The BIGGEST "stealth" change that Mappa made | Chainsaw Man Animation Breakdown & Comparison Ep 5

[@chillee6474]

I mean he literally said, “Thats it?” Showing how discontent he was. I feel people misinterpreting it lies purely in some people lacking perception

[@imshubhajit]

Exactly... I felt his discontent was obvious & then the dialogue "That's it?" drives home the idea that Denji didn't enjoy what he hoped to be a life changing experience prior to this.

[@m4tta]

that’s pretty realistic imo, i think most people had a feeling of “…oh” in similar instances

[@ruscul7155]

Ikr….. i cant understand how that wasnt clear enough… i think people really just assume denji is a single minded pervert and only really thinks about perverted stuffs… people really forget that he had almost 0 pleasures as a child so he himself is just assuming what he wants to do even if he dont know what it really is… people just keep forgetting his entire childhood is killing devils!!!

[@vadersreign]

yes.

[@coolbrotherf127]

I agree. It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction that he was confused and disappointed.

[@RobsterDude]

Tru, reading the manga i felt the emptiness inside of denji and powers attempt to skip the awkwardness more intense

[@Lilly-qt4yy]

I cannot possibly understand how much more on the nose they could have been in conveying how awkward it was for power and how unfulfilling it was for denji in the anime. I have no clue what you are talking about

[@sakamotojc464]

Maybe because of their eyes

[@m4tta]

@@Lilly-qt4yy i also felt it pretty clearly in the anime, they both just stand there still, not really doing anything before power decides to leave

[@Lilly-qt4yy]

@@m4tta Yeah the awkwardness was palpable, I understood it way more in the anime than the manga

[@takanara7]

@@Lilly-qt4yy I mean, I read the manga so I already knew what to expect, it was pretty obvious there, but I did see a lot of reactors get confused and think he was like in shock because of how great it was (watched way too many reactions of this, tbh). It's probably easier to miss something in a video then in a manga. But that said, it doesn't really matter since it was clearly explained later when he's talking to Makima.

[@beastiebro]

I prefer facial animation as a means to convey emotion over background cues. Seems like a lot of people are bad at picking those up… anyway stuff like that is why Vinland Saga is just a great anime adaptation.

[@foggymossman]

I don't understand how people thought denji enjoyed it when he literally said "that's it?"

[@yahboi3640]

Idk if he didn’t enjoy it. I think he was just disappointed because it wasn’t as good as he dreamed it being.

[@edef1244]

He did enjoy it, as in the experience wasn't unpleasant to him. It's just that it didn't live to his expectations of being the best thing that can happen. Unlike Makima, he has no romantic feelings for Power so it gave him minimal pleasure. I also think he just likes it when women are more forward and dominant (totally not projection from Fujimoto) because when Makima grabs his hand and puts it on her chest, he goes absolutely insane.

[@ayothemayoman2840]

@@edef1244 he only went insane after all that she did and told denji in that moment provin her point

[@Magictrickslol]

One thing that has always bugged me is how anime tends to lack the ability to portray any sort of subtext. They always have to explain everything out loud. But the visuals in this one actually pulled it off. I think the highly cinematic take on visuals and voice acting are doing it for me.

[@rafzombie9896]

This is why I have a love/hate relationship with anime, even with my some of my favs such as jojo, and why I lost interest in bnha. Everything explained in words squeezed in to stretch out stories and it feels almost like being in kindergarten again, having your hand held every episode at the cost of a decently adapted animation.

[@joseyphipps]

I enjoy when adaptations don’t copy scene for scene, especially like that bathroom scene. Some good troupes in manga break my immersion in anime, like when the background just changes into a random color to emphasize a comedic moment for example. Especially when the anime style is usually very detailed and not slice-of-life.

[@imshubhajit]

This.

[@takanara7]

eh, it doesn't really bother me that much in Anime, maybe I've gotten used to it. But that said, I really like the Chainsaw Man adaptation and I feel like the 'naturalistic' style will help a lot of people in the west get into it more, since it's more like a western-style movie or 'prestige TV' show. I remember maybe a few years trying to watch Bakemonogatari and the quick edits seemed really confusing - but then recently after watching a lot more anime, it was fine. Part of it is just getting used to that kind of thing.

[@lukepittman4297]

@@takanara7 I think it's purposely falling in line with both Japanese and western life action film making. It's much more inspired by live action than any other anime.

[@komos3719]

Spot-on in highlighting the stylistic difference. It has it's own pros and cons but it's still executed very well. Imo I think it's fine that people didn't immediately pick up on Denji's emptiness upon reaching his first goal because it was still seeded in the first place and is soon to be hammered home in the story. I think people who didn't will get there eventually as the story goes on, manga readers just have a bounty of hindsight.

[@Erick-tv8oq]

I mean, he explains it word for word to Makima. The important part is the conversation, not the immediate perception of emptiness. The dialogue with Makima allows us to find out that Denji is much more thoughtful than he looks, and raises a legitimate question: to someone who never got anything out of life, every little thing could be a dream or a goal, but then what after?

[@komos3719]

@@Erick-tv8oq yeah but what I'm discussing is what anime-watchers took from the scene because that was brought up in the video - how the different presentation of the scene made the conclusion viewers came to less concise although it was still laid out for them. I agree that it's actually quite blatant but at this point people are still taking Makima at her word and, from what I've seen, appear to buy into the idea that Denji's ultimate goal *is* sexual conquest rather than a mutual and unconditional connection with others. Which is interesting.

[@Erick-tv8oq]

@@komos3719 I think the anime is conveying Denji’s character pretty well. Episode 1 establishes that Denji sets goals for himself, so he can live striving to do something, but since he didn’t have anything, everything can be a goal. You could say that from episode 1 to episode 2, Denji’s “goal” was eating bread with peanut butter and jam, for example. The scene of him putting every single condiment on slice of bread, eating it and saying it is delicious, is already pretty telling of how his mind works. Denji’s world is incredibly smalll, but it’s constantly expanding, and his ultimate goal might be that of a genuine connection with people, but he doesn’t know that yet. At this point in the story it’s okay for people to think he wants sexual conquest, they aren’t fully immersed into the deeper themes of the narrative yet

[@komos3719]

@@Erick-tv8oq no, I'm not saying it isn't. I even agree with you completely on your last sentence. There's just a tonal difference which changes how the audience at large understands Denji. I'm not saying it's here or there, it just is.

[@Cleverconveyence]

There are some people that say that the adaptation style is off or whatever but honestly I actually really appreciate it for being its own thing. I also feel like the English dub is reinjecting a lot of humor that is getting a bit lost in the subtitles I think. Although Meowy jumping from across the hallway as Power exits, the bathroom is incredibly fucking funny and I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned at all in the video.

[@ssilentmedia]

I don't have a problem with changes that have to be made for something to be properly adapted from one medium to another. Not at all. But when the director starts talking about how he wanted to make it his version (as something was wrong with the original) then that's when i have a problem with it. An adaptation should be something that tries his best to adapt the source material not something to be changed just because the director likes it better this way and an adaptation should never be "it's own thing" or we end up with stuff like the Witcher series or the Promised Neverland s2 where instead of changing the only thing wrong with the manga they went and made their own thing and made it much much much worse. I guess, at the end of the day it's the intention of the changes that matters, how many changes are and if those changes actually make things better or not. That being said I love this adaptation but I can understand why the japanese fans are angry at the director taking into consideration what he said in interviews.

[@beastiebro]

@@ssilentmedia I get that what you purport as the meaning of “adaptation” is a popular conception… But that’s not what an adaptation is. I’m not arguing about the Witcher but just pointing out that you aren’t putting forth the denotation of the word.

[@ssilentmedia]

@@beastiebro i'm curious. what do tou consider the meaning of adaptation is? and please keep in mind that i like the chainsaw man. i did not say that i agree with the japanese fans but that i understand them.

[@beastiebro]

@@ssilentmedia an adaptation is the transfer of a work or story, in whole or in part, from one medium to another wherein the director is allowed to take creative liberties. That is the understanding of “adaptation” that I have come to have after wasting my time minoring in film and theater in college lol

[@ssilentmedia]

@@beastiebro so the first part is like my definition of adaptation. the only difference is where you added that the director cand modify it and that's where i disagree. an adaptation should always attempt to adapt the source material as true as possible while doing the necessary changes to make it work for the new medium. be it cutting out some stuff because of time limitations, relaying an information in a different way if needed (mangas usually have a lot of inner dialogue but that doesn't always works on tv), reframing certain scenes (because the manga panels are designed with a book format in mind while shows and movie scenes are designed with the screen and moving pictures in mind), changes some exaggerated faces because the new medium allows for more ways of conveying a message etc the point is that it should try to be as close as possible to the source material. be it from a technical point of view or from a spirit point of view. if not, and the director has full control over what changes he can make and only makes them because he thinks his interpretation of the source material is superior to the original then what's the point in calling it an adaptation. it's just inspired by because at the end of the day we also have to take into consideration why people want certain stuff to be adapted into anime format. because they want to see their favorite manga and story in a moving format.

[@badpiggy4177]

12:30 This Even the manga never changed the art style just for a joke and kept everything consistent. I myself am getting a little tired of humour in other shows where the art style changes just for a joke and completely shifts the overall tone This instead keeps the humour flowing naturally and the anime does it damn well.

[@m4tta]

100% agreed

[@erikka1368]

6:05, according to Tatsuki Fujimoto's twitter, Power and Denji put shit on Aki's nose while he was sleeping. 😖 Gross.

[@RegistryEdits]

yikes...I almost wish I didn't know that lol

[@dooplon5083]

@@RegistryEdits def explains why he was so pissed tho lol

[@mixkidd5359]

Bro your channel is super underrated, definitely gonna be sharing ur videos. Keep up the good work.

[@CyberWTF]

Amazing video as usual, high quality production and editing. I hope you talk more about any animation you like and what was used in it, it’s very interesting to me and you seem like you know a lot about it, so please do take some time to do so!

[@RegistryEdits]

I will! Thanks for sticking around so long!

[@kushalpanchali1033]

Dude you were in matt's video right ?

[@CyberWTF]

@@kushalpanchali1033 yea, the KZbin anime community is smaller than you think :D

[@kushalpanchali1033]

@@CyberWTF yea😂

[@paocut9018]

I have to say, this ed was my favourite so far. The music is great (I have been listening to it non stop for a week) and the visuals are simple but they hide so many foreshadowing moments. As a manga reader I tried to catch as many of them as possible and I found at least 4 instances of foreshadowing.

[@aidenmb7932]

Same

[@KingJH0510]

Everyone is nitpicking mappas adaptation but every passing episode i love it more and more

[@JusNeil1]

"This ability really is handy" Nice.

[@dx7689]

Anybody who questions whether or not Denji was satisfied after the experience clearly has not truly lived and accomplished anything. That expression on his face alone says he was dissatisfied. That’s why Makima took the reigns and showed him a proper experience that he would never forget. All the while manipulating him for the “cough” future.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

1:09 what chapter and page is this frame on where zero two talks about the background being spotty and black? nevermind, its chapter 12, just with dialogue text rewritten

[@elmarce1983]

8:19 🤪 haha Nice breakdown! Looking forward to next episode 😊

[@Nkanyiso_K]

Your break downs are so great 🥺 I'm so excited to see The International Assassins arc the Adaptation will be very interesting to keep an eye on 👁‍🗨

[@takanara7]

Won't be until next season, though. I initially heard they'd be doing a 24 episode season but sounds like it's going to be a split-cour like AOT.

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke9660]

Quanxi

[@masjanin]

also you should have compared aki's home in the episode vs the trailer. they really make it more detailed

[@MugiwaranoTonyDStark]

Great video as usual. Episode 6 was great, and goddamn 7 looks to be an absolute BANGER… Can't wait honestly. I will say though that the title might upset some people since it's a little too much of a clickbait, but I honestly really don't care. Just letting you know.

[@RegistryEdits]

Yeah maybe that was a bit much. I think it's a little better now. Thanks for telling me. Can't wait for Episode 7!

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke9660]

Wait you already saw 7’s preview?

[@MugiwaranoTonyDStark]

@@chidubememma-ugwuoke9660 no, it'll release tomorrow. But the way that episode 6 ended pretty much promises that 7 will be insane.

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke9660]

@@MugiwaranoTonyDStark yh i feel u

[@eded9157]

Danm IMO Mappa surpassed the manga in this episode. Thanks for this videos, this time im not reading the manga so, its always nice to know if something is missed.

[@wolfbrigade8042]

Another great episode and another great comparison as well! Tuesdays really are my highlight of the week currently because of the CSM anime and I can't wait for the upcoming episode 7. The next six episodes in general will be absolutely crazy and I'm so looking forward to see some of these amazing moments animated.

[@Dephlazgmatus]

Looking forward to your breakdown of episode 6!

[@wanderingyeehaw]

The biggest thing they changed was that they didn't animate Powers feet in the groping scene

[@hopeful6489]

Fun fact: the prank Power and Denji did on Aki was putting a turd on his face calling it a mustache when he was asleep

[@trapchan386]

Whose is it though

[@hopeful6489]

@@trapchan386 either power of meowy

[@El_Andru]

5:30 I think my only gripe with the anime is that this guy doesn't look like Aki. Why is his face longer and has bug eyes?

[@Haluku9]

My saturday is saved!

[@padhiyarom175]

Yesss let's go quality contact time baby 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@kiririn1582]

10:57 "handy"

[@Dog_Tamer]

Love your work

[@screamshot335]

I want to see that really "sensual" kissing between imeno and denji in the anime

[@asaurusrex9165]

man i was malding when they ended before the eternity devil fight ;cccc

[@SurroundSt]

This anime requires your brain too much twitter keeps misunderstanding every character and scene

[@iyannazarian866]

Thanks dudeeeee i was loooking so muchhhh forwarddd to this episodeeeee

[@maxdon2001]

Great video!

[@The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage]

Seems weirdly appropriate that this vids got 69K views. I am very mature

[@andreim4667]

thx for all work done, nice video

[@spectacularspider-man4886]

3:45 backround music?

[@hasibulhossain2383]

As usual top quality

[@JackTheSpades]

From your comment at 3:33 it seems like you (and many others) think this is referring to the 9/11 world trade center attack, but it's not. The story is set in 1997 so it couldn't have been that and the "live" isn't really something that need "correction" either. It's just the unfortunate choice that referring to a terrorist attack with a burning high rise will generally make people think of 9/11 first and foremost.

[@atlasiscooler4694]

The parallel between the attack and real life 9/11 is still probably intentional though even if it’s not historically identical, this is an alternate universe not only with devils but with other things such as the Soviet Union being still in existence in this universe despite disbanding in 1991 in real life. Sure Fujimoto COULD HAVE thought of a high-rise that looks suspiciously like the 50% of the then-existing World Trade Center in an area that looks like NYC getting attacked by terrorists with smoke coming from the exact same spot… by coincidence (or just not double-checked when things took place before putting historical inaccuracies in the story) but considering Fujimoto is a massive fan of American movies he probably has some knowledge of the existence of 9/11 or at least enough to not do that completely unintentionally.

[@KillerTacos54]

Excellent video

[@ray-boi1351]

Have you ever wanted to do a My hero academia manga/anime analysis ? With season 6 out, I was wondering if you could do that

[@kingavarga6488]

When I heard it will get an adaptation I was afraid they'll just copy the manga and I'm so happy they didn't. There are only a few anime for me that can compete with their manga version and Chainsaw man is definitely one of them. It's a great example of how to change things to fit the medium without altering the whole vibe or the story.

[@prayersforbleon5704]

the prank was denji and power putting poo one aki nose😭😭

[@RegistryEdits]

:)

[@highspeedrailenjoyer1045]

Leaks say that ep 8 of csm will be another Tanaka work.

[@RegistryEdits]

@@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Really now? What source said that? :D

[@highspeedrailenjoyer1045]

@@RegistryEdits Some leakers The same people are saying that ep 9 will be directed by Gosso.

[@irmaosrodrigues1289]

man, do you think they will rush the next episodes? seem that they wll adapt until chapter 38 but at HALF. I wish they could adapt the cinema chapter... probably not! This chapter (39) became a flash back for Denji in the next one (40) which is the gap for Bomb devil arc... Do you think Mappa would produce movie with one entire arc, like other studios? I dont think they will close without cuts from now on... because fighting scenes will be awesome and sure will have extras... they cut muscle devil scene so...

[@irmaosrodrigues1289]

@@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 who is Tanaka and Gosso, im sorry. animators for ending or...?

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, how very interesting.

[@Quwucuqin]

I Just want a manga facial expression on anime

[@nightfr09]

One punch man has a lot of really stylized faces

[@PunpunRen]

(Spoilers) The Crows have a more important meaning if you take makima into consideration

[@xSoporific1]

👌

[@nilli99]

ugh you guys are weird. it’s perfectly adapted. the boob scene was very awkward just like the manga

[@sakamotojc464]

Maybe its because of their eyes right? I wish mappa didnt dyed their eyes

[@jamiesadf5829]

I was always sort of afraid of this, part of what makes Chainsaw man so good is the manga format. Creative uses of panelling, borders, expressions, and backgrounds, all come together to make the series what it is. You don't get that in anime. I think fujimoto excels at that format, and his stories fit manga really well. As the CSM anime has been going forward, I'm seeing that they don't fit anime very well. At least not the Mappa kind of anime. I also don't really like the choice of progression per episode. Its really annoying to end the episode just before the actual end of whats going on. The power thing in this episode was annoying, like why split a pretty short bit between episodes.

[@dooplon5083]

I mean it creates a nice sense of completion thinking that he actually got the boob holding of his dreams after zuch a dramatic fight, it actually flows much nicer than you'd assume if you're someone completely unfamiliar with the story, it only looks odd if you've already read it beforehand

[@davidn7795]

Wow

[@Syntecoderyo]

How can you be confused if Denji liked it or not. He said it himself

[@THEdudeproductions]

No...he meant the moments before he said that line, countless reactors couldn't tell.

[@Syntecoderyo]

@@THEdudeproductions ah okay

[@wafan5735]

@@THEdudeproductions Countless reactors couldnt tell the flashback was akis backstory until they did a kid/adult parallel later. Some people cant understand unless you say directly to their face, doesnt mean much. Hell, remember AoT final season trailer? Some people exclaimed "who is this guy" when Reiner appeared just because of a slight change in character design, which to this day is still unfathomable to me.

[@irmaosrodrigues1289]

@@wafan5735 because Eren was animated with WIT studio, and for the first time we would se a glance of MATURE Eren with Mappa style... it got me, if wasnt for the voice actor... well!

[@whirlwind872]

@@wafan5735 to be fair the anime didn't make it so obvious that the snowball kid was Aki, since in the manga the scene finishes hanging on kid Aki's face, and literally the next panel is adult Aki in the same pose In the anime the flashback ended, then it went to something else, then it flipped between Aki as a kid and Aki now, but there was enough happening that it would be easy to miss if you weren't paying 100% attention. Like I was sitting there watching it with my friend and he didn't understand that was supposed to be Aki until I pointed it out.

[@mperlatti]

Compare it to Darling in the Franxx

[@GreatSage91]

ko-benny

[@user-qv5do7vz5l]

Thx for all your work Really not enjoying the chainsaw part 2 manga

[@RegistryEdits]

I'm sorry to hear that :(

[@prathamdusad6892]

Why aren't you enjoying part 2?

[@SquigFace]

Really? I suppose the first couple chapters are a little slow, but I really enjoyed the build-up. And after this weeks chapter? I can't wait to see what happens next. What about it don't you enjoy?

[@BigBoss-mt1ik]

Your content is great, but why are you taking soo long to upload the next episode?

[@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961]

Manga vs Anime Comparison is the most toxic and cringed video I've ever watched.

[@nathanieljernigan1147]

Denji return to monke