The Biggest MISTAKE We've Made (So Far?)

Sometimes things go to plan and sometimes they don't. But sometimes the plan is the problem. And that's exactly what happened on this project and we ended up making a huge mistake as part of installing some new joists and the sub floor.
We had a plan with a fundamental flaw - but we didn't realise it at the time. Join us for some more Portugal renovation antics and some good old fashioned undo redo action.
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[@loridavis5582]

My husband is a structural engineer and he watched this with me. We love watching you guys by the way. We do a lot of diy at our farm. He mentioned three things that are all listed below: 1) you can bracket the weak spots you notched with a steel plate to add strength or change the beam out as you intend, 2) the mortar/lime can shrink causing the beams to drop so the shim idea below makes best sense, and 3) treating the end of the beams to prevent future rot/decay is prudent. These are all mentioned below in various comments. Your place will be stunning when it is done. He said you could also consider making the lower wall a support all versus a stem wall so it does provide a level of support for the joists. Anyway - hats off to you both. Keep up the great work and great attitudes about it all. He's happy to chat with you guys if you need help structurally in the future.

[@mileswhitfield2290]

YES! As an architect, I totally agree with Lori’s comment. You DO NOT need to remove the floor joists that have been installed, simply add/bolt steel plate to each of the joist you cut. You could also reinforce the existing lath wall below to handle the load from the floor system above. Don’t worry, you guys easily solve this situation! Love your show, Miles

[@warrenshalm550]

This is the correct advice. Put studs in the walls below the notched joists. Perfect solution and stronger than the other joists as you have effectively cut the spans in half. Don't tear the floor out!!😊

[@maeveskelly4686]

Super suggestion- hope they pick it up. 👏👏

[@romainarnoux]

Totally agree with Lori

[@JrgenDurkeHansen]

Exactly. Just reinforce the cut you made with some steel plates, that you bolt into the beam.

[@colingarner6175]

At least you’re doing it . The world is full of people doing nothing but find it easy to criticise .

[@MAKEDOGROW]

Best comment I’ve read for a long time, thank you 😍

[@gigacom76]

@@MAKEDOGROW hey guys, do not replace the joists. Because the floor above only for entry, you not need very strong floor. Put wooden shims between joists and walls underneath and it’s it. Believe me, next 50 years nothing will happen with this. I’m a carpenter, I know what I say.

[@jamesgrover2005]

With the notch out the beams are still as thick as the original.. or am I missing something? It's fine.

[@MAKEDOGROW]

@@jamesgrover2005 nope, with the notches they have much less strength than the originals unfortunately

[@jamesgrover2005]

@@MAKEDOGROW d'oh!

[@mikeduda3173]

That's WHY we watch you. You don't settle for half-assed. If doing it right requires a little more time and expense so be it. Good for you.

[@SuperAbcdabcdabcdabc]

Hello from PEI. When you "finish" the house reno, please have a heck of a great party to celebrate

[@davidkorn6721]

I'm an architect and loving watching your progress.... As others have said, you can add plates over where the notch is. Adding studs in the wall below can be done also, but a real PITA since you have all the wood lathes nailed up on both sides of that wall. Three other observations/recommendations since you seemed committed to doing it over... 1. It looked like you made similar notches at the ends of the new joists where they bear on the plates. Those notches weaken the joist in the same way as the notch in the middle. Better to notch the plates as required to accept the full depth of the joist. 2. Where the ends of the new joists are bearing on masonry, you need to fit small stones as shims instead of relying on only mortar for support which over time can shrink/crack/crumble. 3. Lastly, PLEASE coat the ends of the joists with a waterproof coating where they are in contact with masonry. Regardless of it being breathable lime mortar, since you are in there replacing all that material, it's so easy to protect the ends of the new wood that I don't think you can afford NOT do it now and know that moisture will never get into the wood. Same for that new plate section you put in. That should totally be protected from masonry contact. Don't be discouraged.... This is a small bump in the road of an awesome project.

[@stevebarracuda]

As was already mentioned, simply sister additional wood at the “weak” points. Also, if you ARE taking out the joists, definitely coat the ends under the entry way-actually all ends should be coated/treated-for against moisture absorption and termites/wood worms.

[@dper1112]

Wood itself isn't the best solution, because the vertical thickness is limited by the wall underneath. It would be better to use a metal plate of some kind.

[@stevebarracuda8929]

@@dper1112 Metal plate is also good!

[@Pipscape]

That moment when I saw the huge notch in the beam.... 😧🤦🏼‍♀️ I sighed a big sigh for you and figured you'd notice...eventually. Hang in there! The DIY struggle is real. But its so satisfying when its done right, done well, and you know the next generation will be enjoying the changes you've wrought. Looking forward to the satisfying re-do video. 🤭

[@MAKEDOGROW]

Yeah, the moment we realised there were definitely some choice words said. But doing it properly, rather than a hack fix, is the right thing to do at this stage

[@Pipscape]

@@MAKEDOGROW There are multiple ways to tackle this, not all of which require a total removal and replacement of the beams, but I'm sure you'll choose the method that best fits your skills and sensibilities. Good luck!

[@DeleRT83TV]

I think the biggest mistake both of you are making now is not listening to your bodies/minds. A bit of rest will probably lift your spirits up. Hopefully reading this comment helps a bit too: no matter what mistakes both of you make, you look like absolutely wonderful people and are an example to me 🥰

[@Neilhuny]

As an ex-forester I am impressed with what good quality timber you are using for your joists - so very few knots and good grain! Lovely. Delighted to hear that they will be repurposed

[@chrishamilton-wearing3232]

As mentioned by other people, the best, easiest, quickest and most efficient way of fixing this is to bolt a length of steel plate either side of the notch. This is not a bodge it repair it is used by professional builders so you won't have to feel guilty about it. Do yourselves a big favour, remove the stress, remove the reason for beating yourselves up and save a whole bunch of time, effort and money. 👍

[@annievlachos7880]

What a heavy job !!!... but what a dream team !!!...

[@ginapereira2301]

I’m a Portuguese gal living in the USA. I love your videos! Being an English high school teacher, I don’t understand anything about building. I don’t even understand what you did wrong, but I admire your courage, work ethic, perseverance, and honesty.

[@luminyam6145]

That is what is so brilliant about your videos. You are always learning from mistakes and you have such courage to forge ahead. Amazing team💖💖💖

[@sashacat53]

So glad you have been given expert advice on how to rectify your issues to avoid pulling it out altogether.

[@rb9580]

If you are concerned about losing 25% of the strength of the beam, it would be much simpler to add that amount of strength back by either sistering the weakened section or bolting a short length of flat steel to either side of the beam. Otherwise you risk moving the goalposts from "done" to "perfect" again!

[@MAKEDOGROW]

You’ve assumed that sistering/bolting is possible

[@rb9580]

@@MAKEDOGROW Indeed, I'm making lots of assumptions and you guys are the only ones on the ground and able to weigh up the options. Best of luck with whatever solution you choose! 🙂

[@nerther7625]

Quit beating yourselves up, be grateful you recognized the problem and are fixing it. We will still love you.

[@tomatobrush3283]

You also should have shimmed the bottom of the beams, rather than lifting them up and putting concrete mix below them. The beam should rest on the brick, that mix could weaken and the beam shifts down to its pre lift position, causing the floor to have a dip/spring. You could also consider filling that notch in the beam with a piece of the same wood that is tightly fitted in to it. Save you redoing it.

[@philvale5724]

Hi 👋, I am new to your renovation project, I am sorry say I new what were going to do even before you done it, as it is one of the most must Mistakes that people do, but you learn by your mistakes, and so long as you do that you will get better and more efficient, I now it is time consuming but it is better to draw something out, even just a sketch, and never cut the under side of the beams, I am retired , Specialist Jointer, Cabinet Maker. Of over 40s , and I have made mistakes, I have been working on very large barn conversions over the last 17-19 years, mainly in the Uk , just one project had 8 Doors, 24 windows, in 2015-6 one of the biggest windows I have ever made 4mt wide 5-6 Mt high , and the doors 80Ml thick , I am now living in the Correze in France in a moulin , we I/ ex partner purchased back in 2012/3 , I had to replace 24 beams on the first floor, I dropped them in the basement, it only took me about 5hr but 2 days to remove and clean up, and burn in , I decided to build a wall plate 100x220 x 12Mt long I put post every 1Mt , I got a company to make 2 jigs in aluminium, one to cut a tail, and the other dove, as to make a very large DOVETAIL joint, this is a technique that Germany and Swedens do in beam construction it is very strong, but you have to calculate the length of the size of the beam and then it will get you size of the dovetail, Sorry for going on so much, I am a old guy with no one to talk to, Good luck with your rebuild, if I still had my bike I would come and see you and if wanted I would love to get you a hand , I have been to Portugal twice, it as some amazing scenery. Stay safe, Phil from the moulin France.

[@heidibear44]

So sorry guys, that's just how it goes sometimes. We've had redos on our projects here too. It hurts for a day but we just had to get stuck back in. Hope you are still proud of all your hard work. Good luck. Love from South Africa ❤

[@alethianicholson384]

'The time has come, the Walrus said, to talk of other things, of saws and drills and ceiling wax and cabbages and kings'. Good team work and calculating!

[@sue7190]

Just watched the latest vlog from Ateliermavi which you might find interesting. He has used hempcrete blocks that look like breeze blocks. It shows him cutting channels for electrics and plumbing which looked easy going and then hemp plastering over. Might be a good option for your brick walls if available in Portugal. Love to the kittens ❤

[@j.n.sloane]

Honestly, I would be balling my eyes out. Frustration and more frustration. I feel for you. I really do, because I've done something similar and it feels bloody awful. Thank you for keeping it real. What you need right now is some kitten love. Saludos desde Asturias.

[@MAKEDOGROW]

Real life is much more interesting than the fake glossy ones … especially with the amount of mistakes we make 😂

[@goodtogo3]

as I lie here in bed eating risotto across the world, I realize there is not a chance in hell I will ever renovate anything.....you make it look so easy.

[@desirepflugbeil8986]

I have so much respect for you. Just relax a bit and then start again. Hugs

[@tonagilvarry6852]

Love your honesty with yourselves well done .

[@asc3184]

I know it is scarce comfort, but u have my respect. Not many people are able to see they made a mistake and learn from it. You are learning on the job. On hindsight everything appears easy. Yes you r right, rest and sleep are important. We all make mistakes but not many are able to admit and learn and correct the course. You did. Thank u for another video. And yes i found this episode exciting. I get satisfied and excited when i see u tackle and overcome yet another milestone on your road. Keep ur optimism up and allow ur common sense to guide u as u have so far. Continued best wishes.

[@MAKEDOGROW]

Thanks for your kind words 😍 We’re always looking for the learnings, just wish they didn’t always come with so much frustration 😂

[@asc3184]

@MAKE. DO. GROW. I know what u mean!

[@maricaplasmans6061]

The more frustration the bigger the learning often is. Like you said, its the mistake on the beam, but also tierdness and need of rest and a deadline. So I'll take your 3 learnings to heart when it's time to start my project. Thanks for making these mistakes. Succes on the heatpump and redoing those beams. One silver lining, you have the templates on the wallsights right?

[@rudymazar5266]

Such a couple of hard workers you are !! This house is going to be the best constructed/renovated in Portugal !

[@sereniebellini]

Well that is quite a 'twistment' at the end, I'm sorry but glad you both chose to do the painfully right thing to do. 😶‍🌫I'm sure there's a silver lining to this!

[@sgrvtl7183]

WOW, those joists/beams! a challenge for sure. I must say, You Two are a good team (said many times before). I hope you can rest and rejuvenate in between sessions. Good for the Soul......Sending JOY~💖💖

[@craigf3624]

As another engineer noted below, they make metal straps with nail holes that could be placed across the bottom of the notches that will likely provide the beam strength you require. However, if the beams or joists will be exposed you would see those straps. You could make straps if you can't find them where you are with some 1/8 inch plate the width of your joist about 3-4 feet long. Drill holes for 10 penny nails about 4" on center and stagger them left to right..........................

[@marykendall]

You are so right! It is what it is and you are fixing it. That said, when I see those beautiful windows looking out I can imagine how wonderful your home will be when you finish. Hang in there!

[@glennreach6930]

I once had a very smart boss (I know.....unusual, right?) and he told me after a massive cock-up, "if you never make mistakes, you are not working hard enough!" And he is/was right.

[@danodynamo]

Love watching the channel, legends!

[@carolranes91]

My favorite quote is “successful people make failure their best friend because they see him often"! I think it may be John Maxwell because I read a book on him once about success and he talked about how successful people see failure often because it is such a critical part of the learning process. I always tell myself “I made the best decision based on the information I had at the time or my ability to access all the information I had at the time of the decision” then like you I make adjustments and move on! I find that negative thoughts or beating myself up just use too much energy and I can apply that energy to something more interesting. As I have gotten older and wiser and as my energy is not what it was in my youth, I am happy with that decision. What is great about you two is that as you learn from your mistakes your vast audience also learns. I am 78 and have no plans to do any more major projects like you two have undertaken but I really enjoy watching the two of you work together and figure thing out. I majored in math and worked in computers! Early in my career I was the only professional woman in computer work in each company I worked for, the other women there were secretaries or clerks. I had to learn to work with men and solve problems together. It was interesting to see the different way each solves problems differently. I found I had a global view of the problem where the men had a more detailed and event driven view. Now when I watch men and women working together I often see the techniques change back and forth between the two. It is nice to see how we have learned to work as teams!

[@lorimontcalm9086]

The original wood you removed made me think you guys were walking on wasp nest wood!! I'm surprised someone didn't fall through it. Typical to form, you guys realized your mistake and are fixing it, that's what I love about your channel, you show your mistakes and then show us how to do it better. Hugs from 🇨🇦

[@joandovaston6573]

Been in the building industry all my life,i❤watching the both of you fashion this building to your requirements. Learning will take you to next level. The job that you’re doing is excellent 😊😊😊……Cheers from Australia………

[@MAKEDOGROW]

As long as that next level isn’t another (even bigger) project 😂

[@yaelsoussan7554]

When you said rip it out, I yelled out loud, "nooooooooo"

[@phillipgriffiths9624]

I find your videos very interesting. Over many years I have learnt by trial and error. In 1985 I repointed my entire old stone house in cement mortar. That’s what builders said was the right way to do it. Big mistake. Three years ago I removed it all and repointed using quicklime. We live and learn!

[@andreacrashe9894]

*Kia ora (hello) Kylie & Guy, It takes guts to come back to admit you made a mistake and what can be done to fix that mistake... Not many would do that.... and that is why I have followed you both from your original channel over to this one... I shall look forward to seeing the updated video, when you come back to this part in the future. See you both in the next installment of your wonderful videos.*

[@erwinroodt1245]

Such wise words, from a hugely admired couple.

[@markduncan6690]

Indeed Kylie! You are the Voice of Reason!

[@gaynor3976]

Aww my heart sunk when you said at the beginning you've got to redo all you've just done. It did look like awful hard work so no wonder you're both tired. I admire your stamina and positivity to get it right. Rest and have a good week ahead xx

[@srantoniomatos]

Its a pleasure to wacth you work. All you do makes sense. Renovating an old building is much harder then building an new one. Its a discovery and creative project from beginning to end. And sometimes goes wrong and there s redoing... From a fellow renovation worker, with years of landscaping and constrution experience (not expertise).

[@fredrobinson6990]

You two work well together. Looks like you’ve done plenty of research to get the job done right.

[@mtilford]

I really admire your patience and perseverance. I'm sorry that you have to redo it all.

[@moomoocho1196]

You two are my favorite people to learn from! Cheers mate 🍻

[@jaapklok5560]

Did you make a calculation weather the beams are to light? My guess ( as a naval architect) is that the beams are overkill in size anyway and by adding extra beams you divide the load so each beam has to carry less load ! If you are still concerned about the strength, you could sister them with either a wooden beam or mild steel. Adding a flatbar 50x6 mm will add a lot of strength. Don't beat yourself up to much, you are doing a wonderful job!

[@dulciemargaretcolton145]

It Was fiddly, awkward and heavy but you both did it and its now done..there you go. Well done

[@jimmyjohnstone5878]

Lesson learned. Onward with the next job and don't beat yourselves up too much.

[@cindyconnour446]

We, your loyal fans, sooooooo enjoy your daily escapades.

[@erincochran4344]

You all are my favorite Saturday morning watch...like a kid watching my favorite Saturday morning cartoons, you've become a staple of the day! Keep on, you're doing great!

[@itchyfeet4205]

What about leaving them in and laminating them? (Gluing and screwing timbers to the sides of the notched beams) ...it would still mean having to take up the Stirling board but at least you could leave in waht you've already done and you could add timbers half the size (for example 150x40 instead of 150x80)

[@hvanderp578]

I would have left it, the beams are strong enough and it would have lasted at least a lifetime. You are perfectionists😂

[@jennichristie5264]

A good learning experience and a great attitude to what has to be done.

[@lisahahn173]

Great comments below, such a supportive community! Get r done

[@markduncan6690]

Those old beams will make Good Firewood!

[@MamaVee50]

I caught it (!) but told myself, they know what they’re doing! ❤️ And you did, after a good night’s sleep.

[@tejolisboa]

I am slow. Every time you switch to a new plan, I take some time to adjust and to understand where I am looking from. Then, when I figured it out, the scene ends… But I love the way you search for the solutions.

[@soniammartinez1480]

Y’all rock regardless of a few wrong issues.

[@soniaayachealmeida7111]

Hello, here in Brazil, when a person works a lot, we say: "you worked like a grown-up". And that's what I say to you. Congratulations!!!! 💚🥰💝🙏🙏💐🌻 Hugs from Brasil 🇧🇷 🎉❤

[@margaretyourchuck6417]

You are excellent period, showing your mistake makes us all better. So much thanks. L

[@terrymanthorpe1454]

As a proper carpenter of 50 years you do not have to take out the joist , well done 👍

[@mm.6991]

Your strength your teamwork is a pleasure to see... doing and redoing not being afraid to recognize the mistake and having the courage to redo it is strength of character. 😍👍

[@jeantriplett8478]

Take a break before you break......drink wine.....could you sister a piece in with wall notched in....Do you ever think why did we start this.....We have rehabbed several homes and know how frustrating redo is....Knowing it is done right is a good feeling. Really enjoy your videos, have watched from the beginning....

[@nigelnorton1140]

Loving your presentation. The ‘fly on the wall’ style worked really well. Great!

[@ChristineKelly1000]

Just goes to show you are not perfect. Make sure to get some rest. You are doing a brilliant job.

[@bibatuga5501]

I always look forward to your videos. I love how you try to solve situations through "trial and error". After working in the construction industry for 40 years, I can tell you something you forgot to do. Insulate the ends of the wooden beams that come into contact with the masonry. They will rot if they're not coated in "bituminous material". Other than that... keep going. 💪👍

[@sybamunki]

Sometimes done is better than perfect. Ill use that at work!

[@0smanTak-ns4qc]

And... 100K congrats.

[@SwimCoach8]

First, your span is not that long. Do some research, see if the dimension remaining (excluding notch) is structurally capable of handling the span. Second, how difficult would it be to add structure to the bathroom wall, making it load bearing, essentially halving the load requirement of the floor joist either side of the wall. Finally, (best option) sistering with true plywood (not OSB) or actual 1 by material can add remarkable amounts of strength to the entire span. Would need to be glued and notched INTO the bathroom wall but it would solve you dilemma and last for decades. Metal plates would also work and be incredibly strong. Metal is just a bit more fiddley and requires drilling into an already weakened joist. I know it's ok to do that but it always makes belly grumbly when drilling more holes into an already questionable framing member. Good luck and don't beat yourselves up. A...it can be fixed and B...It doesn't require removing final finishings.

[@kevinjohn725]

Your getting there. Well done.

[@vrrtg]

I am always in awe of your courage and hard work, I get tired just by watching your videos! 😄How anyone would even dare criticize what you do or what you've accomplished since taking on this project is beyond me. Sending good vibes so you get your mojo back!

[@farmkay]

Is there enough room to leave the mistakes in place and put yet another beam done correctly long side. The floor will be super strong.

[@MAKEDOGROW]

This is the best ‘fix’ suggestion we’ve seen … will definitely see if we can do this, but we’re a little tight on space as we need to fit all the services between the joists (electrics and ventilation ducting)

[@RedPhone-mz5lv]

Love your team work my husband and I worked on our home just like you team work makes the dream work and you prove it, good luck love the care you give that lovely old home

[@stknmggs1788]

Even when mistakes happen I so enjoyed your process and am learning so much

[@zlatahume3134]

Don’t despair correct it and move on, you doing fab and the house will be great when finished 😅😊

[@shigatsuningen]

Construction guide app from Sweden provides ample resources. Checking the measurements for a span of 3400 mm you would need a beam for a floor structure to measure w x h , class, span max 45x195 mm, C24, 3 410 mm 45x220 mm, C24, 3 840 mm 45x245, C24, 4 280 mm 70x220, C24c 4 460 mm With a CC distance between beams of 600 mm. I think you would be well dimensioned if you took out 70 mm and that equates to 25% of the beam total height. Then your beam would have to be 210 mm remaining and you could easily span the full 3,4 meter in one go anyway.

[@metallitech]

Well done on deciding to re-do.

[@monalingan9523]

Oops! Progress not perfection. Love watching you two.

[@carmencreamer3769]

I think you are doing an amazing job…but will admit I was thinking, “You can’t notch out support beams! “ But what is so good about your renovation is the thought you give to it all, even afterwards. In the end I have every confidence that your renovation will be well done in a safe and yet respectful of the past manner…and of the many I have watched on KZbin, yours is the only one I would say that about! And by the way, you make our 20+ year renovation of our 170 year old house look like a piece of cake (we hired a lot of help!)

[@Brigidz]

I would say you could download a chart of recommended joist spans considering length of joist and spacings. It's possible that the rebate you've made in the ends of the joists and at the lower wall don't reduce the joist depth to such an extent and that the joist dimension you have now does stay within the desired dimensions. Best still, talk to your friendly builder and ask him what the best solution is. I'm sure, while you will have to undo some of your work, (e.g. taking out nogs that may be in the way of a fix) pulling the whole floor up will not be necessary. As others have suggested fitting flitch plates to either side of the joists would be a suitable fix, in addition to strengthening the lower wall with additional studs so that it is load bearing.

[@stevewoodw]

I kept thinking that you could have the holes for the joists all prepared but a little too big and then clamp some beams across with the joists clamped down below them so they'd all be in place to be limed in, when you came to fitting them. You did look rather jaded throughout if you don't mind me saying, you have to bear in mind that the kittens have probably taken it out of you. Keep going though. It will be worth it.

[@ilonakatalindako-tolman5545]

Learning ...yes... our daily care...good infos... we are always learning 🎉

[@simonlewis6276]

How about putting extra vertical studs in the new wall under and supporting the joists above where you notched them out ? And/or a couple of long checker plate (or similar gauge )steel cheek plates bolted through on each side of the the joists where you notched them out .Any local blacksmith would make those for you from your cardboard pattern template .Would have thought that would save a lot of buggering about with taking out the just fixed new joists .After all you only have to repair the structural integrity /stability of a couple of joists at the notches .A vertical post under the notch in the stud wall below and or some steel cheeks would do that .And all can be achieved from below .Just a thought that perhaps you have already had !

[@simonlewis6276]

Me again .If you find a blacksmith or local Stella fabricator you could have steel U shaped reinforcement plates made up to bridge the joist notches rather than just plates on either side .While you are at it how about having some purpose made joist support made to reinforce where they enter the stone work .Like a steel wall plate that can be bolted to pre located lengths of threaded bar set deep into the stone work . plate with a lip on it under the joist where it enters the stone work .Belt and braces maybe .If you soak the joist ends even now with preservative it will track to the ends in the wall by capillary action .

[@obsessive_doka_disorder]

No more custom joists! Just add side supports at the cut outs, some character. Character is strength, that goes for not only your joists but for the both of you!🙃

[@elisaferreira7244]

Mistakes happen guys dont worrie you are doing an amazing job

[@JK-yf9sx]

Reminds me of the time Guy's sister renamed the channel "MAKE. DO. AND RE-DO".

[@glenyscallaghan1195]

That turned into a marathon for you . Take a holiday and lie on a beach under the parasol for recovery.❤❤😂👏👏👏

[@eliekornster1096]

Did you when you bougth this house imagine/know how much work it would be? Btw I love you guys! Love how you work together/live together/speak to eatch other. A true inspiration.

[@lanalee9294]

I feel for you guys, this is how we learn and improve. Well done for all your hard work and for sharing both the highs and the lows - very real and much appreciated. Hugs to you both

[@21Diddley]

How very human of you. I beat myself up with I make mistakes, but as soon as other people start with the, 'Oooh, that was dumb' I realise they're the ones who never actually do anything. Well done for having a go at everything that needs doing, and well done for getting the entryway into a condition that you can use it while you're installing the heat pump.

[@user-ep9xf8iq1c]

you are great and I like the way you are doing You are genuine persons good luck and enjoy your time

[@nelsondesilva3916]

No, I didn't see the error but I felt the pain deep down when you explained it clearly. Been there enough times to know not to point the finger. It's heart breaking but lessons learnt as they say in the classics. Thanks for sharing, if you two can make the occasional error then I don't feel so bad.

[@christopherhindle1174]

Pleased to see my advice/comment about the need to replace the wall plate on your last video about the works was followed and justified, despite there being zero comments from yourselves or your followers about the necessity for this!.

[@cynthiashepherd3833]

Maybe an addition to the title….Make,Do,Undo,GROW. Sometimes s*** happens. I’m thrilled you found it so quickly. Good job.

[@izzy8386]

The down side: redoing really laborious work (sorry about that), the upside, you have templates for the new joists! 😁👍🏼 Have I mentioned how much I admire you both for the incredible, difficult work you’re doing to renovate and preserve this beautiful home? Well done! 👏🏼

[@jeniferpollonais6546]

Love you guys! I agree, do it right for peace of mind. ❤️

[@carole4119]

This was extremely hard labour..however youve found a big problem ..and your on your way to make it better!.. Just doing what youve just removed.makes it look better Much clearer.. On your way..sometimes worst things ..once youve started..make uou feel like youve moved the mountain more. Good job.. From ms

[@miriammuskal5402]

Don't despair ❤you are doing a great job

[@lillmill63]

I hang out for every video and love thE honesty you give to your wins and your losses. Get some sleep guys, tomorrow it will all look clearer. Big love from outback Australia.