got them coming in 54-12* and 58-08* in the nickel finish. Much prefer that look over the chrome and black. I had raw wedges before and they didn't seem to spin a ton more for me so....nickel it is.

[@icesycle2262]

Nice job on the video. The more I watch your videos, the more respect I give you.

[@bluetoughguy]

I use Cleveland zipcores. That said, I didn't get fit and I have 6 degree bounce in my 56 and 60, they are hard with more touch shots where I don't always consistently make good contact. I may end up needing another wedge that has a bit more bounce for those shots. They are great for full shots

[@rielbertrand8255]

Love my SM9s. From testing I’ve seen lower lunch and higher spin for more control with the SM10. I think I’ll wait to get the SM10s at a discount when the release the new wedge next year.

[@victorrosario4494]

It’s all about the PXG 0311 3x forged wedges. Super soft feel and u get fantastic spin with them. But there are a lot of great wedges available.

[@montegustafson5142]

The thing about Titleist/Vokey wedges is there are multiple designs for virtually every playing condition. For top players can see the reason, but for average players a good all around wedge (or wedge set) should be enough and I don't see where Vokey wedges are marketed that way. I use a wedge set (SW, LW) with relatively wide soles and minimal bounce and they work just fine.

[@wickdghost3639]

I have an SM8 58/10 and it's in real good condition, and I also have a Callaway Mack daddy 2 in 58/10 and it's beat more that a redheaded step child, there's no milling left on the face, the edges of the grooves are just about round, and it still feels better in so many ways than the SM8. I want to like the vokey, I really do. I try them and try them and I just don't get the performance out of them that you can with other wedges. Hell I got a set of wedges for Dunham's to put in a bag of extra clubs I have for friends to use when they wanna go out but don't have their own clubs and they were $50 bucks a piece, they're Rife brand, made in China, I have them is 52, 56, and 60 and they are actually super nice. I feel like they are just a soft feeling and produce just as much, If not more, spin. They even have laser etched micro grooves kinda like the vokey but not as many. It just has two laser lines between each main groove. Blew me away with the performance for the money.

[@TheDashCave]

I like seeing the wear and tear on black

[@matthewdelaney9861]

Same. Love it when they get a nice patina from play. Tools not jewels at the end of the day.

[@realonethreesevens3640]

I’ve got Mizuno T22 and I love them! Just need to get my wedge swing on track

[@davidbivens6858]

I used to play Vokeys but then I hit some Cleveland’s… the zipcore RTX are my favorite clubs in the bag and the best feeling wedges I’ve over played.

[@fiddlemywhat6056]

i had my SM4's for years and loved them... now i play the Cobra Snakebite's and wow they are every bit as good as any other wedge i've played..

[@justinsmith2918]

I still have 3 MG3 wedges in the bag and love them, short game is where you can save a lot strokes

[@davidbowe9999]

Did I miss something? What is the difference between the 9s and the 10s? Just CG?Is it higher lower?

[@FredzGolf]

They've just looked the same to me since SM4 and they still have the same stock shaft 😂

[@troyrambo6804]

I have an SM4 60 refinished and it looks and feels a 1000 times better than my SM8. I also have a 2009 Spin milled forged TVD 56 refinished as well and that is by far one of the best feeling wedges I own and I own a LOT of wedges. The new ones are just cast, and clicky and tbh not remotely interested in a finish that wears off so quickly. Try the new MG 4 Taylormades, they feel great and they spin like crazy.

[@90Gilbow]

SM8 are cast also@@troyrambo6804

[@neilcameron3021]

Cast wedges with s200/300.shafts

[@MrPhil1503]

Not if you get fitted...Project X, flat lie to match my irons. Worthwhile investment if you want to be good at the short game

[@FredzGolf]

@MrPhil1503 I wish everyone would do that!!! Off the rack has limitations and if you can be patient enough to place an order at no upcharge 👌 perfect

[@gfr207]

Remember Titleist is on a 2 year product cycle.....While other Companies pump out "something new" every year

[@dankagentwillis979]

SM9’s were too pully on full shots, moving weight away from toe stabilizes the full shots. Definitely a big improvement in the SM10

[@blindsquirrel3123]

Vokey’ s sell because they have the word “Vokey” on them. They are good wedges! I will not debate that at all. I have a 52’ in my bag. Is it better than my Cleveland? Not really. The key is finding the wedge (or any club) that YOU like and spending a good amount of time practicing with them.

[@jackquartermaine2497]

I have just had a club fitting last Friday for the sm10 wedges having 4 off them 46 8f grind 52 10s grind 56 10s and 60 12d very consistent at my targets j was aming at

[@jackquartermaine2497]

A lot of money thought

[@al1356]

Tried the SM10 couple of days ago. Brilliant club and very consistent, but at over £160 per club no thanks. I’m trying the new Pings next week which are £40 per club cheaper. If they perform as well I’ll save myself £120.

[@MrICURNVS]

I wouldn’t mind seeing a test between your Tacoma wedges, and the Titleist wedges. Or do you only play the Tacoma wedges on the Sunday series?

[@davidallender9158]

I have had Cleveland in the bag for a good bit. I like them a lot…my boy grabs the Ol’ 53* out of the bag anytime he is within 80 yards..

[@jacobmccain8082]

Theyre just more consistent than any Ive found. Not the highest spinning, not the most forgiving. But if I take an SM8-10 58M I know exactly what itll do and it does it every single time. Vokey is a master at if it aint broke dont fix it.

[@djmitch1]

They haven't changed much but if you play alot of golf; the problem is that grooves wear out and you have to buy a new one. I always buy last years version.

[@edwardbrown6245]

Vokey has always been a high performing product..got to wonder why Bob never went to high toe design?..personal I love my Vokey wedges!

[@500VulcanRider]

I like TaylorMade Hi Toe wedges and Cleveland CBX Zipcore would be my second choice. I agree with a comment below, certain clubs in golf seem to be way over rated. Certain Wedges and putters immediately come to mind.

[@TaroZak]

I also do think we’ve reached a spot in golf where the equipment year to year or every two years isn’t go to change much just because of the limitations and how far technology has come. Replacing grooves and shaft fitting will always be important but technology wise, I feel like we’ve hit a wall a little.

[@jetdr]

Vokey is the gold standard for a reason! They work and look good doing it!

[@LaurenceDunn-v6r]

How do you hit different shots with a 56 degree wedge? bump and run to stop and stick.

[@donwalton6325]

Ball position and shaft lean. Ball towards front foot with little shaft lean gives a high shot, ball towards back foot with plenty of forward shaft shaft lean gives a lower one.

[@LaurenceDunn-v6r]

Thanks @@donwalton6325

[@foxybeardman7283]

I wish vokey made a full face wedge like the hi toe would absolutely love that option

[@iHiTMaN69]

I just bought a 3 set of SM9's for $300 still in the wrapper. Always buy the previous years wedges.

[@slicerjohn1897]

Vokey are good I’ve got one in a 60 a cobra in 56 and a zipcore in a 50 I know they don’t match but they work well for me 👍.

[@mladin1]

The SM10 model was designed to bring a slightly lower ball flight compared to the SM9. Vokey for life. 💪🏻

[@epicragegaming2016]

i was looking for 2 new wedges and the big golf store had sm9 for 110p each. hard to beat.

[@acbower4468]

Taylor made TW wedges are amazing! The bounce and grind is perfect for me

[@russellmorrison1559]

Played Vokeys for many years. Replace every couple of years and buy the model that has just been replaced. Just replaced my SM 7s with brand new SM 9s at £99 pound each.

[@ruatoomey9107]

Still playing Cleveland CG16s, absolutely love em, bit worn but you have to judge your game. It’s not all about spin, except for the marketing gurus of course 😂😂😂

[@joannaespley6035]

Price point off - putting when you can get previous iterations for under £100. Not sure a lot of us would be able to see much difference between SM8 or SM9.

[@MassAppealGolf]

I only upgrade because I play a ton of golf and I just want fresh grooves

[@Sohlio]

I use a SM7 in 50 & 56 a SM8 in 60. Should I switch to SM 10?

[@jackvliet]

I think james' best wedge were the mizuno s23

[@91wagon65]

New wedge prices are wild. Last time I bought wedges was 2016. Went in for a fitting wanting a SM6 set and ended up leaving with Cleveland. Play once to twice a week maybe 7 months out of the year. Still get over 9,500 spin Don’t buy new wedges unless they are absolutely beat.

[@Twosevenboy1]

jus put in my order for a sm10 52 10 F jet black beyond excited

[@kevinheitz9283]

Played the SM 7 & 8. Switched to Sub70 JB wedges. Prefer the feel of the JBs.

[@ndmagic99]

Great wedges but Cleveland will always be the best wedges for me. Amazing spin and consistency and cheaper

[@peterprescott9041]

Still have the original SM s in the bag. After 17 years they still stop my ball on the green better than anything new.

[@allenprows4977]

With the new baby I guess you’re not getting much sleep… are those your wife’s runners you have on?😂 I enjoy your content keep up the great work

[@troyrambo6804]

Not a lot of innovation, regardless of the hype, other than sole grinds. The main issue I have with them is not price, it's that the lob wedge is a 3 piece construction, with a hollow section to move weight around. They feel like crap and they are clicky on chip shots. They used to be forged and these cast models are inferior to the Cold forged or the Japan forged which you can only buy over seas or online for over $300 a head.

[@stevenbowers2429]

vokeys have never been forged

[@jeffpound259]

I kept my sm9 couldn’t see or feel anything different

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Great review James

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Cheers TT 🙌🏼 when are we having that game? ⛳️

[@tommiethatcher7265]

@@JamesRobinsonGolf we must do it this year mate, I would love for you to come down to our course to see what you think of it

[@kevinmcarthur1690]

I think they are behind other wedges in technology, grooves etc

[@jafolcke]

“Stopped on the downslope” - my friend, that’s more of a fairway than a green. I’d hope anything wouldn’t roll out on that.

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

That would make it harder to stop you doylum 🙌🏼😂

[@SuperAloeFresh]

Got an sm10 50 this week on order. It hurt spending $200

[@jackquartermaine2497]

I have 4 coming lol that was expensive lol

[@vincentharper6761]

Shot of the year to finish with 😂😂😂

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Tell me about it 😂

[@markbroderick1525]

I went with the sm9 about 2 weeks ago,was not paying £170 per sm10,no major difference with the new model my pro said,great wedges tho,spin machine👍⛳

[@craigedga4r]

Srixon Divide - excellent balls for wedge practice/s - yellow / orange best💪💪💪

[@ivancamphor2886]

Was the last shot a shank 😮

[@garydavis8213]

1 FORGE (not cast) 2 Full face grooves 3 continue several grinds and bounces THEN you’ve got a wedge. I cannot for the life of me figure out why these wedges are cast instead of forged.

[@Tom-ok2rh]

As much as I love the look of the Vokeys they just seem way too heavy for my liking. Not sure why but they are just a different feeling than the other brands.

[@petekenny3774]

James did you know wedge sweetspot is near the heel 🤯🤯🤯

[@brettknutsen6476]

I trust Titleist. That is what it comes down to for me.

[@chuckgame4210]

wedges are all cast. rarely forged. think about that when you say you want forged.

[@royclose946]

I use the taylormade mg4 wedges never been a vokey fan 😊

[@sebchambers12]

How are you finding they are holding up? Have they rusted/lost the mini grooves at all?

[@royclose946]

Yea they are rusted but get enough spin on them

[@ryajsmit]

Compare to rtx 6 and mizuno

[@jackbaker1921]

£170!! These were £70 fifteen years ago 🤯

[@tedrstedrs6690]

Nice trick shot sir

[@howardchen3456]

I don’t understand the popularity of vokey wedges. The may have been the best wedges initially but there are so many better wedges today

[@craigedga4r]

JR you are forgetting that they have added the heat treatment thus will last longer so therefore any business will ensure that the price reflects this!!!! GROSS / NET profit margin over x2 fiscal years! 🤪🤪🤪

[@petekenny3774]

Smithworks 👍👍👍👍

[@garrycroy2896]

There's only so much you can do with clubs and I think Titleist need to reset. Other brands beating them hands down across their range.

[@jeffnahass8373]

I do not believe they are the best wedge. The older, ones were better. Hey dressed it up and have to market a new one. Kind of silly. Mind you, they are nice. You can only do so much to a piece of metal. He should also say they made the steel softer to wear more so you’ll need the buy a new one every year.

[@mikejazz75]

Titleist really miss the mark by not offering a full face groove wedge

[@factsunbiased5157]

You want grooves on the hosel as well?!

[@mikejazz75]

@factsunbiased5157 your opinion means nothing to me why did you even bother commenting on my opinion ???

[@CSwivel]

Vokey has taken notes from Apple 😂

[@davidree2858]

this is gonna be unpopular but.. I've always thought vokeys were over rated? I had sm4s and sm6s a few years back. they were OK but not out of this world.

[@jeffkessel669]

Ladies shoes?

[@josephkool8897]

So what exactly the issue? Must have missed it. Titleist is the goat

[@joebeem7350]

Cleveland wedges are better