The Big Monster Madonoko Saw | Craziest Hand Tool That Will Open Up Your Mind!

[@mauriman2210]

I'm in awe of Japanese, tenacity, they stubbornly refuse to do crappy work! In their capacity, they excel in power to always do their best.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you :)

[@mauriman2210]

@@WoodworkingEnthusiasts , most welcome 🤗

[@mrsmd4616]

I wish we had this aspect of their culture. Amazing. We just produce shit.

[@Improveng1]

Japanese craftsmen are in a league of their own and are a joy to behold.

[@BubuMarimba]

I respect this "hand work" very much! How thoughtful, how confident!

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you very much!

[@douglasgault5458]

Japanese saws are the only hand saws that I've owned & used for 40 year's. The most efficient saws made in my opinion & a pleasure to use. Much faster than grabbing a electric & extension cord & always a super fine cut with fantastic accuracy

[@DeanTheDoctor]

They are a pleasure to use for sure! 😊🌎✌️

[@wessamazzo8856]

I love Japanese saws with passion.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you so much!!

[@kurenai5000]

That saw just shreds through wood. すごいですね

[@oldskooljules]

Hahaha! "Craziest Hand Tool That Will Open Up Your Mind!" This feels like a threat!

[@DeanTheDoctor]

That looks like a very accurate and easy to use saw. 😊🌎✨

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

glad you liked it

[@ronitsingh85]

the definition of perfection is a 10 fold or more than what we call perfection in the Japanese dictionary. mind boggling meticulous workmanship.

[@bobjimenez4464]

Let the saw do the work....no down force needed. Nice Saw!!!!!

[@k9six185]

Dudes a STUD....."never stopped in that last block of wood.....way to go !

[@vidinwoodworker]

Great saw and craftsmanship but I don't understand why he didn't use a bandsaw.

[@DariuszBłaszczyk-r9o]

wielki szacunek dla japonskiej technologi

[@ronaldkearn6368]

I own that same saw. Had it for years. I use it outside for cutting branches and small saplings. Very sharp. Only cuts on the pull stroke,but, that does not impede the quality of the cutting. Great saw.

[@2adamast]

By design it looks like a symmetrical bi-directional saw, but nothing stops you to use it on the pull only. Luckily Japan still makes feather files as triangular files don't work with those old style saw blades.

[@erictrinque6513]

I would like to know the maker and if there is a website or shop associated with his saws please. What an amazing piece. Thank you

[@harrry444]

that is the tool. The sound of cutting ... super

[@abebeaku8369]

now, repeat this for another 20 boards :)

[@johnmontague69]

OK I'll take 1 to hang it up in my shed! 😃

[@phaganators]

I’d rather not open my mind with a handsaw😎👍

[@ervinrona4941]

9 .

[@BoopShooBee]

These guys don't need to go jogging after work to stay in shape.

[@sylvaingermanier98]

Its a great privilege. As I spend 4000-6000 kcal each day as a frame carpenter, i can eat wathever i want

[@laurencelebeustclair833]

wonderful saw well done

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you very much!

[@ZygmuntKiliszewski]

Good job. Congratulations 👌.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Thank you! 😃

[@oneshotme]

Enjoyed and gave a Thumbs Up also

[@MrPotatochips4]

why is the guy with the wood clamped to the table using a crosscut caw to make a rip cut?

[@hillbilly4christ638]

Doesn’t know any better. You see how slow the progress is. A rip saw would do many times better than that.

[@canobenitez]

@@hillbilly4christ638 yeah, for rip cuts japanese used a whale saw, also known as Maebiki Nokogiri.

[@newtonianartist7088]

they adjust the saw set with a hammer. golden

[@dholmes3307]

Until the invention of the hand set pliers western saw makers used a hammer and set tool as well. For large hand saws you still need a hammer and a setting stake/anvil.

[@musamor75]

Thank YOU for posting. I'm sorry, I have to take away a point or two for the music. It might be better if there were just the sound of the tool, don't you think? This is certainly an impressive saw! It must take some muscle power nonetheless.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

thank you so much for taking the time to comment so well.. i'll Do better next time:((

[@vegoil]

Or some more traditional Japanese music! Impressive all around!

[@donaldgoembel7109]

Woodworking Enthusiasts you did fine, a very good video indeed. I found a button on the side of my phone that helped me tremendously. It was kinda hard at first to figure it out and just what all I could do with it. I push that button and open my window and outside of it my bird feeder house a verity of birds eating and singing which then becomes my background music. No my friend I have to give you and the others that made this possible a big tip of the hat and a big thank-you.

[@calvinbass1839]

@@donaldgoembel7109 That's funny! Sarcasm is a beautiful thing at times. Agreed, nice video.

[@tymz-r-achangin]

5:01 Interesting video but how does the craftsman straighten those heat-treated blades after they were warped as hell from being quenched

[@gammazzz3894]

such an intelligent and beautiful tool!

[@maguraboy]

Great!

[@turniok4315]

!!! TOP Nichon !!!

[@mikesinistar8834]

That is the slowest cutting camping saw I've ever seen

[@brianedwards7142]

I think he was cutting like that to get straight(er) cuts to his planks.

[@Photostudioww]

I had a saw with a handle like that made a bunch of cuts with it but I made a straight handle for the blade and it feels a lot better.

[@crwood3709]

I want make it. . .

[@___X___]

Well that took a long time to cut.

[@уйбуй]

fuck Japanize and chainize all technology from germania

[@tomthompson7400]

a big chain saw cuts aggressively ,, thats like watching paint dry , fine craftsmanship though

[@pepolim5935]

As you can see, when he is finish with that log another batch of saws were already made

[@anthachop]

Where can I get one?

[@mdsha8393]

I am intrested to learn saw making in Japan pleas can I get help from Japan???

[@ramlroreyes2287]

I am from monterrey mex a wish one of it

[@luisadrianomeusparabens6863]

gostei eehem top parabéns

[@ambsquared]

A more stable workbench would have helped the cut go faster.

[@cleanthegreen]

The Japanese understood that It’s easier to cut on the pull stroke that’s why Thier tools are something else.

[@mikenottis6252]

cleanthegreen So why is it easier to cut on the pull stroke?

[@JoshIbbotson]

@@mikenottis6252, In general, you can utilise your entire body better to pull and the act of the saw pulling backwards makes the steel pull straight through cut meaning you can have a much thinner kerf than a western blade, western blades are much thicker otherwise the pushing force would bend in the cut easily

[@emmaperametsa4671]

Pulling makes the blade even straitening more, no matter how much power you are using.

[@miketuesday267]

How long does it take to cut a live edge? Ten yrs?..

[@mihailsaruman1160]

That's why i like husqwarna chainsaw😂

[@j.palomera690]

Where can I buy this type of saw? In the description there are links to other tools but none to this ... Or any tutorial on how to make it...?

[@andrefleuriet2391]

Très bonne vidéo 👏

[@Ham68229]

I prefer the Japanese pull saws over the western push saws, so much easier on bad shoulders. With practice and care of the saw(s), I believe that even the pull saws can still do a much better job and last as long as the western saw with the harder woods in the states.

[@se6550]

They used to make great buggy whips too.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

do you mean like an outdated saw?

[@dieselscience]

Craziest saw that will 'Open up your mind.' ... I think that's 'open up your skull.'

[@Katzenkratscher]

Make a video where they display how they make a big saw.

[@nicolasfredette8564]

Most of this video is about craftsmen making that saw... Did you even watch ?

[@Katzenkratscher]

They made a small saw. Not that big one displayed at the beginning of the video.

[@chicotruco]

is like cut your grass with a pair of scissors

[@redwolfmedia1276]

Beautiful saw and nice cut but it appeared to take forever to complete the cut. Again I've never used the saw but since there was not down force or very little,it appeared not to be cutting or if it was so slightly ya couldn't tell. I do believe This observation was correct because he eventually applied downward force and it started cutting again. He then completed the cut.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Great point!

[@bigredc222]

I believe the way the handle is angled it applies downward pressure on the teeth.

[@emmaperametsa4671]

Thats right C Smith

[@pcka12]

Very similar design to the classic British ‘two handed saw’!

[@KamuiPan]

Must be a island thing.

[@niklar55]

I would class the teeth on this saw as ''crosscut.'' Crosscut teeth are very inefficient when used as rip saws. The chap cutting the tree down, was using it in its correct mode. I have a couple of small Japanese style saws, but I find them very difficult to control accurately, because they are too flexible.

[@przybyla420]

I would guess one of three things - since the Japanese have completely optimized the saw design :) 1) Yours are cheap 2) You haven’t got the hang of the pull stroke, you can’t bear down at all - at all - while pushing the saw back into position for the next stroke, or else it wants to bend instead. Less downward is required than with a push saw because of the narrower kerf, which leads us to 3) Your saws are very very thin kerf tiny little teeth specialized saws maybe for flush trimming or cutting joints in very thin stock, sawing bamboo.

[@niklar55]

@@przybyla420 Probably all of those.😊

[@kw97278641]

Why not use a reciprocating saw instead ???

[@commongivemeanicknam]

Where to buy

[@joseleal7811]

No maltratar a los arboles con vida, solo alos srboles muertos, xd,, 🌲🌳🌴🌱🌿🍀☘️🎍🎋🍃🍂🍁🍄🌾💐🌷🌹🥀🌺🌸🌼🌻🌞🌝🌱🐠🐟🐬🐳🐋🐙🦑🦐🦀🐡🐡🐢🐞🐝🦋🧚🏼‍♂️👀, protejer la naturalesa,

[@orelygarcia]

💜👍👍

[@przybyla420]

The guy with the red clamp handle needs to alternate his angle of attack slightly every five or so strokes. He’s attacking it at a constant angle, that’s 2-3 times the effort. By alternating your angle back and forth you are in effect ripping a thinner board...

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Great Point!!

[@iotaje1]

Also he's using a crosscut timber saw for ripping a dry piece of wood... Not only is the blade much thicker than necessary, the teeth are not efficient for that sort of work. It would go quicker and easier with a large ripcut kataba.

[@ditzydoo4378]

It's a simple one person M-toothed Rip-saw. This design of saw edge been in existence for, oh since forever. This one simply has different shaped handle and the teeth are inclined when compared to ones I have that have pasted down in our Oregon logging family for generation.

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

Good Point!!!

[@emmaperametsa4671]

Is that a rip saw?

[@hsmith3844]

I truly hope there are young people wanting to learn these arts. It would be a shame if they died as some others have.

[@morgorth3242]

why is he rip cutting with a crosscut saw?

[@pirobot668beta]

Funny; to me it looks like someone broke their two-man cross-cut saw in half and kept the short bit!

[@paulmorneault5789]

This is a crosscut saw (for cutting across the grain), not a rip saw (for cutting with the grain). At min 1:10, the vid starts to shows ripping with this crosscut saw. Trying to rip saw with a crosscut saw is very slow as a crosscut saw is not designed to rip. If you put up a video about saws, especially as your channel specifically has to do with woodworking, you really ought to know this very basic fact concerning saws and make this distinction.. No one benefits by the decimation of poor, inaccurate or misleading information as this serves no one. There is plenty of info available about these different types of saws. I guess "We don't know what we don't know." What is also interesting is that I see no comments regarding this obvious problem. Because this basic difference does not appear to have been seen by many others, it tells met that not many watching the vid knew this difference or bothered to comment . There was so much knowledge and awareness in the traditional trades as compared to today. We can't count on retailers to provide us with the knowledge. We are better off obtaining our info from those traditional craftsman who know and by simple observation and inquisition, not blindly believing what is being peddled as so called, "fact". I'm passionate about this because so many enthusiastic, well meaning people starting in traditional crafts are often provided with poor information and/or inferior tools while lacking the skills or ability to figure out what or why their efforts are not obtaining the desired results. Therefore wondering why their results are poor. Especially with hand tools. Partly because they did not have opportunities when they were young to learn through experience. Nor do they have the skills to observe their results and be able to determine what is actually happening so they can make the necessary adjustments to their technique or tools to obtain the desired result. These ramifications are rooted in the practice of mindless behavior and/or blindly following the actions of others without fully understanding what is actually happening. Then the person often times being disipointed believes that they need a power tool or machine to do the work or end up loosing interest all together and giving up. What a shame with either scenario. Being caught up in the marketing minutia and romanticism, as that is what is primarily available, while missing out on many of the very significant and important aspects.

[@TheLovie999]

If there is plenty of information on saws available, why do you not go there and spread your wisdom somewhere else? I am just happy, like all others here, with what I saw. Pun intended.

[@paulmorneault5789]

Hi: Thanks for your reply. To answer your question, I would be preaching to the choir. It appears that you are choosing the prospective, based on your reply, that "ignorance is bliss." Like I mentioned, we don't know what we don't know. Understanding why saw teeth are shaped and sharpened in a certain way and understanding what the teeth are doing, is important knowledge. The reason why it is important is because, in knowing this you would easily see how starting at min. 1:10 , the saw is progressing quite slowly while trying to rip. Regardless what the commentator may be saying. BTW, I've sharpened all sorts of hand and power operated wood saws for many years. This information I'm sharing was common knowledge for all carpenters for many hundreds and even thousands of years as they sharpened their own saws. They understood and would be sharing similar comments to those I'm sharing. Today with the luxury of the throw-away approach to many wood cutting saws, this basic knowledge of many years ago is now quite rare. Here is the lesson: Cross cut teeth: These teeth are like little knives that are designed to cut across the fibers of the wood like a knife. One set of knives on the left, one set of knives on the right, alternating back and forth as the saw teeth are set to be wider than the saw plate. If you look down the teeth, you will see a "V" formed as the teeth are set back and forth and the teeth are sharpened in a pointy "tetrahedron" shape. You can see this in the image at 10:27. You can turn the saw with the teeth pointing upward and actually lay a needle parallel to the saw in the groove that is formed by the alternating teeth. The saw dust that is formed from a cross cut saw are short lengths of wood fibers as the alternating tooth set cuts each end of the short lengths of wood that make up the saw dust. Rip teeth: These teeth are like chisels. They are designed to scoop out the wood. There is no tetrahedron type point like the cross cut saw in the video. The teeth are also set to allow clearance for the saw plate. Ripping teeth are "Triangular prism" shape. The saw dust ought to be long curls. Sort of like narrow sections of what comes off a hand plane. When you turn the saw with the teeth facing up, there is not groove down the middle. The flat chisel shaped profile of each tooth creates a flat profile with no "V" groove down the center of the teeth like you would see with a crosscut saw. When the wrong teeth profile is being used: Cross cut teeth when trying to rip: (JUST LIKE IN THE VIDEO) Results in very slow sawing as not much saw dust is created. Imagine trying to cut wood with the grain, as in ripping. Your tool is a knife, and the blade of the knife is running parallel with the grain and you are running the blade back and forth in a sawing motion. All the knife does is work to separate the grain of the wood, lots of friction is created between the edge of the blade and the wood fibers with little removal of wood. This is what is happening in the video. Hence why the ripping demonstration shows the cut going soooooooooooo slow with little saw dust. Ripping teeth when trying to cross cut: Results in the surface of the cut being fuzzy with wood fibers sticking out. These fiber sticking out on both sides of the kerf are rubbing against both sides of the saw plate, adding friction and making it more difficult to cut. Enjoy :)

[@alext9067]

@@TheLovie999 No. He's right. This is not a rip saw. The truth is trueness.

[@jishaku38]

paul morneault They have several ripsaw teeth. I have one.

[@alext9067]

Did you mean dissemination? Decimation is a different word.

[@909sickle]

Either no music or some traditional music would be much better.

[@8460437]

Instead of that plinky-plunky music play Chuck Berry.

[@marklewis4793]

...old Stones would b nice!..but it áint 'gonna happn,..lol

[@alext9067]

1:50s. That saw is not doing anything. It can't rip.

[@zulfikranzulmos4066]

I saw it too.. Maybe not putting enough pressure so it was a slow cut..

[@antoninbesse795]

A human narrator would make this video even better.

[@jagx234]

This saw is quite slow to cut. I make saws in the western style every day that cut faster and even more cleanly.

[@HondoTrailside]

The saw is a crosscut, and they are ripping with it at 2:00.

[@jagx234]

@@HondoTrailside you're correct, though the tooth angles are the same throughout the lineup. IIRC, the Acme 120 had the same kind of tooth shape, the only western saw I can come up with like that.(Discounting all modern induction hardened saw shaped objects) There's a much thinner angled file used for the Eastern style, versus the equilateral taper used for Western style, leaving a much larger gullet to clear out the scarf from the kerf. (Once the gullet is full the tooth no longer cuts, limiting speed severely) In all of the pull style saws I've seen, both hand filed and machine filed, the tooth is very aggressive on the rake angle, and the size of the tooth is what is modulated for dinner or coarser work. Edit to add, most of that applies to the smaller versions of woodworking saws, I saw some relaxed takes going on in here a bit.

[@clayface6485]

theres table saws now

[@sylvaingermanier98]

Table saw costs thousand et have an 260V plug. An Égoïne saw do the same job for 15 bucks

[@shahjohnsarwari1978]

That is good for working out, not for work, it’s too slow

[@sylvaingermanier98]

Sometimes if you cant move your table saw on the frame of a roof !

[@ДмитрийШиряев-ц1о]

ну такая себе дружба)

[@fabriziofabrizi5524]

Senza parole. Colplimemti ai Maestri.

[@G65t5]

@@fabriziofabrizi5524he meant that in Russia there is a friendship saw

[@АндрейЗемлекопович]

У меня половина двуручной советской пилы, сделал ручку, нарезал зубья, развел, заточил, уже 12 лет ею пилю дрова в лесу. Длина режущей части 65 см. Классический треугольный зуб, сухая акация или ясень при диаметре 35-40см перерезаю за 8-10 минут среднего темпа. Ширина пропила 2,5-3 мм. полотно пережило уже более 30 заточек. думаю ещё лет на 20 хватит его. Затачиваю маленькой болгарочкой, не перегревая зубья пилы.

[@iIiWARHEADiIi]

Zombie? Machete? No, did not heard. Only Madonoko Saw.

[@ДмитрийКапустин-е6й]

Не очень то и быстро они пилят. Единственное только - что пропил узкий...

[@fatimasipen8191]

The first thought that came when I was about to read comments l will meet same comments that is above from russians.

[@emmaperametsa4671]

What did this russian then say. Their alphabets arent that clear to understand.

[@flymasterA]

It's VEEEERRY SLOW! Sawdust is powder.

[@emmaperametsa4671]

I think they use the crosscut saw to split a piece of wood lengthwise. It s not ment to do that.

[@texasfossilguy]

Love the blade hate the handle...

[@yvessioui2716]

To note, that saw as teeth with no set, they all aligned with the back like most traditional japaneese saw.

[@2adamast]

Not setting the teeth with a hammer at 6:38 Apart from being short that's much of a 19th century western saw

[@maclaum4206]

No no, a los arboles vivos y de tantos años dejenlos vivir!!! Ya casi no existen arboles centenarios!!!!

[@Dajziopolis]

same music as granpas kitchen

[@zd5587]

Kinda makes me laugh to see them using electric machines to make a hand tool. 🧐

[@johnmontague69]

Man... Is this meant to be some sort of advertisement for this saw? Or are maybe a bit of therapeutic sawing noises and stuff flung in to capture the mind that it's a good thing? POWER TOOLS QUICKER CLEANER ALL DAY LONG.

[@remcovanvliet3018]

Fascinating subject matter. Highly inappropriate, super annoying music!

[@WoodworkingEnthusiasts]

yep, shame on me!

[@raeannuria5691]

This was kind of watching paint dry.

[@godbluffvdgg]

They have a new thing these days called a "band saw"...Look it up...

[@zd5587]

So why do they still use these after the electric saw was invented? It’ll take a lifetime to build a house with one of those.

[@MarciodosSantosLemes]

😑😑😑😑

[@1967250s]

Stop using that music!

[@musamor75]

I agree. It's not music, it's noise.

[@siriosstar4789]

The saw was moving about one millimeter per stroke , not exactly fast. Why would anybody use that much energy when an electric saw could do it in less than thirty seconds. I love japanese saws , but this is downright silly.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

Music sucks .. robot voice sucks .. saw sucks .. buy a chain saw!

[@joselisboasantoslisboa10]

😨👍😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😨👍

[@PujiLestari-jc7bu]

Blm sex

[@Denizozo1]

Бред!!

[@chabouyamoreno5258]

Quit cutting down our trees

[@chriswaters926]

Chabouya Moreno stop living in wooden houses.

[@Chain21SAW]

Chabouya Moreno just plant more trees , renewable resource

[@yardlimit8695]

chabouya,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why,,,,,,,,are you one of those stupid tree huggers'/./? i bet you live in a house made with wood,,,,,,,,,,,,,you have yours now stop cutting and the heck with the rest of the population.........you're an idiot.....probably a dumb liberal too..........