The Bizarre Jenny Jones Case - Secret Crush Revealed Goes Wrong | Mystery & Makeup | Bailey Sarian

[@lizh7736]

All he had to do was say "no thanks", didnt have to shoot the guy.

[@caseymills2688]

Right!?!? You would think. Crazy

[@KingOfGaymes]

Homophobes can never just walk away Gotta hurt you somehow

[@mlapsevertgo]

Homophobe or he actually felt something for him and it freaked him out lol

[@tanyatigermarshall7878]

He also was teased a lot about it after the show aired....so that could have been a driving factor

[@paolitna28]

Liz H He got so Embarrassed. His Father said he felt HuMiliated

[@morganafae5633]

If he was so "frightened" why did he drive to Scott's house to shoot him. He was in no immediate danger, Jon sought Scott out, drove to Scott's house, but its self defense basically? How does that make sense?

[@tiphanyb1988]

Right why not move away!??

[@jessicamiller5624]

It doesn't make sense

[@neohermitess420]

Defense of the self in a sociological context, not a physical one I reckon

[@laurenmchale3621]

Not everything makes sense. I suppose it makes sense for Scott to leave a sexually charged note at John's home when he knew John was not interested .

[@audreyloomis526]

@@tiphanyb1988 or just stay away if he felt threatened???? There’s lots of things they could have done

[@Anya-nu3fj]

This lowkey makes me mad tho, Scott had literally no reason to die

[@RodeoHoot]

I know. He deserved a long wonderful life, so why is John able to just be out living his now????? :(

[@kbella369]

Anya 100% agree! So very sad! 😢

[@DanceLikeANitwit]

why is it lowkey

[@Livingdeadgrl1967]

@@DanceLikeANitwit they said it makes them "lowkey" mad. Not that it was lowkey.

[@emerie.randall]

Ik Scott just had a simple crush on Jon, and Jon could've just ignored the crush if he's homophobic

[@levytate2450]

I wonder if there is a "weird guy panic" defense that women could use when lashing out against dangerous men in self defense

[@catladyjai1113]

Exactly

[@BELLA-lt2ws]

There is its called being a woman calling self defense 🙄

[@Jenahh-aye]

Right if a man hits on us twice can we shoot them or is that just a fragile prejudice dude defense ?

[@rumblefish9]

Yeah, its called self defense

[@parisjones2265]

@@BELLA-lt2ws see how well that stand your ground law holds up for women (particularly in the south)

[@TM-to1wb]

i have a theory, the producers and everyone in the show said it was a “real connection” between them two. What if when Scott revealed his feelings, John realized that he may feel some type of way back. He probably felt embarrassed or humiliated that he even felt like that (different time). He got so angered that Scott made him realize that, that he took it out on him. I don’t know just a theory🤨🤔

[@BloodyGlitter3]

I agree‚ It makes so much sense!

[@jenniferwilliams5470]

I thought the same thing. His "fearfullness' was probably his own closeted feelings.

[@nadiananette6430]

I thought the same thing!!! Or maybe it stirred some sort of emotions in him he didn't like so he took it out on the person who started it.

[@fgraham8712]

There is a thin line between love and hate though.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@breannmoore7666]

I REALLY feel like this is SO possible

[@tvgoatmedia888]

Can we stop and talk about how sad it is that he set this whole thing up to confess his feelings to his crush, just for him to shoot him?

[@ChocolateThunda1345]

That's so messed up

[@Marqkus]

Yeah ikr? I cried.

[@imanlabonowski]

shoot your shot... am i right?

[@annabellebarnett7391]

@@imanlabonowski I-

[@chloe.d6615]

@@imanlabonowski I shouldn't be laughing... But I am😂

[@disturbedgwen]

You’re skin is banging lately... you’re glowing

[@tootmysteamboat2887]

She rubs the lotion on its skin... DAILY!

[@legacydouglas2821]

My mom was on the Jenny Jones show!! She was one of the goths who gave their parents Gothic makeovers lol

[@rhiannadickinson3061]

Your mum is now my hero 😂

[@SheWhoWalksWithLucifer]

That's so cool. Is she still goth? That would be iconic af.

[@D8rk_Kitt3n]

Cool story bro

[@SM-xd2xv]

@@D8rk_Kitt3n this sounds so passive aggressive 😀

[@alliciaschmoker2513]

That is one of the best episodes

[@alexiss3585]

Is there a straight-panic defense? Cause the number of times I've been hit on by creepy men....

[@alicefayxxo]

There should be!!

[@christytaylor5554]

In some states, yes.

[@stingrae919]

@@christytaylor5554 what states? I’m pretty sure there’s no such thing as a straight panic defense law.

[@Emily_Hurley]

Que oro: That’s gold!!

[@cynthiav7984]

There SHOULD BE!!!!!

[@drewberriesandcream]

i wish homophobia was taken more seriously in the 90’s because this was deadass a hate crime.

[@yaboy5692]

It still isn’t taken as seriously now because they still allow LGBT people to get killed and the person who does it don’t get sent to jail

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

@@yaboy5692 name an incident where that's happened? I need to know bc I haven't seen it.

[@Butterflier00]

@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 it's mostly the deaths of trans women and trans women of color specifically that get little to no attention and therefore their killers get away with it...

[@connormarsh6286]

@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 the Orlando pulse shooting for starters

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

@@Butterflier00 yea and most of those come from a trans woman who didn't tell someone they were dating and the person gets mad and kills them. Should they die? No but they don't need to hide that about themselves to a potential partner. That's like me marrying a man telling him I can have kids but the whole time my tubes are tied.

[@truneilson]

When a man feels the fear of having another man intrested... 24 hours later he has a gun and kills him. Imagine the fear woman feel when they get unwanted attention from a man.

[@graciew4828]

Right!! But it’s supposedly flattering ... 🙄🙄🙄

[@maridanez]

EXACTLY what I was gonna say

[@Smartassinasundress]

Ya and we would get in even more trouble if we shot a man for making an advance at us. But a man gets 20 yrs because homophobia is so ingrained in our society

[@ali.f26]

RIGHT! Like Jesus I get harassed and embarrassed but I’d never react this way unless my life was in danger

[@evie880]

so many girls have been killed for not liking a man back

[@JASEYRAEk]

But when a man hits on a woman or even harasses her, she can't use hetero panic defense hmm

[@Delsey77]

Ikr smh

[@MonelosArtGallery]

It would have been SO easy to just politely reject him 😤 smh

[@bananawammabama]

And if the producers DID lie then it would make more sense if Jon targeted and killed one of them. NOT saying that's ok... would just make more logical sense but whateva.

[@salenebrom6476]

Montse Quezada but that wouldn’t ‘prove’ his manliness 🤦‍♀️

[@mississippimud7046]

That's what I thought too

[@ashleymorales4295]

I think what made him snap was that it was on TV and he felt pubically humiliated- just to clarify, I DO NOT excuse his actions - he definitely was homophobic by the way he reacted. But i think that the whole tv thing was the thing that caused the reaction, not the whole guy liking him

[@theresamitchell8896]

Trial by Media on Netflix did this story too, and they paint Scott as a guy who wouldn't let it go, constant with the flirting and comments, and things like that.

[@madisonbishop7489]

when you refresh baileys page for 2 minutes straight because you wanna see this week’s episode before your lunch break is over.

[@stacybrenda9409]

In my country its one in the morning and i had to stay up for this

[@madisonbishop7489]

Stacy Brenda dedication!

[@phantogram7609]

@stacy brenda, kinda feel ya, its 11 pm in my country and I know I'll be freaking tired at work tomorrow.. Like every Tuesday, but that's worth it.

[@taylorswiftmidnight]

full of diseases where do you live??

[@LauraLaura-mv4xh]

same it's nighttime here whenever bailey uploads

[@CinziaDuBois]

It's interesting how men become fearful and afraid for their lives when they are subjected to the same "courting" techniques hetero-men use on hetero-women...

[@rxxrcousin]

Hetero-men creep on all women regardless of the women's sexualities.

[@Evarosemurray]

Yes!!!

[@kaileexo]

Period

[@lakelady481]

Say it louder for the ppl in the back 👏

[@SaltySeaWitch3]

Yes!!

[@ElektraJohnson]

nah, Jenny didn't put a gun or hate in that dudes heart or hands. big boy needs to take responsibility for his own awful actions.

[@souppastes5519]

Yeah but they knew they were exploiting and outing a man on television for shock value. I feel like the producers sorta tried to force more homophobic stereotypes by encouraging Scott to “kiss him,” and do all this other stuff.

[@KikiW89]

But they knew tho And that's even bad smh

[@sammiea822]

It’s plain homophobia. I hope the world gets over it one day. Having said that bringing him on tv not knowing his sexuality was a big mistake.

[@mumu4L]

that will never happen because there are people who don't care

[@JaeC567]

I agree!! Straight men are dangerous

[@KatrinaJoy225]

@@JaeC567 Please tell me you're joking. You are no better than anyone who is homophobic with that attitude.

[@sydneyp7867]

Katrina straight men are dangerous period.

[@JaeC567]

@@KatrinaJoy225 not joking 🤭

[@robynhorne5112]

Don’t be sorry for calling John homophobic. He is. End of story.

[@Joy-cf2hs]

Robyn Horne I was just thinking that. The show isn’t responsible for Johns homophobia and how he reacted.

[@ADazzledDazzle]

period

[@tiacuppe6681]

Exactly!

[@cheery-hex]

you don't know that. what if it was some trailer park girl with a weird family who never showered etc and the same thing happened? y'all are speculating based on circumstance alone.

[@randomuser1799]

Exactly!!!

[@sammiea822]

Please do Anita Cobby. Her killers were the first to receive a “never to be released” verdict in Australia.

[@soup6822]

Sammie A wow that sounds really interesting

[@MsButterflysting]

Ah....as a victim, I'm really wishing I saw that verdict!!!! Not Australian though...

[@soph13.h]

This case is very emotionally distressing and is very hard to listen to, so be extremely mindful when researching it.

[@whoiswhat5327]

Sammie A woah

[@moriebam]

@@MsButterflysting I'm sorry something happened to you and I hope you're ok 💚

[@jmjung9]

I don't really think Jenny Jones show is accountable. They had no idea this guy was a psychotic homophobe.

[@enbykenz]

Agreed. Her commentary on this one was honestly so disappointing...

[@minime7375]

But all they had to do was look into John a little bit, see that he was straight and tell him it was a guy who had a crush on him. I bet he would’ve refused to be on the show if he knew his secret admirer was a guy.

[@TheMimmieb]

I agree hundred prosent !

[@SingHosannahSing]

They are supposed to vet their guests and make sure they're mentally stable before coming on a shock show. You're right... they didn't know... but they should have.

[@alicemachadoviana6467]

@@enbykenz me too, poor Jenny, there's literally no way she could know the outcome

[@AriDelgato]

You’re literally the only reason I know what day it is anymore 😂😂 Edit: Thanks for so many likes! I’ve never had that many before! I hope you all have a wonderful day!

[@yourplaylist3411]

Her and school 😂😂😂

[@keykayco.6257]

Lol same😂

[@AriDelgato]

Your Playlist I’m out of school 😂😂 I’m somstantly confused

[@jocy3852]

Honestly after today I forget what day it is

[@BrandiXo]

Same

[@Mangosareunderrated]

*All over a crush? He didn’t even have to date him-*

[@d1n1na7]

I think it was more of the embarrassment he felt to be on tv all because a man liked him.

[@frank_ieros_hair_grease4918]

@settle down Beavis this comment has nothing to do no means no

[@laurieb3703]

@@d1n1na7 and he kept pursuing him with lewd notes at his home after the nationwide public humiliation

[@becky1854]

I wonder if Scott would have still confessed his feelings without the show. Would John have reacted differently if the confession hadn't been public? Or would he have "calmed down" if Scott hadn't left him that note afterwards? Really gets your head spinning. I do not think the show is responsible, unless John was displaying irrational and homophobic behavior on the set, like when they told him the person could be a man. Apart from that, they were clear about the show topic and all parties agreed to it. It's an awful situation to be in, but the show didn't bring them together or force them to do anything.

[@rowilson4646]

I completely agree with your comment I don't believe the show was to blame. Scott called the show and they told John the crush could be male or female

[@SuperRandH]

I agree wholeheartedly, main reason being that I think that Scott for sure would've revealed his feelings whether on the show or not and that John was homophobic enough to still shoot him.

[@iloveyou-sw2bi]

rochita wilson he said if it was a male he didn’t want anything to do with it

[@imwaytoshort]

@@rowilson4646 He said if it was a man he wasn't interested in doing the show though. The producers assured him though he shouldn't worry so he did the show after he was lied to by the producers. He was misled for ratings.

[@greykingofficial]

imwaytoshort was that confirmed ever?

[@ouestlelivre]

What about the friend Donna? Seems like she holds some responsibility here. She was friends with both of them. So if Scott tells her he's interested in her friend John, why didn't she tell Scott that John is straight? She just wanted to be on TV and stir up drama???

[@ASMRKay_]

Lots of assumptions here about someone you’ve never met

[@dontatmeimmoody2895]

Why are we blaming everyone but not placing all accountability the man who literally shot and killed somebody?

[@anurahettiarachchianura1841]

Y'all blaming everyone but the guy who literally killed someone

[@yannsolo5722]

I agree that they should have told him that the crush was a man. I was young when his happened but I remember this story. It’s so tragic.

[@el.anastasioxx00]

You don’t even know me personally but whenever you say that you’re here for us every Monday I really feel that in my heart🥺

[@zeemapaify]

Bailey is seriously one of the best story tellers on KZbin.

[@michaelscott2990]

*is the best* ☺️

[@tori-annmiller5932]

HANDS DOWN!!

[@hevinclark8708]

Um she is THE BESTTT trust that

[@LadyHitchhiker42]

Agreed.

[@nadine8716]

One of my friends is bi and she told me she had a crush on me. I told her I was flattered but I like men. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

[@al3x_foreva]

exactly, im bi and thats the best possible reply to give.

[@REMNANTRising2005]

Why be flattered? I would be insulted ugh! No the correct answer would be you need to get lost quick

[@CruiserWeightNate777]

@@REMNANTRising2005 You and John seem to be on the same boat... If you’re homophobic just say that 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@kanraanimu3621]

@@REMNANTRising2005 I never understood why people would get insulted. I asked out my best friend in highschool and we were together for years. But I know that if she said no we would of just kept being friends. I don't see the point in losing someone just because you disagree with something. No dissing just genuinely wondering why people think this way

[@coreyhand3138]

@@REMNANTRising2005 I guess you’d write off every guy friend who became interested in you the exact same way? Honestly- honey don’t even worry. With your repugnant personality, I doubt it’ll be an issue for you.

[@joan_of_snark]

sorry, I had an episode of straight panic, a straight person looked at me wrong so they're dead now

[@clario5800]

wow soooo funny

[@joan_of_snark]

@@clario5800 aw thanks :')

[@clario5800]

darcsfx Np :)

[@trayceevalen2134]

I hate when people of ANY orientation look at me. Why do so many people seem to have a "staring problem"? I've even had people take pictures/videos of me without permission. I swear...it should be illegal. Sorry, I know I'm off topic. It just truly bothers me.

[@13quizz]

Tray Cee Valen yeah that’s really weird and I do think that it is illegal in some states

[@taf7677]

No one: Not a single soul: No one ever: Bailey and her fans: *shanasha* *shanasha* *Shanashasha* *ShanaSha* Edit thank you guys for 2.5k

[@classicrocklover5615]

It's from an Evis song

[@Sarah-vw1zh]

Shanasha shanasha shanashasha sanasha*

[@ckotcher1]

I hear the Kartrashians do it sometimes on their horrible “reality” show too

[@thelittlemrs]

@@classicrocklover5615 yeah thought I heard Hound Dog there lol

[@classicrocklover5615]

@@thelittlemrs no, it was the opening of Elvis's Aloha from Hawaii concert, I will find the post

[@juliem.1069]

Correct response: "I'm sorry, I'm straight/not interested" Incorrect response: literally everything John did, right down to the absolutely ABSURD "defense" he used

[@DiaryOfALesbianGamer]

Dude yesssss

[@hussahmk5975]

he did say " sorry I'm straight " the reaction was " let me harass him more

[@Crazyjn]

@@hussahmk5975 exactly

[@loraharriman]

Straight but that wasn't heard or enough

[@hayhay3427]

That’s what I am saying

[@nikitabisht945]

If he was uncomfortable he should've said that on the show. The fact that he bought a gun drove to his house JUST because he had a crush on him is disgusting

[@marieknight9385]

I watched that show and he did say that, several times, the guy wouldn’t leave him alone

[@koaruu]

@@marieknight9385 So go to the police? Tell him off? Tf?

[@marieknight9385]

@@koaruu this story is over two decades old and the guy try to get a restraining order but no one believed him, you should really look up the story before you keep commenting

[@8unbelievable8]

@Marie Knight wow Bailey totally left that out. That's important information

[@xXLoveKimXx]

Imagines Bailey being a lawyer: "Sorry dude,I'm out!"😂😂

[@bigmona2741]

Kim Kelly Bailey: Objection! SUSPISH

[@SpookyNugs]

😂

[@dezb8510]

That defense scares me all I can think about is someone hurting my child, using that as a defensive, then I am the one stuck wearing an orange jumpsuit the rest of my life.

[@Bleep831]

Dez B in that case “that homophob killed my kid panic” should uphold in court.

[@Nails_By_Kimberlee]

@Dez B - same.

[@salenebrom6476]

Emilie Walsh 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@sharonvanhine214]

I hear ya!!! me too!!!

[@mechaelalapuaho226]

Girl that would be me too! I do not blame you

[@eilisheglover-smith3913]

The thing that made him so “frightened” and “uncomfortable” that he had to shoot an innocent person, is what most women have to put up with everyday as they go to work or go clubbing with their friends. Then they turn around and say “you could be flattered” 🙄

[@H.P.Blavatsky]

I remember being a 14 year old girl living in a child care institution. I came back to the unit upset,crying & told a worker I was just grabbed & groped by a man at the bus stop. And, yeah, his response was to furrow his brow at me & say ‘aren’t you at least a little bit flattered?’

[@Javii1]

@@H.P.Blavatsky that's so fkn sick. I'm so so sorry that happened to you

[@shaniaatkinson450]

@@H.P.Blavatsky I'm so sorry you went through that. Thay type of stuff sticks with you forever and the comments they make saying we "should be flattered." This world is disgusting sometimes. I hope you're okay now ❤

[@eilisheglover-smith3913]

@@AlBundyy literally is but that’s for your sharing your insight 🤗

[@shakeyraware1563]

@@H.P.Blavatsky im sorry sweetie

[@LaLagunz187]

That poor guy had no reason to die. He didn’t deserve that at all. So sad 😞

[@katieg8509]

I find it crazy how Bailey’s channel has grown! Only posted for 2 hours and already has 67K views!!! So happy for you :)

[@LuxMeow]

@@BaileySarian Not surprising, you're charismatic and interesting to watch. Fun vids!

[@mossymochii6926]

The Jenny Jones show isn't responsible for John's homophobia

[@jmullerthym]

She is not responsible for homophobia but they were very ambiguous about the gender of the crush. In a documentary about this they pointed out the fact that he said if it was a man he didn't want to do the show. Not excusing what he did but he was sandbagged for ratings.

[@helenarce8064]

@@BaileySarian exactly! But they didn't because the shock value and the response from John was the money shot. I actually believe they were disappointed by him acting cool about it. Flipping chairs and audible gasps from the audience are their bread and butter.

[@mariasimon273]

@@BaileySarian couldn't have said it better.

[@sushiojo3888]

💀💀💀

[@sunnybunnysky]

@@BaileySarian Obviously it wouldn't have happened without the show. Lots of things would never happen without the circumstances that reality creates. It doesn't make the show responsible and it doesn't make what he did any less of his own responsibility.

[@arleyanela]

I’m never getting over this hair color on you

[@crystallite1234]

The fact John is free and could live his life freely now is just cold

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

I hope Frank Amedure finds him

[@thekendrashow]

@@thousandyardgavri2785if he’s still alive. Hopefully.

[@StayAtHomeMeme]

The fact that that is a legal defense makes it seem like it’s a legitimate reason to hurt someone. In my opinion that defense should be phased out because it perpetuates the idea that there’s something to be scared of.

[@English3Muffin]

It is also a literal get-out-of-jail card for anyone intentionally committing a hate crime. That defense is there for homophobes wanting to commit hate crimes. Period.

[@angellinares7163]

I’m reallllly loving this hair

[@lissersc]

Is it a wig? Need✋

[@haleyb.1341]

@lissersc no it’s her real hair

[@nitaruf]

this made me really sad :( it was homophobia. tho the show didn’t make him do what he did I think they should have told him straight up that the person was a guy. but it’s like, did they think that would happen? especially since he acted cool on tape? just like Bailey said, it was their job to make sure he was stable & okay with it. idk what to think but someone lost their life just because of their sexuality and that makes my heart feel so heavy 😭🥺 thanks for covering this, Bailey! always enjoy tuning into these videos! really makes me think about the cases in a different light!

[@proudtiger2538]

"just tell them how you feel, the worst they can say is no" john:

[@Rachel-fi4sc]

Yup. In the words of my mother: If a guy asks a guy out, the expected worst-case is she laughs at him or acts disgusted. If a guy asks a guy out, the expected worst-case is violent death. Someone you have feelings for being disgusted with you is not fun, but it's still a lot better than the alternative."

[@NormaWills]

One thing that gets me is that Jon's friend Donna was in on it. She would have known that he would have been uncomfortable with something like that. So she is also partially responsible for pushing Scott to go on the show to do this.

[@carynllee]

I am a legal assistant to a contract criminal defense attorney. We are appointed the cases where the Defendant can’t afford an attorney. And you are absolutely right sometimes I just want to tell them “You’re on your own.” 🤣

[@sherrykhelawan3047]

Here I am again... I just wanna say that when u say “I’m here for you every Monday.”, it really does make me feel better and I’m sure it does the same for others as well. I’ve been having a tough time at home lately & I cried when you said it this time 😅 Thanks for being here for us every Monday (and Saturday), Bailey ❤️

[@moriebam]

are you better now?

[@laural7041]

Sending you love Sherry! 💚

[@mollykaye8949]

stay strong lovey things will get better

[@SlothDaan]

I just love how she ask how are you, and then pause a little, so you have time to answer.. makes it feel like you are having a conversation 😊

[@Borderlines]

Just a note: thyroid disease can affect mood, that's why psychiatrists would always have their patients tested first to rule it out when diagnosing people with depression/anxiety

[@sallymanning4153]

I never understood homophobia. Why are you so ‘frightened’ over someone’s sexuality?

[@sedachurchill]

Because they are attracted to men but aren’t in that stage to admit it, even to there self. That’s why they try aggressively to cover it up

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

It isn't fear they just don't like them. Phobia is an irrational fear but most people don't actually fear them they just don't agree or like them.

[@sedachurchill]

don't discriminate hate everyone equally you’re not specific. You need a motive if you don’t like or don’t agree it is a neutral state but if you are aggressively against.. than there is a problem..

[@lordakira5977]

@@chinadollsyndrome He bought a gun, drove to the guy's house, shot him twice in the chest, to protect himself?

[@vessela7484]

Because you're frightened of your own?

[@dawn2daylightmadness]

As someone who is in the military, it really creeps me out that many of these murderers once served. Like it’s so common for people to walk around on post at night and leave their doors open and give strangers rides just cause they serve. But at the end they are still people who are capable of the unimaginable

[@AuntMimi-]

I've noticed this too, and (as an army wife) when you are away from your families, you make a surrogate family, and you support and depend on these other men and women around you. In some cases (most) you are trusting your life or loved one's life to these men and women. You want to see the best in them all. And that's why I think it makes my head spin.

[@Emily_Hurley]

Post being where you are serving at?

[@annamariecox2680]

I’m an Army wife and we are at Hood right now and let me tell you ... I don’t trust none of these people (civilians and Service members)

[@Kittysniffles888]

Everyone is always someone on KZbin. 🙄 (

[@shatoribarrett1974]

My mama was on Jenny Jones saying she wanna be a stripper 💀

[@rosiegirl756]

What an icon

[@crustaybones6429]

I-

[@jennylovesjoe1224]

Con...gratulations...I guess?? 😬

[@jenniferrogowski67]

Did she become one?

[@aailas]

Which episode

[@jacqueortiz3828]

I remember that case. I saw the clips, Jenny Jones and everyone there were all laughing and encouraging the two to kiss on stage even though he was clearly uncomfortable. Jenny treated the whole thing like it was this giant joke. Then the guy continued to pursue him after the show.. She and her producers should be held responsible.

[@suelancaster6959]

Those shows were pure exploration. I don't believe for an instance they warned the nut job it could be a male that liked him. They WANTED a reaction for the audience they just didn't expect it to go that far.

[@kalezuki9231]

I think you mean exploitation but yeah the thing I hate about these shows / people who support them and such... is they don't want to take responsibility or pay people , and so on...when / if things go south....and this escalated so quickly ....went south big time ...fast

[@Emily_Hurley]

With you 100! 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@outlawzz9255]

@@kalezuki9231 *etc *etc

[@rossmarie1866]

i’m glad i live in california so no one here can get away with that. it’s straight out, clear as day homophobia and a hate crime. it kinda frustrates me how they didn’t rule it out for what it was.

[@cheery-hex]

hate crimes don't exist. At least they shouldn't. dead is dead.

[@taliyahsade]

@@cheery-hex hate crimes do exist. Racism, Homophobia, Xenophobia and more can cause hate crimes.

[@sidereus95]

@@cheery-hex Yeah, why should we separate crimes based on intent? It's not like the motive carries any weight as to how a criminal act is defined, or anything.

[@tamsynsaige7626]

He didn’t get away with it tho

[@taylorwallace7778]

My mom actually was there for the taping of this episode and every time this case comes up she says she VIVIDLY remembers John saying “ as long as it’s not a guy “.

[@rxxrcousin]

I think Jenny Jones were less responsible (as in letting John know it COULD be a guy and not putting pressure on the contestants) then they let on. John of course is directly and 100% responsible, but Jenny Jones seems like they were negligent.

[@debigates3033]

Yup, I remember that too.

[@dustin628]

Yeah but if it was during taping that means he's already there right? Its way too late at that point! The producers should have asked him, or listened to him way before hand when he said that and then told Scott sorry bud he isn't comfortable with it being a man so we can't have you on the show.

[@tatertot9118]

I remember on the video when they reveal who It is, John says “oh you lied to me” so I think that’s what he was referring to.

[@renettegordley3493]

Wow then they should of stopped it right then & there.

[@cascharles3838]

"John is out now" considering the context this took me a long time to understand

[@belindagoodwin9279]

You mean out as in (OF THE CLOSET!?), or prision?

[@belindagoodwin9279]

Do you mean out as (OUT OF THE CLOSET?!), or out of prison?

[@debigates3033]

He was released from prison in 2017.

[@belindagoodwin9279]

@@debigates3033 thank you for clarification 💜

[@belindagoodwin9279]

@@debigates3033 That really creeps me out!!!! 😬😬!!!! I need to 🙏 🙏

[@amberspade15]

i am still on my bailey binge😆💗 commenting on all the videos i’ve watched back to back within the past few days😁

[@motelapathy9520]

the fact that this happened only 20 years ago, homophobia is so alive and well. love is love

[@allisonelizabeth6596]

Happy Pride Month!

[@coreylevine8095]

Not with this man

[@lynnsundrop]

😂

[@sarahd3744]

Remember when Maury Povich had the episodes where you had to guess if the “beautiful women” were natural born male or female?? They wouldn’t dare air that today.

[@gothamcat]

Sarah D most of those shows would never survive this era 😂 esp Jerry Springer and Jenny Jones

[@Rebeccasrealityy]

@@gothamcat Jerry Springer is still on and as transphobic as ever. It airs every day twice a day on one of my local channels and my mom watches it.

[@moriebam]

@@Rebeccasrealityy are those old episodes or are they still doing the show?

[@fhuuraliulfr5756]

@@moriebam Jerry Springer ended in 2018

[@ijustdontcareanymore1022]

Lol heck yeah

[@madelynnperez9579]

my favorite part of my Monday’s hands down.

[@melissac4437]

Just wanted to let you know that I genuinely LOVE that you give such a detailed back story & history of each person. It’s very interesting and highlights a lot of issues/details that weren’t known before. Keep up the amazing work!!!!

[@hiitsjasper]

I WAS SINGING YOUR THEME SONG WHEN THIS POPPED UP

[@grazynka_98]

CJ SUSPISH

[@jadeuzufanclub]

It’s from the simple life, but yes

[@ashg4045]

@@jadeuzufanclub it's actually from Family Feud like 1988

[@therhythmictale5574]

You summoned her 😂

[@deceasedblujay]

shanasha shanasha shana shasha shana shaaaaaaa

[@callmekeir4858]

Bailey in black lipstick is everything, let’s be honest! That face at the end of the video 👌🏼 Stunning, truly. 🥰🥰

[@elkeinath]

I have a chronic thyroid condition and depression, yet I’ve never shot anyone 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@OzmaOfOzz]

I'm so sorry, I know what both are like. Feel better soon!

[@accioanna]

Not yet anyway.. jk hi I hope you feel better 💜

[@melaniemagolan2241]

Samesies!

[@C00tiequeen714]

Same

[@erinstanger416]

I also have a thyroid condition that includes anxiety and depression, and I’ve never shot anyone before.

[@iriavedder5542]

Here in Spain the talk shows were huge. In 1997, Ana Orantes went to a talk show to explain all the violence she has suffer from her husband for 40 years of marriage. 15 days later, the husband set her on fire. This crime made people realize the big problem machism was (and is) in my country. It was a cataclysm. I still remember how the lady who run the show crying

[@cayleighmadison6715]

Also, would he have killed Scott if Scott revealed his crush in private and not on national television?

[@starshine311]

No,I don't think so

[@cayleighmadison6715]

Debbie Perez I agree! That’s why I think the show is partially responsible.

[@MsButterflysting]

It's possible, due to the sheer number of states this defense is still legally used in, as well as the amount of cases that have been filed as such. My mind goes to the sheer number of possible teen type situations where this occurs & it upsets me.

[@MsButterflysting]

@@cayleighmadison6715 in light of the fact that hers & others were doing this for shock value ratings, despite saying "well they agreed," however, is it in writing? Did they actually agree?

[@loganmorningstar9122]

I don't think he would have, tbh.

[@beautysfnm]

I can’t believe people are saying he isn’t homophobic, like whatt? What is he then? That’s just dumb

[@BishopWalters12]

He wasn't.

[@nail3dbylex]

@@BishopWalters12 how so?

[@BishopWalters12]

@@nail3dbylex Start using common sense.

[@nail3dbylex]

@@BishopWalters12 you can do better than that, sweetie 💕💕

[@BishopWalters12]

@@nail3dbylex Try harder.

[@adareliezer4732]

bailey: does all makeup on camera and says she’s getting ready later in vid: sorry if i’m whispering it’s kinda late

[@camvin575]

@@BaileySarian I always wonder what you do after you have done your makeup? I used to do my makeup on a night just to try out different styles 😂😂.

[@destineywashington2675]

This was 100% a premeditated hate crime he should definitely have spent his life in jail

[@kimberlyelliott7933]

💯💯💯

[@kimberlyelliott7933]

Jail for LIFE

[@hazel4379]

there’s a girl who liked me a few years ago and i was so flattered... like this girl was so so pretty and liked ME?!? there’s so many other girls how are prettier and she liked me🥺 i don’t get how people could be mad

[@whitecatblackcat7551]

It's a guy thing...

[@jennellrobinson1264]

White Cat Black Cat so homophobia is all of a sudden a “guy thing”..? Please enlighten me on how tf that makes sense

[@GreatBooker]

White Cat Black Cat as a bi woman, trust me, being angry at someone of the same gender being interested is NOT a guy thing... speaking from firsthand experience.

[@Randomaccount10101]

@@whitecatblackcat7551 not just a “guy thing”

[@kellypierce7848]

I think its actually a personal preference. Just cause it works or is ok for U it doesn't mean it applies to everyone. I mean I would be flattered too but that doesn't mean someone else should be

[@katy_pull]

I’m here and I’m ready and I’m excited and I’m right on time wow

[@sarasales4406]

I just woke up, but I am here!!!

[@katy_pull]

Sara Sales that’s what matters

[@kylapull281]

Katy Pull you made it

[@lizf8392]

He actually wA like "if it's a man I don't want to come on" and they said no don't worry. I actually just watched this documentary on messed up talk show things and messed up stuff they did.

[@alyssa5648]

How is that relevant though. He's still homophobic

[@korikayleen9818]

what documentary?

[@MsButterflysting]

@@BaileySarian I kept wondering if it was in writing? If so, that's the *only way* Warner Bros got out of the civil suit & being held accountable. They *knew exactly what they were doing.*

[@venuss2000]

@@BaileySarian I believe it was done by *HBO, titled "Talked to Death."* I believe that's the name. Thank you Bailey for caring about getting it right. A correction would be appreciated after you further research the topic. Have a great Monday. Edit: yes, the title is *Talked to Death.* This case is the last one referenced in the Documentary (about the last 20mins). It's available on KZbin also.

[@diamondheaven2441]

go away it’s relevant because he told them he didn’t want to come on if it was a man and they still did it...

[@noahdrew3317]

i feel so fricking bad for Scott :( RIP Scott

[@monlo2008]

Bailey is a queen and I refuse to believe other wise

[@photoboyjet]

I heard that after this happened, Jenny Jones, Jerry Springer and the rest of these type shows quit doing real "gotcha" episodes and resorted to staging their setups with actors. This was especially noticeable on later episodes of Jerry Springer. Many of the "guests" are recognizable as bit players and character actors from television and movies.

[@theresamitchell8896]

My now husband was friends with a guy back in the day that wanted to see how hard it was to get on Jerry Springer. ...So he did it. He, and his girlfriend, and I think the girlfriends sister, were in some sort of (completely made up) love triangle. They were going onto the show so one of them could "confess". All lies. Happily broadcast on TV.

[@christytaylor5554]

@@theresamitchell8896 yup! There were a gaggle of strippers on Jerry Springer back in the early 2000's that invented some insane love octagon and they were all paid for it, lol.

[@Nintendosa]

Yes! Jerry Springer and even Maury would pay them $900 for their “acting” scenario and put them up in a cheap hotel until the day of airing.

[@erinlynn115]

This is fact. Several.. SEVERAL (and I'm not that popular 😉) people I know have been on it, pretending to play parts. One was "in love with his girlfriend's dog".. yeah..

[@Emily_Hurley]

What is a bit player..

[@cadencejenkins4823]

Got off of school and literally said “Where’s baileeeeey!!!” And then there’s a video posted 5 min ago like wow prayers have been answered!

[@brodie-tzu4753]

Ok they keep saying it didn’t air but I remember watching this. She played it for Valentine’s day and I remember thinking how cool he was with everything especially considering how extra Jenny was.

[@kelleydays3907]

I think the episode was not released until an investigation was done.

[@laurieb3703]

@@kelleydays3907 I can't believe they would even air that considering the victims family

[@OGMizSassy]

Love it that they donate to the real cold cases

[@dragonflybtchbauer7655]

To me Jenny Jones is ZERO to blame as she has NO contact with guests til they are there. She only knows what producers tell her

[@noaht124]

She’s the face tho. Just like with Ellen. It’s their names ans faces attached to it all. Or like Melissa McCarthy with that charity event she was the face of. She’s not the one who chose the recipients of the funding, but when someone did some digging and found out one of the recipients ceo previously made anti-lgbt remarks. She had nothing to do with the decision to include them but she caught the flack for it.

[@mandyjuelz]

*over 800 people and children were WOUNDED (my bad)

[@kathy.fuller]

I agree. I don’t think she should be held responsible. It’s the blame others mentality that’s so prevalent in today’s society. You have to blame the person who shot him. Not the talk show host.

[@photographashes]

@@kathy.fuller completely agree

[@laniejester]

The only one at fault is the guy who killed Scott. That was his CHOICE to do it, he pulled the trigger.

[@terrihernandez6826]

I remember this. So sad that he couldn't just say "sorry bro, I'm not into it" and walk away.

[@angiemd8920]

He did, but the guy kept coming back... two sides to every story 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ricklambert8115]

If they would have been strait up about it with him and said “hey, it’s a man” maybe John would have said no it’s not ok. And maybe Scott would have bottled up his feelings for John and found a better partner instead. I definitely feel like they were unintentionally accountable.

[@cheerfulsatanist]

Oh it's on them alright. My SIL and MIL went on there as an out if control teen and desperate mom scenerio (they *absolutely* were TBH) , and the producers straight up offered them $50-$100 for each screaming match, name calling curse words, attempts at physical fights, and actual physical fights. They incidentally cleaned up as a result. But those producers absolutely Dan flames as needed, which apperently was always.

[@ADazzledDazzle]

Jessie Brader oh wow!!

[@tara_ble1705]

Btw, I have heard the same things about these talk shows. They need action to keep the rating up so it makes sense.

[@agrelic]

no one: bailey: heavy on my NOGGIN

[@why7242]

This boy be like oh I'm scared because he likes boys

[@why7242]

Oh my i bailey hearted it l'm freaking crying

[@Marqkus]

Same I'm terrified

[@TheT74]

Not always. It’s about what other people might think.

[@taniamoreles7467]

I’ve literally been waiting for this all day!

[@sourbees]

The theme song never gets old.

[@Phushprada1]

Oh, I remember this one but like many cases, even though I’ve heard them, NOBODY tells them like Bailey.... I always feel like I’m hearing it for the first time!!! Also, I don’t get as spooked out as I do when Bailey tells them... ❤️❤️❤️ all the way from 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦!

[@Elley_B]

“Scott went out drinking then came home and found a note from Scott.” Took me a second before I realized it was John who went out drinking

[@Diamond92189]

Right 😂😂😂😂

[@carmengracepuentes7953]

Same!!

[@ciaramiddlestetter1584]

Please don’t come for me when I say this but I originally heard this story on a Shane Dawson video years ago, so it’s really nice to hear the whole story instead of just bits & pieces for shock value 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kaitlynntrusselll5328]

That's where I heard it from too

[@mcvibe5812]

Bailey: "No of course not you fool" Me: *feels attacked*

[@mrs.sparks3363]

They wanted the drama of him being upset. They should be held accountable.

[@petuniab.222]

Exactly what I think

[@koaruu]

Upset why?

[@penny4279]

The show knew that John was gonna be surprised, that’s what they wanted... the “shock factor” They just didn’t think it would evolve so much I guess

[@souppastes5519]

This is why I sorta hold them responsible on a general level. Not a personal one as that’s all on John himself. However, Jenny aside, the producers knew and were aiming to exploit that drama a factor. But I do NOT agree with John’s mom blaming the show. John was a homophobe through and through.

[@koaruu]

Surprised why?

[@phoebelucking8431]

Anyone else wanna see a day in the life of when she’s researching cases and filming? No just me...

[@MichaelLovely-mr6oh]

I do!

[@umi.a178]

Right as I thought ‘where’s bailey?’

[@BeaTheBear28]

I'd love to hear you talk about Lizzie Borden and her family

[@brandimhancock]

honeybea didn’t she already..?

[@BeaTheBear28]

@@brandimhancock i don't remember, maybe she has

[@alexisjnea]

Brandi H if she did I’d love to watch so puhleez find the link!

[@elanor8909]

Brandi H i don’t think she did

[@elanor8909]

alexisjnea i don’t think she did :(

[@CJMGalaxy]

Of course this was a hate crime. This is practically the definition of a hate crime. How is it complicated?

[@sakeena9701]

It's so weird seeing people comment that they're watching this on their lunchbreak or something but I'm south Africa and it's 11 pm

[@missabbzie]

It’s 9.30pm UK

[@charrissahuffman9984]

Lol I'm watching this at 1:30 PM Pacific time. It's neat to see what time it is in other parts of the 🌎 world. 💜

[@jennawheeler3828]

11:30 am in Hawaii so I'm another lunchtime Bailey watcher!

[@mikaylawilliams5913]

Go to sleep 😂

[@ellunkana2931]

Yup it’s midnight here in Finland! 😴

[@melanieh525]

All day today I’ve felt “off”, now that I realized I just needed a MM&MMonday video, all is right with the world 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@perfectlyimperfect_8528]

Producers maybe could’ve asked how he’d feel of the crush was a guy... I mean this WAS the 90s after all and the LBGTQ+ community wasn’t even really a thing. I mean it was just rly starting to be more “normal” So they should’ve taken all that into consideration maybe

[@ShaRaeBurr]

Bailey I’m here for you every monday🙌🏼❤️❤️❤️