The Big Problems With Crunchyroll: How it Hurts Anime Subbing

[@andrewgerasimidis9123]

I can't believe that crunchyrolls translators are paid only $80 per episode. Translators need as much money as they can possibly get because translating is pretty difficult

[@ukuleila691]

especially since having good translations is crucial for the business considering how a very large majority of their customers don’t speak japanese

[@andrewgerasimidis9123]

@@ukuleila691 exactly, if you have a bad translation of a anime for example, it's impossible to convey the same meaning from the original staff.

[@alfreddrewes9362]

I knew that translators were not payed well, but I didn't know it was that bad.

[@baule4475]

since the average episode is 25 minutes they are paid only 3.2 dollars per minute

[@Loudshark_]

That just impossible to even survive day to day. With how much time they put into the sub, they should be pay more than that, as least around 1000$ for a day of subbing Edit : I think my comment wasn’t clear enough on the money part, and also the comment below talk about the salary they got so might as well change a bit ^^

[@duskyer2391]

Reasons why I pirate: Any money I would give to Crunchyroll doesn't even reach the original creators. (If it does, it's pennies) Sometimes anime I wanna watch aren't available. (Either they take it down, or it's not available in my region) Fansubs are always more accurate than "Official Subs"

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Exactly! Subscription based services in general are awful.

[@LizzieShiro]

I personally only pirate as a last resort. There’s a lot of anime out there that was never licensed. Also the anime I never finished was once on Crunchyroll, then was dropped off the site through weird licensing issues. I have no idea where to find it legally, and the manga was never brought over to the west. Still sad about that.

[@koweedate]

Agreed on the availability part

[@crinja404]

Another reason: Obsessive Fanboys and Fangirls

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

@@oinker1695 I don't know what you mean. Capitalism is the solution. These bastards have a monopoly. They need competitors. Competitors based on a purchase model instead of a subscription model.

[@cosmos2870]

Animators and translators are greatly under appreciated. They don’t get paid much, but still do it out of passion for anime.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Animator/animation is so underappreciated

[@devforfun5618]

everyone one that does anything for passion is underappreciated and explored

[@mello.1483]

@@devforfun5618 facts. They need more love 😔💕💕

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

Is it passion when they deliberately rewrite dialogue to inject western politics and contemporary issues that will age terribly?

[@nav6329]

@@MoreEvilThanYahweh Well, only official subs do that. Fansubs usually translate an anime 1-1.

[@Notllamalord]

Imagine being one of the few people with the borderline superpower of speaking Japanese and English well enough to translate media between them, and then getting paid slave wages

[@gingerbeargames]

I've done a bit of translation work for community game translations (jp > en), and it's way harder than I thought it'd be and I went in to it expecting it to be difficult. 80 bucks an episode should be a crime, except for one piece I guess since that's only 5 mins each ep.

[@KingoftheBashful]

Luffy is clearly the best anime protagonist because he inspired an entire generation to choose the life of a pirate.

[@ddjsoyenby]

if you don't pirate your wasting your liferate.

[@Thunderfang777]

I was sure that it was Funimation and Crunchyroll that inspired me to choose the life of a pirate, not Luffy. Even if I can afford anime streaming services, I want to see those two companies burn to the ground.

[@maymay5600]

🤣

[@thirtysixviews]

Do what you want cause a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

[@MoonmanMo22]

We out to Somalia boys 🏴‍☠️

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

I'd say piracy is justifiable when the media in question is very hard to purchase legally, or when the company who's selling the media is very scummy with their business practices or their treatment of employees.

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

or you are addicted to merch and whale on it. This is most applicable to gundam due to gunpla addiction.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

Like Funimation, basically. I cancelled my subscription with them after the Vic Mignogna fiasco.

[@graffitigoon4815]

@@TheChildofAuraReborn the only reason I still have my funimation account is because I watch dub and I know the money is at least going back to the English voice actors that I love. (Even though there are some I despise, coughs in monica rial)

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

@@graffitigoon4815 I would just pirate.

[@graffitigoon4815]

@@TheChildofAuraReborn I do pirate some shows like konosuba and pretty much all of my anime movies but otherwise I just use funi

[@rai_harn98]

Never trust Crunchyroll when it comes to "helping the industry"

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

They harm it.

[@hitkid2456]

In the beginning they really were just another piracy site.

[@Zalis116]

So why does the Japanese industry continue to agree to deals with CR? Do you honestly believe that Japanese companies are that stupid?

[@Zalis116]

@RandomName "jp not giving a shït outside of jp" Yet no one in "JP" has ever declared that to be their stance. It's just something that the anti-industry crowd and pirates more generally have assumed or made-up to rationalize their position and their actions. International sales made up 47% of the industry's revenue in 2019. Yes, worker mistreatment/underpayment is an issue, but taking money out of the industry doesn't solve that problem. Besides, it's pretty rich for those who enjoy the work of animators for free to cry crocodile tears over the poor exploited animators.

[@beanburrito4405]

Is it just me, or does anyone else always think of Crunchyroll’s logo as a giant orange eye?

[@poofpoof7752]

It’s kinda weird but great how versatile the logo is. It looks like an anime eye, the side of a sushi roll, and its circular design, or the eye lid, goes hand in hand with the first letter of the company. The last one is a bit of a reach but it’s pretty cool from a graphic design perspective how versatile the logo is :)

[@deanefromredhawk3304]

yep i saw that coming

[@kingofcards9]

The eye of Sauron is upon us

[@alphalax7747]

Reminds me of Turkey

[@Emma_The_H0ppin_H00ligan]

To me it looks like one of sailor moon's hairbuns lol

[@UnwantedGhost1]

*"If anything, contributing to Crunchyroll only really help them perpetuates this standard which is way below the minimum that should be given."* - Just Stop

[@princewellidk]

$80 is not that bad

[@MatthewCobalt]

@@princewellidk Try living of work from a single Anime with only a 12 episode season and you'll see.

[@dustydd]

@@princewellidk Ah I see you still live with your parents.

[@princewellidk]

@@dustydd because I'm a minor

[@dragondraws5458]

@@princewellidk bruh everyone knows 80 dollars is a terrible wage Using the 12 episode example you only make 960 dollars bro That's not enough to pay my aunt's rent

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

Crunchyroll Jojo: giant ugly shadows over gore, awkward Copyright FreeTM names like Shining Diamond in subtitles while the voice clearly says Crazy Diamond, the same fucking ad played 8 times per episode Pirated Jojo: literally none of those problems

[@rockhistoria2537]

Aren't those guys the ones who put "Deadly Queen" over Killer Queen?

[@lpk675]

The shadows aren't a Crunchyroll thing, that's a result of Japanese TV's own censorship.

[@Ramsey276one]

JoJo certainly IS a copyright nightmare for import/dub versions on names alone... Nothing else can be justified about THAT , though!

[@Lucien_M]

The times I tried to watch JoJo on Crunchyroll, I was sent into an ad loop and had to keep resetting the site

[@ZeroDiamond]

This is everywhere except pirated

[@aidan1931]

The polished website is just a copy and paste off of VRV, a streaming website they made. They also sabotaged a lot, if not all, of Webtoon anime by making them all 12 to 13 episodes when some needed more to make it have more either more character development scenes that are not in the anime that are in the manhwa or to add entire landscapes that were cut out entirely.

[@tuckerjohnston1844]

The webtoons versions are better than the anime versions.

[@aidan1931]

@@tuckerjohnston1844 Exactly

[@lordquaz7154]

I haven't read tower of God, but everywhere I look fans are complaining, and while I was watching it I always felt like I missed something important, or something was rushed.

[@s3studios597]

@@lordquaz7154 They crammed 79 40-ish page long chapters into 13 episodes, so yeah. For God of Highschool, it was apparently even worse with like 100+ chapters crammed into 12 episodes.

[@lordquaz7154]

@@s3studios597 I felt that. The events between the thrown game and the rase felt oddly rushed and didn't flow well. Also everything that had to do with the lizard girl just felt like it moved at break neck speed.

[@bigman_jo9985]

As a wise man want said. Yar har fiddly dee being a pirate is alright with me

[@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj]

do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate ☠

[@austin5259]

Crunchyroll isn't as bad as Funimation, which is true, but that's like saying sleeping on a bed of nails isn't as bad as swimming in lava.

[@vedritmathias9193]

If the US DOJ didn't put the brakes on the sale, Crunchyroll may as well have been watered-down Funimation

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@vedritmathias9193 , I’m a person born and raised in the United States, and even though I’m a legal United States citizen I still see CrunchyRoll as just a diet version of Funimation.

[@pekorokayu9488]

and coincidentally, the bed of nails consists of a single rusty knife

[@e-tean-son4146]

Funnily enough it's posible to sleep in a bed of nails, but it's kinda scary and not as cozy as an actual bed

[@austin5259]

@e-tean-son4146 yeah, I think I heard it's because of a distribution of pressure, the more nails the better, especially if they're more densely packed.

[@ITS_BUZZKILL]

I love videos talking about Crunchyroll even though half the ones I see are people complaining about *high guardian spice* instead of Crunchyroll as a whole

[@jadecoolness101]

It's a pretty mig thing to complain about. They are supposed to be spending the subscription money on licensing and "supporting the creators" but they spend it on their own garbage. Then CrunchyRoll Simps call people who pirate "thieves". Bruh, you're not paying the creators either, you're paying a company who gives PENNIES to the creator. A better way of supporting the creators is buying merchandise.

[@Tigershark_3082]

*laughs in enjoying anime that can only be found on pirated websites or youtube* Jesus shit, how did this comment get so many likes!?

[@calledtheywanttheirmemeback]

*laughs in 9Anime and Anime Kisa*

[@casablanca6754]

Laughs in experimental anime from the 80/90s

[@Tigershark_3082]

@@casablanca6754 *laughs in Area 88*

[@CosmicSponge2004]

I know I'm probably ruining a lauging party but, What piracy has the full subbed series of Powerpuff Girls Z? All 52 episodes. I've been trying to find it for days but I can't find anything.

[@ddjsoyenby]

truly the best way.

[@anipneuma4789]

The only problem of being a pirate is that the rum is always gone

[@spacehunternebulanm7003]

Fun fact: Crunchyroll STILL uses the Fist of the North Star fansub from all those years ago, as opposed to freelance. I'm not entirely sure if there are even more, since Fist of the North Star is pretty much the only anime considered old I've seen on Crunchyroll. (Edited for clarification)

[@Lulu_0809]

When I heard $80 dollars my face literally turned into this emoji: 😧 How do they even get by with that?

[@kxtbit]

no idea, it really is sad tho

[@Konata990]

you did not talk about the fact Crunchyroll censors the games

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

That's a really big deal. It was what made me secide to not sccept them.

[@koweedate]

That depends on which games are you referring to. Then again it may be better that Nexon

[@lordquaz7154]

And their anime.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Which games?

[@mattwo7]

@@lordquaz7154 What anime? CR doesn't localize any anime except their own and even that might be outsourced. If you look at the publishers listed on the video pages, those are the people who are responsible. Even then it was Viz who changed the names on Jojo's (or at least whoever is to blame, the name changes long predate the official subs) and are only even there to dodge ligation for using famous trademarks (which as it so happens, transcend the "same market" limitation), though I think some of the changes were Warner Japan's fault too, just like how the blame for the 4kids One Piece dub was mostly the network censors' and Viz's faults.

[@amirgarcia547]

Stuff like Crunchyroll and Funimation as well as how scummy they are nowadays is why I don’t have a problem…erm, finding alternative means to watching anime. Also, glad to see normal uploads from ya again after that like 5-hour Gintama video.

[@jasontodd2607]

The main problem is that both companies have no legit competition, so they've had no incentive to change their ways once people started complaining about them. They hold a monopoly on dubbing and distribution. If more companies came out promising to give more money to artists, animators, and translators, and to properly Dub anime without any political bullshit, I guarantee they'd be tripping over themselves trying to fix their shit.

[@gamerpie15]

My favorite Anime is Precure There are 12+ seasons and 15+ movies. Idk about funimation ( I doubt it’s better) but crunchyroll only has the first season and the most recent season (but it only has around 15 episodes of it). None of the other seasons,none of the movies. AMINEKISA HERE I COME

[@rokamayono2312]

Same

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

I dunno why but each time he shows that Game Grumps ad for Crunchroll, I get angry.

[@DragonbornCanid]

i feel weirdly similar, but Arin screaming "THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN DAN!!!" will never get old to me

[@lickilicky5288]

cuz game grumps post-jontron is quite shit

[@jadecoolness101]

Game grump went to hell after JonTron left

[@shimp9824]

@@lickilicky5288 really? in what way

[@lickilicky5288]

@@shimp9824 jontron was the backbone of that group and after he left, it felt empty

[@justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456]

honestly the BIG problem with crunchyroll is that its essentailly the only legal anime service outside of the us and has a BIG monopoly on said market

[@Raph___A]

Crunchyroll out here promoting Demon Slayer and refusing to actually stream the movie. Joke's on them, I just saw it! They ain't getting a penny from me!

[@milktea6676]

Bruh life be like that Also first furry

[@ruefysh9576]

@@milktea6676 NAH MAN I WAS HERE FIRST

[@koweedate]

Movie may not be out around that time. Also, possible licensing issues?

[@Orion_Alathorn]

this is likely a contract thing honestly, especially seeing as it's still in theaters in the west

[@mello.1483]

Lmao I deadass just went on Gogoanime for that 💀

[@EbonMaster]

Good to know that with that money they didnt use to pay translators, they were able to create High Guardian Spice.

[@Altern8One]

Yeah, I guess that all this money was certainly worth it to put on that "wonderful" series! FYI HGS has a lower User score on IMDB (1.8) than motherfucking *The Nutshack* (1.9)

[@jjandmj3689]

The name "Crunchyroll" sounds like a cafe

[@goatslayer3160]

Sounds like a nutty chocolate bar to me. And now I want one.

[@jjandmj3689]

@@goatslayer3160 same I want a Crunchyroll 😋

[@vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906]

hey does anyone know the faint bgm he used start at 14:41 ? i just cant remember but I feel I heard that one before please someone tell me!!

[@departingHyacinth]

@@vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906 It’s Ruins from the Undertale OST if I remember correctly

[@vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906]

@@departingHyacinth thx

[@Km-uf7gj]

Wanted to try Crunchyroll got 4 ads in 7minutes, yea i would rather be a pirate.

[@PokeBlox21]

Bro I watch Crunchyroll on the Wii U it doesn't even load any ads LMAO

[@Bighomie39]

@@PokeBlox21 true, but on the other hand you need a Wii U to do that, so you still lose. (Source: had a Wii U)

[@PokeBlox21]

@@Bighomie39 makes me glad I kept mine

[@eko9554]

I use an adblocker on Crunchyroll. It’s really not that hard to do.

[@luxo2309]

@@caveman_1 BRO I thought I was tripping when that happened to me recently. I'm about to stop paying for it.

[@trosinesss]

RIP Kissanime

[@maymay5600]

😭

[@CosmicSponge2004]

@HarBoterMan But no one knows they exist. Plus, there's some lost foreign English one piece dub that allegedly was available in it's entirety only on there.

[@mello.1483]

There’s literally 9anime, Gogoanime and so many more websites available. The government can’t catch em all 😂

[@Kodeb8]

nyaa.si has always been the best

[@awesome2927]

@@mello.1483 gogo LOL

[@war_hawkan1727]

God the ads are awful too. I have a busted ass TV that I can't change the volume to, so the anime is like almost the perfect volume, and then the ads come around and are literally 50 fucking times louder than the damn show

[@Dragonfist900]

2 years in, and STILL no evidence against Vic; not to mention the fact that Crunchyroll and sites like it may not have the particular series you may be looking for at the time

[@YokomichiSilver]

I've been seeing people mention that dude before. What exactly happened? Guessing it's legal issues because you did mention evidence.

[@Dragonfist900]

@@YokomichiSilver look up Rekeita Law; he has a whole series of videos on the situation

[@cjhenderson690]

@@YokomichiSilver Let's see... There is a number of videos already about it. I'm not an expert on the situation but it pretty much boils down to a number of accusations of sexual misconduct, grooming, homophobia, etc. from fans and other actors. Many of these can be easily picked apart and disputed. Despite this, Funimation threw Vic under the bus and cut ties with him.

[@s3studios597]

@@cjhenderson690 Some of those same funimation VAs were the ones who accused him in the first place.

[@TokisakiKuurumi]

@@YokomichiSilver it all started with an article calling Vic the pedo for hugging fans, and stuff, and they took images out of context, WITHOUT the permission of the fans who took the picture, a lot of them came out saying that they didn’t talk to this article, that they want their images removed but of course, no one listened to them. Voice actor Monica Rial came out against him saying he assaulted her or tried to at least, and her only witness debunked her claims. And has shown hypocrisy. Since her fiancé was accused of assaulting/ abusing his ex wife, and she victim blamed her :))) Her friend Jaime marchi told a girl on Twitter that she hopes she gets r-worded for not believing Monica. Chris Sabat never liked Vic mignogna so he was against him, and kept the situation going. But when got called out for liking images of underage cosplayers almost naked it was all quiet :))) I hate this situation because it shows the double standers and hypocrisy. Still to this day the only evidence they have is images of him hugging fans, and kissing them in forehead for pictures, which was very common with many celebrities back in the day.

[@ScottE-2]

Great vid... christ. Fucking H-manga translators get paid by commission better than Crunchyroll does its freelancers. What a crazy time... essentially the people who translate the episodes earn a flat $80 USD per episode. I can't name a lesser job that pays $80 per work load aside from art commissions I suppose.

[@vedritmathias9193]

Hell, even art commissions earn more per load. Source: My wife, who charges 100 USD and up for pretty much anything but sketches. In the past year, she has earned more money than I have (which isn't all that fair, because I can't work due to covid)

[@heroslippy6666]

@@vedritmathias9193 i gotta ask, what sort of job cant exist because of covid?

[@luxo2309]

@@heroslippy6666 I think jobs that aren't considered essential?

[@heroslippy6666]

@@luxo2309 Essential is determined on time scale, the moment you go beyond 2 weeks, every job becomes essential.

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

If it takes two hours to translate an episode, that's 40 an hour which is very high.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

I can't help but think about the poor overworked & underpaid staffs receiving the short end by all of this when it comes to Crunchyroll.

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

And here I was thinking that my Crunchyroll subscription was contributing real funding to the peole who slave away creating new episodes of my favourite Crunchyroll-exclusive show "This show is not available in your country due to licencing issues", man these light novel titles are getting long.

[@microwave8931]

Isekai names be like

[@bille7359]

The fact that I learned there's a season 2 for saga of Tanya the evil from a couple second clip of crunchyrolls new web format kinda annoys me

[@DarwiniaShock]

Bro there's a second season of Tanya?

[@ophilia]

there only 1 season + a movie

[@awesome2927]

@@mystixgemzvods its coming out soon

[@luxo2309]

How do you think I felt when I learned Kaguya-sama had a second season that wasn't available on Crunchyroll? I literally had to find a pirate website to watch it.

[@purplehaze2358]

I don’t even like anime and I watched this 17-and-a-half minute-long video about an anime service all the way through. JS just presents the topics he covers so well that I can safely say his appeal stems from something completely separate from the topics he covers.

[@Jawsomest]

Things Dr. Bright is not allowed to do at the funimation. 1. Like the website. (also yes ik this video is about crunchyroll it just sounds better to say funimation cuz it sounds more like foundation

[@jailcatjones3250]

I remember buying a dbz DVD at best buy for almost $30, practically $10 an episode. Manga was the same when the anime boom started

[@acmeanvil3022]

I love the inclusion of "A Hat in Time" music. That's one of my favourite games ever. The video itself was also very informative.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

You can't be "victim blame-y" if someone's not a victim.

[@kdash2657]

Exactly.

[@tikalthewhimsicott2736]

That's what I was thinking too. Tf JS

[@CyonisCyberFox]

Finally, we have a Crunchyroll video not about High Guardian Spice

[@Kuru20134]

To be fair recent videos about Crunchyroll haven’t mention high guardian spice for while but back when the show was announced there were tons of videos about it

[@eriklazo5499]

@@Kuru20134 starting to think that show was just some awful prank from the company because it has been i believe 2 maybe 4 years since it was announced

[@LizzieShiro]

Still waiting on that show.

[@Xo-3130]

@@LizzieShiro the creator did say we should hear something about it... honestly its probably canned but what are you going to do.

[@microwave8931]

Good news guys

[@Katanagatari-b2o]

Griffith did nothing wrong, Crunchyroll did.

[@javy6971]

Ah yes...said by Griffith himself

[@Katanagatari-b2o]

@@javy6971 Love me or hate me, you gotta admit, I'm spitting fax

[@mattwo7]

0:51 I can't really blame you for getting info from the Vic situation wrong when you're really only ever going to get one heavily biased side of the story from any given source, like the one you mentioned.

[@richiejobro5639]

Seriously, that entire situation was a trainwreck.

[@dcscruz2970]

The only true thing is that he is an ass to staff in cons

[@wiktoriaj4329]

One of the things that has royally annoyed me about crunchyroll, was how at some point, anime that I know I had previously watched on their platform had suddenly become completely inaccessible to me because it was no longer available in my region. I used to have a subscription, but after the prices bumped up (although not by much) and after seeing that anime was slowly disappearing off their site (in my region), I never resumed. I'm truly hoping a genuine service that would pay good wages to both the translators, animators, as well as the studios the anime came from will pop up in the near future.

[@alexiskuwata]

If you haven't mentioned this. At the beginning of Crunchyroll's life, it was a pirate anime site.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Oh how the mighty have fallen

[@mello.1483]

😳

[@luxo2309]

It was the first thing he said 😂

[@lugoorstar]

@@luxo2309 he said that it was a site in wich a group of fandubbers uploaded episodes. yes piracy, yes illegal, but at least they idk asked you for money making it legit?

[@UnwantedGhost1]

*"Please support the official release."* - Team Three Star

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

People that support the official release after seeing fan made parodies like Dragon Ball Z Abridged always buys the manga box sets or buying the merchandise, so that way the animation studios can continue make series like One Piece or Dragon Ball Super, so there’s no reasons as to why Team 4 Star to accept a CrunchyRoll sponsor other than the fact that they’re avarice and don’t really give a shit about animators/manga artists in Japan.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Oh I will. Through merch not affiliated with funi

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 , One Piece manga box sets keeps getting sold instantly, so it seems that buying the manga box sets really does help the anime industry more than paying for CrunchyRoll and Funimation.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr is it through viz. I don't trust them much. I like what they do with jojo in fact I've watched the series through tubi, not a pirate site. But when it comes to stuff like dragon ball I can't get behind them on that department. I've been working on my Japanese because I don't trust the localizers, if it weren't for them I wouldn't even bother other than a few greetings when I vacation there

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 , the box sets are from Viz, but so far the only two mistranslations I’ve seen in the Viz manga series is changing Zoro into Zolo and changing Laugh Tale into Raftel.

[@NotSoProfessionalGuy]

I remember using pirating services back when I was 13 and thought that this was the norm for watching anime tbh. Also I never knew that translators were paid that little per episode. Here's a video suggestion though, more posed as a question, do you think effort is even required on KZbin anymore?

[@UnwantedGhost1]

They should hire you to improve their layouts, business practices, and public reputations. If only that was the case.

[@mattwo7]

So how long before Mother's Basement makes a response video to this?

[@maymay5600]

Give it a day or so, I know he's gonna respond for sure

[@Xo-3130]

@ERIC CAO the guys a hypocritical corporate shill.

[@legs0fsteel]

I had a premium account for a year and every season pretty much half the series i was going to watch weren't available in the EU where i live. So i'm not paying full price and using half the product. Imagine walking into a subway paying for a sandwich only to be allowed to just eat half of what you paid for.

[@abrahamlincoln1217]

Fun fact if your on the mobile version you can turn your wifi off right before the adds and skip them like that.

[@MatthewCobalt]

I feel like I'm having a bit of Deja Vu. Didn't this thing become a talking point for everyone in the surface Anime Community about two years ago, to the point that even a single individual could nearly rip apart everyone's moral arguments? *Uniquenameosaurus voice echoes*

[@EonTheAien]

Our man's still encouraging us to take up a bottle of rum and a steering wheel. Godspeed.

[@glorioustigereye]

Honestly I’d love to see more translator notes. Maybe have a toggle function or something but I love learning little factoids that I wouldn’t normally care about. It’s a highlight for early gintama, Touhou and my dive into vtubers (which are way harder to translate).

[@milktea6676]

It’s fine I just watch my anime from a pirate website 🏴‍☠️

[@UnwantedGhost1]

Argh! 😉🦜

[@violentlydehydratedin3d709]

Who doesn't

[@Jimraynor45]

Please only pirate subbed anime. Dubs need support.

[@ophilia]

@@Jimraynor45 yup the only dub i watch (Girls und Panzer german dub) i always buy on blu-ray

[@unamused2158]

I was watching the subbed Yu-Gi-Oh GX anime a few months back, and the website I was using was missing a few episodes. I went to search for the subbed anime in other websites, and Crunchyroll was the ONLY place that I was able to find the subbed version, and oh boy, those were the longest 3-4 episodes I have ever watched from a single anime. There were at least 6 ads before the episode began and another 6 at the middle. By god, 12 fricking ads in a single episode, not to mention that in the first of those that I watched, the subtitles had a 2 or 3 second delay. Suffice to say, I'm never using Crunchyroll ever again, unless I'm VERY desperate.

[@Maxler5795]

At this point im just saying "fuck it" and im learning japanese.

[@LovelyTekki]

I've been thinking of getting rid of my crunchyroll for a while since I had my suspicions about them. (Namely, I was starting to question how much my money goes to support lesser-known titles like Iruma-Kun and if my subscription REALLY went to anyone) and this video helped me make up my mind. I'm disgusted by how much they underpay translators as well. Thank you so much for making a great, informative video. 👍

[@bina7513]

I definitely find this informative. I was not aware of Crunchyroll's past and what stemmed from. I will say, I never used Crunchyroll because I prefer dub over sub (with English subtitles). The reason being is that I am a multitasker and I have problems with sensory processing issues that stem from my autism and ADHD. You could say "the sky is blue" and I my brain would translate that into "the shoe flew" because my brain is pretty much Windows ME (in that my brain failing to process something is akin to Windows ME crashing - it happens all the time and it frustrates me and people around me that it constantly happens). However, that explains only the English subtitles, which I even try to have on even original English language shows that I watch (shows like _"The Blacklist," _"Criminal Minds," _"Perception"_ and _"NCIS."_ I only watch those shows because they're something that my mom watches and I watch it to spend time with her). The English dub preference is attributed to my ADHD and multitasking. However, if there is no way to watch a dub, I will watch the English sub and be fine doing so (just missing out on things here and there because of my multitasking, ADHD, and the Japanese spoken dialog confusing my brain a tiny bit (to which I just shrug my shoulders to and carry on)). Back on topic, I do hope Crunchyroll one day does make effort to truly help the underpaid staff that put in so much hard work into anime. It's unfortunate that the world we inhabit has people who put so much hard work into things like anime and video games (especially looking at you EA and Ubisoft) and not get a salary that can barely feed a one person, perhaps a small, two to four-person family if they're lucky. However, I will, boycotting won't help these people because that's even less money to trickle down to those who are underpaid in the anime and video game industries (just to name a few industries). And less money also means layoffs, so these underpaid workers could lose their jobs as they are usually the first to go. At the same time, there are also things so atrocious that the higher ups do (looking at you again Ubisoft) that are so bad that it makes one sick to even purchase anything. All I will say is, boycotting is hypocritical in that even companies like Nestlé (one of the most hated companies ever worldwide) have done abhorrent atrocities (like pumping 200 gallons of freshwater out of Flint, Michigan that the residents needed most during the Flint Michigan water crisis, which is the crisis that killed 12 people and hospitalized 87 people, caused children a ton of biological problems (I.e. hair loss, formation of skin lessions, blindness from taking baths, etc.). Unfortunately, at the same time, we all need water and Nestlé owns pretty much all the world's water one way or another (through the main companies and subsidiaries and maybe via water bills that people pay). So either way, one can't say "just boycott them," because there are some companies that just can't be boycotted unless oneself wants to die of thirst or starvation. And boycotting can cause innocent people to lose their jobs, thus potentially making those people at risk of thirst and starvation, especially if that was the only job that would hire them. Needless to say, hypocrisy is unfortunately inevitable and it is important to be aware of it and be able to acknowledge when it could cause a problem in making arguments. However, I will say even hypocrites can have a point, just like how jerkasses can have a point (TvTropes reference, but it is true). These things are just super messy and makes doing the morally right thing, and much more knowing what is the morally right response, very, very, very difficult.

[@catholiccontriversy]

Glad you talked about legal options that are better than crunchyroll, because when the argument is "and therefore you should watch it illegally" results in no legal options working to be better and possibly resulting in lower legal availability. I know pennies on the dollar support is not much to work with, but it's more favorable than the 1 dvd sale that was made to make the fansub, so it's a lose lose.

[@kdash2657]

I remember 2006 Crunchyroll. It beat watching Popular Anime of the Mid-2000s [Part 1/3] on 2006 KZbin. That's the last time I ever cared about them.

[@mattwo7]

5:09 GBF was released on the official GundamInfo KZbin channel. It's more morally ethical to watch it there than Crunchyroll. Even if not by much.

[@goldmemberpb]

The new beta completely lacks seasonal anime list and the schedules. It went for this awful endless list system that Netflix does which doesn't exactly work for anime. There is also no calendar to see any upcoming shows. You basically have to guess when a show airs and even then, it doesn't show in the beta version of CR. That 10 year old design actually works pretty well and now, we are forced to move to the beta in a week or so.

[@red3994]

Well looking at this now the forces combined, and not for the better Funiroll is now the future. So grim, so true, so real.

[@lordquaz7154]

I can buy an Omnimon Model kit and more money will be given to the people that made the Digimon reboot than watching it on crunchyroll. That's why even though I am a pirate, I buy official merch at any opertunity I am given, because I at least know where that money is going.

[@Ramsey276one]

Good one!

[@maxh7085]

This is why the best way to support studios and animators you like is to just buy the blu rays. Most of it goes directly into their pocket and you get something physical out of it. Not to mention many studios uses their DVD sales to gauge how popular a series is and whether or not they will get a second season(most of the time).

[@Splater765]

The worst thing Crunchyroll ever did was remove season one of Love Live! School Idol Project but not season two. Like, it hurts just looking at it

[@ddjsoyenby]

never forget what they took from you!

[@BitchChill]

Weeb

[@Splater765]

I may be a weeb but I’m a proud one god dang it!

[@goldacidanimations5247]

Sounds similar to Crunchyroll removing Working!! seasons 1 to 3 but keeping the spin-off.

[@BitchChill]

@@Splater765 You shouldn't be

[@josiahagin2100]

Excellent video. Glad you were able to release this video.

[@OmegaZyion]

For $80 per episode, it's no wonder why fansubs are often far superior over the official subs. There's no way anyone would give a damn about the job they're doing if they are getting paid less than a minimum wage burger flipper.

[@Zalis116]

Fansubs don't exist for any series that gets same-day legal subs.

[@tombolt13thexehanort29]

7:30 the very fact that they are doing it legally is the real only strength needed. Having a chance for money to reach the animators beats nothing at all. Crunchyroll can't really control what the distributors do with the money, but the very fact that the money goes to the people who own the rights is enough justification to use it. It would be great for crunchyroll to donate to anime dormitory, but charity isn't a requirement, that is what makes it charity. They could pay their translators more, but that doesn't justify illegally watching the shows.

[@DoctorMario606]

Loving the anime centered content bruh.

[@ZeOHKay]

I also distinctly remember them going full Ion Storm and getting a new, massively expensive and lavish office instead of trying to even pay their translators the average rates. It's ridiculous, and I hope that decision comes back to bite them in the ass someday.

[@acube771]

Funny enough the crunchyroll on my television already had the new layout for at least a year (as that is when I began using it)

[@gingerbeargames]

I hope more studios/franchises follow in gundam's footsteps. They have a youtube channel where they are putting up even the old series/movies. All subbed and free to watch.

[@liammcnicholas918]

W

[@peterga3658]

now days we have so so many FREE sites it make no sense on paying to watch something especially when the talked site DOESNT have all the anime ALSOOOO the worst thing of all its not ads or sht like that its the CENSORSHIP AND LAG !!!!!!

[@NancyDLaw]

I can't agree more 100% ....

[@norakaleni7409]

Yeap... They have a lot more problems as an App/site in general but yes these 2 are top...

[@karthikbalamurugan7390]

Nowadays when I watch a crunchy roll ad it just freezes on the ad and then I have to refresh and watch the ad again

[@banzaialex5984]

actually there are some valid reasons casting to t.v and virus/porn ad paranoia

[@marzh1073]

Crunch Troll also has region lock and licensing issues as well whereas you won't face the same issue with other sites. It's crazy to think the original naruto series wasn't on there until around 2015

[@rocker_starss]

One massive problem I have with Crunchyroll is that the apps code for LG phones somehow mess with them and the phone stars being slow at loading

[@cardplayer21]

Your Funimation video is very informative. No need to apologize for it!

[@StardustNovaChannel]

2:04 Hey, I know that website.

[@bislay]

Shuush

[@eriklazo5499]

yeah me too but i forgot the name

[@UnwantedGhost1]

@@eriklazo5499 It's best you keep it that way to avoid unwanted attention. If you know what I mean.

[@dynamosaurusimperious2718]

Well this is another awesome JustStop video about a certain company of person. Also I wish y'all amazing people a great day.

[@Raf8347]

You should make a video on Sony, particularly the Playstation brand which has been doing a lot of stupid things these days...

[@AshleyHope4More]

That comment at the start about trying to do better on sensitive subjects made me click the subscribe button ♥

[@khairulhafiz2002]

Average "people who paid services in Crunchyroll, Funimation or any popular streaming services to watch anime" fan vs average "people who watch anime for free in KZbin like Muse Asia" enjoyer.

[@mariokarter13]

The problem with "legal" anime in the west is that it's basically a monopoly. If you don't like Crunchyroll, just go to Funimation, did I mention they're both owned by Sony?

[@domdude491]

I'm okay with everything you said except for the fact EX-ARM is the best Crunchyroll original

[@xx-jk1iq]

Isn't it?

[@koweedate]

Source material is good according to some

[@ScirioBirdLover]

Me when i get the same 5 ads 3 times in a row 5 times in 1 chapter 🗿

[@NealCamerlengo]

This is why I roll my eyes when AnimeAmerica mentions CrunchyRoll as one of the "legal" sources to watch an anime. Edit; Crunchyroll is the Bleem of anime. For those who don't know Bleem was one of the first emulators for the Sony Playstation which charges you.

[@maymay5600]

I believe they are under contract to say it!

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@maymay5600 , you could just have the balls to say fuck you to a company like CrunchyRoll like what Mysterious Mr.Enter, E;R, ItsaGundam, and Just Stop does because if you’re an unbiased reviewer like those people are, and them suggesting which anime series are enjoyable to watch and which ones to avoid like the plague then KZbinrs like AnimeAmerica can’t say they have the mighty high ground over KZbinrs that I just mentioned.

[@Ramsey276one]

14:45 Excuse meWUT WAS THAT A DRAG QUEEN?! Or just a VERY *EXTRA* cosplay??

[@monicareyes1712]

I thought you did a great job talking about Vic in the funimation video

[@rogercheetoofficial]

fun tip; if you love an artist who worked as an animator on a show where you loved how the animation turned out, see if they have a pen name or at least do independent work, then if they offer art or self-published manga for sale, you can buy it (big time to do this is around comiket) and support them directly, this is much more efficient than hoping crunchyroll kind of maybe gets the money to someone whose work on a show you liked

[@kyotheman69]

most cases i find that fansubs are more close to what they are saying to Japanese then crunchy roll or funimation ever be, especially funimation when they love changing context because of woke bullshit or censorship

[@Zoogore6777]

I have the free account so I get the ads. I don’t mind ads, it’s just they show the same one three in a row EACH break. It also causes errors forcing me to close the app fully which means starting over four or five time and only getting to see the ads. Super frustrating. 😤

[@PlatinumSperms]

If the anime ain’t on Hulu or Netflix well time to sail the high seas!

[@spongebobplushiestuff8612]

They on both services, but unsub netflix for that movie

[@BitchChill]

Same for me

[@jemma927]

Kind of ironic in a way. We are kinda told that we shouldn't pirate anime or manga yet Crunchyroll was a literal pirate site in the beginning and there is little to no manga so if you want to read for example Hanako Kun or Komi Can't communicate, you'd either have to find a store or a site that sells it or pirate it online. And tbh, their website layout is a mess and their stock on manga and movies is just horrid

[@GinsuSher]

Lol. I still remember the day Crunchyroll turned "legit". They did it over new years and nuked a lot of user uploaded videos. I still haven't finished watching eyeshield 21. 😅😅😅

[@pepekovallin]

The biggest problem when you're trying to make a change is that it doesn't matter if you know your value and what is a shitty deal, if you refuse a job because you know you SHOULD be getting more, the company will just make up an excuse as to why you're unreasonable because they can easily find weaker naive person that will accept said deal because they at least can buy a cup noodles and survive, it's honestly disgusting and I can't help but feel a bit pissed with those employees, but you honestly can't blame people for accepting any deal, specially nowadays after a global crisis

[@theprettiestonehere]

Crunchyroll: alright folks. I'mma roll out

[@MonkofVibes]

I've hated Crunchyroll since it was made what's the point in buying a product worse that pirating it and now its defenders dont even have the "sUpPoRt ThE cReAtOr" argument

[@AmondoDazz]

You should've: Let's roll out

[@AndrewAshbaugh]

A very business friendly, yet Simple Idea: A paid anime service that per each minute watched, gives you $0.001 in a dedicated site wallet. Then, when enough is accumulated, can be used to directly fund the animators of a specific studio that you can choose from a list.

[@chaimeu]

I miss kissanime smh

[@hellnaw7921]

there are better sites bro

[@UnwantedGhost1]

@@hellnaw7921 Please don't name then for some fun police to snitch on them. 😫 👃

[@purelysmetalnightcore]

It's still around. It's the only site that posts Thunderbolt Fantasy so I am grateful for it. Only good thing CR has done is sub Thunderbolt Fantasy.

[@Kuru20134]

look up animesuge

[@amirgarcia547]

At least 9anime is still around and is way better (don’t have to fill out a captcha just to watch the next episode, which’s what eventually turned me away from it even before it got nuked.)

[@yurazah]

one think i hate in subs is when they dont translate Japanese text that shows up on screen half the time, so i just miss tons of important info.... fansubs never just blatantly ignore something they should be translating

[@nickreynolds1890]

is there any viable alternatives to crunchyroll or funimation?

[@pie6029]

Piracy is always an option

[@spongebobplushiestuff8612]

@@pie6029 I know this isn't anime, but what site as all of the new veggietales show episodes, WCO only has like 5-6 episodes, when's there's currently about 13 episodes aired, and for then to add the new episodes when they come out

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Nick Reynolds, the best alternative if you don’t support piracy is by buying the manga box sets and buying the merchandise because CrunchyRoll and Funimation’s business practices are worst than piracy.

[@Jimraynor45]

Funimation has it issues, but at least it puts in a good effort. The best way to watch anime, is to buy the dvds. If you cant do that, then watch what you can on hulu, netflix and etc. There is a way, do your best to support their work.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@Jimraynor45 , I even bought a figure of Luffy from the current Wano Arc besides the three out of four manga box sets of One Piece, so yes I know what I’m talking about whenever it comes to the anime and manga industry.

[@Ranmus]

I remember an uproar with certain site starting with F and ending with U basically wanting to be the crunchyroll of H*. Wonder what happened to them?

[@akuji330]

Good video but I have to say that you shouldn't say that pirated streaming sites are better when most of them are fill with ads, you are better of just torrenting the anime. Also, I remember seen somewhere that Toei anime are usually subbed in-house but I don't have source for that.

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

They are free though and there are also some with no or very few ads

[@itsjustvin7630]

as long as they arent popup ads

[@Thanatos2996]

The new desktop site is fine, but the roku app is still horrendous. It took months to even be semi-usable after the update to the new look, and to this day I constantly have to quit out when it freezes and try again. The way they organize dubs as seasons is also infuriating, especially because it is a massive pain to get back to the language you actually want on the app (start playing the wrong episode, hit back at the right time to get to the episode list, and wait for the season names to slowly scroll across to where you can see which actual season and language it is).