The Birth of a new Great Lakes freighter.

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Gary Cihlar

Gary Cihlar

Күн бұрын

The Mark W Barker is being built by Fincantieri Bay Shipbuilding in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin. She is the first Great Lakes US-flagged bulk carrier to be built in 35 years. Measuring 639 ft. x 78 ft.
These are photos and videos of the ship from start to launch.

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@vernwallen4246
@vernwallen4246 2 жыл бұрын
Bay shipbuilding has built many lake freighters for the lakes trade.Keeping the 💰💰💰💰💰in the USA.🗽👍⚓
@leaturk11
@leaturk11 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you and Im not even from the US.
@michaeltb1358
@michaeltb1358 2 жыл бұрын
But now Italian owned?
@billyjoejimbob56
@billyjoejimbob56 2 жыл бұрын
www.interlake-steamship.com/media/
@richardstrachmesserschmiti4979
@richardstrachmesserschmiti4979 2 жыл бұрын
I found someone who can see 👀, that simple concept eludes the consensus. And the cfr trilateral commission knows it. The only complaint I have : no American station wagon simulated wood along the sides with accompanying hood ornament.🇺🇸
@timw5108
@timw5108 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. And nice to see that these ships can still be built in the USA I thought we had lost most of our shipbuilding capability through outsourcing...
@rusty7720
@rusty7720 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more,just hope she is built of all American steel.
@billyjoejimbob56
@billyjoejimbob56 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the great lakes capacity has withered due to lack of demand for new US flagged vessels. And some of the Canadian fleets have purchased new ships from Asian shipyards.
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 2 жыл бұрын
The yards have always done major repair work, so the skills are still there.
@timw5108
@timw5108 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteamCrane Glad to hear that!
@MS-37
@MS-37 2 жыл бұрын
The George 2 is being built in Brownsville Texas right now. US flagged container ship
@jamesthompson8008
@jamesthompson8008 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this! At the level of importance to the lakes shipping industry & more, it should've been national news. Great to see one built here!
@deetempleton80
@deetempleton80 Жыл бұрын
The birth of a beautiful vessel. Thanks for the taping. I learned so much fr. Your film work. Yes it would be wonderful if Sunday Morning, 60 Minutes covered these events for Made in America. When I was a young teens my Grampa to me to see the building of the Eisenhower Locks. In my eye it looked so deep, an the men looked so tiny.
@bambam6053
@bambam6053 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very sad to see how the shipping industry of the Great Lakes has completely given up on what made Great Lakes ships beautiful,elegant and unique with forward pilot houses
@battledragongun
@battledragongun 2 жыл бұрын
so true the boats these days seem like there all cut from cookie cutters and they have lost the beautiful lines thats lakers were famaus for the Blough next to her has better lines then that generic ship ever will ships theses days are sad they all come from the same cookie cutter design there no uneaqness about them eny more and the company's run them to the ground and dont care about them they rather scrap and build a new one then take care of the ship they got cant tell you how meny boats iv seen go to the scrapper this year its sad alot of them still had so much life left in them if only the company's took better care of them and saw just how nice thoses boats really were
@bambam6053
@bambam6053 2 жыл бұрын
@@battledragongun couldn’t agree more
@theshyguitarist
@theshyguitarist 2 жыл бұрын
No it's not. The newer designs are safer and more efficient.
@stancedstyfon1234
@stancedstyfon1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshyguitarist I don't think having a forward pilot house made ships dangerous considering some ships are still built with forward pilot houses...I think its just easier to build ships like supertankers now
@stancedstyfon1234
@stancedstyfon1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshyguitarist besides, the newer designs look boring as hell if u ask me
@JM-bs7ke
@JM-bs7ke 2 жыл бұрын
Keep building them in the USA!!!
@geezer652
@geezer652 2 жыл бұрын
12:32 .......Alright everybody back on the bus.......lets go get a beer!!
@ralphaverill2001
@ralphaverill2001 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the vessel move out of the dry dock to open water would have been nice.
@robertsanders6463
@robertsanders6463 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Gary, Thank you for sharing! Choice of music I feel suits the scene.
@boe4448
@boe4448 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary, Nice video work. Great to see our shipyards finally building a boat on the lakes again. Looks like possible work on the Blough. 🤞 Stay safe, Boe
@37903eral
@37903eral 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see ship building in the USA 🇺🇸.
@paulomelo4170
@paulomelo4170 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video beautiful ship made USA to bad majority of the new lakers not to say all of the new lakers are built in China . Congrats from Canada 🇨🇦
@kevinthorrington2131
@kevinthorrington2131 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a small village on the south shore of Lake Superior. My grand father was a commercial fisherman. I remember as a kid watching freighters going by like battle ships in formation. One after another all day long. I go back to visit the little town and I’m lucky to see a freighter. I live a short distance from Sturgeon Bay, I saw the beautiful ship being built when going through sturgeon Bay. I wonder why they built a freighter only 639 feet long?
@harrybarry2659
@harrybarry2659 2 жыл бұрын
Hoo-Ray that it wasn't built at an "overseas" yard. I am pleasantly shocked.
@baums547
@baums547 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be. The Jones Act says ships traveling between two US ports have to be American made, with American steel, American owned, and crewed by at least 75% US mariners.
@sammyvh11
@sammyvh11 Жыл бұрын
Keep burning coal and iron ore! God Bless the USA!
@TheRantingCabbie
@TheRantingCabbie 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing most people don't know is that the size of this ship is the longest you can build if you want it to sail as far as Lake Ontario.
@tmdillon1969
@tmdillon1969 2 жыл бұрын
That's not true. The Tregurtha is the biggest and sails between Detroit and Superior all the time. Other 1000 footers go as far south as Erie. They're too big to leave the lakes for the ocean but they can sail on at least 4 of the Great Lakes.
@johnstudd4245
@johnstudd4245 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, you can get ships up to 740 feet through the Welland canal and St. Lawrence seaway.
@TheRantingCabbie
@TheRantingCabbie 2 жыл бұрын
@@tmdillon1969 Yes, the Tregurtha and other thousand footers are the biggest and can go as far as Cleveland and Lake Erie, but they wont go as far as Lake Ontario because they can not fit through the Welland Canal.
@TheRantingCabbie
@TheRantingCabbie 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnstudd4245 I'm aware of that. I used to live near Welland. I'm sure this this ship could have been built longer but they probably have reasons for that.
@tmdillon1969
@tmdillon1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRantingCabbie good lord, I read your original post as Lake Huron. Sorry man. I need glasses.
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 2 жыл бұрын
For those who whine about this ship not being a traditional Great Laker, it has to do with the unloader crane on the bow area. Now had this been built in the traditional design, with the forward wheelhouse, you would need a few hundred feet more, and would defeat what the ship's purpose: to deliver cargo over the Ohio and Cuyahoga rivers as well as the Great Lakes.
@frosche9191
@frosche9191 2 жыл бұрын
still looks kinda stupid tho
@libertyvilleguy2903
@libertyvilleguy2903 2 жыл бұрын
Built in God’s Country, Door County Wisconsin.
@randyclyde4939
@randyclyde4939 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Great shots and an important record of Great Lakes Shipping!
@jimegan4353
@jimegan4353 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Gary. It gives us landlubbers an idea of what the crews have to manage in their daily activities. WOW! Sure is nice to know we can still build things in America.
@richardsmith4187
@richardsmith4187 2 жыл бұрын
What a choice for music, I fully expected Clint Eastwood to come riding into the picture LOL Really nice photos of the build !
@dperson6557
@dperson6557 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You.... Glad to a Laker build here on the Lakes.... Looking forward to watching her traveling along the shores.
@Galaxy2517
@Galaxy2517 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing!
@AGDinCA
@AGDinCA 2 жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how vehicles that large and that heavy are able to float.
@Maximilian7992
@Maximilian7992 2 жыл бұрын
It’s all about buoyancy and displacement
@AGDinCA
@AGDinCA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maximilian7992 And isn't that just awesome?! That simple laws of physics can allow for behemoths to float, when a small stone would sink... these are the the kinds of thoughts that keep me awake at night.
@jonmccormick8683
@jonmccormick8683 2 жыл бұрын
There is a park to the left open to the public. =Good place to stop if going to Sturgeon Bay - Door County.
@wendyphillips5002
@wendyphillips5002 8 ай бұрын
Great video of this ship construction in Sturgeon Bay. This is a smaller ship at under 650 feet long. Put this next to an oceangoing bulk carrier taking iron ore from Port Hedland, Western Australia taking ore to India or China it looks very small. Those huge ocean going ore carriers are over 1,200 feet long, over 200 feet wide and draw near or over 60 feet of water. They can carry at least 5 to 8 times the amounts of iron ore than this new ship. Port Headland has ships coming in drawing near and over 60 feet of draft. They have to wait for high tide to allow these deep draft vessels into Port Headland.
@carolewoolley7017
@carolewoolley7017 11 ай бұрын
God bless the birth of a new laker. Much of the great lakes fleet is quite aged, even though still beautiful. These hard working vessels and crews seem to survive bounties and hardships for decade after decade keeping commerce going to benefit us all. Absolutely great video of a ship sure to become popular with ship watchers. So well done, thanks.
@jimjohnston7688
@jimjohnston7688 2 жыл бұрын
Good looking boat. Nice to see we can still build something!
@CensorCipher
@CensorCipher 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Why don’t they build container ships for the Great Lakes though? Seems like that could alleviate the supply chain backup…
@electrictractiontrainsandt3063
@electrictractiontrainsandt3063 4 ай бұрын
Awesome, video! It's great to see a new ship built for our Great Lakes! 👍👍
@frodomocho1329
@frodomocho1329 8 ай бұрын
I think my wife and I saw this ship being built! We go up the thumb once a year to get our Lake Michigan fix...May the Good Lord keep her off the bottom!
@adriannegrillo8394
@adriannegrillo8394 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video! Thanx Gary! Proud she's owned by my hometown company!
@caseyjonesii6050
@caseyjonesii6050 Жыл бұрын
And too bad they designed a boat that smashed into the Marquette Oredock because of it's design. Ore boats have a unique design for a reason.
@mattharper588
@mattharper588 7 ай бұрын
This ship was purposely designed to get into smaller ports that a lot of the other Lakers cannot get into
@lanceriffle4841
@lanceriffle4841 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see. I am curious. Do they stack the hatch covers on top of each other? Its been 51 years since I was a deckhand.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 2 жыл бұрын
Looks to me they slide out of the way. This ship appears to have two covers per hold.
@jamesmcmanus1206
@jamesmcmanus1206 2 жыл бұрын
They do stack, each hatch has two big sliding doors. The forward door is lifted with hydraulics and after door slides under the lifted forward door.
@rael5469
@rael5469 2 жыл бұрын
Your video and slide show will live forever. It will become a part of history. Magnificent.
@MeekoSan
@MeekoSan 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Good to see the Roger Blough still in one piece too!
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Is she being repaired? The fires caused substantial damage but I haven’t seen any news on the state of the vessel yet. Hopefully she will be repaired since she is one of the youngest of the traditional-designed ships
@beetleworks738
@beetleworks738 2 жыл бұрын
Look forward to seeing her coming into duluth
@ianfowler6402
@ianfowler6402 2 жыл бұрын
There are substantially larger ships on the lakes. Was she designed for special work that the bigger vessels can't undertake? Thanks for the interesting video.
@billyjoejimbob56
@billyjoejimbob56 2 жыл бұрын
Yes... designed to access ports that the 1000 footers cannot serve. A very interesting story!
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
The ship class is river-class. The ship is only around 600 feet, easily along the smallest ships built recently, possibly the smallest
@normahodge6791
@normahodge6791 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing engineering feat. All built in the United States of America 🇺🇸.
@snydedon9636
@snydedon9636 2 жыл бұрын
With steel from China. FJB
@baums547
@baums547 2 жыл бұрын
@@snydedon9636 Nope, US steel. Read up on the Jones Act.
@allanallstar342
@allanallstar342 2 жыл бұрын
@@snydedon9636 no it wasn't?
@snydedon9636
@snydedon9636 2 жыл бұрын
@@allanallstar342 👍🤔😂
@theblackbear211
@theblackbear211 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting! I does my heart good to see it!
@katfayegarrett3872
@katfayegarrett3872 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video! As a life long Michigander I always love hearing about great lakes freighters.🚢🌊⚓
@shanepatrick4534
@shanepatrick4534 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see this on 1 Long 2 Short.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Ah another viewer of his channel i see. Yes, I will too wait for the Mark Barker to appear in his videos…assuming it heads as far as Duluth. Or I might see it in person during the few visits to Duluth I make
@merledoughty5787
@merledoughty5787 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see a ship built in their own country well done the ship builders. What do these ships carry now? I guess unlike ships going to Cleveland back years ago
@larselder874
@larselder874 2 жыл бұрын
The length indicated Cleveland’s cuyahoga River with taconite to the steel mills. Also grain up to Montreal from Duluth.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Taconite pellets are loaded at ports like Duluth Superior and Two Harbos, then transported south. Coal is mostly hauled north I think. Additional cargoes are slate, salt, grain, etc. the majority of freight is stuff like taconite ore and coal though.
@littlelittledeer1435
@littlelittledeer1435 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really interesting.
@manga12
@manga12 2 жыл бұрын
thats a rare one, you say in the description its been 35 years since we built a new one in the usa thats a long time, but these things have a long life will she be the biggest on the lakes?
@Bkings7
@Bkings7 2 жыл бұрын
No shes 640 feet there's quite a few bigger ships but they are limited in what ports they can visit
@manga12
@manga12 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bkings7 ah
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it’s only 640 feet. Glad to see the American lakers are expanding their family again though
@nightengale7163
@nightengale7163 2 жыл бұрын
So exciting! Appreciate the footage! ⚓💦
@tntsher
@tntsher 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of surprised to see the first ship built in USA in 35 years go back to the much smaller size. I would've thought any new Lakers would never be under 1000 Feet.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
It’s designed to operate in much smaller areas like rivers (hence the class name River class). It’s only 600 feet. Too bad that it was built in the ugly run of the mill doesn’t instead of the beautiful traditional design
@johnhenshaw7655
@johnhenshaw7655 2 жыл бұрын
Did they ever reproduce a ship called Edmundfitzgerald.?
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
There was never an Edmund Fitzgerald II. And I think it would have been foolish to build one, seeing as how unlucky the original one was. Cursed to misfortune right from laucnh
@larselder874
@larselder874 2 жыл бұрын
Interlake Steamship Company. Where is the bow thruster? My family lived aboard their flagships during off seasons in late 1950’s through about 1968 at Sandusky coal dock.
@paddyohenry6428
@paddyohenry6428 2 жыл бұрын
Loves these ships. What's with the name though? President of the company? Pretty lame.
@paddyohenry6428
@paddyohenry6428 2 жыл бұрын
@@GhostFolf86 Totally bourgeois and uninspiring.
@Pileits
@Pileits 2 жыл бұрын
Buy American
@rollydoucet8909
@rollydoucet8909 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! It's really sad that so many north American manufacturing jobs have crossed the oceans looking for cheap labor. Good to hear these ships can still be produced here at home.
@olivegreenpants7153
@olivegreenpants7153 2 жыл бұрын
Buy what you can afford
@DoorCountyDronebyMarkEvenson
@DoorCountyDronebyMarkEvenson 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Gary!!
@GaryCihlarPhotography
@GaryCihlarPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@radarmike6713
@radarmike6713 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ship. But the old pilot house forward design will in my opinion be the only true "Lakers".
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The newer ones all look like salaries, minus the high draughts and the masts that sometimes stick above the decks of saltire. Sadly, someday the true lakers will all be gone, with the only remaining members being museums like the William A Irvin, or else abandoned ships that litter the lakes
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always nice to see a new freighter, but sad because they have gone with the ugly, run-of-the-mill design that looks like a floating block. The thing that made lake freighters so beautiful was their wheelhouse at the bow design, which has been completely abandoned. It was used for 80+ years but is now gone. Sad
@funnelvortex7722
@funnelvortex7722 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, it still looks better than the floating monstrosities that many oceangoing vessels are these days. If you really want ugly, look at a mega container ship, Royal Caribbean cruise ship, or whatever limited use Frankenstein mess that crawled out of some Norwegian shipyard this year.
@jamesfrommanitoba.1992
@jamesfrommanitoba.1992 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary! Great job.
@user-AZ-phil
@user-AZ-phil 5 ай бұрын
Far too many shippers are opting for "cheaper" overseas shipbuilding. As a result too many US shipyards have closed, and those skills have been lost. It is so heartwarming to see one of our own building a laker again. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
@loonhaunt
@loonhaunt 2 жыл бұрын
Oh. Sweet. Bridge forward. Classic look.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have its bridge forward. It’s another stern-ender.
@rayfrechette8895
@rayfrechette8895 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how much Sturgeon Bay has changed since I spent a few months there in 1990. Then there were two ship building companies there. One built yachts and super yachts out of fiberglass or aluminum. The other was building all wood minesweepers of about 220' They launched one sideways into the bay. Were both of these companies bought up by Fincantieri? Good to see ship building continue on the Great Lakes.
@alanahr5
@alanahr5 Жыл бұрын
It’s changed a lot FBS now owns half of 1st Ave blocked off with gates for bayship only. They own pretty much everything from their stuff by Sunset park to Jefferson Street on that side of the street
@spacenut58
@spacenut58 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Gary! That looks like a new larger hatch system.
@bianca6586
@bianca6586 Жыл бұрын
A great ship
@mdavid1955
@mdavid1955 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Is the new ship diesel-electric powered?
@JLange642
@JLange642 2 жыл бұрын
While exciting to see- she'll never be considered as beautiful as her predecessors.
@jpb1231000
@jpb1231000 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see "The IRON BELT" and GREAT LAKES SHIPPING THRIVE again.... When Great Lakes Shipping dies, so does AMERICA!!! WE CAN do it AGAIN!!!! I'm from GA but I LOVE to hear The John G MUNSON, Authur M ANDERSON, Paul Tregurta, and American Spirit , Salute the Fans.... One day I'll see and hear them in PERSON!!!
@brucethomsenmusic7683
@brucethomsenmusic7683 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for sharing. In the meantime, I've clearly not paid much attention this year. I had no idea that the Blough was out of commission.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
It went out last February when a massive fire caused by a winter furnace spread throughout most of the stern. The unloading converters were heavily damaged
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I see they are sticking with the tradition of building the lakers ore boats with the very homely minimalist style. There is no nautical gracefulness at all. Just the traditional gritty hard core industrial look. The older ore boat (Roger Blough) looks like a sleek modern racing yacht by comparison.
@theblackbear211
@theblackbear211 2 жыл бұрын
Getting maximum cargo through a lock is their primary function, flair and rake reduce cargo capacity when it comes time to pass through a rectangular lock. It's all about the money.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 2 жыл бұрын
@@theblackbear211 Well they are bulk carriers.
@theblackbear211
@theblackbear211 2 жыл бұрын
@@mpetersen6 Yes, they are. But even among bulk carriers, the lack of rake or flare in the bow, not to mention forgoing a bulbous bow, speaks to the design priorities that drive a lake boat's shape.
@mattharper588
@mattharper588 2 жыл бұрын
@@theblackbear211 Great Lakes freighters do not have a bulbous bow ocean going vessel do
@theblackbear211
@theblackbear211 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattharper588 Yes, my point exactly - I was responding to "American Rambler's" original comment about the "Homely minimalist style" of Lake Boats... there are reasons that they are shaped the way they are. I hope that is clear, if you go back and follow the full thread. Sometimes it is hard to follow a conversation in the comments. 🙂
@stancedstyfon1234
@stancedstyfon1234 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd build her with her pilot house forward, and keep that traditional laker style going
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
If only a company did that. The traditional lakers are much more beautiful than these run of the mill floating blocks of steel
@beaggyboy
@beaggyboy 2 жыл бұрын
Watta.. Where 'd everyone go ? It looks totally abandoned. No birds, not a soul. Waa.., was it Sunday-Church Day, essentially or was it the 4th of July, the run-up to the Christmas week & the following New Year's Day maybe, hmm.., but then this cannot be. Taking into account, the Great Lakes region in particular, where temperatures are renowned to regularly dip well below freezing, this then cannot be the X'mas season wic falls in mid winter. The entire landscape here wudda been blanketed-over with thick fluff, wudnt it. So then, it's not that either, for sure. Waa.., did something unthinkable really occurred, like some kinda Nuclear-Radiological, Biological or Chemical Holocaust came to pass or that some cataclysmic kinda event happened for real or some zombie apocalypse kinda situation was upon here, owwwe this last category duznt count, if that was the case, we'd evn see the living-dead hanging chill until there appears prospects for 'em to attack & infect.
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 2 жыл бұрын
What most people do not realize is a great lakes freighter is designed to handle the short frequency waves the great lakes produce. These ships cannot sail on oceans because they are structurally designed differently. I researched this and found that ocean going ships cannot handle the great lakes waves without damage. That would explain why these ships are built on the great lakes. Average life of a freighter like is is 30 years.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple corrections here. First, an ocean going vessel (saltie) can sail the lakes with reduced cargo capacities, but lakers cannot sail the oceans because their hills are not designed for it. And second, the average life of a laker is much longer than 30 years. Even the 13 thousand-foot freighters are over 40 years old, and the AAA-class freighters still sailing are around 70 and still going strong. The lake are freshwater, meaning they don’t have the corrosive nature of the oceans and therefore lakers last longer. The St Mary’s Challenger was a 100+ year old ship when she was converted to a barge and the hull is still operating as a barge today
@robertmarion8931
@robertmarion8931 Жыл бұрын
14:07
@romie1967
@romie1967 2 жыл бұрын
Exciting! I can't wait to see her in person...
@paulenterline3107
@paulenterline3107 2 жыл бұрын
"As big freighters go, she was smaller than most...."
@GaryCihlarPhotography
@GaryCihlarPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
The shorter length makes it more versatile for getting into ports, there are some ports the 1000 footers can not get into.
@redbaron474
@redbaron474 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryCihlarPhotography Kind of makes you wonder why they built them that long, huh?
@ricksadler797
@ricksadler797 Жыл бұрын
One big open cargo hold ??? They say that’s what doomed Edmond Fitzgerald 😑. Fair winds my friend God bless you for a long career on the lakes 🙏
@chasemajochthevyondboy9927
@chasemajochthevyondboy9927 Жыл бұрын
Let's not hope that ship doesn't get sunk during storm just like Edmund Fitzgerald
@Howoldareweanywayyipes
@Howoldareweanywayyipes 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't ships have lights on the front? Hmmm This a super good video and the music will knock your socks off... among other things.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that launching doesn't mean completed.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
It hadn’t meant completing for a lot longer than this. Until the Kaye E Barker (originally christened Edward B Greene) was launched, all ships were launched partially completed and then finished while floating. The Kaye E Barker was built entirely in dry dock
@richardstrachmesserschmiti4979
@richardstrachmesserschmiti4979 2 жыл бұрын
Build another one , I need it ASAP for a floating mobile machine shop and oil refinery. Name it Nostromos Thanks
@TeamDaenzer
@TeamDaenzer 2 жыл бұрын
Her unloader is from the old S.S American victory
@rockeerockey6941
@rockeerockey6941 2 жыл бұрын
You must be refering to the Middletown that was owned & operated by Columbia Transportation\Oglebay- Norton
@TeamDaenzer
@TeamDaenzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockeerockey6941 Yes, after it being Middletown, it was the American victory, the victo scrap name
@rockeerockey6941
@rockeerockey6941 2 жыл бұрын
@@TeamDaenzer No kidding?
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@robertallen5531
@robertallen5531 Жыл бұрын
That structure on the bow which i assume is part of the self unloader is absolutely hideous. I like the older freighters too. Most modern ships are ugly period.
@dobber00
@dobber00 2 жыл бұрын
Large batches! I wonder what the reason for the unloaded being mounted forward? The roger blough was sure there a long time.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely the unloaded is mounted forward to save space. The ship is meant to be compact, and having the unloading system at the back would make the stern larger. By having it ferry the cargo to the front, they make use of the bow area which would otherwise be relatively empty
@dobber00
@dobber00 2 жыл бұрын
@@falcondragonslayer interesting. Thank you
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 2 жыл бұрын
There are some tight docks where a forward boom is essential. A prime example, the Osborne docks around the turning basin in Fairport Ohio. An aft boom boat has no way to unload there, to access the docks boats need to head in to the basin, and swing the forward mounted boom 90 degrees. To access the south side, they need to kick the stern around. I saw an aft boom ATB unload there once, the tug had to come out of the notch and side tow to get the barge's stern up to the bank. There have been several ATBs built with forward booms. There is a stone dock in Cleveland that may have a similar issue, bow is right up by a lift bridge.
@Hammerandhearth
@Hammerandhearth 2 жыл бұрын
So the hull plates are just edge welded in a grid pattern? Doesn't seem like the strongest approach to hull construction. What's the logic here?
@jakr1880
@jakr1880 Жыл бұрын
It's always mesmerizing to watch these lakers go under the the bridge in Duluth.
@leaturk11
@leaturk11 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me why some lake ships have the bridge on the bow and some on the stern?
@jayltd.7030
@jayltd.7030 2 жыл бұрын
design ,layout, equipment, purpose
@larselder874
@larselder874 2 жыл бұрын
Age. Older ships were taconite unloaded by Hullettes. At Toledo, Huron, Lorain, Cleveland, Ashtabula, canneaut, in Ohio. Lackawanna, Ny. East Chicago, Gary, and Burns Harbor, Indiana + South Chicago, I’ll. Then converted to be self unloaded. Newer ore boats do have smaller crews and all are at aft end.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Because at the turn of the 20th century, the engine parts were huge. Massive triple expansion steam engines powered by huge, coal-fired boilers. There wasn’t any room for a pilot house at the stern. Plus, the pilot house at the bow allowed for better views. But unfortunately, in the late 70’s, ships were now being built with stern cabins because the engines were much smaller. They cast out a century of beautiful design in favor of floating blocks of steel with run of the mill stern cabins like you see on ocean going ships
@TheJimbob1603
@TheJimbob1603 2 жыл бұрын
What sort of propulsion system do these freighters have? I didn't see any accommodation for a prop shaft in the cargo holds ...... so, Azipod? Surely not a VSP?
@BattleshipOrion
@BattleshipOrion 2 жыл бұрын
The props & engines would be mounted under the superstructure, just in case she snaps. That way, if one half sinks, and the other still remains afloat,she can still motor to dry dock.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
The engines are located at the stern
@willctheroysolved6408
@willctheroysolved6408 2 жыл бұрын
Why do the lake freighters have the wheel house up on the bow like that? Seems you would want it at the stern like a ocean vessel..of course I see that this one has it on the stern after i posted this...lol
@michiganrailfan2141
@michiganrailfan2141 5 ай бұрын
Why did they decide to put the conveyor machinery on the bow?
@elanavondaven1040
@elanavondaven1040 2 жыл бұрын
I really didn't realize how much they can hold until seeing the hatches off
@michaelgregorich9386
@michaelgregorich9386 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Chuck59ish
@Chuck59ish 2 жыл бұрын
It's a wonder they didn't go for another 1,000 footer, it looks small in that dry dock though and it's different having the unloading gear in the bow, but it probably got cameras up in bow so they'll know where they are.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody seems to have done any research…the ship is built that small because it’s meant to fit inside areas the 1,000 footers couldn’t. The classification of the ship is river class
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 2 жыл бұрын
Ideal configuration for many tight ports. Footers are specialized for a few big ports.
@harryscott9533
@harryscott9533 2 жыл бұрын
giving the sad state of affairs today in this nation , 🇺🇸 , this is a great thing to see !!! 😷🤓😎👍👏 , i can still remember seeing Hulletts unloading boats where my dad worked at P&C dock co. in Conneaut Ohio !! , also in Cleveland Ohio it was an amazing sight to see one of these making its way up the twisting turning Cuyahoga river to the steel mills !!! 👍😎🇺🇸
@НиколайЮдин-н9т
@НиколайЮдин-н9т 2 жыл бұрын
Новенький караблик - это всегда хорошо. 7 футов под килем !
@scottrjmatmsncom
@scottrjmatmsncom Жыл бұрын
I just saw her in buffalo going home from work. She's big
@SW-jw6il
@SW-jw6il Жыл бұрын
probably owned by the chinese or some other foreign investors
@gregcharland
@gregcharland Ай бұрын
What is the cost of such a freighter when completed?
@scottb4907
@scottb4907 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@acdii
@acdii 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine, 1944, Freighters were being built in 120-170 days, fast forward 80 years or so and it takes 2+ years now using practically the same techniques.
@adstaton8461
@adstaton8461 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. I worked at Newport News Shipbuilding. We had carriers we built in 6 years and carriers we built in less than 4. It depends on when the buyer wants to take ownership. Do you ramp up hiring to build quickly, or use an existing workforce and avoid mass layoffs when work slows down. It isn't always a race against time.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@adstaton8461 Lake shipping back then was booming. There were hundreds of freighters, and even more rolling out of dry dock as outdated freighters were sent to the scrappers. Nowadays, ship II Leung is slower, with the methods to maintain ships being much better (I assume).
@12345anton6789
@12345anton6789 2 жыл бұрын
South Korean and Chinese shipyards uses 3 months to build a bulk carrier like this. A bulk carrier is a low-tech ship that is easy and fast to build
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@12345anton6789 Yeah well pretty sure the pandemic would have slowed construction time, plus there was the period of time when the ship was pulled out of dry dock so the yard could service another ship
@12345anton6789
@12345anton6789 2 жыл бұрын
@@falcondragonslayer in Asia they build ships like the US did with the Liberty Ships during WW2. Mass production like that is hard to beat
@majobis
@majobis 2 жыл бұрын
Will it have the barker bark
@edcew8236
@edcew8236 2 жыл бұрын
Glacial pacing... music added nothing
@clineshaunt
@clineshaunt 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that here in US we still know how to build other types of ships besides aircraft carriers. Great video!
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 2 жыл бұрын
They k now how. It's amazing though, with the taxes, fees, regulations and high wages anyone wants to spend the time and dough to build 'em here.
@scottwarnez1404
@scottwarnez1404 2 жыл бұрын
why 639 x 79, significantly smaller than both the Welland and St. Lawrence maximums
@rjgoniea
@rjgoniea 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that it could fit through those locks. The hull shape suggests she couldn't go out on the open ocean. I read somewhere that the lake freighters are not certified to operate out there as the conditions are too different.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
This ship is classified as a river class freighter. Probably has something to do with the small dimensions
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 2 жыл бұрын
The River Class can get up the Cuyahoga, and a couple other places. Anything bigger won't fit.
@scottwarnez1404
@scottwarnez1404 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteamCrane Thank you for the clarification. I grew up on the St. Clair River and at the time it seemed all the new boats were either Welland class (730') or Soo Class (1000'); this makes sense that as some of the older, smaller boats are retired.
@gabbymadsen7260
@gabbymadsen7260 2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't have a bow forward bridge?
@losgatosboi9880
@losgatosboi9880 2 жыл бұрын
b o t e
@losgatosboi9880
@losgatosboi9880 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I soon wish to join the Great Lakes Fleet.
@redbaron474
@redbaron474 2 жыл бұрын
@@losgatosboi9880 You better really prepare yourself mentally then, because storms on the great lakes are a lot different than one's on the ocean. Waves are closer together, which means instead of riding up and over the big lakers tend to plow through - with every wave breaking completely over the deck, and even the pilot house (for those with them forward).
@jamestracy410
@jamestracy410 2 жыл бұрын
Old school, pilot house forward design.
@BigLisaFan
@BigLisaFan 2 жыл бұрын
Self unloading boom is at the bow, not the wheelhouse. Bridge aft design.
@falcondragonslayer
@falcondragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I must agree with @@BigLisaFan , the new ships is a stern ender. All they care about is money now
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