The Bodies of Mount Everest: What Happened to Mallory and Irvine?

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Georgia Marie

Georgia Marie

Күн бұрын

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@msf0708
@msf0708 2 жыл бұрын
“He was ageing, he was in his .. 30’s” Georgia how could you do me like that
@CawKee
@CawKee 6 ай бұрын
Sweet isn't it, "He was ageing, he was in his ...... 30s" LOL
@CawKee
@CawKee 3 ай бұрын
They say hill runners don't peak until they're older, something to do with stamina
@SillyStokey92
@SillyStokey92 2 жыл бұрын
I must be too emotional lately because that last little sentence about his grandson made me cry. This was a wonderful and interesting story. I find the desire to climb Everest so fascinating because I also feel that it is something I would never have any desire to do.
@CawKee
@CawKee 6 ай бұрын
I've been watching a lot of thd Mallory/Irvine stuff on KZbin. I'm not a climber but I found the story very interesting. Once I looked at the different routes up Everest it becomes like a good thriller.
@paulmcevilly6876
@paulmcevilly6876 Жыл бұрын
Into the silence by Wade Davis is the best account of Mallory and Irvine epic book
@tracycameron5099
@tracycameron5099 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic book
@jocannon8190
@jocannon8190 2 жыл бұрын
What a poignant story, thank you for telling it so eloquently. I like to think they made it, but the overwhelming sadness for me was the Sherpa people and the sacrifices they've made, often silently and with none of the glory, over the decades. What incredible people they must be. (I'd love to watch a video on the South Pole and its many mysteries and conspiracies, if you ever fancied exploring that one!)
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard about any South Pole mysteries, consider me intrigued!
@roie1077
@roie1077 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to learn more about Sherpas and their experiences with climbing, I recommend Life and Death on Mt. Everest: Sherpas and Himalayan Mountaineering by Sherry B. Ortner. It’s an ethnography of the Sherpas, had to read it for an anthropology class and really enjoyed it.
@kiera_rdh6697
@kiera_rdh6697 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds super interesting, thanks for the recommendation!
@morgo2
@morgo2 2 жыл бұрын
I climbed Mt. Rainier with Dave Hahn as my guide. He was the person who was sent up to look for Mallory’s remains after Conrad Anker, as well as looking for the camera. His account of events is incredibly interesting. He did end up finding the remains, unsure about the camera though.
@mksaber170
@mksaber170 2 жыл бұрын
Conrad Anker found the body on Mt Everest in 1999.
@morgo2
@morgo2 2 жыл бұрын
@@mksaber170 Sorry I was slightly unclear. Yes Conrad Anker was first; however, it was speculated whether he died on the way up or down so the key piece of evidence was the camera Mallory had. He then wanted to try and find any other evidence (on top of the camera) to try and figure out if he did make it to the top.
@bethanyreann463
@bethanyreann463 2 жыл бұрын
I love this mystery & history hybrid video! Anything to do with the mysteries of Mount Everest are so fascinating to me. Thanks for another great video!!
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bethany!!
@crystalball82
@crystalball82 2 жыл бұрын
i do love the mystery + history combo too!!
@chezoneinfamous4379
@chezoneinfamous4379 2 жыл бұрын
Georgia Marie is a top notch entertainment, ALWAYS!!!!!!!! She never lets us down 😘thanks love
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@Con_blue
@Con_blue 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the better quality of your videos lately and the new background, well done!🌷
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I’m so glad you’re appreciating it! I actually broke my new lens after filming this video so it’s gone for repair 😅 apologies if the next couple of videos are old quality again!
@Con_blue
@Con_blue 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgiamarie_ Haha, that's ok!
@whatzittooya3873
@whatzittooya3873 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder sometimes how many of these "firsts" that europeans claim for themselves are actually true. Humans have existed for such a long time that it's crazy to think that nobody ever climbed the mountain for example. We dismiss people from the past, especially other ethnicities, so we like to think that we civilized and smart europeans are the only people who could have reached the peak because xyd. Just because something is modern doesn't mean it's better, it's crazy how often we discover old intricate artifacts that make us change the way we view people from the past. Just a thought I guess!
@matthewjohnson959
@matthewjohnson959 2 жыл бұрын
Usually they say "first documented assent"
@beautytryouts
@beautytryouts 2 жыл бұрын
Like Christopher Columbus..
@hawkingdawking4572
@hawkingdawking4572 2 жыл бұрын
No one claimed Everest summit before Hillary and Tensing.
@whitneyangelie3682
@whitneyangelie3682 2 жыл бұрын
It means “first documented” …. not that no ever human on the face of the earth has ever done it 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️😂😂
@hawkingdawking4572
@hawkingdawking4572 2 жыл бұрын
@@whitneyangelie3682 No one actually climbed the summit before them. There was no oxygen cylinders or Alpine mountaineers prior to late 19th or 20th century. There was no reason to climb except to declare it public to get the thrill. No one managed to do that before H&T did the summit.
@kevinkral4568
@kevinkral4568 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice of Everest photos and I'm surprised you let them pass without comment, as they illustrate your discussion of Everest's shape and the two principal routes to the summit, viz.: 05:01 The *Northeast Ridge* above the *Second Step,* looking southwest toward the *Third Step* and the *Summit,* which is just out of sight behind the highest point visible. 05:29 The *Southeast Ridge* from the *South Summit* traverse, looking northwest toward the *Hillary Step,* reduced by the recent earthquake to the *Hillary Slope.* The *Summit* is out of sight and further uphill, behind the highest point visible. I wanted to mention this because so many of these mountaineering videos use unrelated images. Regards, Kev ps. An instant subscription if I've ever seen one. -K.
@pushingdaisies_
@pushingdaisies_ 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t often comment but I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this in-depth, longer video! You can see how the cases are amazingly detailed and well-researched. Thanks Georgia and keep up the good work!
@katiecook6006
@katiecook6006 2 жыл бұрын
So interesting! Have any of you done any research into the Franklin Expedition? Similar concerns in that story. Also, the Belgian Antarctic Expedition. Which I read about in an amazing book "The Madhouse at the End of the Earth". I'm a sucker for these. "Expedition gone wrong" stuff.
@sallyhazy
@sallyhazy 2 жыл бұрын
Georgia, you sound so cute in the Hello Fresh add. There's something in the audio that makes your voice sound so precious
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
It must be the kitchen echo 😅
@RealElongatedMuskrat
@RealElongatedMuskrat 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Georgia, bless you for this upload! I'm fascinated by this story, so to have one of my absolute favourite creators cover it is a treat. It really is a fascinating, haunting tale. I'm also so SO glad that you mentioned the number of Sherpa who die in this field. I've always thought of it as these people losing their lives, and their families losing loved ones and financial support, for the sake of western vanity projects for the most part. I know now that this isn't the whole picture, it's a much more complex issue than that, but the point remains that Sherpa do arguably the most difficult and dangerous work, carrying supplies and laying down their lives for these foreigners and wealthy folks to be able to say they climbed Everest. I believe Tenzing Norgay spoke about this and his family brought it up again not too many years ago, after that Everest film had an accident involving many Sherpa. Its really devastating. Edit: "On 18 April 2014, while the second unit crew was shooting remaining scenes of the film at Camp II on Everest, an avalanche struck, killing 16 Sherpa guides. The Sherpas were carrying equipment and supplies to camps for climbers in advance of the start of the summer climbing season. There were no injuries or fatalities affecting the film crew."
@tashas9040
@tashas9040 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your original video, climbing Everest sounds like my worst nightmare but such a fascinating topic!! I would love to see you cover and hear your opinions on the new London school explosion
@moigjoid260
@moigjoid260 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that his grandson left his photo at the summit for him 😭😭
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
So cute isn’t it!
@emily04iv
@emily04iv 2 жыл бұрын
Ive always figured they made it and died coming back down. Especially with the picture not in his pocket.
@parurushi
@parurushi 2 жыл бұрын
This mystery is one I have a huge fascination and interest for I almost screamed when I saw this video in my subscriptions. I kind of wanna believe they made it, tho I do agree with Hilary and others' statements that you need to come back down for it to count as a success. I hope that Irvine's body is found someday, and I do think he's still in the mountain (I kinda think that a lot of "the Chinese are hiding it" theories are fueled by sinophobia so...... yeah...........). Excellent video, I enjoyed it a lot, thank you!!
@n3ltu
@n3ltu 2 жыл бұрын
i remember your mt everest video! has always been one of my favs to go back to when i rewatch your stuff :)
@ellagigg3625
@ellagigg3625 2 жыл бұрын
Your Everest video was one of my favourites ever, so happy to see you’ve done another one!
@KarynHill
@KarynHill 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this video and got a text saying my HelloFresh box has been delivered. I wish they could have solved this before Irvine and Mallory's loved ones passed. It would have been nice for them to have some sort of resolution.
@aleshabrady9566
@aleshabrady9566 2 жыл бұрын
So I found you on Facebook maybe a week too 2 weeks ago and I've binge watched every video up too 4 years ago so far🙄😂
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it’s good to know that my Facebook page is doing its job and getting people here! Welcome!
@donaldmcauliffe3120
@donaldmcauliffe3120 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you feeling better l am proud of you enjoying your stories you study each case
@dontstalkmept2383
@dontstalkmept2383 2 жыл бұрын
you cover such interesting cases/topics! always something a little different, like this case, or like your history series. we love you and appreciate your hard work Georgia ❤️
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for appreciating!!
@eakinde
@eakinde 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fantastic video! For more on this topic, I recommend people check out Michael Tracy's videos on the 1924 climb. He challenges many common beliefs and offers alternate perspectives. Great topic choice!!!
@whitneyangelie3682
@whitneyangelie3682 2 жыл бұрын
God who looks at Mt Everest and thinks “you know what sounds like a good idea? Climbing all the way to the top!” That trek sounds like a nightmare to me , but to each their own…. Anyway I still remember the video you did on Mt Everest where you talked about people being frozen to death near the summit who were still right-side up as if they were still walking. That creepy image is forever seared in my mind!
@julieproctor3159
@julieproctor3159 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. You are such a great narrator
@missjudd16
@missjudd16 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always! I remember watching your original video all those years ago so I so happy to see you exploring the subject further. Excellent job 🖤🖤
@daguard411
@daguard411 2 жыл бұрын
A great story, well told. Thank You!
@alexratcliff6344
@alexratcliff6344 2 жыл бұрын
What a great mystery! Loved listening to this x
@heatheratkinson7956
@heatheratkinson7956 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. I love these stories about Everest xx
@daniraye6879
@daniraye6879 2 жыл бұрын
This video was fascinating I would love to see more mystery videos like this!
@sarahleony
@sarahleony 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, G!
@lattlaylew2112
@lattlaylew2112 2 жыл бұрын
Georgia good evening , you are a very interesting person and your videos are highly informative. , maybe you could look at siege of Leningrad . Your style is perfect for delivering some factual evidence and information
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
A good video idea, thank you!
@MalloryS5523
@MalloryS5523 2 жыл бұрын
Everest is seriously SO interesting!!
@juliamarie7843
@juliamarie7843 2 жыл бұрын
love these kind of videos
@LiquidShivaz
@LiquidShivaz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you once more for a brilliant history/ true crime story. For Irvine’s family, I do hope his body will be found one day. Personally stories like this irk me the wrong way. In order to fulfill a challenge like this you’d be have to be really egotistic, willing to climb over your dead friends body.
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
I do have a lot of questions about the ethics of climbing Everest!
@ellieclaire3166
@ellieclaire3166 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting!
@heatheratkinson7956
@heatheratkinson7956 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video about the groups led by Rob Hall and Scott Fischer in 1996? You briefly mentioned it in your other Everest video where 10 people perished on the descent xx
@sarahcox1805
@sarahcox1805 2 жыл бұрын
I love HelloFresh but I never thought to save the recipes to browse like that! I always throw them in the recycle bin and then have to dig through my order history to try to find past recipes. You've inspired me now! :)
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you’ve been missing out!! I use my little recipe book almost every day, highly recommend keeping them all!
@kjs-1138
@kjs-1138 2 жыл бұрын
Love the humans-vs-the-elements stories you cover (your Everest and Juliane Koepcke vids are my favourites), more please!
@ummarah2000
@ummarah2000 2 жыл бұрын
I HOPE THEY MADE IT . HOW BRAVE OF THESE MEN R.I.P
@Ronin-ke5wm
@Ronin-ke5wm 8 ай бұрын
Good video. I suspect Odell saw them at the thrid step though. From where Odell was, you can't see the first step. Also Mallory said the ridge route was impossble and only discussed taking the horizontal route across to the Great Couloir. I believe they were seen by odell climbing the third step and that would have put them on the top at at 4pm. I think they descended mostly in the dark and only about 300m from from Camp VI one or both slipped.
@ladylazarus35
@ladylazarus35 2 жыл бұрын
Georgia, you have to read the white road by Sarah lotz! Amazing book
@captaincodpiece3263
@captaincodpiece3263 Жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive video on the subject I’ve seen. On the balance of probability i think they didn’t make it. Finding the body would answer a lot. I thought I knew pretty much all the information on this from other videos but I didn’t thanks to Georgia’s comprehensive research and presentation. Hers is the only one that mentions the ethical aspects, and also mentions the Sherpas who get left out of most documentaries
@marksgirl8295
@marksgirl8295 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Every time you said “ice ax”, my ears heard eye sacks. The first time you said it, I had to go back and listen again. Haha.
@rh2097
@rh2097 2 жыл бұрын
I climbed a tiny, 1000m last week… I thought I was gonna die just from that xD
@reneeq8079
@reneeq8079 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like one of the native people summited it first. However, in the context of this situation I want to think they did. If they went into it with a “or die trying” attitude I feel they would have went for the summit even if they died on top, especially that close if it was the 2nd step.
@terridemaio2926
@terridemaio2926 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Georgia I'm Chilling with this video
@galen3849
@galen3849 2 жыл бұрын
I recommended this one to you a few months go, thanks for covering it :)
@ronnimesser
@ronnimesser 2 жыл бұрын
Listened to a podcast that said a Chinese team found Irvine years ago along with the camera but that the film was mishandled 🤦🏻‍♀️
@mksaber170
@mksaber170 2 жыл бұрын
Thom Pollard has a book out about this.
@rickspigot2205
@rickspigot2205 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are the best at reporting and do well with an unnoticed GAD I believe. I have a business where I've searched for a voice understandable by those who first and second language isn't English. A shame you are so far away from S.W and S Florida. I wonder if you would have interest in some agreeable way. Definitely History series. Thanks. Nothing more... take as compliments. Great job giving life and jusrice seeking to those in need of a voice and in need of it from lost in time as well. Great job again again again.
@fatherfroggy4210
@fatherfroggy4210 2 жыл бұрын
Could the ice pick have been left or dropped on their way down? If so that could suggest they got further
@tracycameron5099
@tracycameron5099 5 ай бұрын
Great presentation...what about Sandy's body being found years ago, (with a camera, the film of which was destroyed), by a team who took it down and basically kept it silent. Hob nailed boots were found in a museum, which gavecthe clue. It was something about not wanting a British team to be the first to summit. The Chinese wanted the title. Also urge reading "Into the Silence" by Wade Davis. Very comprehensive. He is an historian and adventurer.
@subhashsharma6937
@subhashsharma6937 Жыл бұрын
Love you for imformation
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mount Everest or should we call it Mount Homicide or The Murderhorn. I just watched two documentaries about disasters at Mount Everest, one was the earthquake in Nepal several years back and that expedition in the mid 1990s. I believe 1996 that went horribly wrong.
@RealElongatedMuskrat
@RealElongatedMuskrat 2 жыл бұрын
1996 and 2014 I think, yes! Two terrible tragedies. The irony of the 1996 disaster being dramatised by Hollywood in a film that caused further deaths and damage to the Sherpa is... well, something. I think the film was just called Everest, the one with Jake Gyllenhaal in it.
@RealElongatedMuskrat
@RealElongatedMuskrat 2 жыл бұрын
found the details exactly: "On 18 April 2014, while the second unit crew was shooting remaining scenes of the film at Camp II on Everest, an avalanche struck, killing 16 Sherpa guides. The Sherpas were carrying equipment and supplies to camps for climbers in advance of the start of the summer climbing season. There were no injuries or fatalities affecting the film crew." Hmmm, that might be why most of the interviews about the film regards the" tough but fun" environment and not, ya know, the SIXTEEN men who lost their lives.
@plantlovingrose
@plantlovingrose 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it is technically called ‘ever-rest’. Aka many climbers’ final, forever resting place.
@kendal_dayle
@kendal_dayle 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a history video on Lillian ward!
@CawKee
@CawKee 6 ай бұрын
Mallory and Irvine might have summited in 1924. 1). Weather was relatively warm (for Everest), 2). Their clothing and boots were of comparable (or lighter) than modern clothing and boots. 3). They had oxygen (and Irvine was familiar and capable of fixing it) 4). Mallory was an experienced climber. 5). Mallory was in the two previous expeditions. 6). Matterhorn had been climbed in 1865 so 2nd step wasn't impossible due to gear limitations. 7). The second step has been climbed by two different climbers on two different routes on the same day without the ladder, a man of Mallory's experience would have been able to climb the second step (if the rock and snow conditions were favourable) as it wasn't the difficulty of climbing it, it was the time it would take and the problems associated with high altitude
@kalifogg6610
@kalifogg6610 11 ай бұрын
I heard so many contradictory information on the picture of George Mallory’s wife. I have heard that he didn’t bring a picture of his wife with him on the expedition. I heard that he did bring a picture, but didn’t bring it with him on the summit attempt. I heard that the story about the picture was only told years after Mallory had died and he hadn’t said anything about planning on taking a picture of his wife to the top of Everest and leaving it. I have heard that Mallory was supposed to have had collected rocks from the top of Everest and that the Team that found him didn’t report finding any rocks or if they even searched for them. It’s probably going to remain a mystery as to whether or not Mallory and Irvine make it to the summit.
@Rainbowofthefallen
@Rainbowofthefallen 7 ай бұрын
Just commenting for the algorithm 🤎💜
@amywelch5176
@amywelch5176 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Georgia! I've been listening to your podcast and the most recent was the Bibb county John doe! I'm not sure if you've covered this in a video but he has been IDENTIFIED! I was looking into the case after listening and saw that he has been identified. Ignore this if you have already seen this but I thought it was important to share 😊 I love your videos and especially your podcast lately!! "**BREAKING: The Identifinders team has identified Bibb County, Alabama’s 1961 John Doe as then 15-year-old Daniel Paul ‘Danny’ Armentrout from Miami, Florida."
@salicylicacid9945
@salicylicacid9945 2 жыл бұрын
Ok someone NEEDS to find that camera
@redtomcat1725
@redtomcat1725 Жыл бұрын
They made the summit!! What we know tells their story !!~
@eadred9164
@eadred9164 2 жыл бұрын
When the British Empire ruled the seven seas!!! Greatest time in human history!!
@maryscott9430
@maryscott9430 2 жыл бұрын
Georgia, im curious, what ethical questions do you have about climbing Everest?
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many but mainly the fact that pretty much anything that’s been discarded on Everest in the last 100 years is still there because it’s not worth climbers taking it all back down, too dangerous. It’s really bad for the environment! Also it’s very egotistical to risk your life just to say you’ve done it, potentially putting others at risk in the process, your body will remain there forever. And that’s not even talking about the amount of Sherpas who have lost their lives over the years!
@crochetingcanuck
@crochetingcanuck 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgiamarie_ Yes I've heard that Everest has become quite the trash heap from humans leaving all sorts of junk there, in addition to natural human waste and bodies, and it being too dangerous to clean up. Such a shame.
@justinchamberlain4382
@justinchamberlain4382 9 ай бұрын
Yes I do believe they made it to the top and died on the way down.
@paigeleigh2554
@paigeleigh2554 2 жыл бұрын
Until this video, I had no interest in this subject. Now, I am intrigued. Thank you!
@2frogland
@2frogland Жыл бұрын
they never went by the second step as messner didnt either its just the modern route one of many
@jade-wr9pn
@jade-wr9pn 2 жыл бұрын
If they thought bringing oxygen on a mountain was cheating, they are going to HATE the S.C.U.B.A. community 😂
@HaleyStark.
@HaleyStark. Жыл бұрын
Imagine the audacity of getting 7 people killed in an avalanche, and then trying to do it again...
@JonasReichert1992
@JonasReichert1992 6 ай бұрын
Pretty normal at the time.
@eimearinez
@eimearinez 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could get hello fresh in Ireland
@georgiamarie_
@georgiamarie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Can you not?! That’s so sad, hopefully one day!
@eimearinez
@eimearinez 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgiamarie_ I know there’s talks of last December but still no sign of it would love it as so handy
@katharinew4218
@katharinew4218 2 жыл бұрын
Your audio is low, are you using a professional mic?
@MulletJoe368
@MulletJoe368 Жыл бұрын
Actually alot of people in their 50's and 60s climb it.
@brynstuder1672
@brynstuder1672 2 жыл бұрын
Score! I was looking for something to watch!
@aleksandralempart8305
@aleksandralempart8305 2 жыл бұрын
Like this video 📹
@haileybalmer9722
@haileybalmer9722 2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably not the first person to think about this, but isn't it pretty bloody likely that Sherpas made it to the peak of Everest before people who aren't from that area? I mean, the Sherpas have evolved to live on the mountain and they need less air than the rest of us. Doesn't it kind of seem like they probably did it before a couple of doughy white dudes who were giving up on their bodies in their 30's? Apa Sherpa hauled a pack of clueless foreigners up there in 2011 when he was in his 50's. I'm just saying, it seems way more likely to me that Sherpas made it up there first.
@mksaber170
@mksaber170 2 жыл бұрын
They also highly revere the mountain. Before making it out of base camp one must attend a ceremony given by the monks in the area asking for peace from the gods for trampling on holy ground.
@ifus-qg6wo
@ifus-qg6wo Жыл бұрын
Put some respect on that man’s name! Tenzig Norgay! All sarcasim and joking aside, Hillary’s sherpa and climbing partner was Tenzig Norgay
@subhashsharma6937
@subhashsharma6937 Жыл бұрын
Madam ji ye dono first winér h
@1stepcl0ser
@1stepcl0ser 2 жыл бұрын
i would never in a million years climb mount everest lol no thx! also they should stop allowing sooo many people on there
@Theyrecomingtogetyoubarbara
@Theyrecomingtogetyoubarbara 2 жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating. I don’t think they managed to summit very sadly. Unless Irving is found with a camera it’s doubtful we’ll ever know for sure.
@ladylazarus35
@ladylazarus35 2 жыл бұрын
Georgia, you have to read the white road by Sarah lotz! Amazing book
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