The Bizarre Case of Nathan Carman

[@ThatChapter]

On June 15, 2023, Nathan Carman was found dead in his cell awaiting trial which was due to go ahead in October. His cause of death is not known but it's believed to have been self-inflicted. He was 29 years old.

[@wobblyjelly345]

Somehow this brings me relief. He gave me very bad vibes just watching him and his piercing, yet vacant stare. He was cold and clinical.

[@raymac5235]

I literally came back to this video to tell you this. It's crazy how on top of things you are. Good on you. 😀

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

​@@raymac5235 lol same 😅

[@butterflykisses2592]

oh i was just about to comment that he died... beat me to it

[@nicoleflierl637]

Wow, this case was strange, I'm not sure how it would go, even tho I think he was a lot more understanding to what's going on the some give him credit for

[@Nawojczyk]

Dude, I’ve told you this before. I’m the retired coroner of Little Rock, Ar and you and the Coffeehouse Crime guy are my go to true crime creative geniuses. I had a tendency to ignore most crime stuff since I was on the death job for so long. But, you make it enjoyable and I occasionally spit my coffee across the room when you deliver a zinger as only you can do. Thanks.

[@bbe3034]

I love Coffee House Crime, also, along with Mike of course! They have the best channels!

[@commonsense571]

Ha me too I love the unexpected giggles that he throws our way🙈😁😅

[@davidgerowmusicchannel]

i'm with you, mike has the best such channel on youtube. fantastic host...

[@tebogomarozva2237]

Aaah here,Mike and coffee house crime ♥️ ❤

[@bluesky5384]

Mike makes murder as lighthearted as possible lol

[@Psycosmological]

I’ve seen every That Chapter video as a long time subscriber, never thought I’d see myself in one! Shout out to Coast Guard Boston! This was a wild case for us.

[@phoenixdavida8987]

cool. where? timestamp?

[@keridesireeGerBaldi]

@@phoenixdavida8987 weirdo

[@mariebee3146]

@@keridesireeGerBaldi Why is he wierd for asking that?

[@amandanegrete1306]

Did you interact directly with Nathan?

[@siilkyjohnson5779]

@@keridesireeGerBaldi have you seen your name? Who's the weirdo... maybe the guy had a personal experience with Nathan and the commenter was intrigued. Have you ever been in one of these videos? Especially one this strange. Fix up, nobody likes a negative clown like you

[@ScoobyDoozy]

The similarities between him & Martin Bryant are uncanny. A relief to know he has died- he absolutely would forever be a risk to others.

[@sabbymw]

I never think of how much work Mike is actually doing. I would never be able to find such an amiable mix of seriousness, quality editing, and story telling on like an old school tv channel. 29 minutes no commercials and another great video. Mike is a machine.

[@puffdaddy69]

He definitely has someone who does his editing/post-production on his videos

[@cgmuhoza]

The day he doesn't say: Let's give it a G...🏃I am calling the cops. No shame No games

[@nonyabidnazz7487]

the best kind of machine!! sexy.. quirky.. smart as a whip.. quick witted.. funny AF and dedicated to his craft.. check out some of his vids from 3 years ago.. same quirky style.. just a lil stiff and less sure.. now his timing is impeccable!! I could watch and listen to him all day.. oh wait.. sometimes I do!! thanks to youtube binging!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@sabbymw]

@@puffdaddy69 think so? I guess I like the idea of a self produced thing so much I forgot he can def afford to pay a lackey now. But in the beginning, same stuff.

[@1985sk8ter]

@@sabbymw 100% he definitely has a team that helps him at this point. No discredit to him but he definitely has an editor and maybe people to find topics/write scripts. That’s just how these bigger channels operate. Either way love his content

[@Hawaii902]

His mother was a neighbor of mine in Middletown CT. She had the most beautiful yard and dogs. And, she was always very nice to me whenever I would see her. Such a tragedy.

[@sylvia106]

What kind of dogs did they have?

[@whitedragoness23]

I would be in shock if I knew a family and something like this happened

[@Tommyspaghetti]

She drained one of his trust funds though.

[@lisahinton9682]

@@Tommyspaghetti She also knew there was more where that came from. So, essentially, no, she didn't drain it (since there was more).

[@Tommyspaghetti]

@@lisahinton9682 lol

[@curiousottman]

This definitely is the best true crime channel on KZbin. Hats off to you Mike.

[@StandinOnBuniss]

I think lazy mascarade is much better

[@bellah8221]

This is so crazy ! Years ago. My boss than and I cleaned there house Linda’s house . I remember seeing Nathan in his RV . She was always on edge because of Nathan . This is so sad !

[@electricaf365]

Fake news

[@giiness508]

@@electricaf365 troll.

[@nancywright2680]

You’re only saying that because he’s autistic. You have know idea if she was on edge . And remember being Autistic has nothing to do with him killing them .

[@gaaraxnaru]

​@nancywright2680 You're the one that's assuming that it had to do with his autism. He'd already proven to be a danger, he held a knife to another kid's neck as a child and had a history psychotic breaks, why is it such a stretch to think she'd be afraid of him especially especially now that he was older and bigger.

[@themischief420]

it's crazy how much your channel has grown since i first started watching you, and your content is consistently respectful to victims and funny without being at their expense. you never fail to tell the details in an interesting way.

[@yunizaah]

He deserves it. Hard work really pays

[@Movetheproduct]

I saw him first, which means i won.

[@ajayaday91]

Agreed. Been watching since the beginning. Knew he would make it big.

[@fionahamilton7231]

People like his content. They are going to subscribe

[@VioletJoy]

Ditto. I remember when he was super calm and didn't joke around as much. He's even added more humor these past few months and I love it. NONE of these crimes are funny at all, but sometimes the humor helps to get through these horrific stories.

[@chaseTheCase9]

“That went down about as well as chickenpox did” Mike, you make me burst out laughing 🤣 Always a good ol one!

[@nofreehooks]

Some of the cases you cover are so insane. I don’t understand how they don’t get more coverage. You’re doing theses people a justice by covering it.

[@ljgfb]

I'm from CT. Tons of coverage to come believe me. Scary eyes on that guy

[@alanak7421]

Couldn't agree more 👏.. He does a bloody great job!

[@BikingVikingHH]

The only cases that ever get coverage ate when a black man regardless of circumstances receives harm at the hands of a white man.

[@MT-dh2tr]

Actually there are multiple episodes on other KZbinrs… Mike is somewhat always late covering his stories….

[@johnnyallenshaneprater4870]

If you're in the true crime community you know about this case

[@mariabetancourt8935]

Mike, you are a great storyteller. I love your witty sense of humor. You surely make each story interesting and come to life. Thank you for your time and efforts.

[@breenakeefe6540]

A few months ago I introduced my parents to your channel, and now we all watch your videos together! We love you Mike

[@catherineharcourt8592]

Agree❤

[@houseofsolomon2440]

As a former part time commercial fisherman from New England, this case has greatly interested me. So glad to see you cover it! 🌿

[@andytyler6252]

So, what's the issue with fishing the underwater canyon? Why is it dangerous?

[@houseofsolomon2440]

@@andytyler6252 Nothing inherently dangerous @ Block canyon, aside from sea/weather conditions - seems like the dangerous factor here is Nathan's decision making skills / judgment.

[@kingcosworth2643]

@@houseofsolomon2440 Does the surface swell at Block Canyon increase more than the northern waters due to the depth and aggressive sea wall that appears to be there? Or was it just the distance from land that the mother was probably concerned about with Forrest Gump at the controls?

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@houseofsolomon2440 Besides going to Block Canyon being (perhaps) a poor decision, especially on top of the poor decisions he made with boat repairs, is it possible that he was also just INCORRECT about where the boat was when the alleged crisis occurred? Like have you heard/read anything about what kind of navigational equipment he had, and whether he understood how to use it?

[@Tommy88-]

That sounds like a fun job. Makes me think of the perfect storm.

[@flayful]

When I heard you said "insurance", I expected the dance but nothing happened then I realized, oh, it's not life insurance... And yes, I strongly agree you need an INHERITANCE dance or an "it's not about the money" dance (when it obviously is)~ LOL. Awesome content as always, Mike~

[@burgundyyearwood7376]

Yes! A "mama's money" dance. 🤣

[@JennAyBaybAyy]

"The dance".... love it! ❤❤❤💯💯👍

[@sabbymw]

He can't just dance every time. It'd take the fun away. Although unique dances for each kind of murder motive would be fun.

[@alvinahill7975]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LadyLakeland]

Yessss!!!... less true crime more Soul Train.

[@JustDiane71]

I'm in Connecticut and I remember when the boating "accident" happened. This was all over the news..i remember thinking there's more to this once I saw the kid yapping on the news. May his mom rest in peace.

[@LifesPeachy321]

I miss CT...just moved to TN. He doesn't explain how it went from finding the boat bringing on water to his mother just vanishing. Ridiculous story. Here's an UPDATE: Nathan Carman has died in federal custody, according to a new court filing from federal prosecutors. “The United States received information from the U.S. Marshal that Carman died on or about June 15, 2023.

[@mleh2512]

Inheritance Dance you say? Don’t be silly. You’d pay someone else to dance for you. Great video as always Mike. Your ability to describe unique characters in a way that’s interesting and entertaining without ever mocking is beyond admirable.

[@thatoneguyonyoutube4897]

@@aprilmay1700 lol exactly. The life insurance dance is a dead giveaway of the mocking 😂

[@ringo1692]

@@aprilmay1700 MLE H may have been referring to the victims when saying "not mocking" not the perpetrator. (Who definitely deserves ALL the mocking Mike can come up with!)

[@TheGreatDanish]

Man, he mocks the killers *relentlessly*

[@mleh2512]

To clarify: Mocking and bullying are aimed at an inherent trait or feature over which one has no control; such as the idiosyncratic social styles along the autism spectrum. Mike does not do that. Now, ridiculing or pointing out when someone is just being an idiot or an asshole, that’s fine! Join the crowd!!!

[@thatoneguyonyoutube4897]

@@mleh2512 mocking means to tease someone. It doesn’t have to be over a specific trait. You can be mocked just because you say or do something stupid.

[@fantastictoad8853]

Wow! To be in a family which has that amount of money and to live the way they did, yet be so entitled and abusive is just perplexing to me.

[@Komediennekymd2009]

It's disgusting! Yet u see so many poor ppl who find have happy fulfilling lives.

[@Timto900]

Yeah that’s what money does

[@rocketamadeus3730]

I'm sure the autism didn't help. He doesn't exactly come across as empathetic.

[@thatdamncrow9197]

“Live the way they did” not only did he have mental health problems and a dad who divorced his mother His mom and dad literally had him kidnapped and sent to a behavior place

[@amandastakeonit7402]

It seems to be very common.

[@acegoldengloves1133]

Where would I be in life with the old “give it a goo” lol love this guy!

[@LifesPeachy321]

*UPDATE: Nathan Carman has died in federal custody, according to a new court filing from federal prosecutors. “The United States received information from the U.S. Marshal that Carman died on or about June 15, 2023.*

[@vanessacarman5031]

I'm always excited when Mike gets a new addition to his wardrobe!

[@MusicLeeSarah]

That Polaroid shirt is epic!!! My favorite addition... So far lol 😉

[@maryreid3387]

For sure!!

[@andrewmaina8422]

Indeed, this dude is on a roll. He should begin his own Mike collection. Now to watch it, came to check out the shirt comment first.

[@srb2591]

Lol

[@brandonkruse6412]

My fiancé and I have been watching you every week for two years, since our first date 😌 Thanks for the great content!

[@joski9030]

I sense Miles is single 🤣

[@johno30197]

EVERYWEEK DAT DEDICATION WOW!!

[@dirtydangler]

@@IHateGuysFullofShit any tips on finding a boyfriend?

[@brandonkruse6412]

@@IHateGuysFullofShit something tells me you know all about that

[@rydz656]

Sad.

[@denisemay6807]

This kid us a helluva lot more articulate in court than he ever was in previous interviews

[@debradowner8761]

Most likely heavily coached by his legal team.

[@supraguy4694]

In the interviews he sounds like an alien that forgot to study for his human personality test until the night before

[@buggyboogle9]

Also doesn’t speak in that slow, measured way, as he did during his initial media appearances

[@LPCLASSICAL]

It's amazing how the prospect of a $7M inheritance can up your game

[@Carab3671]

Absolutely this seems like a completely different person watching him in court

[@wiggindorfthemagnificent]

Super weird to see this on a channel I regularly watch. My friend went in a couple of dates with him way back around right before this went down. He was a huge creep. After not talking for a bit dude even tried to meet up with her again clearly low-key trying to guilt her into another date because "his mom just died and needed someone to talk to". I 100% believe he did it.

[@quickchris10]

What were they thinking, letting a special-needs person have a gun hobby?! Was he not aware of his emotional limitations? They all sound like they were maximally messed up trust-funders.

[@flawedplan]

@@quickchris10 What limitations? Autism is a gift.

[@vermilliongecko]

@@flawedplan Psychosis? Less so.

[@quickchris10]

@@flawedplan they said in his case he lacked ability to empathize and they knew this early on, so if they were trying to teach him to work up a little semblance of empathy, he would have known this was a shortcoming. People do know their shortcomings, so they can adapt and grow and focus on their abilities.

[@quickchris10]

@@flawedplan Also what do you mean, ``what limitations;'' that everyone doesn't have limitations?

[@sandiasurfers3174]

So glad they're finally charging this dude, thanks for covering. Cheers Mike

[@kevinstachovak8842]

There's a lot of true crime stuff everywhere, but Mike comes across as that buddy that always has amazing stories to tell over a couple pints

[@MandiMomOf9Channel]

True 😂

[@maryirish8382]

it's our Irish sense of humour, insulting/taking the mick out your friend is seen as a sign that "ya love them" lol.

[@kevinstachovak8842]

@@maryirish8382 he definitely 'has the craic', I adore that aspect of Irish culture

[@keithp6699]

@@maryirish8382 There are times when Mike sort of reminds me of Podge and Rodge A Scare at Bedtime, even though he's nothing like them.

[@jackieblue9536]

Yessss🍺🍺🍺🍺...😎

[@shannonstevens8750]

Mike, you just get better and better! Channels with big teams behind them have nothing on you big dog! Thanks for your hard work and dedication. It's why we love you across the globe. ❤ 🇨🇦

[@JennAyBaybAyy]

💯💯💯💯❤👍

[@reginamushi6582]

Indeed,,🇹🇿

[@ferniejoke]

🇲🇽

[@cupcake030584]

🇩🇪

[@hayleybayle]

Totally agree...he's funny and love his vids..he doesn't say like and subscribe every 2 seconds either! Love this guy😜💚🤍🧡

[@mariebee3146]

Hi Mike! I just read an article about Nancy Crampton Brophy. She wrote a book on how to kill your husband and is now being convicted or has been convicted of killing her husband. I'd love to hear the details of that one. There's also the Browns Chicken murders in Palatine, IL. I'd like to see you do that story as well. Love what you do. Always looking forward to new episodes.

[@berriosstudio]

Yes Mike please do those And the lane Bryant Murder in tinley park Illinois

[@grainneminihane625]

Yes I read that article too, absolutely crazy 🤪

[@Luna.3.3.3]

yes!! So weird! It was actually a news headline here in Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦 I don't know if Mike gets to reading comments, but he has a Reddit page where you can suggest stories for him to investigate. I might try that and see what happens

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

there are tons of videos on it already

[@hbascpsad08]

He has a link where you can submit a case that you'd like to see him cover. I'll see if I can find it and you can put in the request

[@jillwiegand4257]

Is anyone else addicted to these stories? Love the music. And Mike has a million and one great facial expressions while telling the stories 🤣!!!!

[@amybe573]

Just based on his number of subscribers (fellow addicts 😁🥰), I'd not be surprised to learn of a new DSM-5 code dedicated solely to Mike addiction coming soon! I mean, if I had to guess. 😉 He really is the best, without a doubt!!

[@RONPEE-STINGER]

Been watching for turd teen months

[@jillwiegand4257]

@@RONPEE-STINGER lololol! 🤣

[@rullmourn1142]

@@amybe573 .. Stop fangirling.

[@amybe573]

@@rullmourn1142 But how? And, more importantly...why? 😋 If ever there existed someone to bring out the fangirl in me, there is no one better than Mike to do so! 😁

[@marjolewis9405]

Mike, I would love to see you do the story of millionaire John Pinder out of Utah. That story has everything, ostriches, an African lion that rides around in a pickup truck , dynamite and criminal stupidity, and so much more.

[@rustinstardust2094]

😯 I must see this.

[@Anne-uk6zp]

I’ve been in Utah 20 years and I’ve never heard of this. I’m so ashamed of myself lol I’m gonna go look it up now thank you !

[@Djhawt]

Sounds rad

[@LunchIsOnMeTemporarily]

@@Anne-uk6zp same!!

[@crystalrosas6052]

@@Anne-uk6zp if it's true I wanna c it also

[@dude3328]

Thanks!

[@yowatchie]

Seriously Mike, thanks for all the work you do. It’s always a dope upload and everyone looks forwards to Tuesday’s and Fridays more because of it.

[@ThatChapter]

Means a lot to read that, thank you!

[@MusicLeeSarah]

Facts!

[@MusicLeeSarah]

@@ThatChapter I love that you interact with your fans/subscribers and you're so appreciative! You are a breath of fresh air on this platform my friend 💛🙏💛

[@yowatchie]

@@ThatChapter no problem man. It’s crazy how you’re usually able to put out 2 half hour videos a week considering all the research, audio and video references and even additional materials from people’s private lives that are relevant to the case on top of editing and filming. It’s impressive shit.

[@baz9887]

@@MusicLeeSarah it’s the best thing getting a like & reply from the captain

[@kleague41]

You're one of the best story tellers I've heard. Your videos are well researched, well put together, and your sense of humor is great. Thank you for everything you do and all your hard work! You only need to add an "Inheritance Dance"!

[@Ellierua]

Thanks Mike for all the effort.. It's a bit mad that we get excited when a new video arrives but you're humour adds so much.. Weirdly takes me out of the banal day to day things so thank you for that!!

[@maryreid3387]

The Best!!

[@francesglenn2117]

You said it?!!! 🙏🏼✌🏼💖💯🎭🌎🦩🤓

[@colingreen8825]

Have just come across your channel a couple of days ago and can not stop watching. I love they way you tell a story and the humor you inject is absolutely on par. Keep up the awesome work. Cheers from Auckland New Zealand.

[@alisonmiller7445]

Having the worst day. Chronic illness sucks. My day just got better. Thanks Mike. Love your videos!

[@Lesl68]

@Allison Miller. You have been added to my prayers. God bless you and your family 💘

[@VioletJoy]

Same here Allison. A good portion of my life (mostly in bed) is KZbin and most of that is true crime. 😁 Somehow getting into stories like this take me away for a bit. Sorry to hear about your illness. It's definitely not fun.

[@ZombieSazza]

I feel you - hope the flare up isn’t too terrible and you’re able to cope x

[@ZombieSazza]

@@VioletJoy hello fellow bedridden disabled buddy! Same, a large portion is spent on KZbin watching crime videos lol

[@alisonmiller7445]

Thank you everyone 💕

[@M.S.44.44]

Thanks for all you do and for being who you are!! Let’s give it a goo! Hehe, Love you Mike!

[@colincioe1264]

I’m so glad you chose to cover a case from New England, I’m from Rhode Island and absolutely love your content! Let’s give it a geeew !!

[@ZombieMiezz]

Nah it's: Let's give it a goo (;

[@ericdraven3427]

Hello fellow Rhodes islander, I'm Here from Bristol

[@ThatChapter]

As always, thank you for watching, ‘cause I love ya! If you wanna see two true crime videos every week please subscribe!

[@kimmyfreak200]

plot twist: he was never autistic...he pulled a kaiser soze and faked it... brilliant sociopath!

[@OrchestralOrg]

*already subscribed. Listen, we were in Boston and nyc at the same time. It hurt so bad that I couldn’t meet you. I found out you were arriving in Boston and literally spontaneously right after I picked up a job that would take me through my birthplace (Boston) the same night. After I finished work I hung out in nyc waiting for my train back to Connecticut and you were in nyc. Drove me batty that we were both in the same fricken place, twice, but couldn’t connect. Sigh. Next time, alright? Alright!*

[@wintercomesearly]

Love ya back, Mike! From Michigan, the Great Lakes State, USA.

[@aye70aye]

Mike you are in a class of your own, been subscribed since your very early days (Captain!) Love ya back! Hugs from Worcester, England x

[@marilynproctor3485]

Already a subscriber and have been for awhile. I love ya too! Watching from Canada 🇨🇦💞💞💞

[@missesmaryrose]

We love you more mike thanks for being here for us maintaining this awesome content!!!

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you, Mary!

[@chrissyj3974]

@@ThatChapter Mike 🐐

[@maryfrances1307]

Not to mention his excellent use of punctuation. Swoon!

[@11030]

“Never gonna give you up” For the New dance.

[@msstarlight4770]

@@ThatChapter Nice Shirt!

[@johno30197]

Can we all just appreciate the time and effort mike put's into getting these great storie's and putting them out twice weekly over the last few year's the man's a legend thank's Mike!

[@orosedobheathaabhaile]

Thanks mum.

[@yunizaah]

Everything you said

[@sumimasenq1]

And he does all the things himself, the script, the editing, it's all him. Mike is great.

[@johno30197]

@@sumimasenq1 totally agree mate!

[@hannah1948]

agreed!!! mike you are the best!!!!!

[@johnbrennan8611]

Being someone who lives in southern Connecticut I remember this story was EVERYWHERE!!! I remember seeing the Coast Guard Blackhawk style helicopters going up & down the coast for days.

[@BerkshireBitch]

@Mark Stewger @John Brennan Local angle for me as well, as Grandpa built nursing homes nearby and had a house in Vermont, also close.

[@JessyJess04]

I saw this case on ID about a year ago and remembered thinking that I couldn't believe how they were buying his gimp act. Amber Heard is a better actor than this guy! Glad to see they are finally charging him

[@Pisces-1978]

Lol From Boston + remember this so well also. I'm loling cuz I believed him when it happened. When I saw he was arrested just recently + reheard the story...I don't know how I believed him. Playing the autistic card maybe got me? The fact I can't understand murdering your mother at sea, stranding yourself while doing this hoping someone finds you for an inheritance you'd receive eventually anyway may play a factor in why I believed him 🤷‍♀️ I'm glad he was finally arrested + hope the rest of his life is complete misery. He got all my sympathy back when he planned + executed this twisted strange heinous act against the 1 woman on the planet who truly loved him.

[@thornmatthew8395]

Dolphin?

[@joelhague5515]

John, I live in RI. This guy launched the boat from a Marina in the town I live in!

[@goblintechies4396]

As someone with a kid with autism, it is challenging as the mind of such a kid is just wired differently. Not necessarily malicious like Nathan, just different. from the story of Nathan Carman, it seemed like he had loving people around him, but when his favorite horse died, something broke within him.

[@alisong2328]

I wonder if he's also schizophrenic. Symptoms often don't get bad until someone is in their twenties.

[@janicesarahdionisio8493]

Mike really has a way of narrating. With all due respect to the case, I kept wanting to laugh because of how Mike interjects some thoughts like the boat's name as chickenpox, "isn't that a condition?" . I have to admit, I lost it right there.

[@jigsawkiller]

"Soak in that sea air, virtually, raise the thingy... sail, and we head off." My kinda story.

[@JudyDeed]

I can't get enough of your videos! Please don't ever change your intro. I can't help but to dance every time I hear that music 🙂

[@thatsjassie]

I remember hearing about this cases a year or two ago and I had a feeling he killed her but at the time they couldn't charge him so I'm glad they finally are able to and I think he killed his grandfather as well since he was the last person to see him and everything. Everything just points back to Nathan in the end. Money hungry is all it is.

[@Anonymous38572]

Money is the bottom line in almost every case. This is no different. "Murder kid" lol

[@joanodom2104]

I certainly hope he didn't allow the horse to suffer and die. Equine colic is agonizingly, horrifically painful. 😭

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

Ugh. It reminds me of Edmund Kemper bs - the murder of his grandparents who were generously caring for him (for which he served very little time as he was a minor, also the time period had idiotic ideas about being able to “reform” minority offenders of Kemper’s level of violence), and he placated the mental health “professionals” by reading through manuals and repeating verbatim what he knew they wanted to hear). Of course once released from the useless juvenile system, he became an (in)famous serial killer who worked with the FBI in the earliest days of the criminal behavior unit (see Mindhunter Season One). He brutally murdered and desecrated his mother (her body) and her friend - in addition of course to many young women he picked up using his mother’s parking stamp as a UCSC employee to promote his “legit” status to the hesitant young women and minors (he was a SA/viciously sadistic serial killer). These murders, despite his mommy dearest-esque claims, we’re about his own anger and desire for power. He discusses this at length (unlike GSK for example Kemper LOVES LOVES LOVES hearing his own voice).

[@markdenton3141]

That’s not evidence.

[@MEGVTRON]

Im interested in everything you have to say

[@allylabar21]

22:16 I was getting ready to say that he looked pretty damn good for being out to sea for 8 days and really freaking calm as hell!

[@jrb4347]

Even his facial hair was perfectly groomed

[@yn9229]

Tbf people with ASD tend to seem ‘robotic’ or monotone in general. I do think this case is very suspicious though.

[@Baird222]

Great coverage, Mike! I live one town over from Nathan, which is a town of around 3000 people. This story has been huge around here for years. Cool to see you giving it a goo!

[@harpergrace5846]

This is more in depth than any other story I’ve seen on him

[@candacegutherie]

Agreed. And also thankful that he’s finally charged. Wonder if he’s gonna represent himself again?

[@BasketcaseBlake]

I live in Southington CT and I’ve never heard of this case, wow. Thank you for covering this story.

[@bigbeefscorcho]

Those “behavioral camps” some people send their kids to are all out, downright torturous and any parent should be ashamed for doing that to their child. I have a close friend who was forced into one and they still have enduring trauma from the entire experience, it is horrific and often penalizes children with mental problems for exhibiting the symptoms of those problems, something they often cannot help

[@favae4033]

It teaches them discipline, my best friend was sent there for messing up a lot at home and doing drugs, he went away there and came back a better man. Just graduated from college and we couldnt be more proud

[@guywiththebottle]

Need big brother to crack down on it then.

[@annemariemyburgh7252]

BUT I DO GET WHAT YOU TRYING TO SAY

[@chrisfortin4933]

Great episode! Mike was on point with his funny puns on this one. I literally laughed out loud multiple times lol

[@chesterrenner6294]

I'm glad you did this episode. I had seen portions of the court hearing where his aunt's had sued him and had been wondering what had transpired since then. Thanks for the update.

[@janicesarahdionisio8493]

And again when Mike said "I need an inheritance" I was rolling on the floor, though I don't know why Mike's dry humor gets me all the time. It's his delivery. You're a natural , man. If you get tired of this, go be a comedian- you're already well known anyway.

[@vivnoname]

As much as I love watching Mikes videos, they show that there is no end to the inhumanity of humans. There are so many videos over the years of the deprivation, greed and utter indifference to the lives of others. Thank you Mike for your dedication to uncovering these horrible crimes.

[@ar2043]

Oh nice. Not only do I get a new “that chapter“ video, but it’s about a story in my home state!!!! 👍 Thank you Mike!!!!

[@Instrument_of_Peace]

Yes! Mine too! Good ole Connecticut!! I grew up swimming and sailing on the long island sound, block island sound and the Atlantic!

[@14nads]

The production quality, flow, and host of this channel are pretty epic.... thank you Mike for the crazy amount of effort you put into these videos that we all flock to watch!

[@meganallred5705]

I could listen to you for days. Your wit and sarcasm are so refreshing and funny.

[@sniffdogma]

I laughed so hard at your pause, your side shrug, your expression: "The Murder Kid". Go, Mike! And omg Dbl crack up that the young lover "earned" any money she was receiving, ouchy LOL.

[@floraposteschild4184]

Interesting how much more articulate Nathan sounds when he's defending himself in court.

[@The_Cholo]

Right.

[@asmodiusjones9563]

Yeah but why on earth is he making argument himself?!?

[@CristyB66]

Compared to when?

[@Aaron_Hanson]

That’s the first thing I noticed. Was he representing himself in this case?? Because it didn’t look like he was giving evidence from the witness stand. He’s a moron whose playing the “Dummy” hand whilst thinking he’s too clever for investigators. I’m going with guilty on both cases of murder. Although it might be possible that his grandfather was a mercy killing or perhaps his grandfather had been in on his own death and Nathan is simply sticking to the scenario that his grandfather had laid out for him to follow? It’s not a likely scenario but it’s also not an impossible one either.

[@crystald8465]

@@asmodiusjones9563 I was thinking the same thing!

[@michelerowland8453]

As a native Bostonian and now a more recent Vermonter, I can’t believe I did not know about this story. Another tremendous effort, Mike ! Keep your wonderful stories coming…. M. McLaughlin Rowland

[@vangogo6819]

Many years ago I stayed at a drug rehab on land that Nathan Carmans grandfather owned. He also owned a restaurant in another town not overly far away. I was living on the coast North of Boston at that time. I got married and ended up living not too far from that drug rehab and some other property Nathan's grandfather owned. My husband and I couldn't believe it. It is so sad what the lust for riches does to people, we struggle, but are happy.

[@Ironbattlemace]

Ayy, am walking 'ere!

[@vangogo6819]

@@Ironbattlemace Are yah? Whaddayah doin'? Watchin thuh game?☘☘☘

[@fahr]

@@Ironbattlemace that's new york my boy, boston is more like "hay I'm pahkin my cah heeah"

[@jugglingthejenkins]

Your videos and little sayings are the only constant in my life…🙌

[@awAtercoLorstaIn.]

Aw. Do you want a hug? We can even schedule weekly hugs. It’s not much but it’d be a nice constant if you need it. I’ll set a reminder. Let me know. E: Omg I love you too! You are so funny! In lieu of hugs, here come the likes!

[@jigsawkiller]

@@awAtercoLorstaIn. subscribe to her page and she will consider it a virtual hug, buddy.

[@AuntyLeelee]

Heey i love you 😍 💗

[@kimberlyfaunce3273]

I follow your channel too! Your videos have helped me through a lot of days!!! What are the odds of me seeing you in the comment thread!

[@francescawilliams8177]

Mine too. And my blocked ex.

[@Ste_Brit]

I only know of about 1 in 20 of your stories Mike, and for someone who hates repeats of anything at all that’s a huge bonus for me. Just one reason I love your channel so much 👍

[@shazcon71]

Hi Mike hope you had an amazing holiday. Good to have you back twice a week. I’m away from home but the most important thing is I’ve got WiFi for Tuesday and Friday. Priorities 😆♥️

[@Muralikrishna99]

Me too

[@nilesredfern7989]

My grandparents were like parents to me for years. They took me in as a troubled pre-teen and saved my life. I've always suspected I'm somewhere on the spectrum, but my grandmother was old-fashioned and wasn't keen on getting me tested. 😂 Anyway, my heart breaks at stories where grand/parents go through stuff like this...Especially really good, kind guardians...He didn't see how blessed he was. That is, assuming he did it. The evidence stacked against him is astounding.

[@MonsterMacLLC]

I hope they screen the jury for this kind of extended family bias that many adoptees in the US can not get a fair trial because of.

[@nilesredfern7989]

@@MonsterMacLLC okay.

[@JohnnyDogs1978]

@@nilesredfern7989 you found yourself a friendly pair, didn't you? Gotta love the comment section.

[@miaknig3130]

This reply thread took a fast turn. I'm glad you had loving grandparents and reciprocated the love.I haven't watched the full video yet, but I've seen the actual interviews w Nathan and there seems to be something more amiss than his autism. He knows how to stay alive drifting in rough waters and how stop an interview when questions get tough, but for anything else like police interviews he blames his autism for answers that don't seem to be true or legitimate. When he is confronted w facts and details that don't match his story, he says they misunderstood him bc of his autism.

[@nilesredfern7989]

@@miaknig3130 honestly the stuff that convinced me was the grandpa's murder. It's actually also possible he was framed, who knows? Maybe his mom found out about the gun and took it? I sincerely doubt it though. Another thing to convince me is all the tragedies surrounding Nathan, and the disturbing choices he made while he was a young lad--like holding another kid hostage at knifepoint. There is something amiss in him. Autism does not exclude or excuse evil behavior. /:

[@starrynight5153]

I absolutely LOVE you and your videos. You're the only person that can cover such serious cases yet make your viewers laugh at the same time but not in a completely distasteful way. It's very difficult to explain properly but, who cares as long as your dedicated subscribers are on board and willing to, "give it a goo" !!!

[@luluruckus55]

You're STILL too good to be true! When you said the boat part at the beginning and then said, "Don't you ever forget", I literally laughed out loud. You are so clever, you make it look easy. Wishing you continued success!

[@jeannievail]

You’re a great story teller and your content is top notch. Love you too, Mike.

[@Nanapoo]

I just want to tell you it really brights up my day to see you’ve uploaded a new video, I really look forward to them and you’ve make a huge difference in my life for the best. I enjoy true crime so much and you make it so fun and just make me have the best times laughing eating and a little high haha love you mike

[@robgorman6672]

I watch so many true crime creators but I must say the way you speak and tell a story is very capturing. Keep up the great work

[@jason0998]

His greed got him arrested

[@marysummer08]

I live in RI and never heard of this case. Thanks for covering it. Always shocking to hear about neighboring towns on my fave true crime channels.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

I'm from Vermont and have no recollection of it.

[@justvibinginouterdarkness]

Mike must be finally enjoying his well deserved KZbin money, look at all these new fancy shirts he has gotten lately! This one even has a stand up collar and more than 3 buttons! It isn't even navy blue! Good to see him thriving.

[@anikajoy5739]

That's not a new shirt lol

[@annacostello5181]

Bet his wife bought them

[@allengilby3054]

Cant wait until he opens a merch store!

[@sca8217]

Boy he really is living high on the hog.

[@judithbradford9130]

@@allengilby3054 he has one! i bought his shirt for my husband

[@malcontent1170]

I've been watching this all unfold on the news for years as I live in CT, and this was a great summation of the case so far. I'm not saying Connecticut deserves to be uttered in the same breath as Florida, Texas, and Ontario - but we've had some shocking crimes. Whenever I'm researching and I come across "life insurance" or "inheritance" as a factor, I used to just sing the chorus to Nelly's "Ride Wit Me" - namely, "It must be the monaaay". It goes without saying that I'm waiting for the new inheritance dance. Well done Mike.

[@JW-vd4il]

Cheshire Murders! I moved to CT almost 10 years ago. My Dad and his wife lived here at that time. When I was thinking of relocating, they were going on a month-long trip about a month later, so it was good timing for me to stay with them and check out the area a bit with their help, learn the pets routines and meet some neighbors, and then they'd be gone a month and I'd house-sit, check out the area some more etc. They were clearing out the DVR one day before they left and had something about the Cheshire Murders. (I think Dateline but I'm not positive.) My whole family is into True Crime so my Dad's wife said, "Oh, you should watch that. It happened not far from here." I did watch it after they were gone and I was alone. Part-way in I thought: this wasn't a good idea to watch this now. 😂 They had 2 big "scary" dogs who were cuddle-muffins with the fam but barked liked crazy beasts if any stranger approached their semi-rural house. Only thing that made me feel safe there! I stayed in CT but moved to a more populated area. Rural or even suburban life is not for me! I still might get murdered where I am but at least my neighbors will hear me screaming. So I'll have a chance. ? 😀 Since then there's also been the Jennifer Dulos case. I agree we're flying under the radar that there are a few too many crazy murders here!

[@13Skribbles]

When I was 15 my father was a senator and a leader in a church and a wealthy businessman and he wanted me to go to his church and I didn’t like his church so he had me shipped to one of those places in Idaho. They put me in a room very small room with a bed in the middle of that five point restraints the floor walls and ceiling or pink carpet Zane Nelson was my psychologist. And they left me there for days nobody ever was held accountable for the things that went on in that place That was in the 80s I can only imagine what it was like for this guy because I was mentally healthy and it was hard to get through

[@milaninter2442]

I feel like there's more than enough circumstantial evidence to charge him for his grandfather's murder, especially considering his motives and alibi. Keep us up to date with this one, please Mike.🙌

[@laurenochman93]

thats the issue. circumstantial. I highly doubt hed ever be found guilty

[@DrGarri]

@@laurenochman93 That's a cliché, many people have been condemned on crcunstantial evidence. If you sleep in your bedrrom with the doors and windows closed, and your dog also sleeps in the same bedroom on the carpet, then you wake up in the morning and see a huge dog poop on the it, that is circunstantial evidence, you did not see the dog taking a shit right in there, but that doesn't make the evidence less important or irrelevant. In this video it is obvious that the dog crapped all over the carpet.

[@goochmcduck4285]

Doubt it. He’s just plain rotten through and through.

[@SatanLiterally]

​@@DrGarri that's what makes it so easy for me to get away with shitting on dog owners' carpets.

[@Dogsrule777]

Dang! He was a complex little grifter. He sure loved to talk in court a lot! I had no idea it involved the poor grandfather too. Thx for breaking it down Mike! ✊🏽

[@tomsuiteriii9742]

Hello, fellow Thomas! But yes, he sounded like an actual attorney in his court speech-intelligent and reasonably well-spoken. But a grifter and a monster nonetheless. Scary stuff.

[@mariebee3146]

Before I learned about the grandfather, I thought he had something to do with mom's demise. Was saddened to hear he probably died at his grandson's hands. Terrible.

[@bhunterbmw335is2]

My grandfather does the same thing for my siblings and I, he worked so hard his whole life.. anyway, love this channel keep up the the good work

[@booytoyy69]

That must be nice I can't for my hard work to pay off so I can be rich

[@ELTRIZOMIK]

Bragging much lol

[@StormBella1005]

Love how you tell stories. Great work

[@chiefs2k]

I was glad to see you cover this story! I heard about it initially years ago on 20/20 or something similar. As always, I appreciate the extra background information and context you give to the story. I never knew what to think of Nathan. He is clearly very intelligent in some ways (not boat maintenance). I will definitely be keeping an eye on the trial proceedings...

[@lexiaaforever437]

This is definitely my favorite crime stories channel . Wether I’m working or relaxing or getting ready to sleep . I always love watching these videos . Great job Mike 🙌🏽🤍

[@zensbleexperience3470]

5.4 K views in the first 9 minutes! We are all here to have a GOO! I LOVE YOU MIKE YOU NEVER DISSAPOINT US! always grateful for your channel,content,fantastic story telling! Bravo Mike

[@katiekane5247]

Some might be from Patreon viewers. He does have it, doesn't he?

[@victorialeavitt3843]

Mike is better than half the stuff on tv. This young man should have a career in the media. So entertaining.

[@MartyrLoserKing]

You’d think he’d be able to afford a better mic with a million subs.

[@MagdaleneDivine]

It's almost as if being wealthy with tons of cash almost isolates and puts a huge target on your head making finding anyone who genuinely loves you impossible.

[@acaldwell64]

In no way does being wealthy result in that. Why on Earth would it? That doesn't even make sense. Sure, you might have a target on your back, probably not, but, maybe I guess. But, to have it isolate you to the point you can't form relationships? I'm lost on the logic.

[@WobblesandBean]

Uh huh. Poor rich people, how can they live in happiness with all their millions? We should start a charity for the downtrodden wealthy. 🙄

[@MagdaleneDivine]

@@acaldwell64 oh it's a common theme in all mikes videos. People getting murdered for financial gain

[@TheAcenightcreeper]

I can tell you its a curse, i wish i didnt have 50 million dollars because i cant find that true love…thankfully i can surround myself with whatever i want and do as i please…

[@acaldwell64]

@@MagdaleneDivine How does that explain what you said? Most murders are driven by financial means.

[@aaronpolselli3691]

Mike with a different shirt in his video! 😂 Always putting out quality content! Thank you for entertaining us all.

[@Mon77bon]

I noticed that too! 😜

[@GreatDakota]

Me too! A very nice shirt 😁👍

[@danielleiezzi]

There's a case of a missing female fire fighter in Brevard County named Brandy Hall that went missing in the city of Malabar. There's rumors of her death being a cover up because of a local fire chief having a marijuana growing operation and she knew too much. Something about a love triangle. It would be cool if you put a spot light on that. There's been so many signs "where's bandy?" in the most random places. For years. Someone knows something. It's really sad. Recently, they attempted a dig up of the lake where they presumed her truck with her body was dumped but a detective said that they believe the local police didn't have the equipment to dig deep enough. In my County, or state rather (Florida go figure) finding accidental deaths in retention ponds is very common. This, however, was not an accident. There's a lot to cover in this and the family would be more than willing to share what they know. Love ya Mike! Please give it a goo!

[@joanodom2104]

😲😨😵

[@gaaraxnaru]

If the family is willing to share, I suggest you bring this case to Kendall Rae too. She does cases with the families involved alot. Think she has a request form you can fill out.

[@lovelyjanuary]

Florida as it’s own “country” lol 🤣💕*freudian slip

[@lesflynn4455]

Other crime channels have covered Brandy Hall's case. I watched one last weekend.

[@gaaraxnaru]

@@lesflynn4455 Doesn't mean Mike and others can't cover it too. The more exposure the better for these cases.

[@greeneyes2296]

Your videos are like watching a show on tv. You are very charismatic and definitely are a fit for speaking to public. Love your channel. Subscribed yesterday.

[@jaywa101]

Aw Mike, you made me spew coffee 3 times. You really have a gift of wit. I love that you have very clear parameters between the humour about perps and sincere empathy for the victims. Your channel is a breath of fresh air. Long may it rules the Tube!!!

[@DomMazz]

Been following this case for a while and I've been HOPING YOU WOULD COVER IT!!! 🙏 thank you Mike. Domenic Bless

[@WobblesandBean]

I'm shocked at how straight up evil Nathan is.

[@realmissrosenoir]

You're helping me get through a horrible flu. Thank you for that. 🤧

[@baffledanderanged2101]

Hope you get to feeling better soon. 😊💝

[@bkitteh6295]

Feel better soon❣🤒💐

[@gr8fuldeb699]

Wow the kidnapping part of story. I have a whole new respect for Paris Hilton after hearing how that happened to her. When she confronts her family I was crying. That place probably brought the evil out.

[@alisong2328]

I saw a couple of documentaries about those schools. They were brutal!

[@pearlwhite3009]

I'm glad you covered this story, Mike. I watched an in-depth show about it, and Nathan seemed so believable that I came away convinced of his innocence. Now I'm having a little doubt about it. Great storytelling, and love your new shirt. :))

[@clash4421]

I lean towards him being innocent as well. Although I am not 100% convinced. I think the prosecution is going to have a hard time proving their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@Anonymous38572]

Murder kid!

[@albertschulz5575]

You found him believable???!! He has socially inept, manipulative, void-of-emotion, but possibly highly intelligent weirdo written all over him!!! Did you see the video where he "thanked the coastguard"?? He very, very obviously learned that by heart long before he killed his mom!! Did you look at his pictures? Not one smile in ANY of them! Nah, he's as guilty as they come.

[@fluffypink6unny]

7 days on a life raft, not cold, not hungry…

[@FreedomFox1]

@@fluffypink6unny Fair point, but if that was part of his plan then he was risking his own death.

[@rosekeyes3189]

I had no idea he was charged recently. So glad to hear it. I assumed he got away with murder twice.

[@thehauntedpineapple6851]

As always, Mike, never a dull & boring story. Job well done, as always! I look forward to seeing you again. BTW, loving the pop of color on your new shirts, 😉..

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

As always, never? Ain't that not not a bit over super-redundant in that it didn't need to be said because it already was... said?

[@falloutgirl3467]

@@jumpinjohnnyruss 🤣 took me a while to grasp what you said

[@Ali-kb8gr]

Yeah.. I'm liking the shirts too 🤗

[@shanmareewalker7836]

I'm still wondering where he was for the week he was missing. Clearly he wasn't lost at sea because nobody could be in as fine a condition as Nathan.

[@dlbstl]

Good question 🤔

[@rosemarydudley9954]

Shan maree Walker ... Those little "life rafts" are well equipped with food and water. Also flares etc.. I'm not sure for how long these materials are meant to last.

[@Wtz-jx3wh]

Lmao, if he did kill his mom for the money that means he planned this….I’m sure he was well aware of how to stay alive….prob shot his mom fucked the boat up to sink and had a stay-alive-bag that he sunk when he saw someone was coming to get him( binoculars-food-water- sat phone- who knows what else) he didn’t/ doesn’t want to die or be broke

[@MariaBKBK]

Someone should've checked the remains of food on his teeth, if scientists can figure out what cavemen ate from fossilized remains they surely can figure out what an alive man ate the past week

[@davidfalensbirth2031]

Ugh i know!! His condition was SO fine🤤

[@erict9402]

Very well done, this had a lot of twists and turns. Outstanding job on keeping it all straight. ... We look forward to the inheritance dance

[@nothingeasy]

You pump out content like crazy man, congrats on all your success!

[@NannupTiger]

I know right, twice a week and always on time, a very reliable channel creator Some folks start giving us less, the bigger they get, not Mike

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

Wow. People really want to be throwing the word "content" around these days. Is it laziness or an effort to feel cool?

[@aleksandraszejnoga]

@@jumpinjohnnyruss lol and here you are making comment that is literally a bait, wp

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

@@aleksandraszejnoga How could something be a bait without literally being a bait? And what is with this "white power" bs?

[@kimmoran4437]

@@NannupTiger Mike said last week there may only be one video a week from now on. 😞

[@juliestrickland7754]

Almost 1000 comments in am hour. You have come a long way and I think it's incredible. I love to listen to you and my young granddaughters like to mimic the way you talk. It's especially cute when the 3 yr old does it. Good job as always! We think you are exceptional.(6yr olds words)

[@KarenQJ1]

LOL... I couldn't help but laugh when Mikey said the Mistress, 62 years YOUNGER than the grandpa, "earned" her the money if she did him in....

[@WeAreTheSHWE]

Listening to him in interviews makes me chuckle, his speech patterns are like mine when I was younger. "It must have been terrifying!" "yes." Also, there is a stereotype that people on the spectrum cannot lie/have trouble lying. That definitely isn't true. Because a lot of them rehearse their responses to potential conversations in their head, some get very good at it, and have no trouble with sticking to a story. Having a monotone voice and not making direct eye contact also throws off a lot of people's radars. They'll assume that person is shy/timid and often drop their guard. Having deficiencies in empathy can also lead to pathological lying if it is logical in their head. Just because people with autism are logic-based, does not mean they are infallible or cannot lie.

[@no_peace]

Those things, like monotone voice and different eye contact (stereotypes, not diagnostic criteria) are usually used against us. If we get away with lying it's because of ableism, because people think we aren't competent or all there

[@asalindstrom6652]

Thank you.

[@diane2948]

Wow, who knew? I just thought that they were pretty innocent and yes didn't they lied much! It totally makes sense, I wonder about being serial killers? I know I'm so warped but so is Mike! See what I did there😉

[@tabithaspiers1527]

This is so true, thanks for mentioning it! I'm autistic myself and am actually a pretty good liar and actor.. I spend so much time watching non autistic people that I'm pretty good at copying. A lot of autistic people also spend so much time hiding their autism (or masking), that we're already very good at and used to lying constantly without even realizing. I lie A LOT lol!

[@haleyguthrie3113]

So, odd question. How did you get your speech better?