This channel is apparently what I've wanted since I was a kid. Real history docs of higher quality than the history channel used to have before it became the ancient aliens channel. Great work, how does it only have 1m subscribers? The quality is amazing. Thanks!
@CelticSaint3 ай бұрын
Ancient Aliens. What a complete and utter travesty that program is. Utter utter rubbish of the highest order. I hate it.
@brettcurtis57106 ай бұрын
Another great effort from Dan Jones! Love both his and the other Dan (Snow) programmes - my go-to on a rainy day (or any day)!
@itsnotash695 ай бұрын
In the UK everyday is a rainy day
@capcompass92985 ай бұрын
@@itsnotash69 ...except for the sunny ones!
@itsnotash695 ай бұрын
@@capcompass9298 what sunny days 🤣
@capcompass92984 ай бұрын
@@itsnotash69 Get your dictionary out!
@xdizzy126 ай бұрын
Earlier this year we, a group of friends, did a tour of these battle locations, including the alternative sites. Great to get some more details and information about the proposed alternative site of Crecy.
@bf30756 ай бұрын
Awesome! I bet that was amazing. Was the tour a caravan led by a guide? If so I’d be interested in getting info on setting up a tour. Would you share?
@xdizzy126 ай бұрын
@@bf3075 It was with Cranenburgh Travel, owned by a friend of mine who is a historian. He organises and hosts historic tours a couple times a year. It's usually in Dutch language (we are Dutch), but given enough demand he could easily do English and German language tours.
@Deadround346 ай бұрын
U so lucky
@bf30756 ай бұрын
@@xdizzy12 thank you so much for the info. I’ll certainly see if more people might be interested in doing this also and if so I’ll look at getting in touch. Appreciate the help.
@paulm30336 ай бұрын
I did the same ,also with friends , visited Crecy and Agincourt, an ambition I've had since I was a boy , it didn't disappoint.
@dperson92126 ай бұрын
Essex Dogs is as good a book that I've read about that era, its superb. The follow up was excellent too. Looking forward to the 3rd installment.
@FreddytheRed6 ай бұрын
Amazing documentary. Love Dan Jones, absolute baller when it comes to medieval history. I'm starting a History degree next year, it's my dream to be able to do something like this as a career. Thanks for the content HistoryHit.
@mmtelz6 ай бұрын
How is this content FREE?!?! Amazing ❤❤❤
@juancana4576 ай бұрын
The pleasure of informing others is very real.
@rickynieves31442 ай бұрын
Don't jinx us 🤫
@patrickbaumgardner27656 ай бұрын
War is brutal, but war with swords, spears, and arrows is freaking insane! Imagine being there, absolutely devastating carnage!
@prometheusr6 ай бұрын
Pure butchery.
@keithad64856 ай бұрын
Seems the only modern comparison are infantry bayonet charges. Gutsy stuff to resist a bayonet charge with that unforgiving steel aimed for your belly.
@bohemian-girl6 ай бұрын
Yes, this is true. If you see the video on the Battle of Towton, apparently there were twenty eight thousand casualties, in a battle fought at close quarter in mud and winter blizzard conditions. ^^
@kimberlypatton2056 ай бұрын
There are some great doc videos here on YT featuring archaeological finds and forensic assessments of mass graves of medieval battlefields . There is one on the Battle of Towton that is excellent.
@bohemian-girl6 ай бұрын
@@kimberlypatton205 Thank you for the hands up I'll look at it when I find some time ^^💕
@djjamestobin6 ай бұрын
Great subject matter, great content, great presenter, great visuals, great sound .. thoroughly enjoyed watching this video! Thanks HistoryHit :)
@gregedmand99396 ай бұрын
Before you begin to feel outrage over the English conducting this kind of warfare in the 100 years war, remember this was standard operating conduct by European armies in this time. Those who were so shocked by Edward's army conduct, had a completely different view of their own French military conduct on campaign. There were few conflicts that were black and white, good vs evil wars like we pretend only exist today. These were Game of Thrones wars... Minus the dragons and the White Walker's. With the poor townsfolk and farmers caught in the middle.
@4362mont6 ай бұрын
You can assume my outrage forms at tge speed of light.
@kerrycooper-dean42436 ай бұрын
I think innocents are still caught up in the crossfire of war today.
@robbieatvic6 ай бұрын
Well said, it's like the brutality of the previous 1000 years didn't exist. Nothing new here. Great show tho really enjoyed it.
@Gloocar6 ай бұрын
Where is the proof that dragons and white walkers didn't exist then?? I don't believe you
@danielwarren85396 ай бұрын
Yeah. Both the English and French were arseholes.
@paulmilsommusic6 ай бұрын
Does Dan Jones make the best medieval vids or what! Thats a rhetorical question...he does. Thoroughly enjoyable Dan. Thank you. From your friend paul
@craftygnome975 ай бұрын
Love these docs, the music is a real pain in the butt though when your trying to go to sleep
@JohnJ-p7oАй бұрын
Great historical documentary once again . Dan Jones is the best .
@elainewilliams89383 ай бұрын
this has been so good to listen too thank you Dan so good
@arg10515 ай бұрын
Never would have looked at this guy on the beach and expected to hear him say, "I've always been fascinated by Edward III's 1346 campaign."
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont4 ай бұрын
The fact that it was an English victory must help.
@garethjones47423 ай бұрын
I'm ex millitary, tattoos and to be honest a bit rough looking. I got my undergrads in history when I got out. I've had most of the best historical discussions with people who don't look like stereotypical history nerds. History is for everyone. That's its delight. You don't need a physics degree to be intensly interested in a place/story/event/epoch as an amateur.
@kevinmcqueenie74206 ай бұрын
Great video! Just a small (pedantic!) point that Edward The Black Prince, would have been known as Edward of Woodstock around the time of the battle. The Black Prince epithet seems to be applied around the 16th Century, probably referencing his armour or the shield he used in jousting. (Of course I'm sure Dan knows this and is just choosing the more famous name, but for anyone who didn't know, it might be worth something to you!)
@ellie6986 ай бұрын
One of my favourite poems is set in the battle of Crecy. The Fly by Miroslav Holub
@poet.alhashimi6 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary, thoroughly enjoyed it.
@jeffreymanestar53196 ай бұрын
Outstanding documentary, so interesting. Thank u
@paulm30336 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that the doctrine of chivalry didnt extend to the common soldiers and the french nobiilty who made up the bulk of the french army ,were particularly contemptible of the english and welsh archers, and would have shown them no mercy whatsoever, its sometimes easy and tempting for the vanquished to claim unfairness .
@fizzmoe98466 ай бұрын
Let’s also not forget that the idea of chivalrous knights in armor is complete hogwash
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont6 ай бұрын
It is said that at the end of the Battle of Formigny (1450), the English archers preferred to fight to the de-ath rather than be captured by the French.
@dogrudiyosun4 ай бұрын
How can bulk of an army be of aristocrates?
@DelfringerАй бұрын
@@dogrudiyosun a question of culture above all, France had chivalry as a culture and it was reserved for the noble being knight the loss of many nobles in the war even benefited the French king who gained power
@Pincer886 ай бұрын
This is so well done. An honest and fascinating account of how brutal warfare was and how close it got. Is Dan's book already available by the way?
@LuzMaria956 ай бұрын
yes I think it is.
@robertthomas17176 ай бұрын
Very interesting, I learned a lot. Thanks
@DJHalfbarr6 ай бұрын
Damn, going to have to pick up the Thomas of Hookton books by Bernard Cornwell again... (Starts with Harlequin/ The Archers Tale and is a great picture of Edward's and his sons Chevauchees of the 100s years war, from the perspective of a group of war bow archers)
@asburycollins91826 ай бұрын
Those are great! Saxon chronicles are s bit better tho imo
@bkp77773 ай бұрын
it was fantastic that you had Michael Livingston on, with the actual field of battle... great job!
@bradleypierce15616 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Always interesting to see the history between England and France. ❤
@nataliavinokurova95355 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! The documentary is absolutely amazing!
@AdamSullivan-o9c6 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Keep up the good work.
@billyt70816 ай бұрын
Wow I've read The Black Prince by Michael Jones, among other "historically accurate" pieces of this time, and there were some real eye openers here.
@Dotson69966 ай бұрын
You guys should do a series on the Sharpe books and series. Show what's taken from history and what's fiction.
@along99716 ай бұрын
I just love Dan,both of them lol
@PavelD836 ай бұрын
Blind King John of Bohemia came to Crécy to basically die in battle. He tied his horse's bridle to those of his attendants and galloped at the English into the melee; all were killed.
@craigcoates62476 ай бұрын
Great documentary, thank you very much
@shackledcitizen4 ай бұрын
Thank you father, well said. keep up giving your message.
@donaldedgar1004Ай бұрын
A brilliant documentary and well put together I wish there was even a dvd player about when I was at school and no we didn’t us slates and chalk we had paper and pen
@Lokipoisonivi6 ай бұрын
Where are these documentaries in the app. I haven’t much choice
@Medievalshields6 ай бұрын
Fascinating and informative
@oldbari26046 ай бұрын
The longbow men did not shoot their arrows into the air as your live clips kept showing. They shot them straight at the enemy as the old medieval illustrations you use show.
@asburycollins91826 ай бұрын
Not exclusively. But youre mostly correct in that assertion
@jbagger3312 ай бұрын
Just history, no politics, no weird agendas, just what happened. Great stuff.
@abasudoh74596 ай бұрын
I'm currently reading Essex Dogs
@madabouthistory46116 ай бұрын
love history 😎
@nickwilliamson23656 ай бұрын
Great video. Would have liked more about how and why the 'new' battlefield site can be justified. And 'a senior commander on the French side' said we shouldn't attack based on the disposition of the armies. And who is the quote from? *Blind* King John of Bohemia!
@abskhan83344 ай бұрын
Thanks for enlightening us, your great, real Patriots want our country to prosper not decline.
@JohnMacFergus-oz5cpАй бұрын
Great episode, great knowledgeable presenters! An important slice of history from which we should all learn. Thanks Dan, and the whole team at History Hit!
@jamesroberts22165 ай бұрын
I started by wondering if I was going to enjoy this but by the end I was gripped. 👏🏼
@laurag72956 ай бұрын
The long bow archers certainly made a difference
@JonathanJBoyle6 ай бұрын
I’ve read that a good description of the war bow (not ordinary longbow) - The cruise missile of its time.
@janpipal95005 ай бұрын
very exciting documentary , hope there might be some archeological finds on this site
@taramilton86954 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary!
@LuzMaria956 ай бұрын
Dan Jones is awesome and so is the historian Prof. Michael Livingston!
@brutus40135 ай бұрын
Loved it! Cheers 😎🥃
@noreenclark25685 ай бұрын
It's nice to see these French town's /, cities when Dan visits the areas where Edward 111 army was in 1346 although modernised now.
@calvanoni54436 ай бұрын
Thanks this was great!
@katherinecollins46855 ай бұрын
Fantastic documentary
@mikelanglow-bi2sv5 ай бұрын
Very good history lesson ❤😊
@helenejampierremarsh18966 ай бұрын
Merci !
@Kingshieldwall3 ай бұрын
Surely all History is 'what if ? ' Take this episode in history as a hell of an achievement against the odds 🤔
@donaldgraham64144 ай бұрын
Then French had it coming to them. They should never have taunted King Arthur and Michael Palin like that.
@Pincer886 ай бұрын
For those wondering: it's called a Chevauchée: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevauch%C3%A9e
@LuzMaria956 ай бұрын
thanks
@Bobbymaccys6 ай бұрын
The more civilised we become, the more horrific our ancestors appear. But at the time this was standard operating procedure.
@guyfawkes83843 ай бұрын
56:21 Wow, what a stark difference between the France now and the France that this documentary iis covering.
@zackhartley47186 ай бұрын
Good stuff 😎
@cleverusername93696 ай бұрын
Sad to think that we'll soon lose all of these veterans.
@jaxellis30086 ай бұрын
Veterans of the Battle of Crecy?
@cleverusername93696 ай бұрын
@@jaxellis3008 (it's a joke)
@jaxellis30086 ай бұрын
@@cleverusername9369 Hahaha. Thank God. Sorry to ask but some are truly that daft!
@cleverusername93696 ай бұрын
@@jaxellis3008 I mean, it is sad to think that we will lose D-Day veterans soon, but also I'm sure there are people dumb enough to see "invasion of France" and immediately think "D-day" and they're probably American. And I'm American, so I can say that.
@jaxellis30086 ай бұрын
@@cleverusername9369 and sadly you are not wrong 🤓
@JonathanJBoyle6 ай бұрын
While listening to the monologue we MUST remember that France was the European superpower of the age. The whole script portrays the English as the most powerful country. Is this another attempt by the BBC (it is aBBC documentary) to demean England? It certainly seems to be. Chevauchee was a tactical method of battle by all European armies at the time. The difference is - the English were better at it than any other army.heading from Caen to the northeast was to pull the French army out of Aquitane - Edward’s duchy.
@waynestackpoole36526 ай бұрын
I believe the "leopards" on Edwards tabard are the English lion rampant which is still used today. Theres a History Hit.
@dnmurphy484 ай бұрын
no they are different. The royal lion rampant is Scottish and reflected the later union of the crowns. The leopards or lions (they are referred to as leopards at one time and lions at another) started with the early plantagents. The royal coat of arms changed numerous times over the centuries.
@markg4546 ай бұрын
great presentation
@JasonD-yc3oy3 ай бұрын
Omg what happened to his arms
@johnnicholas16576 ай бұрын
is this new or old? I feel i have seen some of the sequences here
@paulm30336 ай бұрын
It would have been helpful if some of Michael's research could have been referenced in the video to explain his claims for suggesting that the battlefield site was about 3 miles away from the traditional accepted location and that the teenage future Bkack Prince wasnt just under pressure during the battle,but actually captured, as both are pivotal to an understanding of the battleod Crecy . I thoight this was a weakness of the video which was otherwise well presented and informative.
@garyjohnson47786 ай бұрын
He cited some obscure unsupported French source that was not even present at the battle. This guy is no historian. Even his formation theory is completely unsupported. The guy is just a contrarian looking for a point of difference. He ruined this.
@robertmastnak5816 ай бұрын
Very interesting fakts. Thx
@ArmenianKingdom5 ай бұрын
what is wrong with his arms? leprosy?
@2serveand2protect5 ай бұрын
...and then the Plague came.
@BeeKool__1134 ай бұрын
The OG D Day Landing ⚔️
@shealey97634 ай бұрын
Interesting documentary for sure, I'd like to see the evidence for things such as the Black Prince's capture, never heard that before anywhere.
@DeluxedraculaАй бұрын
“Woooooooooouhhhhh” ⚔️
@victorydaydeepstate6 ай бұрын
What did his boats look like?
@paulm30336 ай бұрын
The sack of Caen was horrible but the french would have done the same if the roles had been reversed and they did in fact do just that but on a much larger and longer scale when William the Conqueror laid waste to vast tracts of land between 1069/70 in what has become known as the harrying of the North .
@Conquerthemall6 ай бұрын
Wanted view half now half later But to good to watch separate So I will watch later ;)
@peterplotts12386 ай бұрын
I would love to see Edward's face if someone told him he was a war criminal due to the conduct of his army in Normandy 21st-century style. I admit I am unduly influenced by the portrayal of Edward in Brave Heart, a telling far from historical, but I loved the character. I can't remember the actor's name, but his depiction was entertaining and funny.
@DaughterofLir6 ай бұрын
The Edward in Braveheart is Edward I. This is much later and is his grandson, Edward III.
@peterplotts12386 ай бұрын
@@DaughterofLir Oh, that is embarrassing. I should have realized that. The Braveheart Edward I was still entertaining, nevertheless. There are just too many Edwards among the Kings of England.
@GeorgeTenev6 ай бұрын
I respect historical accuracy and this is exactly why it is ridiculous when they start explaining how massive was an army of 15000 men... I am not going into details you would see that this is nothing, compared to other armies even from this period.
@deanagarnes26766 ай бұрын
Was war any different from what we are exposed to or experiencing in modern warfare? I feel only weapons have charged. The reason has not changed much either. Someone has something someone else wants, and they are going for it. There will always be those who try to make it right, but they usually lie. Just a thought, mine!
@9er..6 ай бұрын
Only a matter of time before Sir Scott ( and eventually Sir Jones) make a movie🤞🤞🤞
@rolandscales93806 ай бұрын
He pronounced "Saint-Vaast-la-Hougue" correctly! A lot of KZbinrs wouldn't bother to find out.
@andrasszabo15706 ай бұрын
Dan Jones isn't a KZbinr. He's a proper historian, with the appropriate expectations for himself.
@juliangilbert5465Ай бұрын
Did King Edward speak French, or English?
@otteotte76986 ай бұрын
What music is this?
@jmwilliamsart6 ай бұрын
How many of these medieval buildings, cathedrals, and castle walls survived the destruction of the 2nd World War? Are these medieval cathedrals, walls,and structures the real deal or were they reconstructed after the 2nd World War? How did they reconstruct medieval structures to make them look like how they looked back then?
@LuzMaria956 ай бұрын
these are all good questions and deserve their own documentary
@davidtownsend60922 ай бұрын
Frenchman: it was an absolutely horrible event for the French. Englishman interviewing him : Dang how horrible......thanks for the pad tho. Scoreboard!
@Rod1Malkin5 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation!!!!! [+ a very minor side comment. wiki: "Tattoos are meant to be permanent, ... complete tattoo removal is difficult. Some degree of scarring or skin color variation is likely to remain, regardless of the specific method of tattoo removal" ]
@robbyakes87366 ай бұрын
WAR IS EVIL
@danielmartin78386 ай бұрын
Not inherently
@TheUltimateWriterNZ6 ай бұрын
39:06 Hmmmm….
@PSDuck2166 ай бұрын
Speaking as a medieval historian and economist: Jones falls into the trap many Victorian “historians” (and others subsequently) have before him: that is to rate events of the past subjectively, from his own modernist views and mores. This, instead of observing objectively, based on the facts (as we know them) from the historical standpoint and the morality of the day, which is markedly different from our own. The medieval median age was about half ours. It was a young, violent culture that encouraged blood sports, and condoned slavery. And not just the English: everyone did it, every country. Remember, Froissart was first and foremost French, pro French, and hardly criticized the French leaders. He wanted to keep his head on his shoulders, after all. I tired of his modernist views, especially “war criminal” observations. Every side, in modernist eyes, was chock full of “war criminals”, from kings, leaders, churchmen and commons. So, Mr Jones, do not tar one side liberally with that appellation. Historians should be objective, not subjective, lest their presentation be labeled a hit piece and propaganda. Just as Mr Jones judges from his personal perspective, we too will be judged in twenty, fifty and a hundred years hence as barbarians if not judged from the point of view of today, not those of future days. Cheers!
@danielmartin78386 ай бұрын
Annoying and unfair! Or, just ignorant
@robert-surcouf6 ай бұрын
There's one thing about Jean Froissart that many people misunderstand as he was "french" speaker but not french himself as he was born in the county of Hainaut which was in the HRE. The other thing is that many falsely believe the war was strictly between france and england but many duchy in france were loyal or ally with the Plantagenet (the dynasty whic ruled england) rather than with the Valois (the dynasty which ruled france) so their interest was to to portray "england" (more accurately the plantagenet) in a better way than france (more accurately the valois). As Philippa (Edward 3 wife) was from the Hainaut, Froissart was rather pro "english" rather than pro "french". Froissart himself worked mostly for Philippa between 1361 and 1369. In the 1370's and 1380's, he worked for the duke of luxembourg, then the duchess of Brabant, then the count of Blois then the duke of Hainaut (none of them besides Blois were lands in france). He finally worked for the count of Foix (who played both sides in the war) and returned in england in 1395 and it was in that time that he criticized "england" (rather Richard 2 rule). Froissart worked only 2 years at the french court (between 1386 and 1388 when he was under the count of Blois) but spent far more time at the english court so it's a long way to say he tried to please the Valois rulers and the french nobles who supported them.
@fredengels81886 ай бұрын
we still act as barbarians in many instances
@Trecesolotienesdos6 ай бұрын
Whilst Edward III won hat part of the war, he lost to the French king later in the 14th century.
@DavoidJohnson5 ай бұрын
The enthusiasm shown here for the brutality of the English in their endeavours will be recognised by those in other countries such as Scotland and Ireland.
@bernhardfraser5 ай бұрын
Pathetic.
@Onora619Ай бұрын
Normandy, 1346: "The English are coming! By sea! By sea!" Massachusetts, 1775: "The British are coming! By sea! By sea!"
@jadeyork4919Ай бұрын
France is so beautiful. We English are a savage lot, I don't know about Essex, but life in the north is harsh, the weather, the landscape, and this produces a certain type. I'm convinced the English establishment keeps us brutalised, as the North, Scotland, Ulster is a fertile recruiting ground for the armed forces. You only have to look at the English abroad on holiday, or abroad at football matches, to imagine what went down in the middle ages.
@Onora619Ай бұрын
Also laid the groundwork for the aggressive behavior of the United States and other colonized nations in the centuries to come. They mimicked the Romans philosophy though, so that may be partially why.
@srebuckАй бұрын
France, Spain, and Portugal were all brutal colonial powers. Read also about the violent and oppressive Romans. I could go on. We’re nothing special when it comes to brutality.
@jimkirby179924 күн бұрын
Were not the seeds of Edwards invasion of France sown in the Norman invasion of England in 1066.
@wisconsinatIon2 ай бұрын
Fascinating glimpse of ancient times, and my ancestors. I am a descendant of Edward III via his granddaughter Anne, daughter of Thomas of Woodstock, hence also descended from the Counts of Eu you also mentioned. I want to note that the closed captions to this documentary are VERY DISAPPOINTING., Caen comes out Kong or K, and Chevauchée comes out various ways, but NEVER anything close to the right word, beyond a couple times when it is "chev." Those unfamiliar with the French language or these specific terms or names of geographical place-names will get no help from the closed captioning, and that is sad. There is a massive boatload of information delivered in verbal form, and that limits availability to those already familiar with what you're telling them. Sadly, I find this often to be the case with documentaries of this ilk. Edward III was a bit of an SOB, which made him highly regarded at the time, but I am not really proud of him as my ancestor. I guess the ancestor I'm proudest of would be Eleanor of Aquitaine; I'm descended from one of her sons and two of her daughters. Oh those inbred royals! KUDOS to the French historians who were willing and able to speak with you in English for your English speaking audience. EDIT: Sorry, forgot to say THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK!!!!!
@laurag72956 ай бұрын
Gee the samecthing happened at Azincourt!
@StuartAnderson-xl4bo6 ай бұрын
No mud happened at Agincourt and poor tactics by the French the use of Longbow has been proven to be formidable but not as overpowering as you were taught
@brandmotivo22 күн бұрын
Dan you should do a documentary with the american guy together..
@steveford10704 ай бұрын
1000 ships holding 15,000 soldiers?
@mt_baldwin2 ай бұрын
So the Black Prince at Crecy did exactly the same thing, for the same reason, with the same results, as Union general Daniel E. Sickles did at the battle of Gettysburg. The Union army is on the defensive in a fish-hook formation having solid success gunning down the attacking rebel army, then in a foolhardy bid for glory (though he claims he saw an opening) Sickles orders his division to go the offensive, breaks the integrity of the fish-hook by creating two gaps on either side of his division (he stuck out like a sore thumb said witnesses), his division gets enveloped and badly mauled by the rebels, Sickles gets his leg shot off, and General Meade has to send reinforcements to save Sickles and stabilize the line. I guess some things in war never change. Another thing that hasn't changed, The Black Price gained much glory for his foolhardy actions and Sickles did too, being awarded the Medal of Honor for his self-inflicted fiasco. Edit: oh the opening Sickles claimed he saw absolutely did not exist, in fact that rebel position was their strongest on the battlefield and they nearly broke through the Union lines, had Meade not moved to save Sickles the battle of Gettysburg would've had a different outcome.
@JonathanJBoyle6 ай бұрын
The whole documentary (23 mins in) appears to demonise the English. Remember Edward Third was a PLANTAGENET. A French duke. That is why the French army was in Aquitaine - Edward was Duke of Aquitaine. Besides, the French used the same tactics. Also remember how the French treated their own subjects at Soissons, also during the 100 years war, before Henry 5th defeated the French at Azincourt to become king of BOTH England and France (unfortunately, he died before ascending the throne).
@laurag72956 ай бұрын
I love the regular soldiers then, men who, given a second chance, made something of themselves, their commanding officers and their country😊
@gio-oz8gf6 ай бұрын
Did you not hear the things they did? I doubt you'd have admired them had you been one of the French citizens just going about your daily life. They make the Russians in Ukraine seem like pussy cats.