The Bleach Movies Are Weird...

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Izk

Күн бұрын

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@josesuicune27 13 күн бұрын

I dont talk about memories of nobody cause i always end up crying

@IzK724 13 күн бұрын

The end is quite heartbreaking to be fair💔

@sarthakarora3212 Ай бұрын

Movie 1 is cannon btw.

@sarthakarora3212 Ай бұрын

Ok no kind off. Kubo litterly said it's fully cannon when he wrote tybw in the manga.

@IzK724 Ай бұрын

@@sarthakarora3212 I'm pretty sure aspects of it are canon.

@iXSIKOBOIXi Ай бұрын

@IzK724 in the mid chapter in the episode where Yukio and Riruka appeared it said that Ichigo has been to the Valley of Screams before, which canonises the movie

@uraharakisuke1329 Ай бұрын

@@iXSIKOBOIXihow does that cannonize the movie? Kubo himself said "I’d be happy if you could watch the movies as a parallel story rather than considering it part of the official canon."

@Comic.215 Ай бұрын

@uraharakisuke1329That quote wouldn’t particularly make sense, since Ichigo himself said he’d been there in the valley of screams. That statement alone makes the first move cannon, as that’s the only time he could’ve gone to the location even within the story.

@randomdudelol5263 26 күн бұрын

i kinda always felt its a shame they never put more effort into making more cannon content for bleach movies(aside from the 1st one) cuz bleach probably have the most interesting lore compared to most anime, like why not make movies about the great noble families and their relation to soul king in the past, or smth about the downfall of the shiba clan, or smth about the original gotei 13, or maybe even smth more recent like about ginjo's past and his relation to soul society

@salmannazeer2688 26 күн бұрын

Ginjo's past is already explored in the novels

@IzK724 25 күн бұрын

Yeah it sucks but the Bleach movies are definitely relics of the times they were made in. Before we really had much canon movies. If you compare it with Naruto and One Piece, Bleach also got a lot less movies as well. I also think that during the times the films were made we didn't really know much about things like the soul king and original gotei 13 so they were pretty limited with what they could do.

@littlebitsofterror5788 17 күн бұрын

@IzK724A movie on some Rogue Vizards would have been cool

@IzK724 16 күн бұрын

Yeah there's a lot of different things that they could have done

@arghscuffelbut3226 Ай бұрын

The hell movie was some unpolished gold, though. Kubo agrees, I guess.

@fg009letyrds8 Ай бұрын

Unpolished *turd. Kubo hated it so much he literally destroyed any chance of it becoming Canon.

@VENG-k1d Ай бұрын

Nope, Kubo doesn't like the movie, only the Ichigo v Ulquiorra fight

@bmxgu2361 29 күн бұрын

@@VENG-k1d He just didn't want his name attached to it. Doesn't mean he hated it, it's just not what he envisioned.

@ChillDeathgod 29 күн бұрын

@@VENG-k1d In the Hellverse Booklet Kubo said he enjoyed the Film he never said he hated it, That rumor was made up by a bunch of Ichigo X Rukia fans because they hated the fact that Ichigo hugged Orihime in the Film.

@VENG-k1d 28 күн бұрын

@@bmxgu2361 you don't hate everything you don't like. It's the fact that that wasn't his vision for it and he only mentions the Ichigo v Ulquiorra fight when asked the movie he liked.

@lillith7257 Ай бұрын

i think the Hell Verse movie is the only one that isn't that weird. Feels like its almost part of the series.

@psychic-friend-toy-freddy 26 күн бұрын

And hell is cannon within bleach now

@IzK724 25 күн бұрын

I agree it definitely feels really Bleach-y

@IzK724 25 күн бұрын

@psychic-friend-toy-freddy Always has been

@amam-r2p Ай бұрын

bleach is amazing pls make more vids on it

@IzK724 Ай бұрын

I'd love to make a video on TYBW at some point!!

@ska4666 Ай бұрын

@IzK724 ...Atleast they articulated his ideas in Movie 1 even though he wasn't involved, that's probably why Kubo Canonized this movie, ... while Rest movies didn't even involve his ideas. I don't understand, how foolish Studio Pierrot can be, I get that most of Naruto movies suck too, but .... Bleach movies had exceptional prodution quality so.. why not involve Kubo to make it a great Experience all together. 😮‍💨

@IzK724 Ай бұрын

@@ska4666 I imagine this has more to do with scheduling conflicts. The first 3 movies were released in 2006, 2007 and 2008 respectively. Because of this I imagine there wasn't much time for pre-production as 9 months is a pretty average schedule for an anime movie which means that they'd probably try and get it done as quick as possible so they have enough time to make the film look good. This matched with Kubo being a full-time mangaka probably meant that discussing and creating a film would have been very time consuming and difficult for both of the parties who were on strict schedules. And this is probably why none these films didn't have much input from Kubo. Hellverse on the other hand which came out later in 2010 was meant to be based of Kubo's ideas. This is probably because they had a lot more time to actually discuss with him. Unfortunately they didn't go with any of his ideas in the end either because of creative differences or because maybe Kubo's ideas were just too ambitious for the film.

@kaivin88 Ай бұрын

@@ska4666I am pretty sure the "ouken" or Royal Palace key was also in movie 2. Squad zero mentioned that Aizen wants to create his version of ouken. But I think I missed the ouken part in the manga and non filler anime adaptation until TYBW arc.

@ChillDeathgod Ай бұрын

@IzK724 He was still involved with the Hellverse Movie he never said he hated the film, Memories of Nobody had a lot of changes to Kubo said that he originally planned for Senna to be Rukia’s daughter, I think Dimond Dust rebellion was the only film he wasn’t involved in.

@myfredo32 15 күн бұрын

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@IzK724 15 күн бұрын

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@tnuhenaj3752 26 күн бұрын

The filler in bleach in general is weird, not cause of the amount of it but because some of it is really stupid in terms of the decisions they make. The first 2 filler arcs are trash to mid but the villains have their own new powers. The last 2 are great but the villains have identical powers to the soul society. And the powers of the filler villains do suck with a few exceptions which is completely unlike canon. Baiken has no special abilities, kusaka has hyourinmaru, dark rukia is alright and kokuto has no special abilities and the side villains powers are lame too but i won't go into them. And why were there never any fillers with the vizards and arrancars. Grimmjow and ulquiorra are so popular. So dumb Also the animators always lose steam for the final battles in these movies. Compare the final battle in hell verse to the battles near the start. Why are the most important battles the worst animated? This is a common bleach thing too. Happened with ichigo vs aizen. The animation in the first 2 movies was pretty mid in general though there were random anime that were older than it which were better animated than them. No surprise they didn't exactly do great in the box office. Btw every dark one from memories of nobody is named somewhere. Not sure if its in the movie itself or supplementary material but they're all on the wiki if you ever need them for any reason. All i remember is the main guy is baiken, the girl is benin and the black dude is Jai. Kubo hates bleach hell verse btw. Not hates but he wanted his name removed from the credits cause he sat up all night discussing ideas with the director and stuff and then they barely used any of them. You can see something closer to kubo's vision if you read the chapter he wrote which is like a prequel to the movie. They adapted that chapter in episode 299. But since 1 chapter isn't enough for an entire episode they added some random stuff alongside it. And now in the manga kubo is addressing hell. Will probably be very different to the movie. Old anime staff kinda shafted the series a lot with their confusing choices.

@IzK724 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for all the extra info! I do disagree with generalizing the animation of the first two films to be mid when there was definitely some great cuts in the films. Whilst I don't know too much about how anime films are produced I imagine the biggest factors determining the final battles quality is probably due to the staff that was available. Seeing as the longer the films would be in production would mean more resources being taken away from the main series. Also a Bleach Remaster would absolutely go crazy!