The Black Throne Of The Drukhari - 40K Theories

[@40KTheories]

So, fun fact, the project file for this video got corrupted and I had to manually stitch the audio back together from over a 1000 individual files measuring 2-3 seconds a pop (if you follow us on Patreon or social media then you know this already). All things considered I think we did a pretty damn good job fixing this, so we hope you enjoy it! Also, I made a slight error regarding the Fabricator General's name. I had it written in my script as Raskia when it's actually _Raskian_ . Whoops.

[@finlay9616]

Holy shite! That's incredibly impressive lads!

[@inthefade]

Ouch! This is why I always make a new project file every time I work on a project, usually with the date appended to the end of the file name in YY/MM/DD format. If it is in the same project folder it shouldn't double all of the files associated with it (depending on the software, I suppose?). Thanks for the hard work.

[@okonkwojones]

You had to do a Gene Hackman in The Conversation? Oof that sounds terrible, I’m so sorry

[@joeavreg2254]

Was it corrupted or were you sent a test by the Omnissiah? All Praise the Machine God who provides us with the Utility of Need and not the Garbage Data of Desire.

[@eddie_bear666]

A fine, price of work. Thank you for your dedication and brining us such great content

[@JGZiggy90]

The attack on Commorragh sounds like a great way to bring Jaghatai Khan back.

[@daroth7127]

Bring him back as Lord Vect's living sofa!

[@DemonicEngineer]

Polymorphine is hard to use against the Eldar, because their speech contains highly detailed and subtle body language that are difficult for humans to notice, let alone mimic.

[@Gormathius]

Give it to a body language expert. I'm told they are very adept at picking up on the subtlest of cues, like the subject appearing to be angry.

[@40KTheories]

Hard to use, but not impossible.

[@davidthomas2870]

I really hope furthering this plotline is how the Khan will eventually return. Perhaps drukari roll out a spare clone as an aproximate equivalent to an avatar of Khane and turn the tide against whatever imperials (or perhaps chaos-abadon and vashtorr might attack them with wyrmwood) forces have managed to attack them directly, only for a white streak to pass and the clone to be cut in half as the kahn screams past on a scrapped together bit or some horrid warped fleshbeast he's stolen.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Drukhari - the legacy of the Aeldari Empire that refused to reform even after watching the creation of Slaanesh by their super happy fun times of maximum overdrive.

[@Historyfrek4ever]

Because drukhari did so well creating a god the first time.

[@veritasome5965]

Question: why didn’t the Imperium ask the Aeldari for help instead? I feel like the argument ‘if the Throne fails, Chaos spreads everywhere & both our races will be dead or worse’ would be sufficient motivation for the Aeldari to at least work the problem in relatively good faith. Furthermore, why haven’t they discussed the possibility of Aeldari help in trying to permanently seal the Webway gate in the Imperial Dungeons? Given its existential threat to the very Imperium as well as to the Emperor Himself, I feel like this should have been a big priority. I mean, if anyone would know how to seal a Webway gate, it would be them.

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

What if...The Emperor has been subtly manipulating the Drukharii into making a Clone of himself, and when they bring it online the Emperor will pilot that Clone to takeover Comorragh and the Webway from within? WebWay Project 2.0 ?

[@Gormathius]

Nobody would have expected the Looted Emperor to be piloted by the Emperor himself.

[@mmyr8ado.360]

​@@Gormathius A soul inhabiting two bodies, where have we heard that before?

[@marrvynswillames4975]

Crowl's comment indicates they don't need a proper clone, only a basic of meat that can trick the Throne into working

[@Epicmonk117]

@@mmyr8ado.360IDK if you’re trying to be serious or sarcastic, but I firmly believe that Alpharius and Omegon share a soul.

[@poodlescone9700]

I think the Custodes need to find that lost forgeword of Morvane and fix the Golden Throne.

[@ExoSquadOffical]

That’s fascinating

[@Robert_Douglass]

Is there such an item as a "forgeword", or did you mean to type "forge world"?

[@tictackywacky9445]

I used to listen to pretty much every video you’d ever made when I was working landscaping! I love that you’re still uploading and making great lore videos. Anchor of the community mate.

[@40KTheories]

Thank you. With luck a new theory video will be going live this coming Monday, so we hope you look forward to that :)

[@dcbluenose1873]

A great series of books. Chris Wraight is definitely one of the better BL authors right now.

[@j.mangum7652]

Should a Drukari hit and run team even manage to get by all the outer and inner defences of Terra, successfully run the Custodes around in circles to get into the inner sanctum of the throne room I doubt big E himself will take it lying down. A thought from the Emperor: [delete rape happy knife ears]

[@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420]

0:42 Said exactly the way you would call a small dog. "Horus!?"

[@40KTheories]

Okay that made me laugh xD

[@MaticustheRed]

Now I can't unhear that.

[@Ilikefinalfantasy795]

salamanders "you think we are trapped in here with you, brothers grab the promethium."

[@visitingforgefather5997]

Vect " Oh that's precious. They think they are in control of the situation."

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

Salamanders: We’re going to do it like dad!

[@redhood1060]

Genuinely one of my favourite trilogy. It was so much fun to read and I loved the mystery element. The ending genuinely left in shock.

[@40KTheories]

Poor Gorgias though.

[@Zuemmel]

Good to see you back Rem! Besides your podcast that is

[@40KTheories]

Thank you! Be sure to check out our High Lords and Cypher videos if you haven't had a chance yet :D

[@Matt-md5yt]

Dark Eldari are a crazy bunch. Glad you talked about this thing my friend

[@OmegaLittleBob]

18:40 Dorn: “I AM REINSTALLING THE PALACE!!!”

[@devnull1200]

Good to have you back, buddy!

[@brandonaughtman9091]

Even if they created a clone of The Emperor, I am sure the moment that it could think it would try and destroy as much of the Dark City as it could before fleeing. As for the attack of it of itself, the sheer movement of such a vast army could cause more cracks in the Webway and might let more daemons. I say let the Ordo Xenos lure in a large host of Orks with a tracker on them, allow them to know where they are going and then follow to the city.

[@Chumblefunk]

It's hilarious to think that you could end most civilizations in the setting by handing out flyers to a bunch of Orks inviting them to crash some house parties.

[@Gormathius]

Tiers of world annihilation: 3) Sustained nuclear bombardment 2) Virus bombs 1) ORKZ! ORKZ! ORKZ! ORKZ! ORKZ! ORKZ!

[@inthefade]

I wonder how Drukhari feel about Orks? Are they even any fun to play with? They'd be good for the fighting pits at least, right?

[@Gormathius]

@@inthefade Between the facts they're too dumb to psychologically torment and barely feel any physical pain, the only value they could possibly derive from orks is as moving targets that fight back.

[@Yandarval]

If the small team is sent to destroy the Black Throne. The Legion of the Damned showing up help would be an interesting story. Just a few of the strike team left and the Damned appear to hold off the hordes to allow the team to finish their task.

[@j.bat.8235]

Have to say, the most surprising part of the theory is the fact that Drukhari dealings only *sometimes* end with physical backstabs

[@vecghul2793]

I mean, if they always did, then they could never get anything done.

[@inductivegrunt94]

The Drukarii building their own Golden Throne, the Black Throne, doesn't surprise me. They did call it something along the lines of "The greatest torture device ever conceived." And using to hold back the daemonic tides would be smart of them considering their situation involving such constant invasions of Commoragh. I certainly would like to see an assualt on Commoragh, small strike, full-on crusade, or both. It might even allow for the Khan to return as he comes back and bolsters the morale of the Imperial forces as he takes command and leads the Imperium to victory. That would shake the setting and lead to a crippling of the Drukarii, though it does come with the risk of retaliation like you mentioned in the video. Maybe having the Imperium be blissfully unaware of all this is the best choice to keep the stability of both the Imperium and Commoragh.

[@michaelo5665]

A shattering of Commoragh would be an awesome storyline possibly leaving the imperium with multiple enemy factions out for blood where there was just one opportunistic one.

[@Audiotrocious]

Dark Eldar trilogy mentions the invasions by Demons and Chaos Space Marines. The Vaults of Terra book trilogy (and there is a short as well involving an interrogation) was interesting as it confirmed many theories. Also had the best servoskull 😁 Remember, the Dark Eldar also wanted classical music of Bach in exchange (as well as human worlds left unguarded for raiding).

[@mrsamaritan6881]

I think the Harlequin invasion make a Dark Eldar invasion LESS like to succeed. Beforehand, the Custodoes thought the Imperial Palace safe from invasion by use of the Webway. Now they KNOW that's not the case and doubtless have taken steps about it.

[@Yandarval]

The Luna gate better be stupidly well defended these days. But, its 40k, so it wont be.

[@DaveeBoy]

this is a good one, thank you for the quality content :)

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

All this could be avoided if the Mechanicus simply allowed research into Tech Advancement.

[@samualwatkins]

What would an emperor clone even be like? Would it have consciousness, self awareness or just be a husk of a conduit for power?

[@40KTheories]

I imagine something very Cronenbergian, at the very least.

[@gothpunkboy89]

@@40KTheories Now I'm just picturing a couple of homunclus debating if it is more aesthetically pleasing to give it 3 eyes in a equilateral or acute triangle shape. And if the sucker mouth or tube mouth would be easier to feed them with.

[@michaelo5665]

I've been waiting for your take on this. Id like to add my pet theory here what if the creature made for the dark throne is connected to the dark king prophecy

[@keith.vukasinovich]

Given that the golden throne is probably based on ancient Aeldari technology anyway there’s little point in going to destroy the black throne because the Drukhari would just build another one. The best case scenario is to go and steal parts from it to repair the golden throne.

[@platexproductions]

Video idea: piece together the lore for Shas’o Kais the Living Weapon into a timeline, maybe some speculation as to whether the player character in Fire Warrior is the same character. P.S. it would seem that Kais from Dark Crusade IS the Living Weapon, as it would fit with his characterisation in the game as following Monat, the Lone Hunter, forming the Puretide triumvirate with O’shaserra and O’shovah. It’s an obvious future codex expansion for GW with Mont’ka and Kauyon. He’s also very popular with fans. Do the Ethereals consider him a threat?

[@VierAlder]

Very interesting, would it be possible to request a video on the possibility of making a clone of the Emperor? Would it even be possible? Would the Archenemy even set aside the Great Game to rectify this scenario? One Anathema is too many, to have more? Im sure they would agree, to either have it destroyed or worse, to claim it. However, if the throne requires psychers to fuel it. What better 'fuel' than a assembly line of clones? Radical? Absolutely. Possible?

[@QuinchGaming]

I dunno man, but all these sound like AWESOME tabletop scenarios!

[@matthewlamont3112]

Given how big Raskian is meant to be, I think the Luna gate is big enough for a pretty reasonable force with vehicles.

[@volk551]

I think creating a clone of the emperor would result in chaos, attacking dark eldar even more. Because now there is two of them 1 is a pain in the ass all ready but now it's two, also what would prevent the emperor from just transferring himself into this new body, & wrecking house?

[@bobdrooples]

Bequin well find the skull in Pandemonium. King in Yellow tie in.

[@Romuls753]

One thing that you forgot to mention about Polymorphine is that it can even make some users transform into Genestealers

[@40KTheories]

Bear in mind that Polymorphine only allows users to mimic Genestealers if the user has additional implants grafted within them (source: Harlequin).

[@docthefaust4519]

Others besides M'shen could do it?

[@40KTheories]

Meh'lindi needed to have implants grafted into her body to allow her to mimic a genestealer, but this resulted in her being unable to take any other form with Polymorphine. She ended up needing to have the implants surgically removed in order to allow her body to take the form of an Aeldari.

[@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420]

@@40KTheories this is assuming Ian "goblin man" Watson's efforts are considered close to canon. Which then means an imperial fist had a...sensuous time thinking about his primarch.

[@40KTheories]

@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 Remember that only his novel Space Marine was declared explicitly to be non-canon. The Inquisition War trilogy (which underwent extensive edits and even had new bits added to it to better conform with the modern setting) is still very much canon. After all, the Mother Gullet story - which originated in Inquisitor/Draco, is still brought up by GW whenever Callidus Assassins are mentioned (and Jaq Draco himself got name-dropped in the most recent Kal Jericho novel).

[@pitchforksdragon1252]

About a minute in. The golden throne doesn't serve as the emperor's life support system. Drastically the opposite of that.

[@40KTheories]

"The Throne _will sustain Him, and renew Him_ , and when His wounds are healed, He will rise again, and stand with them." - The End and The Death: Volume 3. "Yet, He is a rotting carcass, the Carrion Lord of the Imperium _held in life by marvels from the Dark Age of Technology_ and the thousand souls sacrificed each day so that His may continue to burn." - the intro to pretty much every 40K book ever. The Throne is a device that paradoxically heals _and_ hurts.

[@andrewbaer2820]

Much like the primarchs the emperor is more than just his genetics. Their souls are critical to their powers so just cloning the emperor wouldn’t necessarily do what the dark eldar need to have done

[@NetMoverSitan]

8:00 - (monotone) All hail Big Papa Ultrasmurf.

[@randomacademypilot]

Thank you.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

They must take a slice of the emperor's cake if they desire to activate the black throne!!!

[@40KTheories]

What kind of cake?

[@jakebarisano3785]

Wow your channel has changed so much.

[@40KTheories]

In what way?

[@jakebarisano3785]

@@40KTheories I was kidding.

[@canis2020]

With Chaos Undivided having 8 points and having 4 main gods confirmed. Vashtor is trying and possibly become a 5th. Who might the other 3? Is the Emperor considered one when he assends? Or is he a god of Order and parallel AOS?

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

There are a few Warp Gods still in play in the Galaxy: Big E, Vashtorr, Isha, Cegorach, Khaine, Ynnead, Tau'Va & maybe Malal. The remaining 4 may come from these.

[@JZ0UK]

Well, the Dark King remains a possibility, who ascends to it is an open question still 😊

[@Salmon_Rush_Die]

I believe the eight pointed star of Chaos is to represent the "eight-fold path" of chaos. I do not believe the star represents eight warp gods.

[@jamiejones7730]

A lightning fast hit and run force forced to defend isn't going to lead to fun times.

[@Paul_Goldman]

They won't be able to create such a being like Emperor even if they clone him. Emperor obtained his power on Molech, walking through warpgate, dealing with chaos gods.

[@coiler3927]

I would end that plot simply by having the throne explode into a warp rift and make the infestation worse. Whether it was rivals, the Imperium, craftworlders, or just "ambition", who knows?

[@drakoloreseeker5112]

Could they not just launch a bunch of externinautus warheads to key parts of Komora including where the black throne is

[@Jorem_K]

I feel Trayzen will somehow get his hands on the clone or on some of the genetic material. It might be intresting if Bile get his hands on that material

[@LazzarrusLong]

06:37 A servo-skull named… what now? Gorgeous? Hmm… at first I thought “well that’s sus as hell” but given it’s a servo-skull, that name is kind of cool. Especially if it’s spelled “Gore-Juss” or something 🙃

[@40KTheories]

Gorgias. I had no idea how else to pronounce it lol.

[@LazzarrusLong]

@@40KTheories Ahhh yes, I see what you mean. That is a tough one, phonetically.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

Instead of invading Commorragh with ground forces, the Imperium could opt to launch a barrage of virus bombs into the city and call it a day.

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

Drukhari... because 40k wasn't horrible enough.

[@kennyleung9909]

Question Was Jaghatai Khan a psyker?

[@williamblack6912]

Every primarch is a psycher to some extend.

[@bliblivion]

17:32 you can not concider the war fo beast conon... there is too many lore inconcistancy in it.

[@LOBricksAndSecrets]

If the webway gate is not big enough to allowed vehicles through, then just bring pieces through and build the armor on the other side

[@bbwizard2941]

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[@TheBlackBladder]

One point that was not addresed was that can Drucary clone Emperor with his anathema type soul, similar how the Biles Horus clone was incoplete.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

It would be funny if they tried to do this raid, and by mistake show up on the area being attacked by the endless waves of daemons

[@johnevans5706]

So apparently the fabricator general of Mars was also in the webway, but has somehow come back and is on Mars, could he be a clone and a sleeper agent ready to steal some of the emperor's genetic material?

[@40KTheories]

I'm fairly certain it's a different Fabricator General on Mars now.

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

Or maybe the same in mind. Raskian could created a contingency in case of death ​@@40KTheories

[@40KTheories]

I vaguely recall Belisarius Cawl mentioning that his mind/personality couldn't be recovered, but I can't remember where I read that so take it with a pinch of salt, for now.

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

@@40KTheories perhaps pre-saved memories. Almost like Fabulous Bill

[@jojotheswede8444]

The negotiations were short.

[@40KTheories]

_Gorgias upon emerging from the webway_ "Another happy landing."

[@emperorxander666]

A black throne for the king

[@fyraltari1889]

Couldn't the drukhari use another psyker than a clone of the Emperor? Eldrad or a captured sufficiently powerful sorcerer of Tzeentch, for example.

[@40KTheories]

Considering only the Emperor was shown to be capable of operating the Golden Throne for an extended period of time (with Malcador - the second most powerful human psyker at the time being essentially turned to dust after a few hours), it seems unlikely that any other being (save for perhaps another Alpha Plus tier psyker) would be able to serve the Drukhari's purpose.

[@williamblack6912]

​@@40KTheoriesWasn't Magnus supposed to control the throne indefinetly?

[@40KTheories]

He was, but remember that he also irreparably damaged it trying to warn the Emperor of Horus's betrayal.

[@williamblack6912]

@@40KTheories much like GW world building after their recent Stunt.

[@akumaking1]

Aka, when Games Workshop and Black Library are so creatively bankrupt they stole from a popular web series they cancelled.

[@thomasblunt3404]

send in Jaque Draco

[@tomyorke3412]

Should have brought some of those female custodes. They would of had a woman's intuition after all.

[@sasha1mama]

Xenos - noun. Plural of xeno. "Zee knows", not "zee noss".

[@peterjannen6012]

Jordie?

[@40KTheories]

Nope, I'm not from Newcastle.

[@peterjannen6012]

@@40KTheories Love ya buddy

[@RaimoKangasniemi]

Would a malformed clone at Drukhari hands be such a terrible price to pay? If one leaves aside religion.

[@ZeroNumerous]

"Would a malformed clone of immense psychic power in the hands of the most evil race in the galaxy be such a terrible price to pay?" I dunno, you tell me.

[@RaimoKangasniemi]

@@ZeroNumerous They are a minor player in the overall scene, a more nuisance to the Imperium than threat on the scale of Chaos, the hive fleets or the Necrons. And if they would get a bit more powerful, they would cause more issues for those enemies of the Imperium also. And the Emperor wouldn't die, the Earth wouldn't be destroyed and Imperium wouldn't fall to Chaos.

[@theemissary1313]

Given how GW handled the gender of Custodes, release of the primaris, conclusion of the siege of terra and more, good luck getting a satisfying conclusion to this plot thread...

[@gothpunkboy89]

Custodes and Primaris they released the basics first then filled it in later.

[@Bobtubeau]

The emperor is trans.

[@Erikjust]

I take it that the whole thing about female custodes will not be covered?

[@marmyeater]

cowards

[@imperatorlightoneous1382]

From the beginning of the drukhari there have always been she-hes

[@Richard-cx9bb]

This still doesn't explain female custodians

[@IAmTheDawn]

I think that the Drukhari would be able to quickly counter the imperium. Commoragh is such a warped place that doesn't conform to the level of normality we have in our universe. I think that it would end up being a route of the imperium.