The BIGGEST MISTAKE On Roundabouts

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In this video, I show you one of the biggest mistakes on roundabouts. The driving fault is on lane discipline.
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[@osamamahmood7932]

Pin, your videos and ultimate driving course really helped. Passed my 3rd attempt..

[@pinchyh]

The problem is a lot of markings on roundabouts are faded, especially when you are in the middle

[@blueninjanoname7338]

True, although she wanted the second exit and so you should really keep to the left as much as possible as you're coming off.

[@keith6400]

Yes, you need to allow appropriate space for lanes of traffic as you go round.

[@Sick_Pencil]

Third-world countries: What markings??

[@LICKSTERxx]

There's one in Derby last time I drove round it there was no markings it was bedlam

[@SuperLittleTyke]

That's if you're lucky to have lane markings at all. It's not just pothole repairs the government is scrimping on, but lane markings generally, not just on roundabouts. It's a sorry state for a country, supposedly the fifth-richest, to not afford proper road maintenance. Go to Germany, for example, and the roads are 1000% better. Still, after Brexit, we are desperately trying to become a third-world country, I suppose...

[@keithmartland6463]

As a motorcyclist for over fifty years, i found the biggest problem with driving today is no body indicates, or if they do, just at the last miniute, so well done on your skills showing how it should be done

[@wonkylogic]

The problem with lanes is lack of signs ahead of junctions. Road markings just before a junction are useless when cars are obscuring them. Leads to confusion on approach unless you know the junction. As for roundabouts specifically people dont indicate correctly or spiral outwards correctly.

[@neonk2222]

I have my test tomorrow please send good energy my way! Really hope I can stay calm as I struggle with panic attacks.

[@DGNDriving]

Good luck

[@neonk2222]

I PASSED just got home now absolutely buzzing. Think I got about 3/4 minors

[@hannahjewell6013]

Hi Pin, you explain everything so well. I struggle to process road signs and road markings in time to get into the right lane at roundabouts. Would love a video on this please!

[@peepiepo]

In my experience, a lot of that came just from practising. Eventually enough of what I was doing was coming naturally or automatically, so I had more mental space to process signs and markings.

[@vickynewnham261]

A friend told me to stay in the right hand lane and go round the roundabout three times if you have to until you find the exit you want

[@Kholaslittlespot1]

Just remember the 12oclock rule. If your exit is past 12oclock on the clock face you'll want the right lane. If it's straight on (and there is a middle lane) you'll want the middle one. If you're going left, it's the left lane! Once I had that locked into my head the rest followed pretty quickly.

[@mikebreen2890]

Some of the roundabouts here in the north east are just ridiculous, designed to cause accidents. Oh sure it would be fine if everybody knew where the lane went but the markings were last seen in 1997.

[@alexwood7218]

Passed my test on Tuesday on my 1st attempt with 2 minors. your videos really helped me get to where I am now so thanks a lot Pin.

[@mrd4032]

Thank you. A bug bear of mine is exiting off from mid to left lane, doing so deprives those turning left from proceding.

[@OFCOURSE20]

Just remember one rule STAY IN YOUR LANE. CHANGE WHEN IT'S SAFE! THIS COULD BE AFTER THE ROUNDABOUT IF NEEDED.

[@Hickerz]

I have my test tomorrow afternoon and I’ve been watching your videos for a while!

[@shnclashes2919]

Good luck.❤️👌

[@arabninja209]

Good luck hope you smash it lad

[@Adam-de8yi]

Good luck man I hope you pass, all blessings

[@manuelstringer4889]

Pin, a big Big thank you for your channel, content and my new fresh driving shoes. I passed 1st time with 1 minor after 20+ years of not driving, or at least learning to. I was 18 when I last drove a car. Last year I did my theory which I passed in the August. Lessons recommenced in the September and my test was this week. My driving instructor was a great help which i appreciate but equally we're your videos and the continuous reminders contained within. Thank you so much for all your hard work and to have added (and continue to add) that extra layer to making me a safe, competent and confident driver. 🙏🏾

[@Kholaslittlespot1]

As a fellow mature learner, well done! I hope my test goes that smoothly.

[@tomwilson9024]

Thanks Pin! Very clear instruction.

[@RexxSchneider]

At that particular roundabout your best strategy is to choose the middle lane, which is marked for A463 only, as that should leave nobody in any doubt about your intended exit. The problem with using the left lane is twofold. First, that lane has a choice of two destinations, Coseley Road and Black Country Route (A463) so the traffic always tails back in that lane, but traffic moves more smoothly if drivers can join the island from each of the three lanes when a gap arises. Second, when you set off onto the roundabout in the left lane, you allow the traffic joining from Coseley Road to imagine that you might be leaving on the first exit (Coseley Road) and when you keep tight on the left - as you must - a car ready to join from Coseley Road may have its view of you blocked and be tempted to pull out in front of you. Just review from 1:41 to 1:44 and see how the black car can't see you because of the white one and almost comes out into your path. In fact, they stopped so late that they encroached on the island and left you with only just enough space to complete your manoeuvre safely. Look how close you are to their front quarter at 1:46. You simply don't invite that problem when using the middle lane. Defensive driving makes life easier for everyone.

[@rincymolyohannan3090]

Hi Pin, I love your videos.. great content. Passed 1 st time . Your videos definitely helped. Thank you very much.

[@itzfrenchieboy661]

That was very helpful now I know how to deal with roundabout thank you for this video

[@EC4U2C_Studioz]

One of the more significant issues of this is when there is more than one exit to the left which often confuses drivers thinking a single left arrow is used for the first exit only.

[@ActuallyAudacity]

Yeah I think more people need to think about the 12 o'clock technique where you can pick the left lane (usually) if the exit is less than 12 o'clock.

[@patrickcarroll5342]

Thanks for the great tips Patrick Ireland

[@peepiepo]

I remember failing my first test for drifting across like this. If only I'd had videos like this when I was learning!

[@garythompson9452]

Top man. very informative videos. Thanks for your efforts

[@CTX-wh5qu]

Wow, praise to you my friend, I am not 'knocking' your learner driver as the clue is in the name 'learner', but WHY do so many qualified drivers get this wrong ?. I was taught this not only on my lessons back in the 80's but also a Police driver training in 1990, "where possible, always exit the roundabout in the same lane as you entered"...... Big thumbs up.

[@Isobel201]

its an all too common thing, I find myself holding back now when there's other traffic in the lane next to me because it happens so often to have someone suddenly turn up in front of you.

[@davidgrahambrown3793]

Thank you, much appreciated.👍

[@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv]

I approach roundabouts in exactly the way you demonstrate. Not far from where I live there's a busy roundabout where I usually approach in the left lane as I take the 2nd exit off the roundabout similar to what you did here. Almost every time I do this I find there's some idiot approaching the roundabout in the right hand lane wishing to turn left and either cutting across me to do so or if they can't turn blasting me with their horn!

[@MrQasimali5]

Thx for informative video👍🏻👍🏻

[@beecat9951]

I thought I was the only person making this mistake! This was so helpful, thank you

[@abishekpaul3085]

Excellent educational videos. Keep up the great work. Please do a spiral roundabout.

[@riadhchoudhury9584]

He has

[@kenmayfield3739]

Hmm that’s all very well, but few roundabouts in the UK are constructed in a sensible way, let alone clearly signed . Then there’s the issue of fast moving vehicles driven by people doing their own thing. Oh for a perfect world !

[@johnkeepin7527]

Yes - but a lot depends on the actual layout. There are some roundabouts where the left lane is left exit only, with the next one (lane 2) being something else, either straight on only, or either way, or it might widen out into two lanes on the roundabout, and so on. A typical example of this is around 51°52'56.3"N 2°14’15.8"W . In that case, the “left only” lane arrows start a long way back, westbound on the A40 - mainly aimed at rush hour traffic, I suspect. Always pays to learn the route if unfamiliar, as it varies a lot - especially if they have just altered it all! Of course, lane lines tend to fade out due to lack of maintenance, and painted arrows are alright when there is not much traffic!

[@jhareng]

It dont help when councils dont alter the older proper driving layouts on actual island but tell you to go to lane 2 to go straight on or right. Then find stranded in lane 2 round the island when vehicles already moving out because your not in lane 1. Same applies round unmarked islands wide enough for 2 vehicles, self righteous instead of waiting in lane 2 right lane to turn right come up on inside and take what would be lane 1 round the island where you cant get over. Also seen them from lane 1 pull straight in front to block the correct procedure round island.

[@al-anoud-123]

Thank you! very helpful :)

[@engr.faizalikhan4942]

very helpful ❤️

[@ngupta99]

It will be great to see and learn stuff, small advice if you can also put a video clip for the rear will be helpful to understand the safe gap for signal.

[@user-ls2oq6ne1c]

This video was absolutely helpful. Stephen Singh - Bristol - England.

[@darkdonzaloog]

Nearby here theres a roundabout with the most unnatural driving lines. Before it was changed the only issue was the lines were faded but when it was redone they changed the layout. I do think theres a lot of roundabouts with really degraded road markings which does make it far harder to figure out at a glance where the edges of the lanes are.

[@newtech1021]

Thank you brother ❤️👉👉❤️❤️❤️

[@lewis72]

The problem with passing a roundabout exit when in the left lane is that a car just behind you, having travelled further round the roundabout, may cross into you. I've always thought that the best approach is to move to the outside lane of the roundabout just after the exit before you intend to leave. That may not be the way it is in the highway code but it'll stop cars driving into each other.

[@ColinWatters]

A common mistake I come across is with tall cars like Range Rovers going onto a roundabout too fast to stay in their lane.

[@ashe8263]

Thanks !!

[@Kholaslittlespot1]

The roundabouts I dont like are the ones where you have to change from the centre disk to the far left lane before exiting.

[@mightvedroppedjury5324]

You see the problem we’re i live is there is literally no markings anymore on the ground now for correct lanes / directions as the faded away

[@andrewhiggins8873]

I have been round that exact roundabout 1000s of times and as you say the problem is lane discipline. the problem being everyone want to overtake on the island

[@paulop3730]

Lane is disapline is easy when the roundabouts are actually have lanes. The markings in the video were either very faded or non-existant.

[@a.856]

Thanks

[@Daxman360]

Thanks for the video. What's the best ADI Theory/Hazard Perception app/website/subscription for part 1 of the test?

[@malcolmmckinlay2143]

Try the roundabout Junction 8 Burtonwood services

[@danielpowers2191]

Gotta love bilston roundabouts

[@jamalahmed9486]

Can you make a video on country roads please, im really struggling with them

[@aashirmahmood7341]

Really helpful vedio

[@skithewhitestuff]

I drive to and from Spain a couple of times a year where using roundabouts is an absolute nightmare as even if a driver is in the inside lane,they can and often do, come off at any exit they wish. That means going all the way round it on the inside lane. So please be aware. God help us all!

[@inserter400]

They have no idea how to use aroundabout in Spain , they think they have to stay in the right hand lane for every direction 😖

[@raystarzee3929]

Which lane is preferable when exiting 3rd or 4th? Like when you have 3 lanes?

[@andyxox4168]

On a roundabout that big you can use all the lanes and it just becomes a very minor chicane!

[@jasimmathsandphysics]

Please do spiral round abouts

[@gaztambo139]

You can barely see those lane markings, it would be impossible (and unusable) in the rain at night, or even at 5pm during winter months. It’s all well and good the UK designing, and seemingly being proud of, some of the most complex road systems in the world, multi lane spiral roundabouts some with traffic lights, some with roads actually going through the middle. However, if you’re going to pursue this policy of insanely complex junctions, make sure you have the funds to keep the paint fresh. My guess is, like everything else, road marking paint is probably more environmentally friendly these days and is water based or something, so washes away after 6 months.

[@michaelscales5996]

Surely it depends what car you drive ? An Audi or BMW driver would simply floor the car and cut everyone up.We all know indicators are an optional extra on these cars. A white van driver does the same.

[@milesbashford2891]

Love video

[@sophiejackson5987]

I drive this exact roundabout all the time on the way to work and whenever I go in the furthest right lane to go to Bilston, I always get stuck because there's someone in the middle lane going right :/

[@RexxSchneider]

That's because the approach road to the island has two lanes initially, with the right-hand lane splitting to form the middle and right lanes. Anyone wanting to go to Millfields Road (A4039), rather than Wolverhampton Road or Bilston High Street knows that they need to be in the left hand lane at the next island and so uses the middle lane to make the right turn. If you don't do that, cars will join from your left and make it impossible for you to get across to the left lane before the next roundabout.

[@karanjitsamra267]

This is the mistake i made in my last lesson nice vid explaining

[@patience2202]

When shifting gears don’t you need to fully press down? Because in the video is seems you just press down slightly. 0:45

[@davidriley9194]

Pin! Your videos really helps and you explain so well of what to do and I have dealt with big roundabouts quite a few times but I sometimes drift to the next lane due to faded road markings and lines which doesn’t help at all. I find it helpful if the lines, markings and arrows has been freshly repainted on the roads and that way I can avoid drifting to the next lane if I can.

[@bearchan968]

He makes it look so easy

[@whimsical_ninja]

She apexed it beautifully. Would have been better in the lane of least resistance though

[@InshasChoice]

Do you have any advice for neurodivergent learners? One thing I struggle with is focus

[@realhass185]

for once no "hurray lady" from this video, straight to the point.

[@gamelias87]

Ranjit my DGN instructor, was saying to watch the cracks in the road as road markings where faded.

[@supermo7505]

Thats great, What happens if someone comes out shortly after you have gone passed the 1st exitand wants to continue to go straight ahead to the 3rd exit. I can see that there a potential issue with blind spot to your left and you may not see this car from your left. If you continue to the 2nd they may run into you as you take the 2nd exit. If you can help me understand tis better thank you

[@RexxSchneider]

You are signalling your intention to leave the roundabout with a left-hand indicator from the moment you reach that first exit. If anyone is stupid enough to join while you are passing in front of them and indicating left, and then accelerate fast enough to run into you, they won't last long on our roads.

[@brumbloke]

don't have have to check blind spot when moving to the left lane from the right lane of a dual carriageway? 2:40

[@tso167]

To be honest, I dont know if my point is stupid or not, but roundabouts that have more than 1 lane always seemed to confuse me. In my opinion, all roundabouts should only have 1 lane, so that confusion like these dont happen. Also from the drivers perspective, it can be a bit difficult to change lanes while inside the roundabout, because while your constantly turning, you often lose visibility of cars to your left or right side, which could cause an accident. Also…Lets say your heading towards a roundabout with multiple lanes. A car is driving in the middle and you proceed to go forward, because you know the first lane is free to drive on. What if that car from the middle decides to change lanes and switch to the outer lane right next to the exit or entrance, also causing a larger risk of accidents. Because in their perspective, they have the right of way, once inside the roundabout. I understand that roundabouts with multiple lanes may be more efficient for roads ahead, which also have multiple lanes heading towards different directions, but if you only have 1 lane there shouldnt be a bigger risk once exiting the roundabout, to change lanes according to whichever direction you may need to go to. Anyone agree? Or am I just retarded?

[@LavaCreeper]

what would happen if someone was also coming from the left lane as you were about to exit from the middle lane

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

They would have to exit onto the left lane while you exit onto the right lane

[@66oggy]

The trouble is there is no uniformity on roundabout lanes in the UK. The left lane can be turn left only, or turn left and straight on. Likewise the right lane can be right only, right and straight on, and if there is a middle lane, or more, it can be straight on only, or both, and tie this in with worn out, or last minute road markings, and if you new the the road you soon be in the wrong lane. Many roundabouts in France filter down to one lane before the roundabout, and one lane round, so guess what, it's impossible to be it the wrong lane.... Dead simple, dead safe, and everything keeps on flowing.

[@dayanmalapriya1409]

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[@Joe-ug1vu]

The amount of people that turn right from the middle lane is shocking when the arrow points ahead only

[@handsfree1000]

It would help if roundabouts where consistent

[@1SpudderR]

2:50? Why signal? When returning to the left hand lane on the Dual carriageway? You are returning to the normal driving left hand lane, only when Safe to do so!

[@chrisst8922]

I tend to approach a roundabout in whichever lane is the emptiest. I like roundabouts more than junctions.

[@rutherhood5961]

Got my test tomorrow and there’s a 3 lane roundabout that scrambles my brain, the markings are practically non existent

[@Sick_Pencil]

I was surprised most mock testers switch lanes rapidly when entering the roundabouts. I thought I'm doing something wrong staying to the left lane.

[@stefanpietrzyk8079]

If you drive in near side lane when exiting on the second exit all you do is block the passage of people wanting to take the first exit and people wanting to exit the first exit and take their first exit .

[@robinwitting2023]

I hate it when I approach a roundabout with lines of traffic obscuring lane arrows. Confusing to say the least. Or is it me.? Robin W

[@Mohamm876]

Salam brother main nay 3 Sal pahle Driving pass ki thi us ke bad practice nai ki ab main nay start ki ha driving but main Itna gabrati hu everyone when I start after break I stall the car planty of time pls help me what should I do

[@georgecaplin9075]

The state of driving in this country today, that “learner” could be an instructor.

[@yashmann]

Hello Guys, I use this roundabout a lot but can I use the middle lane to turn right since the markings follow around the roundabout to the right, I'm never sure which lane to take.

[@rusticpartyeditz]

No. There is a sign on the right side of the road about 2.19 showing the left and middle lane are straight ahead and the right lane is right turn only. The road markings also show this.

[@yashmann]

@@rusticpartyeditz yes that's what I thought but the middle road line follows into the right turning and everyone uses the middle but the sign shows use right

[@RexxSchneider]

@@rusticpartyeditz Unfortunately, the sign was not painted by someone who actually uses that roundabout in heavy traffic. Otherwise they would know that if you turn right only from the right-hand lane, you'll find it impossible to get across the three lanes exiting the roundabout if you want to turn left onto the A4039 less than 100 yards further on.

[@rusticpartyeditz]

@@RexxSchneider That sounds about right!

[@jfryer485]

@@RexxSchneider I agree. Even in the middle lane you have to cut across a lane. When the roads are very busy and people going too fast as here. This is not easy for a beginner. Using the left lane means when you turn off all you need to check is that there isn’t a cyclist or motor cycle who you could endanger by looking over your shoulder because of the blind spot.

[@MrMutluSunay]

I just failed today only one mistakes for not following on the left side of the mini roundabout 😢

[@davidknight5863]

You can witness here when the instructed chooses the first lane and how cars waiting to get on the roundabout to his left are extremely close , if I was on a motorcycle I would be very nervous and therefore choose the middle lane , I would not fancy a broken leg , or getting knocked off because I haven't been seen.

[@stevena9305]

That was my thought too. Only takes one to assume you are turning left ( exacerbated by drivers who indicate too early on a roundabout) then you have a collision and zero time to avoid it.

[@SkeeterUK]

1:44 naughty pin doing signal then mirror lol, granted its just a sec or two.

[@deficator750]

the markings on the road need to be clearer

[@Shikmusik]

If you exit into the right hand lane from a middle lane. Off the roundabout.. . And you collide with the car at the left of you that's still going round the roundabout... Who's at fault?

[@peetsnort]

The best way to negotiate a roundabout is to keep the mind open. Put your ego away and go round a few times when confronting an unknown or poorly marked roundabout

[@terencematthew1]

What country is this

[@kyungmix]

What do you do if you run out of slip road to join a motorway?

[@rusticpartyeditz]

Pray? Seriously, you speed up and filter in. Force your way in if you have to.

[@bettyswunghole3310]

Wow! I don't want to come across as bigheaded, but that all seemed pretty obvious to me...

[@harrislondon]

The biggest issue I find is most people seem to just be too incompetent to turn the steering wheel that much more. It is infuriating and IMO one of the biggest cause of accidents when people can't do something as simple as staying in their lane...

[@neilr818]

You are simpleminded to think the problem is this simple. There's a Lot going on when driving from roadsigns to roadmarkings, lights, nearby traffic, traffic up ahead, planning ahead, operating the vehicle, etc. On top of all that, you need to stay in lane too. It's not as simple as you make out.

[@steveluckhurst2350]

Keep left except when overtaking. No reason at all to use lane 2.

[@jfryer485]

Excellent video but a few comments. Should you not be signaling right on entry? When you pass the first exit, signal left. Before turning off you need to look over your shoulder to check you are not running a motor cyclist or bicycle off the road. Extra points The speed I think should be slower to take everything in And why isn’t filtering used? The car that almost came out should be allowed out. Roundabouts are dangerous places as are cross roads. You need never to hurry and be able to stop if needed. A bit of extra time and care at a hazard point isn’t going to affect the time of your journey. Have an accident and you lose time and it costs.

[@FlyBoyGrounded]

Why would you signal right if you’re going straight ahead? Left if taking the first exit, no signal until you’re leaving if you’re taking the second exit and right if you’re going past two exits or more until you indicate left to exit. Roundabouts with five or more roads need special consideration.

[@jfryer485]

@@FlyBoyGrounded Yes, it does seem odd and I expect few use this idea which is part of some countries Highway Code, The idea is you are NOT leaving at the first exit and so for this reason you can signal clearly your intent. If you turn off at the first exit then you signal for sure. When you want the next exit then you signal as you pass the previous exit. Signals are good and necessary but do need to be used with care. I passed one exit and needed the next and signaled, but the person at this exit thought I was taking his exit and pulled out in front of me. So you have to wait until you are past both the exit and cars impatient to get out before signaling to exit at the next exit. Roundabouts can be dangerous places where you need to be careful and slow and even this upsets drivers who think everyone knows the roundabout they are on and needs to travel at break neck speed. With TV ads for just about everything, I think a bit of time on road courtesy and the Highway Code would save lives and machines and probably tempers too. I have devised my own system of defence which means touch wood no accidents and amazement at dozens who commit suicide or destroy their cars by the thousand every day. A sort of real dodgem car circuit where too many dont dodge.

[@maxbee4460]

This is one of my big hates, in this its only three lanes approaching a roundabout. When you get four or five and the only indication where to be is written on the road! What a stupid idea, no use in the dark or if the is a lot of traffic masking the writing, or if there’s snow on the road. There should be overhead signage at large roundabouts. How many times have we been in the left hand lane at an ordinary junction only to find we are in a left hand turn only lane!

[@objectiveone5476]

Why do we need an explanation? The rules for roundabouts are laid out in the Highway Code.

[@beerspongebob]

You make no comment about that lady steering with one hand while resting her other hand on the gear lever most of the time ?

[@ishogunronin6626]

I plan to go 100mph around roundabouts.

[@rogersimmons8788]

'Gear one' more commonly called 'first gear'

[@johnlightfoot9967]

Go and spend some time driving in Spain, there seems to be no lane rules for round-a-bouts there. Once you realise there are no rules to follow you enter and exit with caution, no one gets frustrated and I have never seen an accident on a round-a-bout in the 2 years I was there. As I see it, if there are rules then some motorists will travel faster with the idea that they are in the right so everyone else should be too. In Spain caution wins lol.

[@Wzley20]

Whys she so close to the streering wheel?