The Bizarre Alien Interior of Jupiter

[@tayzonday]

I didn’t know that the Galileo probe sent data 180km into Jupiter’s atmosphere. I suppose that’s not very deep relative to the size of Jupiter, but quite deep from an Earth perspective.

[@oberonpanopticon]

It’s a shame they couldn’t put a camera on it

[@andymccracken4046]

@@oberonpanopticon I expect it would be quite dark and very foggy.

[@JohnSmith-sk7cg]

​@@oberonpanopticonYou probably wouldn't see much due to the plasma covering the scenic direction.

[@SaneGuyFr]

its dark​@@oberonpanopticon

[@OrgusDin]

Deep enough Jupiter felt it.

[@rhouser1280]

It’s crazy that most of human history except for a blink of time, we didn’t know that these things even existed. Wonder what we’ll figure out in the next blink, wish I could be around for it.

[@rigocolas]

I like how you said this

[@oberonpanopticon]

Just imagine the things you’ll still find out during your fraction of a blink

[@Billyjoe888]

space is not our next big event to focus on. AI and climate change are going to dictate if we get to live on as a species on earth

[@terryboyer1342]

@@Billyjoe888 Climate change caused by humans? "Existential" climate change?

[@DeezNuggz]

@@Billyjoe888right about AI, wrong about "climate change". pollution is a big deal, but just don't fall for the grifting.

[@unune9069]

Hey John. Today is my birthday. Im a stranger and we have never met but for the last few years you have helped me sleep better and manage my random thoughts. Astronomy and science explained by your calm voice makes my brain focus without a problem and helps me calm down too. Thank you very much for all your work

[@Just_som_Ottur]

January 9th?

[@scholbe]

Happy belated birthday! I hope you had a good day!

[@ralphm8088]

Try weed.

[@unune9069]

@@Just_som_Ottur yes

[@unune9069]

@@scholbe thank you stranger :)

[@hansthebeast9740]

Can you imagine living on a habitat orbiting Jupiter? What a beautiful view.

[@11nephilim]

I feel like that'd trigger some serious megalophobia for a lot of people!

[@OrgusDin]

Nah, we need to sink more quadrillions into useless weight, no room to go to space or escape extinction on this rock. More welfare, more soy based protein for more bug people in more pods, strictly terrestrial pods because we can't leave The Firmament that has been erected in an attempt to convince us the judaic lie is real.

[@efdangotu]

Bio of a Space Tyrant.

[@jacobmar2797]

that would be terrifying.

[@RickyGMedia_TX]

Nope. It’s surrounded with radiation.

[@woltersworld]

Jmg. Another gem buddy.

[@danf7411]

ayy, a youtube goat enjoying another goat

[@SicFromTheKush]

Are you hoping to do a travel review for Mars one day

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

@woltersworld Thanks Mark!

[@ezziboo]

Always flawless, too.

[@Submissive-Soul]

go home woltuh

[@DaveTexas]

When I was little, watching people walk on the moon live on TV, I wanted to be an astronaut. I had an uncle who worked for a NASA contractor, working on projects for the space program. As the 1970s progressed, he actually worked on projects for what became the space shuttle - including the Manned Maneuvering Unit that was used for untethered spacewalks. Anyway, I studied everything I could get my hands on about the solar system. And the galaxy, and the universe. Black holes fascinated me after first hearing about them in a show at our local planetarium. More than anything else, though, I wanted to be able to visit Jupiter and gaze upon it out the window of a spaceship. I wanted to get as close as possible to it, seeing the clouds, storms, and moons. My relatives told me that it was entirely possible I could do that, predicting that humans would be visiting other planets by the 2000s-2010s. Turns out they were a little off about that. With all sorts of health problems, I’ll never be able to travel to space, and certainly never to Jupiter. Humans won’t get there in my lifetime, that’s for sure. Mars, possibly, but not further out in the solar system. Oh, well. I’ll have to settle for rewatching The Expanse…

[@yearzeroism]

Most of us will buddy

[@belstar1128]

At this point i will be happy if we put a human on mars before 2080

[@salam-peace5519]

I also was obsessed with space and planets as a kid in the mid-2000s (I'm born in 1995), and I also remember hearing back then that there would be a manned Mars mission planned for 2020. I remember being excited, thinking about how I will watch the first humans landing on Mars as an adult, and hoping that later maybe space travel will become available for regular people. Now its 2024 and still no people on Mars. But atleast we got to see the first close-up pictures of Pluto in 2015 which is also quite amazing. And I hope with the Artemis program atleast they manage to bring people to the moon again in the next years.

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

Me almost the same. The only hope left is the possibility of next life, but I'm not sure what to think about that. If the US continue so desperately to pretend try leading space exploration, the next two lives wont do. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸

[@piip4]

Sounds like you should rather watch For all mankind

[@disgruntl3dv3t]

I can not express how much I appreciate everything you do. Please don't ever change.

[@generationfallout5189]

I love what you said about Pluto. Pluto cannot be demoted by any mere mortals. Pluto is the king of the lonely drifters. He represents all those out lost in the darkness.

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

Show us where on the doll science hurt poor baby's feelings

[@friendlyone2706]

And, like Pluto, more internally active than imagined by those who only view us loners from a distance.

[@joskeguereza3714]

Pluto is not even alone :)

[@fly463]

Puny dwarf planet 😂😂

[@phlegmbeck9224]

I’m not sure why, but for many years I would lie awake wondering what the center of Jupiter was really like. It was both mesmerizing and troubling to me for some reason. I asked myself many of the same questions you mentioned at the end of the video. We’ve discovered much through recent explorations, but there’s still so much more to learn. Thanks for another great video. It really hit the spot!

[@Voshchronos]

Man, Jupiter is just so fascinating. Easily my favorite planet.

[@WasFakestCenturyAesthetics]

Jupiter, the most beautiful planet, has always been jealous of Saturn's rings.

[@nneisler]

You are Jupiter’s favorite too

[@patrowan7206]

My dream, after seeing Juno's amazing cloud pictures, would be to see images from a probe as it flew in the transparent atmosphere between cloud peaks -- like an airliner dodging thunderheads.

[@JonnoPlays]

We need a whole episode on why Pluto is a planet. I feel the same way and this topic seemed somewhat buried within another topic. I think it's a title worthy topic.

[@harryfuller3881]

I agree this would be a great episode. I am in the not-a-planet group. We do not count the objects in the asteroid belt as planets. You have to draw the line somewhere. I guess you could count everything orbiting the sun a planet, and then have the subset of ones you teach kids. My solution is less scientific and more human in nature. “A planet is an object that orbits the sun which is massive enough for a human to walk on.”

[@Тольяттинец-н6ъ]

Jupiter is my favorite planet for observations with my telescope. Recently I saw one of the moons traversing in front of the Jupiter and I am still impressed by that observation a few weeks later.

[@don63]

1)Started school and Pluto was a planet. 2)All throughout school to graduation in 1981 Pluto was a planet. 3)As far as I'm concerned, right now Pluto is still a planet. 4)There is nothing to dissuade me (all respect to Neil deGrasse Tyson and others) from considering it a planet.

[@Jerburger]

I 100% agree with you on the planet classification thing. Saying pluto isn't a planet does nothing but imply that it somehow isn't worth our attention

[@KarlWhales]

This. This is the most mysterious place near to us, after Venus. I’m so excited about the next few decades and what we will learn about them.

[@moondog6004]

That ending made me interested in your take on Saturn

[@imafackinjunglist]

I could see Jupiter with my eye once. I had to check what it was on a starmap. You know sometimes when you stare at the moon for a long time and it starts to come into focus how far away it is and you get a sense of, well, something I don’t know how to say. That happened but it was Jupiter instead. It’s like instead of feeling like you’re only on this planet you realise that your in the middle of something else and it’s big like an ancient temple or when you look at the ocean. It’s hard to get that just by looking at the sky for 10 seconds. Spend longer and when you reorientate (you’ll know when) yourself you’ll see what I mean. It’s the best thing that’s free and no one can steal it or own it.

[@Ev3ntHorizon]

Astonishing. You have managed to breathe life into Jupiter in a way that I would have thought impossible. I cannot praise this episode highly enough.

[@pretary1845]

I've always been under the impression that Jupiter and Saturn don't get as much credit as they deserve. They're like the bras of the solar system. Holding everything in place.

[@Sketch77717]

You could fit almost 2000 Saturns in Jupiter. They don't perform a similar function gravitationally.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@Sketch77717 It's normal when they are slightly uneven. You still want two.

[@frostchain2362]

@@Sketch777172000? It would be closer to 2 volumetrically, a little over 3 if we're talking mass.

[@walterwalter-ql1np]

​@@frostchain2362 Yeah I have NO clue where that guy got the number 2000 from. You could fit 1300 Earths into Jupiter and about 764 Earths into Saturn creating a 536 Earth difference in size between them- While Jupiter is definitely much bigger than Saturn, Saturn is still colossal. One might even go so far as to call it a giant.

[@LegenGary69]

I didnt think i could respect you any more than i already did, but you saying you considered Pluto a planet earned extra respect i didnt even know i had for you.

[@winstoncrew7183]

I've officially started my dad on your channel John! Happy New Year my friend! I am very excited to see what wonderous treasures you will share this year. The beauty of Jupiter is simply stunning.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Man, i so badly wish we could SEE what this WEIRD STRANGE internal region of Jupiter. It would provide us such a vast wealth of knowledge

[@hunteratops]

excited for another dose of JMG greatness!

[@bandomelatonin7351]

6:07 That is an absolutely stunning image it took me aback I’m absolutely entranced. An incredible image without a doubt

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Yeah, I thought so too. You know what I did, I was going through the image archive of the JUNO spacecraft and was like "I gotta figure out a way to make a Jupiter video and show this stuff to folks" and this video was born.

[@Siaynoq8]

John warmed my heart to think of Pluto as a planet. I do to. And Neil Degrass Tyson can go kick rocks.

[@learnpianofastonline]

Agreed!

[@legitbeans9078]

Who gives a shit what classification a ball of rock and ice has? Lol.

[@djdrack4681]

Remember that even before Uranus/Neptune's discoveries, the astronomers of the era had reason to believe that something else was out there (based on even their primitive/erroneous math)...A testament to just how much they affect things.

[@gg.1739]

4:57 while Jupiter may have over 90 moons, a good portion of them don't even have names; they're simply named after the designation they were given at discovery. And some of these moons have been known for 20-30 years now and still don't have a name. And that's partially why terms like "dwarf planet" or "minor" are now used, because if we classified every round object that went around the sun as a full planet like the earth or Jupiter, we would have so many planets that we probably wouldn't be able to keep up with them. this even applies to dwarf planets, some of which don't have names. It would be too cluttered. Terms like dwarf planet mitigate this slightly, but are still too vague to be valid in my opinion. With that said Pluto will always be the ninth planet, even if an actual "planet" planet is discovered in the future

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

It's not so much about that, rather that the criterion that excludes Pluto was terrible and by definition also excludes Jupiter as a planet because it hasn't cleared its neighborhood. If the IAU can't do it right the first time, they shouldn't have rocked the boat until we had a good, widely agreed on definition in the greater community outside the committee. The issue is that there isn't one. Pluto's orbit is clearer than Jupiter, Earth and Mars. Good luck proving it isn't, so it becomes a call of mass whether anyone likes it or not. One that should also exclude Mercury. Anything else just boils down to that its round and it orbits the sun. Well, if we end up with 40 planets, then that's the universe. If we ever see an exoplanet system that has 40 detectable large planets, well, there it is (see HD 139139). What are we going to do then? Demote Earth? It just was contrived and needs to be called on it.

[@universalparadoxes2081]

Content, music, graphics and that great soothing narration. Great vids. Thanks

[@TerribleShmeltingAccident]

Your script writing ability combined with your smooth cadence produces a beautiful picture in my minds eye 👌🏻

[@TheKa1o]

Would love an in depth video like this about each planet

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

That's part of this year's plan. I'm gonna take them one by one in addition to the usual videos. Next up is Mercury and the mystery of why it's core is so large.

[@straagzthemc4614]

Also, you and Isaac Arthur have inspired me to try my hand at writing my own novel just for fun.

[@baahcusegamer4530]

Do it do it do it! What is the story going to be about?

[@straagzthemc4614]

@@baahcusegamer4530 well I'm going to use a lot of ideas discussed in Isaac Arthur's videos, the setting will be the solar system and about complications arising with it. An AI seizes control of earth after it's creator was assassinated by sketchy government agents in a bid to unlock humanity's potential. While regulating the earth it builds a mega city where ancient Sumer used to be, in this city humans are inserted with a primitive ai that "grows" with the young human thus generating extremely human like AI's that can actually experience the world as a human and can aid in things like vitamin deficiencies, neurotransmitter deficiencies, etc

[@evanmakoff1836]

Happy New Year John! 🎉 Can’t wait for another year of you filling my mind with more fascinating and intriguing things to ponder on! You and your amazing insight never fail to keep me captivated ! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us this year, cheers! - a loyal fan

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

It's gonna be a good year. There's a TON of stuff happening in astronomy in 2024.

[@cykkm]

​@@JohnMichaelGodierHi JMG, on this tangent, do you think it would be a good idea if I'd sent you pointers to “the top 10 most energetic events in the Universe ever observed,“ focussing on different objects of every kind: the Big Bang as the number 1, of course; the Scary Barbie insanely energetic TDE; the NeVe 1 event, a heavy galaxy's SMBH consuming a whole minor galaxy worth of matter; GRB 221009A; GW170817, IMO, the most astrophysically important observation of the first quarter of this century, and likely the most energetic by the total wavelength ranges observed; GW190521; and so on? Some are well known, while some, such as the NeVe 1 eruption remnant, mainly having fallen through the cracks in popular science. I don't think it's anywhere among your Top 10 lists, isn't it?

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

@cykkm Oh yeah, send away. Any material on any of those are much appreciated. My bread and butter is the strange one off stuff as you know, but I'm not aware of all the weirdness that's happened because of the sheer amount of it in the history of science. My email is public and perhaps unsurprisingly is [e-mail]. I'll see anything you send. It's certainly a ten list video as I don't think I've covered any of those yet. You're even welcome to see the script behind the scenes as I research the events and form it up. Feedback is always welcome.

[@cykkm]

​@@JohnMichaelGodierSure thing, I'll be glad to read the draft, too! I'll collect the list within a week, possibly two-a little backlogjam here. (P.G.Wodehouse would approve of the word, methinks. :-) )

[@johnwayne3085]

You're welcome. I'd like to thank my fans like you. I couldn't have done it without you. I'd like to thank my agent, my editor and the director. I want to thank my Mom, my grandmother, my gr....🎼🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎵🎶🎶🎵

[@LAMPROS311]

Happy new year, John, and thank you for another mind travelling video.

[@TenOfZero1]

Great episode, thank-you for making these !

[@IRex-wm9pd]

I think this is the first time Ive ever heard an argument to classify Pluto as a planet again that actually made me think you know what that makes sense and wasnt just some emotional or nostalgic screed. Well done...

[@galactician]

Big +1 on your Pluto rant. Well said with the moons comparison.

[@MrJLCharbonneau]

Hell yeah Pluto’s a planet. It’s got 5 frikin moons.👏

[@redpillcommando]

I strongly agree.

[@OrgusDin]

4 more moons, 5 times the tides, imagine it.

[@NDHFilms]

You have made the most compelling argument I’ve heard yet for keeping Pluto a planet. One question: would you qualify Ceres as a planet?

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Yes. I think the most solid footing would be the potato limit. If an object directly orbits the sun, and it can pull itself roughly into a sphere, then it's a planet. That solves the Pluto problem, which is greater I think than the problem of calling Ceres an asteroid. Put Ceres anywhere else but the asteroid belt, and we'd have called it a planet. It initially was classified as a planet given it was discovered in 1801, long before Neptune, for over 50 years. If an object does not directly orbit the sun, instead orbiting a planet, then it's a moon. If it falls below the potato limit, it's a moonlet. Anything else is an asteroid, comet, or interstellar object. This preserves Pluto as a planet, and the Kuiper belt objects, but would show up as an issue for Deimos and Phobos. So maybe it's just better, if arbitrary, to not make a distinction for moons. That would be a main point of criticism though. Still better than fighting over Pluto though.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Also Ceres can use a boost anyway, given that it, like Pluto, has proven to be more interesting than we expected. As in a subsurface ocean candidate. That's not normal for an asteroid.

[@MaliciousChickenAgenda]

@@JohnMichaelGodierthat’s cool that it’s called the potato limit 😊 I’d like a chicken limit too but that’s just me being self indulgent 😀🐔

[@horsymandias-ur]

@@MaliciousChickenAgendaAyam Cemani?

[@pseudonayme7717]

@@MaliciousChickenAgenda I have a chicken limit. It's a leg and a breast and no more😁

[@madderhat5852]

Pluto will always be a Classical planet too me.

[@ivoryas1696]

5:25 That... was _substantially_ more understandable than I anticipated. 😁 Almost trivial, even. Fascinating...

[@frynotfray]

I absolutely love your content, thanks for everything.

[@mikekolokowsky]

Pluto was declassified as a planet because it didn’t clear out its orbital path, not because it’s small. Stop it already. The scientific body that decides what is a planet decided that Pluto isn’t one.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Doesn't work. Jupiter has not cleared its path of the Trojan and Greeks asteroid groups, thus it too is a minor planet. That can be proven. But what you can't prove is that Pluto HASN'T cleared it's orbit. We know of not a single object in its orbit other than one very special object indeed. All we know is that Pluto has captured objects, at least two of its moons are captures. We know of nothing else technically in its neighborhood except .... Neptune. Neptune too has not cleared its orbit. The third criterion was just BS they stuck in because two astronomers were lobbying the IAU to demote it so they could go out in the media and claim bragging rights for killing Pluto. NDGT is still getting mileage out of it. The third criterion was put in because the first two cleared Pluto and defined it as a planet in a supportable way, so they stuck the hand-wavey third one in to kill it. Trouble is they didn't think it through because the vote was rushed and it ends up classifying Jupiter, Neptune, Mars and Earth as minor planets as well as Pluto. Or, ask a dinosaur if it thinks Earth has cleared it's neighborhood yet. It was all concocted just so they didn't have to outright come out and say anything smaller than 4000 km is a minor planet and we have no basis from which to put that number there, but we did it so we could save Mercury and disqualify Pluto because we wanted to. It would have been more straightforward, because size is exactly what the whole being able to clear its neighborhood thing was about. The thing is, no amount of time is going to make the third criterion non-arbitrary no matter how much anyone wishes it were so. This will still be a problem in three centuries if the IAU doesn't reverse itself, which it will, just as much as it is now because wrong is wrong. The other sordid bit was that it wasn't even the full IAU, it was a committee within it of less than 500 astronomers out of an organization with more than 12,000 members many of which have gone on record in disagreement with the whole affair because the third criterion is unsupportable.

[@quite1enough]

Noo Saturn is interesting 😭 it has giant hexagon

[@mantistoboggan265]

THANK YOU JMG! Pluto is a planet and you're the first space/astronomy KZbinr I've heard acknowledge this reality!

[@andrewsummers2394]

Jupiter is dfinately now my favorite of the planets of our solar system. thank for that excellent video.

[@rhouser1280]

Wahoo, you always know when to post! 😉 Dude I watch your videos at least twice, once going to bed & the 2nd the next morning, your video’s are always so interesting! Thanks for putting them out man!

[@grayaj23]

This is one of your all-time best, in my opinion. Fascinating topic that i've been wondering about since I was a child half a century ago.

[@MrCzveare]

Your videos are absolutely enthralling. Its like your unlocking my mind. I cant thank you enough for it. Cheers.

[@LatencyProblem]

"i call pluto a plan" my eyes rolling all the way to the back of my skull

[@lucre113]

Why 😂

[@wagnerkonflanz7049]

I love your work! Amazing videos! Happy new year!

[@johngalt3568]

Agree with the “digression” regarding Pluto. Planet, period.

[@Captofthisship]

Man, these video topics of yours make my imagination just go off the rails. The further out of the solar system, the better. Thank you, sir!

[@CouchCoop128]

Its a long shot....but I'm convinced there's a machine in the centre, all the surface activity is its 'exhausts' the red dot acts a 'recycling' unit, I told you was a long shot, John don't steal this for a book! 🤣see you down there

[@rkornilo]

Completely agree with your views on Pluto. It's reclassification was dubious, regardless if DeGrasse Tyson agrees with it or not.

[@ltzmin]

This is by far the best KZbin channel out here, the content, the eeriness without exaggeration mind you, quite food for the imagination and it's not science fiction chef kiss 👌🏻

[@Elayzee]

It makes me so happy to know that you still consider Pluto as a planet. And I totally agree with your reasoning of that too. :)

[@Its.Program]

Thank you for sticking up for the lovely PLANET Pluto! ❤️

[@drockjr]

This blunt is for you, John

[@keithbrown4988]

Happy year John and team, many thanks for all your videos last year, we are going to be spoiled again this year, if this years one's are as good as this one. Thanks again, wishing you all a very happy new year

[@Athonite]

Thumbs up, for the respect given to Pluto in this video

[@redpillcommando]

Yes. Pluto is a planet.

[@messyjetski2549]

i've had jupiter on the mind lately. good timing

[@residentenigma7141]

This episode reminded me of dreams I had as a kid, where I was the first man to land on Jupiter. It was very cold, yet oddly hot. I shoulda landed at night.

[@residentenigma7141]

And beyond that, this is a bloody good episoooode.

[@JT-ls3ly]

What could Saturn be hiding? My guess: it's hiding its contempt for Jupiter for taking the best orbital spot. Saturn doesn't even complain about Jupiter's magnetic field encroaching upon its orbit.

[@smorrow]

Anyone seeing the face at 13:03?

[@deku812]

This video has a hypnotic quality, i've tried for 2 weeks and fall asleep everytime i watch it!

[@Ameuer]

It would arguably be bizarre if the interior of Jupiter wasn’t alien at all.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic video, John! Thanks a bunch!!! 😊 Happy new year! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@stricknine6130]

I agree with you about Pluto. Thanks for the video!

[@redpillcommando]

Pluto is a Planet!

[@ubergeek1968]

I applaud you for your opinion on Pluto. I will NEVER accept the idea that Pluto is not a planet. Yes, we should also include Eris, Sedna, Ceres, and others.

[@Just.A.T-Rex]

It’s is a planet. It’s a dwarf planet

[@bigjermboktown6976]

Thank you! I still consider Pluto to be a regular planet also!

[@stevensmith797]

to quote tyson , "pluto,s orbit crosses that of another planet , thats no way for a planet to behave" , clear the orbit , and pluto ddint , just like the 1000,s of other object in the kyper belt

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

That means that Neptune hasn't cleared its orbit of Pluto.

[@stevensmith797]

@@JohnMichaelGodier but it has , nothing else in orbit with neptune and its moons , pluto has other KBO,s in orbit with it

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

No, it hasn't. It has neither captured nor ate Pluto. Nor can it, thus NDGT's argument is false. Pluto is a planet on a highly elliptical inclined orbit. Would you say that when Jupiter was migrating and not in resonance with Saturn that when it crossed protoplanetary orbits it was not a planet? It was a migrating planet. The IAU needs to remember two things. First, some of us actually have to sit in non-university level classrooms and popularization platforms and promote STEM to kids. I am sick and damned tired of explaining their convention to 8 year olds who feel sorry for Pluto. Second, it is not the place of the IAU to define vernacular terms to get "Sentimentalism" out of the public discourse on a broad vernacular term that we abandon in scientific papers specifically for the pitfalls of its broadness, shunning it when needed in favor of "ice giant", "Gas giant" or "Terrestrial". That minor handful of astronomers at the IAU that represented less than 500 of the world's 10,000 astronomy Ph.D.'s set off a needless firestorm because they wanted to, no less than two scientists I know run around with the mantle of planet killer. And for the love of corn, the IAU needs to stop using the word dwarf. I cringe every time I have to do it in a culture where we abandoned the word because in it's original context it's offensive.

[@fxdelusions77]

Such another fantastic video! The fact that you give your opinions on planet vs minor planet (Dwarf), and compare it to various sized moons and how they are not classified as minor or not, really shows your creative thinking. I agree with you 💯 🙏 Tyvm for such an informative video on my second favorite planet (Saturn is my first 💕)

[@joshuadelacruz6617]

Man. I haven't visited this channel in a month or a few. There's a bunch of stuff to catch up on. The videos here are fantastic. Full on wondrous information. Also, they've always got a creepy vibe. There's always a looming existential eerieness buzzing around when I watch your content. Thanks John, you're awesome.

[@VibesChill7991]

Love your videos!

[@CyberdyneSystems435]

I love Carl Sagan’s ideas on Jupiter. Great video!

[@Uberschnell]

0:19 Saturn 2 confirmed

[@bleachboss1358]

Milky Way 2

[@stevecostanzo5849]

Great show. Been listening over a year now. Event Horizon is good too.

[@activatewindows]

Always curious about the innards of gas giants. Thanks, John.

[@4saken404]

I'm a big fan of Pluto. I hate the term "dwarf planet". I say we use the term "planetoid" instead. I think it's a great term for these sort-of-planets we keep discovering. And although the word already exists we don't currently use it for much of anything.

[@WildStar2002]

Really enjoyed this video! And thank you so much for your digression on Pluto. I have long felt the same way. The exclusion of Pluto as a planet because it has not 'cleared it's orbital neighborhood' has always felt so artificial to me. I would count any object that is large enough to be round due to gravity but not large enough to undergo fusion as a planet. If that means there are hundreds of planets in our solar system, what of it? Thanks for another fantastic video! 😄

[@thefinerbs7157]

Your treatment of Pluto has earned a subscibe. I agree with all your reasons to keep calling it a planet. I never stopped either

[@BrettonFerguson]

So the solar system currently has 1.6 million known planets. When done scanning the sky we are expected to have 80 million planets. In 1986 I saw Haley's planet in the sky. Earth currently has more than 170 million moons. Jupiter has 50,000 known moons, with more getting trapped and some falling into the atmosphere everyday. Yeah I'm going to disagree on this one. It does matter if we end up with an unwieldy number. We need clear definitions and categories.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

I'd go with the potato radius of 500 km. If it can pull itself into a sphere, and it directly orbits the sun, it should be a planet. Otherwise we make it counterintuitive and when teaching introductory science in grade schools, you don't have to launch into explaining the IAU's criteria to 8 year olds which is what's being done now. Yes, this promotes Ceres to a planet, but that's far less of a problem than explaining why Pluto is not. Astronomically speaking, it doesn't matter, because planet is a term of convenience we keep around for legacy reasons and understandability. If we want to get technical, we start saying ice giant, gas giant, terrestrial etc.

[@aliquraishi3525]

Always looking forward to John's posts. Another informative video. Thanks.

[@tradtke101]

How does this video not have 19 billion views yet? The jupiter controlled media

[@brownwhale5518]

Hi John

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Hello everyone.

[@DavidFMayerPhD]

I like your INCLUSIVE approach to planet-hood to include Pluto and all other dwarf minor planets; anything that is not a start and is rounded by gravity.

[@CHRB-nn6qp]

It's quite fitting that Jupiter was first observed in detail around the renaissance because its surface literally looks like a renaissance painting in a way. It's beautiful :)

[@masonnasty3293]

your narrative is so fascinating. I wish you could include more animations to enhance the narrative with illustration.

[@unheilbargut]

It is a new year and you still are one of my favorite KZbin-Star and underline this with another wonderful video.

[@unheilbargut]

And yes, Pluto needs to be a Planet again. And Ceres, too. Everything else is celestial racism, in my opinion.

[@Chad_Thundercock]

15:56 Chad Thundercock appreciates how John is just leaning in to his outro.

[@liminal-waves]

Really great, JMG. Love Jupiter.

[@hunterhalo2]

Interior of Saturn next! This was awesome.

[@georgefspicka5483]

Very interesting presentation. I especially liked your defense of Pluto's status as a planet.

[@JanetStarChild]

I thought Pluto was demoted, not for its size, but because it didn't clear out all the debris in its orbit.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Problem is that Jupiter hasn't cleared its orbit either and actually has more material to clear than Pluto does.

[@JanetStarChild]

@@JohnMichaelGodier Woah! I never knew that! Okay, now I see where you're coming from.

[@ssherrierable]

Wow you’ve been to Jupiter too dude? Man, you’ve done it all brother im in awe…

[@xanderunderwoods3363]

I could listen to these all day 😊

[@benjystrauss2524]

Thanks for standing up ton the idiots at the IAU. The reason we should consider Pluto a planet is not because of sentimentality, but because not doing so would be inherently nonsensical.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Yeah, it just seems to me sensible to class anything that's round and directly orbiting a star a planet. If a planet has a natural object orbiting it, it's a moon. I understand this would make Ceres a planet, but I'd much rather make one asteroid a planet than demote Pluto and the Kuiper belt objects to "minor" status, when they are among the most interesting things in the solar system.

[@benjystrauss2524]

@@JohnMichaelGodier In fact, I see it to make even more sense to just say the moon is a planet, that way we are describing things based on their actual properties rather than their trajectories.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

You could make that argument, that Earth and the moon are a double planet system, but also Pluto and Charon. Right now they're calling it a dwarf planet with a moon. That's bull in a china shop terminology right there. I tend to err on the side of caution and say that in such situations the principle is the planet, and the secondary is the moon just to keep it simple for teaching. If we ever find two identical mass exoplanets we can call that a binary exoplanetary system and not get any blowback because of the addition of "exo". But the IAU trying to constrain a very broad vernacular term was just not going to work, and look at the comments, over 15 years later everyone still disagrees on it. That was not the function of the IAU to do that.

[@xbfalcon83]

Why are you insinuating that Pluto was demoted solely base on size?

[@LuisAldamiz]

Yes, small potato-shapen satellites should be demoted, the excess of minor satellites hinders the proper recognition of the large planet-like one (which are the only ones to be "planetoids" AFAIK). There's only one Moon, the rest are just satellites, not really "moons". The term can be used in terms poetic but should not be a technical one, and that's how it's used for example in Spanish.