The Biggest Waste of Money in Aviation History

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Not What You Think

Not What You Think

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@NotWhatYouThink
@NotWhatYouThink 6 ай бұрын
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@whyhip
@whyhip 6 ай бұрын
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@TarahVanessa
@TarahVanessa 6 ай бұрын
@@whyhipyea lol
@LordBobeus-to9yz
@LordBobeus-to9yz 6 ай бұрын
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@n.shadowbg.
@n.shadowbg. 6 ай бұрын
​@@LordBobeus-to9yzso true
@guarami1
@guarami1 6 ай бұрын
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@lhopi
@lhopi 6 ай бұрын
Ejection seats for pilots in a passenger aircraft. Something goes wrong and the pilots are like, “Best of luck suckers! We’re out of here!”
@prfwrx2497
@prfwrx2497 6 ай бұрын
Poka, suka! We're out of here!
@northerner4913
@northerner4913 6 ай бұрын
есть амфибия Бе 12, последователь Бе 6 Там есть радист, штурман, два пилота И катапультные кресла есть лишь у пилотов Радист может скинуть стеклянный блистер и спрыгнуть Но вот штурман, самый важный член экипажа который и обнаруживал всякое на воде должен был сделать действительео невероятное чтобы выжить
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 6 ай бұрын
You must have failed reading comprehension in high school english class. It was stated that the prototypes had ejection seats for the pilots, the regular production passenger models did not.
@CensoredUsername_
@CensoredUsername_ 6 ай бұрын
They were only there for the test pilots in the prototype though. I can imagine test pilots did appreciate that feature.
@cruisinguy6024
@cruisinguy6024 6 ай бұрын
@@MaxwellAerialPhotographyyou must be fun at parties 🤦‍♂️
@jeffreyskoritowski4114
@jeffreyskoritowski4114 6 ай бұрын
An aircraft that is so bad that its own design bureau wanted to cancel it. In Tupolev's opinion, it was taking resources that were needed for more urgent civil aviation projects.
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 6 ай бұрын
To be fair to the Russians: the American versions also sucked dishwater.
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 6 ай бұрын
@tjroelsma The British also wanted to cancel Concorde on the same ground… and repeatedly asked the French to let them. But the French became more stubborn as the economic prospects became worse.
@mohamadnuriman4815
@mohamadnuriman4815 5 ай бұрын
​@@calvinnickel9995 well France kinda don't want project that has been spent so much money and just to be cancelled and left rot
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 ай бұрын
@@mohamadnuriman4815 Same with Tu. Both kinda sucked in the end, less reliable, more expensive and all that for slightly more speed then normal airliner is capable of.
@mohamadnuriman4815
@mohamadnuriman4815 5 ай бұрын
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 yeah shame maybe it was too soon for the time
@ianworley8169
@ianworley8169 5 ай бұрын
In the early 90s, I worked in Twickenham, close to Heathrow Airport. I'd watch passenger planes stacked above each other, waiting their turn to land, minutes apart. Nothing came close though to seeing Concorde fly overhead. The most beautiful plane of any age. Stunnigly beautiful in silhouette.
@wewinnew
@wewinnew 12 күн бұрын
What an amazing experience! The Concorde truly was a marvel of engineering and design-a perfect blend of speed and elegance. Seeing it in silhouette must have been breathtaking, especially with its iconic delta wing shape and sleek profile.
@TUMBLINJEST
@TUMBLINJEST 11 күн бұрын
In the late 1960s I made rolls royce aero engine parts for Concorde. Its job paperwork was headed In RED INK - SECRET. but saint Concorde at the bottom. - a ruse or not I will never know. but the company I worked for on and off for 40 years was right under the flight path for our late queens birthday fly over, and we went outside one year to see Concorde flanked by fighter jets flying low some few minuets from London. HOW PROUD we all felt. In later years I and my day shift buddy made the firs 12 sets of main landing gear components that fitted the wings the UK made for Airbus A380, 2 sets for flying test planes, others for both destructive testing and non destructive testing. It was our jobs, someone had to make them. lol
@Egill2011
@Egill2011 4 күн бұрын
It is not Concorde. It is Concordski, Russian plagiarized version.
@martinv.352
@martinv.352 3 ай бұрын
You can visit both airplanes TU-144 and Concorde in Technik Museum Sinsheim, Germany, near Heidelberg.
@imanonym1147
@imanonym1147 7 күн бұрын
Yes, an the Tupolow looks way better and more modern!
@ric247
@ric247 5 ай бұрын
French and passionate about aeronautics, I was a spectator at the Paris Air Show in 1973 when the TU-144 disintegrated in flight. I absolutely did not see another plane (supposedly a Mirage III in the video) approach it. I have a clear memory of seeing the canards start to retract and the Tupolev suddenly tilt into a nosedive and then the cell break towards the wing root before the debris of the plane fell on fire towards the village of Goussainville. In the evening, on television, we will see the images but also the devastated village with 8 dead, dozens of injured and more than a hundred houses destroyed. We will also see the brutality of the police but especially of the Soviet agents who prevented people and journalists from photographing and filming the scene of the disaster. Very quickly, André Turcat, Concorde test pilot, declared on television that the Soviets were going to continue their program because they had a "...heart as big as that!". The future would prove him wrong, the accident was no longer even mentioned and the village was razed before being rebuilt.
@waverider227
@waverider227 5 ай бұрын
So I have an honest question you say there was NO other aircraft present within its flight path (ie recon mirage) Ive always heard this story (maybe its only a story) One thing is for sure is that I never (in the few grainy and dim films ) see any other aircraft within the Tu 144 flight path ) but it appears that they pulled up the aircraft too sharply leading to a stall in both the wings and one of its engines require a restart by putting it into a sharp dive and this overstressed the airframe causing the wings to snap off and the rest of the fuselage breaking up.
@ric247
@ric247 5 ай бұрын
@@waverider227 Sorry, "waveride227", but, I'm French (76 y.o.) and I was present at each "Salon du Bourget" since 1965. I'm sure to remember : 1-The accident happened when he has closed his "moustaches". 2-No other flight around the T.O. of TU-144 is possible, because during the mettings "Le Bourget", never another plane can fly during the presentation of an aircraft because will fly in very restricted crowd due to the very close presence of the Paris flats. The french fighter Mirage III was an accusatory legend during few time by french people pro-Soviet. So : How the crew of TU can saw the Mirage III coming from behind them and why nobody seen saw this french fighter from the ground ? ...
@waverider227
@waverider227 5 ай бұрын
@@ric247 thank you for cleaning up this story many thanks
@ric247
@ric247 5 ай бұрын
@@waverider227 You’re welcome waverider. It was a pleasure.
@roiq5263
@roiq5263 5 ай бұрын
What was the Soviet police even doing in France? 😮
@oml352
@oml352 5 ай бұрын
3:33 "This meant that the aircraft had no vertical stabilizer" That's completely wrong, the giant finn at the end is the vertical stabilizer. It had no horizontal stabilizers...
@Suscida
@Suscida 5 ай бұрын
Be kind, it’s half to 1/3 wrong
@rexpositor6741
@rexpositor6741 3 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment 😊
@hisnibs1121
@hisnibs1121 3 ай бұрын
. . . and at 10:05 it says that the canards were only RETRACTED during take-off and landing in order to provide extra lift at the front of the plane. Presumably these were actually only DEPLOYED/EXTENDED during take-off and landing, and retracted at all other times. 🙄
@MasterOfWarLordOfPeace
@MasterOfWarLordOfPeace 6 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes, Concordsky. Only second to Spaceshuttlesky.
@FrancisFjordCupola
@FrancisFjordCupola 6 ай бұрын
Only that's spacefaring, not aviation.
@chrispaw1
@chrispaw1 6 ай бұрын
Concordski
@человек-и3б7ь
@человек-и3б7ь 6 ай бұрын
Buran (Soviet space shuttle) was actually good even in action, tho project was canceled before first real flight
@tonyf.9806
@tonyf.9806 6 ай бұрын
Also Boneski (Tu-160 rip-off of B-1 Lancer), or Superfortresski (Tu-4 rip-off of B-29), and a whole host of other aircraft. Very little was truly novel by the soviets. They stole the general designs, then rushed the job to get it done before the west. Then the PRC learned those lessons and did the same thing, even to the Soviets/Russians, where they buy 1 copy, then reverse engineer it, leading to their current PLAAF/PLANAF designs all being cheap rip-offs, and often inferior, to their Russians and Western designs.
@hp2084
@hp2084 6 ай бұрын
​@@tonyf.9806and yet, first in space, first man in space, first woman in space, first space walk, first space station. Actually, you people are just shit who know nothing but just blabber nonsense.
@richardcoughlin8931
@richardcoughlin8931 6 ай бұрын
A passenger jet with ejection seats for the pilots is pure Soviet thinking.
@memc0282
@memc0282 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha, yes, but that's an exaggeration The ejection seats for the pilots was only for the test airplanes, not the production airplanes that will carry passengers
@DreamMonster7X
@DreamMonster7X 6 ай бұрын
Even today. Everything is about 'Me.' *** everyone else.
@carta8399
@carta8399 6 ай бұрын
It was just the prototype, in order to save the testers if something went wrong, it was said clearly, this is a comprehension issue.
@DreamMonster7X
@DreamMonster7X 6 ай бұрын
@@carta8399 Da, Da, Da!
@richardcoughlin8931
@richardcoughlin8931 5 ай бұрын
I was joking. However, giving the appalling safety record of Russian airliners, I’m surprised that you are leaping to their defense.
@Yuri_Petrov
@Yuri_Petrov 4 ай бұрын
I was born next to the factory produced it. Graduated aircraft technical college of this factory. We used to build Ilyushin planes but for short term it was Tupolev 144.
@tomchloe3208
@tomchloe3208 5 ай бұрын
I live in Bristol 🇬🇧 home of the Concorde, seen its final 5 minutes of flights as it circled above bristol. Such a beautiful jet, and i even went to visit it a year or so ago with my grandmother before she passed away, and had the joy of walking her through the plane in its hangar, holding her hand as she shared her stories of seeing its test flights. Rest in peace grandma (Dorothy)
@neilpountney9414
@neilpountney9414 16 күн бұрын
What a lovely memory Tom
@tonyhenthorn3966
@tonyhenthorn3966 6 ай бұрын
Even though I'm an American, I'll give credit where it's due. The Concorde was a technological achievement on par with the Moon landings. She entered commercial service less than 30 years after the Bell X-1 broke the sound barrier. The X-1 couldn't take off or land under its own power. It required a rocket engine and special fuels. A B-29 bomber had to carry it aloft and drop it as if it were a missile. It could only manage a short burst of powered flight and carried little to no payload. Concorde was twice as fast, could cross oceans, ran on jet engines and ordinary aviation kerosene, took off and landed just like other airplanes, and carried 100 passengers, their luggage, the finest food, and a host of flight attendants. She kept all of them in air conditioned comfort, and perfectly safe if not for an extremely unlucky piece of FOD on a Paris runway.
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 6 ай бұрын
@@tonyhenthorn3966 I am sick of hearing the Concord was canceled due it losing money. It was making a few million from 1980 on. Maybe not worth the hassle, but it was making money. Anyway I never really cared for the Concord, but I didn't know about the discrepancy between the Soviet airline, and Concord when it came to maintenence hours. 25,000 hours to 500... That is such an insane difference, and an impressive one. I wish he went into detail on why, because the Soviets for all their woes usually were not that far behind the West. Or so I thought. That rivals airliner engines today I think. Although I couldn't really get an average when googling. Mostly flight cycles. Liquid Pistons X Engine which is a form of rotary engine cannot even get over 1,000 hours before a rebuild, lol. They need to step up. (JK. Jet engines don't have apex seals.)
@stabilo3170
@stabilo3170 5 ай бұрын
Was a real pleasure to read your comment about the Concorde, cheers from Toulouse!👍
@xponen
@xponen 5 ай бұрын
@@dianapennepacker6854 it would be interesting if Soviet industry is still around, there's philosophical difference for sure. I mean design decision like why their power drill uses ball bearing instead of sleeve, why chose piston engine for their tank instead of turbine.
@jiggsborah7041
@jiggsborah7041 5 ай бұрын
It's a pity that the United States got mired in politics and problems with the environmentalists and crazy people. The Boeing design was beautiful.
@stabilo3170
@stabilo3170 5 ай бұрын
@Anti-Fake-ul9oe OK, you'r laughing, now explain why? If you are able.
@Andronicus2007
@Andronicus2007 5 ай бұрын
Well, the American SST project cost a billion dollars, and never even left the ground! (Because Boeing only had a mock up made of plywood!) 😅
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs 5 ай бұрын
The manufacturers early on knew the SST concept wouldn't work, but it was demanded of them by the government. So they worked on the concepts while at the same time developing new commercial aircraft that would go on to regular service. This included the 737 and 747, legendary aircraft that served the world well. They dropped the SST programs literally as soon as the government called it off.
@Andronicus2007
@Andronicus2007 5 ай бұрын
@@Oldbmwr100rs Boeing stuffed up with the swing wing design (later dropped as it's too heavy) and an unrealistic top speed (Mach 3 or something). Much of the aircraft had to then be made of titanium, which they didn't have much experience in using. The 2707 project was a failure, sure they had some great designs with the 747, 727, 737 etc.
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs 5 ай бұрын
@@Andronicus2007 It's like I said, they really weren't interested in doing the actual plane, between Lockheed, Douglas and Boeing all kinds of stuff kept changing, I believe Boeing started taking cues from Lockheed and Douglas dropped out early. By the time the Concorde was getting further along, in the US environmental groups were pushing for bans in supersonic travel over the continent. The entire thing was a huge waste of time and money and that was figured out early on. They had bigger ambitions in larger scale passenger travel. Only reason the SST project lasted as long as it did was due o our government demanding it without listening to anyone. They didn't want to be "left behind" by the concorde or soviets, and both of those projects were between disasters and huge wastes of money. The British basically gave up their entire aircraft manufacturing because of this project. Boeing went on to lead the world in production airliners.
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke 4 ай бұрын
With a far greater knowledge and experience in supersonic aircraft than the British the Americans quickly concluded that SSTs were not going to be commercially viable and predicted the failure of Concorde. Boeing built the 747 instead and the results were dramatically different Boeing became the largest aerospace company in the world while Britain no longer makes any jet aircraft of its own today. Concorde was an epic failure that led to the destruction of the country's entire jet aircraft industry.
@EncephalonBubble
@EncephalonBubble 6 ай бұрын
I’m midway through the video and I already see a lot of errors in it… 1. They removed the horizontal stabiliser, not the vertical 2. The canards extend during takeoff and landing and not the other way around 3. It is believed that the engineers extended the limits of the FBW just before the paris air show to try and have a better presentation than the concorde, and those changes broke the stability of the Tu-144 which lead to its crash. However the Mirage was indeed present, and we don’t really know if it was a contributing factor.
@acx1337
@acx1337 5 ай бұрын
not to mention that the soviet manufacturing at that time WAS inferior to the western counterparts and their spies stole technology that was deliberately wrong, didn't see through that and actually implemented the stole wrong design lol
@ВасилийКоровин-г9э
@ВасилийКоровин-г9э 5 ай бұрын
It was not. Otherwise Soviet government would have taken the chance to blame the French. Instead they tried to blame a cameraman who was in the cockpit. Like he dropped his camera which blocked control stick. They tried to recreate it in the mock-up of the cockpit, but camera didn't fit into control stick shaft. So they had to enlarge it for the recreation to succeed.
@juancarlostelleztellez5731
@juancarlostelleztellez5731 Ай бұрын
for sure, it was and a very criminal, irresponsible action ...
@Your-local-a220
@Your-local-a220 Ай бұрын
All of the dangers of the tu-144 aside, the tu-144 was still a beautiful bird.
@lycian123
@lycian123 5 ай бұрын
The test bed had ejection seats but the prototype and 14 production models didn't. Paris airshow proved that. Been on both Concorde and TU144, albeit in static at Sinsheim. No ejection seats.
@-Owly-
@-Owly- 6 ай бұрын
Zahnrädchen --> Audiotrack--> da könnt ihr die originale englische Tonspur wieder einschalten :)
@blexy2969
@blexy2969 6 ай бұрын
Das Feature ist so nervig... Ich hab Deutsch und Englisch als meine Sprachen eingegeben, warum will KZbin mich ständig zwingen Titel und sogar Videos auf Deutsch anzusehen.
@thomasrichard7054
@thomasrichard7054 6 ай бұрын
Aber dann verpasst man solche sprachlichen Highlights wie die „schwanzlosen Flugzeuge”. 😢😂
@-Owly-
@-Owly- 6 ай бұрын
@@thomasrichard7054 😂
@mz00956
@mz00956 5 ай бұрын
3:50
@maskeradedarkstar6632
@maskeradedarkstar6632 5 ай бұрын
Habe mich schon gewundert, warum es so nach KI generiert anhörte. In englisch ist es wesentlich angenehme...auch wenn ich nicht alles 100% verstehe.
@chrisi06
@chrisi06 6 ай бұрын
The NK-144 engines were actually turbofans and not turbojets like Concorde's ones, and Turbofans are just not suituable for supersonic flight. Nevertheless those engines were way more complex for their time as the development of Turbofan engines had just begun at this time. Therefore, the Tu-144D uses turbojets after the Tu-144S used the turbofans. Speaking about Tu-144's "Flight control augmentation system" called ABSU - automatic onboard control system, it acted pretty like an FBW in fact, just not like an Airbus one. More like a Boeing one, you still need to trim the aircraft when flying manually but there's no physical connection between controls in the cockpit and control surfaces, and all feedback forces are synthetically generated. In the Soviet Union it was called a "Booster control system" and was also used on the Tu-154 for example. ABSU cross-controlled ailerons, elevators (which were the same in the case of the Tu-144, obviously) and rudder, applying all the dampings if needed. So yes, pretty much Boeing-like FBW. And speaking about other avoinics it was far more advanced than on the Concorde. The Tu-144's cockpit looks more modern than Concorde's one. The engineers panel on Tupolev has from 1,5 to 2 times less gauges and switches, in fact the automation was so high that the flight engeneer just had to monitor the panel and toggle one single switch 2 times during the whole flight (yes, a bit oversiplified, but still), even fuel balancing (known as the main headache of those supersonics) was fully automated. And the navigation system was just a marvel for mid 1970s. 30 waypoints in memory (10 in Concorde), 100-meters-precision INS over 5,600 km leg using automatic beacon correction, several alternates which can be flown to by autopilot by one click, automatic holding patterns, 15-inch moving map, etc. You can even pick any point on that map, push 2 buttons and the autopilot will fly you to that point. Maybe only L-1011 Tristar was more advanced at the time. To conclude, it's such a shame that this airplane just hasn't shown its full potential. It was innovative in every acpect, sometimes not fully successful, the engines for example (though they were lately developed into NK-32 - the best high-thrust supersonic turbofans in the world, installed onto Tu-160), and sometimes marvelously good. But nevertheless, every engineer working on this project put a part of his soul into it back than.
@tonyhenthorn3966
@tonyhenthorn3966 6 ай бұрын
It is odd that Tupolev chose turbofans, whereas Boeing and the European consortium went with turbojets. Maybe the turbofans were more readily available because Soviet bombers and strike aircraft used them. They make sense for warbirds that usually fly subsonic, but need to accelerate and climb quickly while carrying heavy weapon loads. Such jets can go supersonic, but only for short dashes as needed in combat. Turbojets are better for sustained high Mach flight in the stratosphere, since the air is so thin it isn't necessary to "bypass" any of it.
@chrisi06
@chrisi06 6 ай бұрын
@@tonyhenthorn3966 No, many soviet bombers like the Tu-22 which had their first flight before the Tu-144 had turbojets.
@dash_lp
@dash_lp 6 ай бұрын
Ehm - then why does the Eurofighter also use Turbofan engines and is even capable of supercruise with those? (Google EJ200)
@chrisi06
@chrisi06 6 ай бұрын
@@dash_lp Tu 144 first flight: 1968 Eurofighter Typhoon first flight: 1994 The technology behind supersonic turbofan engines has just rapidly developed. As such, the Tu-160, like I already said in my comment, also uses turbofans. Those where also used on the Tu-144ll which therefore and similar range as Concorde but still flew faster. Also, fighter jets do not fly supersonic all the team, just take a moment and read the comment from @tonyhenthorn3966
@dash_lp
@dash_lp 6 ай бұрын
@@chrisi06 but if the Soviet’s used turbofans with low bypass it’s not that different from the eurofighter engines and therefore more suitable for supersonic speeds 🤔
@Quentin-d9q
@Quentin-d9q 6 ай бұрын
i love the ears of the tu144
@Haroun-El-Poussah
@Haroun-El-Poussah 5 ай бұрын
It's called moustaches. French tech copied by the Soviets (Dassault Patent, used on the Mirage Milan)
@tomchloe3208
@tomchloe3208 5 ай бұрын
Im British 🇬🇧 and i also think it has a very pretty look. This era of aviation was so cool. But this jet seems very scary
@Haroun-El-Poussah
@Haroun-El-Poussah 5 ай бұрын
@@tomchloe3208 Well, russian copy of a French-Brit jet...crasher...
@denisjammet9487
@denisjammet9487 5 ай бұрын
Oui. Ce film est avant tout americain et par jalousie ils véhiculent cette histoire de Mirage au dessus lors de la démonstration du Bourget. Bref une chaîne peu fiable. Il existe des centaines de reportages sur cette histoire. Vaut mieux les regarder eux !
@Haroun-El-Poussah
@Haroun-El-Poussah 5 ай бұрын
@@denisjammet9487 They couldn't even take the Boeing 2707 airborne, for sure they were jealous!
@donr2176
@donr2176 2 ай бұрын
I visited both the Concorde aircraft F-BVFB and the Tupolev Tu-144 at the superb "Auto and Technik Museum" at Sinsheim, Germany. Both aircraft are on pylons in their take off mode, so you are pretty high up. ! You enter both aircraft by climbing a staircase at the rear of both planes. I thought the Tupolev although larger than the Concorde was not nearly as well finished.. however both are pretty impressive.. Also on pylons are a Lufthansa 747, at their second museum at nearby Speyer plus an Antonov An-22- the world's largest propeller driven plane! It has four engines each turning twin contra-rotating props. My visit was 14 years back.. It is possible to stay there in a very reasonable hotel. You will need at least two days -or more to see all exhibits! I spent 3 very enjoyable days.
@billmullins6833
@billmullins6833 5 ай бұрын
Slight quibble: You said the TU-144 had no vertical stabilizer. That is incorrect. It very much had a vertical stabilizer. What it did not have was a horizontal stabilizer. Being a delta wing the elevators were included in the trailing edge of the wing.
@ntdscherer
@ntdscherer 6 ай бұрын
The canards would extend during takeoff and landing, and retract at other times (the opposite of what the video says).
@Matthew-Anthony
@Matthew-Anthony 6 ай бұрын
𝚆𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚠𝚑𝚎𝚗 𝚒𝚝 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚋𝚎𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚋𝚞𝚒𝚕𝚝, 𝚘𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚍 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚏𝚕𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚌𝚛𝚊𝚏𝚝 𝚢𝚘𝚞𝚛𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏?
@purplestrawberrysunset
@purplestrawberrysunset 6 ай бұрын
So why did the French jet follow it if the canards are not even extended normally?
@vasopel
@vasopel 5 ай бұрын
@@purplestrawberrysunset "retract at other times", those "other times" are when it flies at high altitude.
@ntdscherer
@ntdscherer 5 ай бұрын
@@purplestrawberrysunset It was flying above right after takeoff
@Haroun-El-Poussah
@Haroun-El-Poussah 5 ай бұрын
@@purplestrawberrysunset There was no Mirage-III, fake news!
@jh6031
@jh6031 6 ай бұрын
A very well done look at the Soviet approach to supersonic public transport. With a lot of footage I’ve never seen before, along with many new facts I wasn’t aware of, this look at the Tu-144 was an unexpected pleasure to watch. Thanks for the great content! Keep it up!
@D3monL3A1
@D3monL3A1 5 ай бұрын
As usual the idiots in the comments point out ejection seats but those were only for the test variants would not want to waste good pilots on an unrelable a nothing to do with the comercial versions
@karlwalther
@karlwalther 5 ай бұрын
Да кому это интересно?!
@christianantonioburgospere7848
@christianantonioburgospere7848 5 ай бұрын
​@@karlwalthera mi me importa....
@villano9688
@villano9688 5 ай бұрын
Torryl Putin-lover detectado 🤬🤬😊😊😊
@jskratnyarlathotep8411
@jskratnyarlathotep8411 5 ай бұрын
you're right. 50 hour lifetime for each of 4 engines, that's the real joke here =D
@Radlschorsch
@Radlschorsch 5 ай бұрын
@Anti-Fake-ul9oe nö die hatten nur zu wenig gut ausgebildete
@doyoulikejazz9516
@doyoulikejazz9516 5 ай бұрын
"general believe that the soviets were technologically inferior, is widely overblown" directly followed by "yes they stole design documents, the technology was less sophisticated, the pilots knew the plane was dangerous" is pretty funny
@juancarlostelleztellez5731
@juancarlostelleztellez5731 Ай бұрын
no, is not...
@dmitrybobrov
@dmitrybobrov 3 ай бұрын
“D” stands for Dalniy means distant. I flew on tu 144, 77112 to Khabarovsk. This plane is in Germany
@cestaron634
@cestaron634 6 ай бұрын
I must say that the end bit about the US and Russia working together for research on the Tu144 is how it should be. Working together to grow and learn.
@alexander_d1277
@alexander_d1277 6 ай бұрын
I agree. it should in theory. but what can you grow together with a homicidal maniac?
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 6 ай бұрын
We tried. It doesn't work. Programs when you work together between seem to just cost more with more hassle. I feel bad for the smart Russians. They all left the country. Doesn't seem like we will be seeing a competitor from them in a while if ever. I cannot believe the life span of the engines and frame compared to the Concord. I kinda wish he did a deep dive on why it is such a large discrepancy since the Soviets were not usually that far behind when they put their resources to it. Truly wild.
@SN57ONE
@SN57ONE 6 ай бұрын
@@dianapennepacker6854 Thank your politicians for that one.
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 6 ай бұрын
@@SN57ONE Yeah politicans and buisnesses in each country crying and whining about getting a piece of the program. Then you have things like commmunication issues, and supply issues. "Hey Slovokia is in the program! They can design X part even though they suck at that part, and shipping costs will increase!" Anyway the buisnesses themselves are too blame too. All the small issues pile up. I read the supply chain behind joint programs between countries just simply is usually garbage.
@28ebdh3udnav
@28ebdh3udnav 6 ай бұрын
"The biggest waste of money in aviation history" Boeing: hold my beer
@jpdemer5
@jpdemer5 5 ай бұрын
I don't think the A380 ever earned a profit for Airbus - how much they lost, overall, could be comparable to what Tupolev spent.
@dmitryisakov8769
@dmitryisakov8769 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Plus F-35 comes to mind - supersonic money guzzler
@rapidthrash1964
@rapidthrash1964 5 ай бұрын
Dassault Mercure: Hold my wine
@evaluateanalysis7974
@evaluateanalysis7974 4 ай бұрын
@@dmitryisakov8769 It might be expensive, but it's streets ahead of any of your aircraft Ivan. Может быть, это и дороговато, но это на порядок выше любого вашего самолета Ивана.
@evaluateanalysis7974
@evaluateanalysis7974 4 ай бұрын
@@jpdemer5...there is a slight difference. The A380 was a success as an aircraft.
@engenius11
@engenius11 6 ай бұрын
The technologies that were tested on the Tu-144 formed part of the successful Tu-160 program, which quietly flies all 14,000 km in cruising mode, but can also be supersonic.
@stabilo3170
@stabilo3170 5 ай бұрын
But the TU-160 is not a civil aircraft carrying 100 pax in a comfort like the Concorde and the engines have a very limited life.
@engenius11
@engenius11 5 ай бұрын
@@stabilo3170 In the USSR, any advanced west programs were primarily considered from the point of view of military use against the USSR. And any projects usually had a dual purpose, especially those launched in the 50s and 60s. In the 70s, a separate civil aviation industry was already formed, but still civilian aircraft were built as dual-use - with a reinforced fuselage, chassis and proven, but old engines. By the end of the 80s, the industry began to deviate from the norms of the military, but by this time the economic situation of the USSR and political stability had been undermined. And in the 90s, the oligarchs and officials almost destroyed the industry because they could not finance it.
@bibbr4137
@bibbr4137 5 ай бұрын
@@stabilo3170 to put it simply, supersonic passenger aircraft were just unfeasible in a communist economy. it was already a sinking ship in the west where only the wealthy was able to afford a flight, in a communist country it was pretty much unsustainable
@KRAMITDFROG
@KRAMITDFROG 5 ай бұрын
​@@engenius11 This is true. The Tu-95, which is still in use, had a civil counterpart, the Tu-114.
@mickday1260
@mickday1260 5 ай бұрын
@@stabilo3170Are you jealous at Russian airforce.
@joe2mercs
@joe2mercs 4 күн бұрын
Almost every technical aspect of the Concorde was impressive. The comparative figures for air frame and engine service life of the two projects demonstrated that the Anglo French team fully understood what they were doing while their Soviet rivals did not. The Concorde team knew from the outset that the only reliable power unit they had to work with was the Roll Royce Olympus engine and therefore they effectively designed their airframe around it. The wings created high levels of lift at relatively slow landing speeds but also had low levels of drag at supersonic speeds and that also created a high pressure wave below the leading edge. The engine intakes were positioned to ‘feed’ off this high pressure wave to ensure that the engines were not starved of air. The engine intakes also included computer controlled ramps to slow down super sonic shock waves entering the engines to the subsonic speeds needed for efficient engine operation. The Soviets made overtures to have access to this technology but were denied. Anyone who saw and heard a Concorde will attest to its use of after-burners at takeoff but its long range flight capability required that the engines maintain Mach 2+ without use of after-burners.
@marian7965
@marian7965 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the Tu-144 was not state of art plane, but on otherside, the lessons learned on that project wasn´t just waste of money. They learned a lot, and improve it, so much. Maybe not the best airliner, but definitely a milestone for another military projects, which cames like Tu-160 White Swan. So either you win, or you learn... Last thing, they did it, at least. Build it, maybe not perfect, but made it. And then NASA decades later cames to learn something. :)
@andrewthornley5172
@andrewthornley5172 5 ай бұрын
I can understand why some people think this aircraft is a copy of the Concorde. But in reality if you are engineering two different aircraft to achieve the same goals, you are going to get something that looks similar. It is like saying a Ford car is a rip-off of a Toyota car because they both have four wheels and an engine.
@ashleygoggs5679
@ashleygoggs5679 Ай бұрын
yes and no, while there will be some simularities to have something looks almost identical is insane. We have planes that do the same job and come in all shapes and sizes from wings tips, fuselage etc. even jet fighters look different. the thing is when a design proves to be the best at what it does thats when you get copy cats. The soviets were behind and they stole planes from concorde then they changed elements that fitted their design philosophy and manufacturing. If the USSR was capable of building top quality machinery mark my words they would have built a proper concorde knockoff.
@MH-fb5kr
@MH-fb5kr Ай бұрын
the soviet’s also stole the Concordes design plans
@-oysterthief4444
@-oysterthief4444 18 күн бұрын
The damn commies stole everything from the establishment, still do! Their economic model dissuades innovation but encourages the copycat model, but usually with more guns or engines… so it’s more better
@JackF99
@JackF99 17 күн бұрын
The Soviets have been making copies of Western aircraft since just after World War II.
@philgooddr.7850
@philgooddr.7850 5 ай бұрын
Backfire Tu 22 M3 used the same reactors, and is still in operations and being modernised ,,over 500 were built..the passager supersonic program helped Tupolev to develop improved bombers TU-22M3 and TU160 far better than previous TU22 Blinder. The Reactors from Klimov NK 144-22 derated coming from the TU 144 to Kouznetzov NK 22,NK23 puis NK25 , the reactors upgrades have been the main struggles for range and speed…the Tu 144 was also upgraded to Koliesev RD36-51 to reach Mach 2.15 on TU144D and finally in the late 1990 to the TU 160 bomber Kouznetzov NK321 turbofans for a top speed of Mach 2.3 on the TU 144 LL, a joint research program with NASA funds !!! But none of all those like the Concorde were commercially viable . A much lighter composite air frame flying higher and faster is required to regain some efficiency with thinner air around…and there also the conventional turbojet propulsion systems are also speed limited at Mach 2-2.4 …A Cryogenic liquid H2 to reach cruising speed and altitude which requires near 1/2 of the energy…is also a weight saving potential then cruising on kerosene as the airframe heats up..there the current Boom program is not ambitious enough,,
@hashimbenhashim5417
@hashimbenhashim5417 2 ай бұрын
Are you sure it was the biggest waste of money in aviation history?
@lioneljacrot8523
@lioneljacrot8523 4 ай бұрын
Le principal défaut du TU144 par rapport au Concorde, c'était ses réacteurs qui nécessitaient de conserver la postcombustion pour maintenir le vol supersonique, il en résultait un énorme bruit en cabine et une consommation effrayante qui limitait le rayon d'action. Pour le reste il n'y a pas grand chose à dire, Le Concorde a aussi été fabriqué à 15 exemplaires est est donc tout autant un gâchis d'argent. Les Américains ont lâchés l'affaire car ils ont réalisé plus tôt que le projet n'était pas viable.
@christianshields4164
@christianshields4164 6 ай бұрын
Not What You Think Narrator: Just like that DC8 made history you can make your own mark in the skies with War Thunder!! Me: Smoooottthhh!
@Rotorhead1651
@Rotorhead1651 6 ай бұрын
It was also the first supersonic commercial jet TO CRASH.
@garymilne8900
@garymilne8900 6 ай бұрын
one crash in 27 years still makes it the safest jet in the skies, you bell end.
@RonSchuurman-td7yj
@RonSchuurman-td7yj 3 ай бұрын
Well it had to be one or the other as there were only two of them and lets be real they both crashed once.
@userhessenone1469
@userhessenone1469 3 ай бұрын
​@@RonSchuurman-td7yjwrong, Tu 144 crashed twice
@Bamoceanographic
@Bamoceanographic 2 ай бұрын
Good, but not all in this documentary is factually correct. The sight of the French Mirage as a factor in the 1973 crash was never proven.
@eugenesuhanov104
@eugenesuhanov104 13 күн бұрын
Actually, the Concorde was a bigger money pit than the TU-144, not only they were sold at a symbolic quid to the 2 respective airlines rendering the entire R&D worthless, but they also operated at a consistent loss for over 27 years. The Concorde, together with the A380 are regarded as one the biggest money failures in the aviation industry.
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 2 күн бұрын
British Airways made £500 million profit (after tax) on Concorde operations between 1982 and 2000.
@Guspech750
@Guspech750 5 ай бұрын
Wow. To be a pilot who had flow both the Concord and TU144 is something special.
@ВасилийКоровин-г9э
@ВасилийКоровин-г9э 5 ай бұрын
11:00 Crash was not due to collision avoidance. That flight was before load testing of airframe, so it couldn't withstand 4g. And the aircraft was in experimental state, so some command lines were connected through a patch panel. And cabin engineer connected it wrong, so in certain moment canards went to extreme position and plane made a turn experiencing 4.5g. 18:30 "Dorabotaniy" ("Доработанный") means "upgraded". "Finished" would be "Законченный" ("Zakoncheniy").
@richardvanberghem4881
@richardvanberghem4881 5 ай бұрын
bonjour j'ai vu le TU exploser en plein vol à ce moment il était en piqué , l'avion aurait décroché et tentait de reprendre de la vitesse pour voler les forte contrainte aurait casser la cellule en deux suivie d'une boule de feux dans le ciel . le crash c'est fait sur la petite ville de Dugny tuant plusieurs personnes .
@ccdd9298
@ccdd9298 28 күн бұрын
@@richardvanberghem4881 sur Goussainville pas Dugny !!!
@TCBElvisAPresley
@TCBElvisAPresley 5 ай бұрын
Despite the issues with the Tu-144 (and the Concorde), I gotta say -- they were both _seriously cool_ looking planes.
@znarqamshlu6720
@znarqamshlu6720 5 ай бұрын
بارك اللة فيك 👍👍كانك موهاندز وا ميكانيكي الكونكر علا شرحك 💐💞👍
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 4 ай бұрын
I heard a story that after the crash, the Politburo demanded reports from the Paris KGB and GRU residencies. The GRU had loads of people at the show with cine cameras, and the KGB guys weren't interested. Andropov, then KGB head asked the GRU boss for one film from the show so he had something for the Politburo. The GRU guy said. 'Chairman Andropov, I'll not give you one film, I'll copy them all and send them to you for 10 am tomorrow, after we've shown the Politburo them at 9.30.' Andropov slammed down the phone.
@darrenwalters6339
@darrenwalters6339 5 ай бұрын
I recon the Boeing 2707 has to be up there with one of the biggest waste of money in aviation, over a billion dollars spent on it (that’s like 7 billion dollars today) and they only managed to make a wooden mock up version of it
@AndyBonesSynthPro
@AndyBonesSynthPro 5 ай бұрын
Probably one thing accelerating to the inevitable doom of Tu-144- especially as a propaganda tool was their missed opportunity to give it a real name, something memorable & elegant like "Concorde". Concordski became its not-so-dignified moniker, a bit of a jab, at a pretty impressive- yet reckless attempt to upstage Western innovation. The fact that the USSR was even able to put something like this in the air with their massive financial & technological limitations is commendable. But you can see the cut-corners of the Tupolev just looking at the two supersonic airliners from a distance. Concorde is absolutely gorgeous, refined, brimming with quality and superior engineering, and obviously its track record, however ludicrously expensive & unattainable for the masses. It's still a monument to Western achievement in aerospace excellence. The Tu-144 is also a sight to behold, but it is visibly rough around the edges, looking like something built with extreme aspirations and vastly overextended means. The shapes, panels, engine clusters/ nacelles, even the visible rivets- like most Soviet aircraft ring of a rushed prototype greenlit into production. That characteristic still plagues modern russian efforts at attempting some level of tech parity with US & European machines, even if it's just for showcase & political theatre. It does make for some very interesting, sort of bizarre artifacts of desperate cultural aspiration to achieve similar feats of innovation. I do salute the men & women who made these things possible under the immense pressure of authoritarian demands, and little reward for their impressive work.
@cesarvidelac
@cesarvidelac 6 ай бұрын
I watched an interview made during the 90s to the son of Andrei Tupolev, he said that KGB forced his father to use the Intel that KGB stole from France. He had almost completed the engineering of the wings but the Party wanted to accelerate the completion of the prototype so they coerced him to get the work done using that data. He was a genius, no doubt, but Soviet engineers were always pressed to the point of risking being accused of treason, like Bartini and Koroliev.
@mothmagic1
@mothmagic1 6 ай бұрын
Many years ago BBC ran a mini series of 4 programmes entitled The Story Behind The Headlines or something like that. The story of the Tu144 was one of them. Another was how Israel managed to build their own Mirage's after France refused to sell them more than the test airframes they had provided. What the other 2 were about I can't remember.
@engenius11
@engenius11 6 ай бұрын
Tell your great story to Edward Snowden or Julian Assange
@alexander_d1277
@alexander_d1277 6 ай бұрын
@@engenius11you drank to much copium, go home troll
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 4 ай бұрын
Nevermind of course the fact that he was arrested and then "detained" in a Secretive NKVD(pre-KGB) Design Bureau for like 6 years between 1938 and 1944 and you can twist that to push any narrative as these "documentaries" usually do. I mean the KGB hasn't existed since 1993 and people in Western countries still talk about it like it still exists.
@ccdd9298
@ccdd9298 28 күн бұрын
@@mothmagic1Dassault is not his real name 😁😁😁
@DemonioDorado
@DemonioDorado 3 ай бұрын
The eye seats were for the TU-144 testing phase. It is epic to have to comment on something so logical. They had their similarities but the Concoder and the Tu-144 were very different. Likewise both were a failure, except that the Concorde was much more beautiful and carried out several commercial flights.- Likewise in What respects in Copy and Paste no country is saved. Since the fall of Nazism, a large part of the military projects of the United States and the Soviet Union were projects or designs carried out by Nazi engineers and designers. As it is also public knowledge that the United States, after the fall of the USSR, used many of their designs. Without going that far the f35... fully designed and applied in the YAK 141. China does exactly the same with the Russian/Soviet and North American designs... And I'm sorry, but the top 1 in waste has been the f35... 18 years since its first flight and devouring money without reaching a final phase without problems.. If this were the result of a Russian fighter we would already know that we would all agree :)
@newIrons
@newIrons Ай бұрын
I bought a model of this from a german museum that had this parked on the roof. It is still one of my favorite models.
@gerritvanderozenberg5166
@gerritvanderozenberg5166 5 ай бұрын
TU 144 was operational before the concorde, Nasa used them for year after the concorde was decomissioned and the TU144 was used for supersonic testing
@jkbrbc
@jkbrbc 6 ай бұрын
There are both aircrafts few meters apart in one german museum. Cockpit of TU-144 was like a being in ww2 submarine - really messy compare to Concorde. I can't imagine how brave pilots must have been to fly over mach 2 with this machine. Wild engineering. Clarkson: POWEEEEER!
@rebelgaming1.5.14
@rebelgaming1.5.14 5 ай бұрын
Second aircraft being a totally different design? Sounds a lot like the Tu-22 and Tu-22M. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@ucruci
@ucruci 3 ай бұрын
Did the Soviets seriously think that if successful, the West would have bought their supersonic passenger jets in large numbers??
@ragelorenz2776
@ragelorenz2776 3 ай бұрын
I wish I would've able to see the Concorde. This jet is the reason I fell in luv with the SR-71..
@doctorstrangelove9487
@doctorstrangelove9487 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t go that far it was an effort to build a SST and they succeeded. May be ahead of its time, may be it didn’t have commercial market value back then but doesn’t take away all the hard work and engineering that went toward the project.
@guarami1
@guarami1 6 ай бұрын
Who else clicks "LIKE" before the video even starts? Love this guy!!
@stolaire
@stolaire 5 ай бұрын
>The Biggest Waste of Money in Aviation History You need a reminder about Boeing 2707, that not even built and almost bankrupted Boeing?
@elv202
@elv202 5 ай бұрын
Don't Cry Commie Baby
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308 5 ай бұрын
How about the A380?
@calebemerson9317
@calebemerson9317 9 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure that was funded by the taxpayer. Also I’m pretty sure it was the 747 project that almost did Boeing in because most of the R&D was out of their own pocket… well I think it turned out alright for them.
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 2 күн бұрын
​@@calebemerson9317it was the 747 that nearly bankrupted Boeing, because, as you said, they mostly financed it themselves (with some help from Pan-Am). The taxpayers were funding the sst, with the cream of Boeing's engineers (well, they thought they were) working on it.
@aa.8823
@aa.8823 6 ай бұрын
18:30 it's not really "finished", but more like "improved". Also suits better.
@Klemmbaustein-Messi
@Klemmbaustein-Messi 21 күн бұрын
22:00 Rob Rivers was the only pilot who flies the TU-144 and Concorde. And the technic museum Sinsheim in Germany is the onliest museum wich has both airplanes 🤗
@penduloustesticularis1202
@penduloustesticularis1202 5 ай бұрын
"The Tu144 had ejection seats for the pilots", - leaving the passengers to figure things out for themselves. 🤣🤣
@huskydaddy-y5y
@huskydaddy-y5y 5 ай бұрын
What? I can’t hear you the engines are so loud!! I said PASS THE VODKA WE’RE GOING DOWN!!!!
@robtrawick1
@robtrawick1 5 ай бұрын
@@huskydaddy-y5y 🤣
@blacklightretro
@blacklightretro 5 ай бұрын
during test flights (that's what they were for, then) there weren't passengers until later, alexei.
@ИгорьЦибизов-в4ф
@ИгорьЦибизов-в4ф 5 ай бұрын
Why sad to you this shit? Or when you reed it? I think your brain need ejection seats bro 😂
@tonyhenthorn3966
@tonyhenthorn3966 6 ай бұрын
I don't believe the Tu-144 was a "dumb" idea at the time. It looked like the future of commercial air travel was supersonic. "Detente" with the West meant America and its allies might be open to buying Soviet made products, including planes. The Boeing SST started late, and the US Senate pulled the plug on it, creating a "vacuum" for such aircraft should demand for them have grown. The USSR needed export money from more sources than just certain minerals, natural gas, oil, and weapons, for the vast country was a net food importer. Hindsight is 20/20, and we now know Mach busting jets, be they American, European, or Soviet in origin, didn't make good business sense for the airlines.
@tz8785
@tz8785 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, but the Tu-144 was a rush job and it showed. Cabin noise during flight made conversations impossible, it was plagued by mechanical trouble and the thirsty engines resulted in a fairly short range (although that one was improved before the model was withdrawn). There were only a bit more than 100 commercial flights.
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke 4 ай бұрын
All SSTs are a "dumb" idea... Concorde was the biggest failure in commercial aviation history and destroyed the UK aircraft industry... Boeing and the Americans with far more knowledge and experience in supersonic aircraft realized that SSTs were not commercially viable, Boeing built the 747 instead and the rest is history. Today Boeing is the largest aerospace manufacturer in the world while the British? no longer make any jet aircraft!
@evaluateanalysis7974
@evaluateanalysis7974 4 ай бұрын
It wasn't a dumb idea, but it was a dumb aeroplane.
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke 4 ай бұрын
@@tz8785 All SSTs were a dumb idea... Concorde was also ultimately a failure, and its dead-end concept saw no commercial sales or follow-up designs. The Concorde has been plagued with technical and safety issues from day one and was eventually grounded due to serious safety related design defects that were deliberately covered up for years.
@moel8230
@moel8230 6 ай бұрын
As a German I want to listen this clip in english!
@vincentreim8962
@vincentreim8962 6 ай бұрын
Einstellung>Audiotrack>Englisch
@RGBcrafter
@RGBcrafter 6 ай бұрын
the german track is weird
@louis2303
@louis2303 6 ай бұрын
I hate taht it always switches back to the german audio track, even if I set my location AND language to english :( so annoying
@NotWhatYouThink
@NotWhatYouThink 6 ай бұрын
Hey, just curious, does it sound weird in German, or is it the translation? Basically, if you could only understand German, would you be able to watch the video? Thanks!!
@ldIezz
@ldIezz 6 ай бұрын
@@NotWhatYouThink Congrats on 3 million!!
@lukeleung8505
@lukeleung8505 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@NotWhatYouThink
@NotWhatYouThink 4 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for your support!
@georgigeorgiev6756
@georgigeorgiev6756 4 ай бұрын
From a practical point of view, the Concorde is also a failure. High maintenance costs, the price of fuel, expensive tickets and a small number of destinations are some of the negatives. The only companies operating the Concorde are British Airways and Air France, despite the big advertising campaign. In fact, every flight of the Concorde, as well as of the Tu-144, was carried out at a loss. Only a small circle of people could afford to fly on this type of aircraft, which led to a gradual decrease in the number of flights. After the single accident in 2022, the cost of maintaining the aircraft became impossible for the operating companies as well as the imposed requirements for noise and fuel due to which Concorde flights were finally suspended in 2003. While the Soviet authorities realized this point, therefore the Tu-144 did not perform for a long time civilian flights and was decommissioned at the expense of more conventional aircraft such as Tu-154, IL-62. The problem with the Concorde, however, comes from the fact that the two companies have agreements to operate the aircraft for a certain period of time due to the investment in development. From an engineering point of view, both aircraft are mechanical masterpieces. At a later stage, the Tu-144 was used by NASA to perform experimental flights.
@williammurphy3766
@williammurphy3766 3 ай бұрын
At the small aviation museum east of Gloucester, 110 miles west of London, there is a model of Concorde in Lufthansa colours. A fascinating relic of the German airline's interest in possibly operating a supersonic service from Frankfurt or Berlin to Tokyo. Unfortunately, as it would have to land two or three times to refuel, it would have taken as long as a modern airliner flying non stop.
@georgigeorgiev6756
@georgigeorgiev6756 3 ай бұрын
​@@williammurphy3766 Yes, Lufthansa has shown interest by ordering 3 aircraft and making the payments on the order. After perhaps realizing what the operating costs would be, they refused the order and were refunded.
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 2 күн бұрын
Every flight made a loss? BA made £500 million in profit between 1982 and 2000 on Concorde flights, not sure how they did if every flight made a loss.
@georgigeorgiev6756
@georgigeorgiev6756 2 күн бұрын
@ And the developing program costs 1.5-2.1 billion. From 1976 to 1982 they flew at a loss, the first year with profit. And profit from 300 k for month just from one plane is not that grateful. When you have the other airlines making more with less expensive aircraft’s
@abdel0127
@abdel0127 5 ай бұрын
Not What You Think non ce n'est pas gaspillage d'argent c'est surtout surtout une bonne expérience pour faire autre chose pour faire avancer la technologie
@Delirium132231
@Delirium132231 6 ай бұрын
Love your pronunciation of 'dorabotaniy', sound like some remote village name in deep forest with population of 13.5 people :) More precise translation will be 'revised' I guess
@superhover
@superhover 6 ай бұрын
Dorabotanny means combination of fixed/improved. I wonder that the abbreviation was even possible because it assumes that the previous model wasn't good enough 😅
@Chastity_Belt
@Chastity_Belt 6 ай бұрын
I'm not even sure that it is right explanation. Traditionally, soviet planes (and even some missiles) got letter D for "dalniy", in american tradition it is equivalent of ER for "extended range". And indeed Tu-144D was exactly that - a version with extended range compared to standard version. Similarly, letter S in Tu-144S means "seriniy" or "serial", meaning it's a production model. In most cases letter S doesn't even used, for example Su-27S can often be named as just Su-27, which is not exactly right, because Su-27 - is name of pre-production series of planes, basically a prototypes.
@Delirium132231
@Delirium132231 6 ай бұрын
Chill guys, I’m native speaker of russian, I know what “dorabotaniy” means:)
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 4 ай бұрын
Redesigned Upgraded Improved
@PresidentEvil
@PresidentEvil 6 ай бұрын
mom: we have concord at home
@huskydaddy-y5y
@huskydaddy-y5y 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I know dear but that cheap POS is broken again, now drink your vodka you’re gonna be late for school.
@krapeevids6992
@krapeevids6992 4 ай бұрын
That was the most in-depth study on this plane I’ve ever seen. Good job.
@holgersinger3722
@holgersinger3722 5 ай бұрын
Das Ding ist bis 1978 noch von Scheremetjewo nach Sibirien Linie geflogen. Danach wurden noch zwei Exemplare bis Ende der 80iger flugbereit gehalten, kamen aber nur noch für das Raumfahrtprogramm der SU sporadisch zum Einsatz. Gutes Video.
@krystalmae5557
@krystalmae5557 6 ай бұрын
Still waiting for the video "I visited the most incapable ship in the us navy"
@NotWhatYouThink
@NotWhatYouThink 6 ай бұрын
Might be a long wait!
@krystalmae5557
@krystalmae5557 6 ай бұрын
@@NotWhatYouThink its ok i dont mind waiting
@worldwanderer91
@worldwanderer91 6 ай бұрын
Thar would be the LCS and Zumwalt-class
@krystalmae5557
@krystalmae5557 6 ай бұрын
@@worldwanderer91 he's already done videos on those
@wind0eseal
@wind0eseal 6 ай бұрын
@@NotWhatYouThink can you come do a tour of coast guard cutter Munro?
@tipptop9
@tipptop9 5 ай бұрын
My two favourite aircraft all in one video. I visited both crash sites near CDG. TU144 in Goussainville and Concorde in Gonesse, about 4km away from each other 😢
@ninjaman0003
@ninjaman0003 6 ай бұрын
But did the snoop droop?!
@eliaspeter7689
@eliaspeter7689 5 ай бұрын
Yes. ^^
@PauloMarcioAraujo
@PauloMarcioAraujo 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@FernandoG-gj3dd
@FernandoG-gj3dd 16 күн бұрын
At least someone told this story objectively how it really was. If they had actually stolen technology from Concorde, they would have started by stealing the engine plans.
@GranMarquez
@GranMarquez 2 ай бұрын
An aircraft that is so bad that its own design bureau wanted to cancel it. In Tupolev's opinion, it was taking resources that were needed for more urgent civil aviation projects. ...
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke 2 ай бұрын
Boeing knew SSTs were dumb... they built the 747 instead..
@carlosmejia5728
@carlosmejia5728 5 ай бұрын
Now talk about the french concord that was a technomogical and economic failure 😂😂😂
@Foquro
@Foquro 6 ай бұрын
There is absolutely no way this was the biggest waste of money in the history of aviation
@eggboi6760
@eggboi6760 5 ай бұрын
Fellas, it’s a trap. *DON’T install War Thunder if you value your sanity 😭😭😭* Take it from me - 4000 hours 💀
@rol_rob2603
@rol_rob2603 5 ай бұрын
Is it too addictive?
@daisiesofdoom
@daisiesofdoom 5 ай бұрын
I walked through one of these things in the sinsheim technical museum in germany. Impressive retro interior.
@garycombs5721
@garycombs5721 3 ай бұрын
Even though it was expensive, odds are the USSR gained valuable knowledge during its R&D. That’s what most Americans do not appreciate about the Spruce Goose. The R&D advancements to build that Spruce Goose prototype almost single-handedly made jumbo aviation possible, especially in the development of its hydraulic system.
@TarahVanessa
@TarahVanessa 6 ай бұрын
Man I can’t wait for supersonic air travel to come back just not like that Thing
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 5 ай бұрын
Too inefficient, complicated and needless.
@TarahVanessa
@TarahVanessa 5 ай бұрын
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907tell that to boom supersonic and see what they say
@alexandernorton693
@alexandernorton693 6 ай бұрын
Did it go through 27 engines or 27 pairs of 4 engines?
@killer3883
@killer3883 6 ай бұрын
No elevators, it had a rudder
@faisal1777
@faisal1777 5 ай бұрын
Tupolev Tu-144 was actually a very first Aircraft of its kind. While this communist aircraft was in the making only then the west thought of creating something similar resulting in the actual Concord. The Concorde built by Europeans was actually a mere score setting exercise during cold war. Communists were head to head with the west when it came to technology, education, research and were actually ahead in many fields. So much so, one Tupolev Tu-144 was bought by NASA many years ago for it's own supersonic aviation experiments.
@billg7813
@billg7813 5 ай бұрын
I can’t imagine anyone actually wanting to buy USSR hardware, only being forced to buy it
@huskydaddy-y5y
@huskydaddy-y5y 5 ай бұрын
Is good plane, I promise!!!
@ccdd9298
@ccdd9298 28 күн бұрын
That was also what the Challenger crew said...
@DeltaEnjoyer
@DeltaEnjoyer 6 ай бұрын
Obviously the western people will call it a “waste of money”
@alexander_d1277
@alexander_d1277 6 ай бұрын
yeah, they are pretty good at stating the obvious.
@GorgeDawes
@GorgeDawes 4 ай бұрын
Because it was.
@DeltaEnjoyer
@DeltaEnjoyer 4 ай бұрын
@@GorgeDawes 😂
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 4 ай бұрын
They love their stereotypes and prejudices.
@michaeld4676
@michaeld4676 4 ай бұрын
1:16 ❤ Love the little channel flash there
@wolfgangbistekos4596
@wolfgangbistekos4596 5 ай бұрын
War früher am Flughafen tätig, hatte die Concorde ein paar mal gesehen, unglaublich dieser Vogel
@uselesshero
@uselesshero 4 ай бұрын
Knowing what we know now, Concord itself was a commercial failure also, perhaps a bigger one than just not being very good. The thing burst into flames...
@Maurice_Moss
@Maurice_Moss 4 ай бұрын
It flew for 27 years and had very few issues along the way. The crash was caused by debris on the runway that wasn't cleared up that ruptured its fuel tank. Might want to get your facts straight.
@nicdig6686
@nicdig6686 24 күн бұрын
Tu 144 e Concorde saranno ricordati per sempre. per quel che mi riguarda grazie alle aziende per averli costruiti .
@PenskePC17
@PenskePC17 2 ай бұрын
Usually projects like this have major benefits even if they dont work out because of the breakthroughs that occur while development is going on.
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@Meganfinch-dt2qt 5 ай бұрын
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@Nelsonparker-tl4sw 5 ай бұрын
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@MichaelRoy-hc3lz
@MichaelRoy-hc3lz 5 ай бұрын
Actually the Concord never made a cent. I don't think supersonic passenger was a failure. It was just too far ahead of it's time for the infrastructure
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308 5 ай бұрын
If you average it out all the airlines of the world combined never made a dollar in profit.
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke 4 ай бұрын
@@sananselmospacescienceodys7308 Concorde is the biggest financial failure in commercial aviation history, Concorde was a 3.5 billion colossal failure.
@olysean92
@olysean92 5 ай бұрын
Ejection seats in a loaded passenger aircraft is hilarious to me.
@userhessenone1469
@userhessenone1469 5 ай бұрын
it was only on ghetto first airframe
@huskydaddy-y5y
@huskydaddy-y5y 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t you want a ejection seat in a inferior built pos that constantly breaks down?
@viking7084
@viking7084 5 ай бұрын
Commercial means "a company or individual that sells a product or service for PROFIT" something governments don't understand.
@joaoluizguimaraesfranco282
@joaoluizguimaraesfranco282 3 ай бұрын
Excelente vídeo. Muita informação sobre o Tu 144. Parabéns.
@9dvds
@9dvds 6 ай бұрын
nah no one can beat the USA in over spending (b2)
@el_primo5457
@el_primo5457 6 ай бұрын
Noise plane ✈ = farting freely 😂
@lightning76
@lightning76 6 ай бұрын
"was built for propaganda purposes" - is an amusing argument. Next: they built a spaceship for propaganda purposes
@eleypvr7294
@eleypvr7294 6 ай бұрын
so true. For having seen and been inside both in a museum, the Tu144 was much larger and spacious. Rumors say it crashed because of a mirage III getting a little too close, would make sense for the french to observe their competitor, even better to crash them.
@kronk9418
@kronk9418 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, because the Soviet Union was definitely known to be completely utilitarian and immune to propaganda-fueled projects.
@peterflohr7827
@peterflohr7827 6 ай бұрын
Why amusing? If it never was able to carry a meaningful amount of passengers what was the purpose?
@Aurochs330
@Aurochs330 6 ай бұрын
Yes, the airplane that was rushed in development to beat the upcoming announcement of the Concorde in the west… totally not propaganda! Sacrifice safety and quality for political image, so they can say they did it first! Totally not propaganda!
@syntactyx
@syntactyx 6 ай бұрын
⁠@lightning366 @@eleypvr7294 lmao, did either of you bots even watch the video? the aircraft was a piece of junk. only flew 55 flights with passengers on it and had *hundreds* of malfunctions. cope harder.
@العندليب-ق1ق
@العندليب-ق1ق 2 ай бұрын
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@Afuru1
@Afuru1 5 ай бұрын
The concord remains a marvel of engineering. What can you say about the concordski?... A marveleski perhaps.😅
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