The Bondo Trick You Don't Know Part 2 - Work & Finish Filler 3x Faster !!! - DIY Auto Restoration

[@Whitecranekungfu]

Thank You. Im the guy trying to rebuild a 62 Merc Comet. Im working on a Theme Park pay budget. I was gonna use the less is more method. You are a well spoken, easy to understand and speaking slow. Thank you.....

[@guzzifabrication3448]

If you have any questions, leave them in the comments and I will try to help. Thank you for supporting the channel ! Good luck on the Merc !

[@skipragsdale3565]

Yes! That's the way that I was first taught to Mud, back in the early '70s. I've never used a frame with the half round cheeze-whizzer either, just with the flat files they're difficult to hold otherwise. Like you show, we've always used a board to support the 40 - 60 grit. The Crepe Rubber squares that they sell at the wood workers stores to unclog sandpaper works great to unclog the Mud from the paper. You got yourself a new Subscriber!! Thanks for the Bondo tips, I liked the one with adding the fiberglass resin to the Bondo!!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks ! I never use a holder for the half round, I thought it would be to hard to explain how to do it without the holder..... Thanks for the sub and WELCOME to my channel !!

[@tonymartinez15949]

Do you know you’re the first guy that I see that teach that I learn that in the 90s from my old school guy? I’m glad you brought it up

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Not alot of new guys have seen this, just passing it on, Merry Christmas

[@luckyvids]

Hey man, it's great that you're teaching the young generation the right way of using body filler. This video brought me back to the 70s when they used to call me the bondoman. You're doing it exactly the way we did it back then. The only difference I see is that we used to move the chess grader, or the sanding block, in a cross motion to leave the surface completely level, it's very important if you're doing a whole door or half a hood.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks !

[@jimmypickett9912]

I appreciate this video.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

It will make your life easier if you use correctly.I appreciate your comment.Thank you Sir!

[@robaxelsson530]

Been using cheese graters for years..learned it’s better to apply 3 thin coats rather than 1 thick also.. discovered a wire coat hanger (bent in half) is good to “beat” filler out of clogged sand paper..

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I haven't heard the coat hanger one before. Thanks for the comment and have a great new year

[@robaxelsson530]

@@guzzifabrication3448 yeah, used old filler to make a “handle” for the wire…

[@MrJoebiz24]

First, the adding of Resin to the bondo video. Now, the shaping process simplified. The education I just received is priceless.......

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@MrJoebiz24 That's awesome, Thanks !!!

[@UnconventionalMetal]

Even though I’ve read about using a rasp, you confirmed that I need one when I start on my project.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

It will make life much easier , Merry Christmas !

[@russdavis1960]

Yup. Been using a 'half round' rasp for a lot of decades. One thing I'll do to clean it our is to simply use the wire brush portion of my bench grinder. I can't recall when I bought the last rasp...but it's been a long time. Thanks for posting.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks @russdavis1960 ! Merry Christmas !

[@WilliamTillman]

Man , I can’t thank you enough for sharing your knowledge

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@WilliamTillman thank you for the comment this is a really old time buddyman trick just passing it on if you just correctly and greatly reduces the amount of pinholes if too much resin is added it will have a negative effects

[@kway745]

Good video. The only thing I would add, because some people might think this is some specialty tool you need to buy online or from a specific auto body supply place, is that these are readily available at any hardware store. Big box or local. Find them in the tool section with the woodworking stuff.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks !

[@outsider7658]

Thank`s for the tips! Great to see. I am with the "old school" and use "lead" and, what we call those: "Panzer Files". Your way makes it much easier for those, using "Bondo" only. I, on the other hand, use only about 1 millimeter or so of the stuff. Just to "even out" the last eventual marks. Like this anyhow. from a Finn in Diaspora

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Awesome ! thanks for the comment I really appreciate it ! I would love to see how other craftsmen work in other countries !!

[@rarefiedhermetic792]

As a semi retired guy looking to learn to restore cars for a hobby, these instructional videos are great! Short, to the point, and very clear and simple to understand. New subscriber here.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Welcome to the family !! thanks for the subscription. I think this is video 204? check out the playlist. Thanks again.

[@douglash3129]

Hey, I used this method on the whole side of my 65 Chevelle, I didn't use the cheese grater, I used 40 grit with a long board, primer filler and blocked it and primed it and blocked it and the end result was laser straight panels! I feel the more you sand that filler with finer grit paper, the more of a chance your gonna put waves in it! Just my opinion! Thanks Man!👍👍

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@douglash3129 Awesome !!! Thank you for the feedback !

[@LittleCobra-eu9cx]

Why does my glass or puddy get hard so fast

[@ericschulze5641]

​@LittleCobra-eu9cx Depends on the temperature, the hotter it is the less hardener you use, mix a small amount note the color when you get the results you want

[@toyotas4ever]

We called them cheese graters.😂 Yes, these are a great tool to use!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir ! have a great new year !

[@samuelsmith2522]

I'm entertained and educated from your videos! Keep up the good work

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes Sir ! Merry Christmas

[@bentaxelrod]

Yep it works. Been doing it since 1978. Good advice.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Just passing on old time tricks. Have a great new year !

[@jonathanvidal3073]

Thanks for another great informative video. Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks ! Merry Christmas to you and family as well !

[@jeremyolson2596]

Another excellent video. Merry Christmas brother! Back here in Springs

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks brother ! hope you guys have a great Christmas !

[@stevescott6503]

I used to do a lot of wood work, I used the small rasp for shaping corners all the time, it works great.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

It saves a ton of time shaping, that's for sure.

[@lyngreen5801]

Oh this is brilliant….i only want to do a mower bonnet, female 70yrs old, I feel a new hobby coming on. Lovely voice, clear, precise full explanations….perfect. 😊❤

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I glad you enjoyed the video ! Thanks !!

[@gregculverwell]

Where I live they are know as a Surform - the Stanley brand name. I've used them for many years - life is too short to have at it with sandpaper. Even if the filler has hardened, it still takes lumps off easily.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks for the input ! Have a great new year !

[@mfordyce372]

You can use hacksaw blades also, works well

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks for the info !

[@bernardkroeger4045]

I used these blades for years. But I have found with the easier sanding fillers available now, that they have fallen from the preferred tool status. Also, one has to be careful not to damage or score the filler, therefore making further work. Yes, they have a purpose. But I think it's an individual's choice.😁

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Another tool for the tool box

[@brudug713]

Been using cheese graters for years. I like the little one usually use the small one hand rasp

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Awesome ! makes a huge difference in working the filler !

[@eddyherrera6326]

I love my rasp. I have the small rasp and versatility is great...oh and the flat metal one too!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Awesome Merry Christmas !

[@AndysDogHouse-h6l]

Hey Robert. Great video. I have used the grader before and really didn't like it. And that was because I was using it wrong. I waited too long to use it. Now that I know how you use it, I'll buy another one and try it out. Thanks for sharing.👍👍🍁

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yeah, brother, there is a time window. If you miss it , the grater can't Be used but if you're in that time window, there is no better way to shape and form body filler as fast and easy. Good luck on your project

[@AndysDogHouse-h6l]

Thanks Robert. See, I didn't know about the time window. And of course, the company that makes/ sells these don't give any information. Thanks again.,

[@guzzifabrication3448]

👍@@AndysDogHouse-h6l

[@Harold_Callahan]

Great video. I have the small block style grater but I think I'm gonna get some longer ones and use without a holder for more precise control.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

The half round graters work the best, you can find them at an autobody supply store.

[@michaelvandenhoy1021]

Used to use those rasps. Really don't see them being used much. Dad used to use them probable 30 years ago. Thanks for sharing.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Really old bodyman trick, I don't see them used much anymore.... Thanks !

[@cwmotorsports4497]

Man U know your stuff. Thanks for all the tips over the years.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Just passing on an old time body man trick ! Thanks for supporting the channel !

[@oldbiker9739]

lake side autobody uses this method as well ,I'm no body man but this method saves many hours of sanding , I could probably use 40 grit instead of 80 grit as well to speed up the process thanks for the tips ,my 91 GMC turned out well using this method .

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Huge time and material saver.... just trying to pass on what somebody showed me a long time ago. Appreciate the comment

[@vehdynam]

Great tip ! I have tried this before and it really works.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes Sir !! thanks

[@LilDirt12]

I call them cheese graters. And you can buy additional graters and switch them out. Thanks man. I like your vids. Thank you for not being condescending. It's huge in my book. 👍🤘

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@LilDirt12 Thanks brother !

[@LilDirt12]

@@guzzifabrication3448 sister. Lol. But no offense taken. I'm called dude by my boyfriend and friends. 🤭

[@thomasbynum8512]

Subscribed, thank you for putting this info out there!!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Hey man I really appreciate the sub!!!

[@ChristerJohansson-ic5be]

Tanks a nice video and happy new years to you

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir ! Best wishes to you and family in the new year !

[@Fearsome4some74]

Great channel! Thanks for sharing the tips and reminders 👍

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir !

[@Cheva-Pate]

I’m working on a boat from 1959 it’s a Ockebo Moboat and i have a lot of bondowork i will try both yours tips going to be fun A have taking the hull under the waterline from a SeaDoo put in the flat bottom boat so now i have V-shape and waterjet on a very old boat!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Awesome ! Hope it helps

[@SamRalls-ti1be]

Been using that method for decades. I guess. I just assumed everyone else figured that out. Great, helpful post for many folks. I let it finish curing before sanding. After the full cure, I use an orbital with a higher grit. Again.....really helpful for many.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes Sir, just passing it on to the new generation 👍

[@craigiefconcert6493]

Great video. Thanks!!!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir ! I hope it helps in your bodyworking

[@scottcrowley2061]

Good, solid tips. Nice.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Passing on old time body man trick. Thanks !

[@DanielHadamik]

I have used thinner on a rag, to dry the suface of the vondo so the sandpaper doesn't clog. Works well.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Hey thanks for the info !

[@maxenielsen]

Thank you for sharing the benefit of your experience!!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Just passing on old time tricks, thanks !

[@anthonytrodriguez7166]

Very nicely explained

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks !!!

[@christiantroy7722]

I've been doing that for years it's great for getting the rough shape but stay away from the edges it will just take it all off 👍👍👍

[@guzzifabrication3448]

👍

[@CharlieEady]

After mixing, does the resin gardener or bondo gardener still need to added??

[@guzzifabrication3448]

The bondo hardener ratio doesn't change, thanks

[@robertcheslock9636]

Started using the "cheese grater" rasp when they first came out. An old model I have has an adjustable bar that can be extended, you cut the grater to whatever length you want to use. They work great to quickly bring the filler down for shaping. Timing its use is important! Your videos are excellent, you have the skill and talent needed to do great work!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yeah it's a pretty old body man trick, just showing the new guys and gals, I haven't seen the one your describing that would be interesting to see. Are they still available ? I have an old Vixen file that is adjustable that I use for lead work. Thanks for the comment !

[@ericschulze5641]

Pretty sure they first came out in the 1950s

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@ericschulze5641 The vixen file ?

[@ericschulze5641]

? The cheese grater they had been around a long time when I went to trade school/auto body in the late 1970s, probably came out shortly after plastic body filler came into use

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@ericschulze5641 Got it !

[@RicardoGonzalez-c9s]

Thanks for the heads up Great

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Passing on an oldtime bodyman trick, Thanks !!

[@Bogieman18]

Good job

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir ! Merry Christmas

[@lohikarhu734]

I must*thank you sincerely* For not calling this *"a hack"* Trick, technique, even better!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks, I really dislike the word " hack "

[@earniederboven5100]

Cheese graters /rasps are great tools..

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes they are!

[@P.Trim69]

You your work best for me. That's y ur coming here remember.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

🙂

[@stevesmith-ny8jb]

Excellent info & delivery. Where were you 27 years ago!? Thank you for sharing.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir ! I hope you can use it now, hey have a great new year !

[@fredericocorrea9814]

I like the video but what's the consistency I'm looking for? I'm new to this. Thanks for the tips and tricks. Wish me luck!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@fredericocorrea9814 hey thank you for the comment and the question so this is a really old body man trick and its intended purpose is to eliminate pinholes if you put too much added resin in the mix will become runny and hard to sand, the consistency should be slightly creamy not hard to mix, if it's running yeah that's too much resin. The best thing to do is just experiment and small amounts until you get the consistency and the performance you are looking for. thanks

[@pennysavercashroyjohnson7675]

The longer flat ( cg) I'd take off the holder, they are best for larger radius outside curves, VW bug per say, and if you take a cut off wheel to the half round, in the shape of a point V, it's easy to get in hard to reach places, like corners.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Hey thanks for the input happy new year

[@Bozemanjustin]

3:28 when I moved into my first apartment I had never painted a house before, I had painted cars. I literally was using a rasp on the walls to try and get them smooth, treating it like it was a car. My landlord finally saw it and laughed and said you've only painted cars, haven't you... He dunked the roller in the paint and ran it up a section of the wall. I hadn't used the rasp on yet... And you couldn't see anything. You couldn't see any of the crap I was trying to remove

[@alicenaillis7382]

Thanks for the trick💥

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks for the comment !

[@robertgroves6186]

So far I have not used any body filler, not at that stage on my project. When I do I'll be so glad I learned from this video!!. Your videos are great! When MIG welding longer joins, like replacing the bottom 6" of an out door skin do you use the same tenique as in the smaller patches? Appreciate your lessons! Thanks.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes Sir same technique, with larger repair areas just keep heat build up in mind.... the body filler trick is a really old body man tip. Sorry I missed this comment somehow. Thanks

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks

[@LittleCobra-eu9cx]

Ty for your info

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@LittleCobra-eu9cx thank you I'm just passing on an old-time body man trick, now it's yours thanks for watching !

[@My-Nickel]

Thank you sir 🙏

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you !

[@bravo2002fatboy]

I was about 16 in 1970 learning body work from an older hippie he told me it was called the “wet dream method “thanks for making the video

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Oookkk... Glad it brought back a good memory. Thanks for the comment !

[@theslowride66]

Back on the old days (1980's) we dint even know the cheese grater had a holder or tool. I stumbled upon if you clog your grater with bondo you can soak it in water & it will clean up easy . I had a mixing board made out of counter top left over ( cabinmate shop neat by) I would clean off the left over with a razor blade , The plastic applicators clean up better if you peel it off after its cured. If going for a flat skim coat use a metal putty knife.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

yeah I never use a cheese, wow I never heard the water trick, I'll give that a try. Merry Christmas !

[@luckyvids]

My best option for a mixing board was a toyota rear door's glass and whenever it got dirty with some leftover hard bondo it was very easy to clean it with the grinder. I miss the good old days, man!

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@luckyvids Thanks for the comment

[@heyxilong]

I used a hacksaw blade to knock of most of the top layer and even off the body before putting on a second layer if needed. Once you knock off the shiny layer it's easier to sand.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Haven't tried that one.

[@heyxilong]

@guzzifabrication3448 it feathers the bonds edges better and it has a finer finish. Less gouges.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@heyxilongI'll try that

[@numbskullskills]

it that the tinned out filler. havent mixed any yet to see how it sands

[@guzzifabrication3448]

More than 20% added resin and the mixs gets a little harder to sand but either way this method works on both. Merry Christmas

[@numbskullskills]

cool thanks Merry Christmas too you too.@@guzzifabrication3448

[@lohikarhu734]

I've used those rasps on wood, for a long time, for forming shapes, mostly...

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Awesome Thanks for the comment !

[@cfell]

Hacksaw blade woks sometimes.. span long sweeps once applied… cut slit in a board and glue in place, one smooth and other teeth out… then the rasps too… trick is hitting “the window”… temp of surface

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes Sir, definitely have to be on top of the filler and hit it at the fight time, I've never tried the hacksaw trick, I;ll have to try that one out. Happy New Year.

[@Bozemanjustin]

6:01 out of curiosity, why not just thin out your bondo with some fiberglass resin, now it goes on super thin and is easy to sand

[@pauldegano5724]

Okay so when your doing the next steps do you add more filler ? As it looks there are light scratches in the bondo from the rasp

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Great question, that was a rushed demo, usually with a little more time you should have that issue , however most repairs will require 2 mixes, if it needs a second mix, recoat. Happy New Year !

[@choimdachoim9491]

Drywall section at da Big Box places. Make life so easy building a house.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

As long as your arm doesn't get tired...

[@williamhenson1771]

Will it work on bonds glass?

[@williamhenson1771]

Stupid auto correct ***bondo glass***

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@williamhenson1771No doesn't work well with reinforced fillers.

[@Richie5480]

I’ve always used cheese graters , just before the bondo starts drying.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Nice ! Merry Christmas

[@redcarone1341]

WOW lincoln electric powermigs. how do they take care of you. do you still have them.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I ❤ ! transform machines will last lifetime...

[@redcarone1341]

@@guzzifabrication3448 WONDERFUL! you sir have good day nice work keep them videos comming.

[@gm-lb9oe]

I also get a kick out of people who say ,DONT USE THE "BONDO" BRAND BECAUSE ITS JUST CRAP. GUESS WHAT EVERYONE............................................................... .THE BONDO BRAND IS ACTUALLY MADE BY 3M. Its still a 3m product.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

THANK YOU !!!! most of the negative comments come from people with little to NO experience...... AKA keyboard jockeys, never been in the trenches...... Have a great new year and thanks for the comment !

[@ImpalaLans]

What would you say the correct timing is at 75 degrees F? Maybe 10 minutes?

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I'll try to make a video over mixing cure times soon. Merry Christmas

[@boonieg2460]

👍

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks Merry Christmas

[@sherwinstaudt1881]

When those rasp hit the market years ago they were intended for wood, you can waste a lot of body filler material with those rasp.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Yes, you can shape and contour filler really quickly . Thanks for the comment !

[@garyhoward4064]

What is the approximate time to wait before starting the cheese scratching

[@guzzifabrication3448]

That's tricky... if the filler is too soft you will know fast and if it's too hard you will know faster.... mix and spread get some practice and the filler will tell you what to do. Thanks

[@jump4j]

man I haven't used a cheese file since doing rust jobs in the 80's

[@guzzifabrication3448]

👍

[@malcolmdyer6090]

I've always known those files as 'Surform' by Stanley and they are a wood working file, not metal or Bondo file.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

?? they are awesome for working filler....

[@luckyvids]

I was a body man in an auto body shop in the 70s and we used cheese graters then. Many body men didn't knew about the use of the cheese graters but it did made a hell of a difference to finish the sanding in half the time.

[@aaronwalker8798]

The filler is your problem. Try gold. Sand it with a file with 36 to shape right before it gets fully hard, just as soon as it doesn't gum the paper. The durablock you had was the best. You were just using it wrong. You have to keep switching directions. Also, you won't have to press hard if you use gold. You will kick yourself if you ever try it. Last fact, a cheese grater is for someone that didn't do their metal work. A hammer and dolly shapes and saves money on materials and produces a better quality job.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I just you haven't seen my metal finish only or lead working videos.... Your missing the point of the video.... this is for beginners....

[@alisterromain8425]

Thank you! I did a whole lot of nonsense. I'm feeling discouraged to redo. Do this, I spend a lot of time on my back or butt - really, really hard. No power tools.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I'm not sure I follow What you're saying thanks for the comment friend

[@patrickmurray7990]

I use the graters when I am constructing Plugs to make fiberglass molds. Doing body work I always try to stick to the old rule of not building more than 1/16 of an inch thick or less. If you need more, you didn't complete the metal work! I'm now retired from the restoration industry and have completed projects that still are receiving awards. Keep up the great videos.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thank you Sir ! you are correct do your metalwork, and the job will last ! Thanks for the comment !

[@P.Trim69]

All one more thing cheese grater. Will make pizza dough and cheese graters. Filler up with all the toppings .

[@guzzifabrication3448]

👍

[@TrillKump]

I never thought these were any type of secret. I called them a 'Sureform'.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Not everyone know as much as you do.......

[@AaronBilger]

hardest part for me is getting it just right so I won't see the imperfect surface after using body filler.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Prime, block sand, reprime, block

[@sungear]

Feedback: voice over is awesome. This video would have sucked if you were narrating while doing the work.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Thanks !

[@LilDirt12]

Yeah ive noticed sandpaper is not what it used to be. Its much thinner and wears out much faster. Also falls apart. And you pay double for less quality.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@LilDirt12 Yes Sir.... There are a lot of jobs I just pass on now because the material prices would be too expensive.

[@bobdown9414]

Nothing new about cheese graters been around for years. Used them when i did my trade in the 60ties.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

But there is more people that don't know than do.... this video is for them.

[@gerardgerman9995]

Do that way all the time

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@gerardgerman9995 Awesome !

[@Stevesbe]

WWBBD what would Bondo Billy do?

[@guzzifabrication3448]

🤔

[@robertmcmahon2744]

Why doesn't your channel have a "Thanks$$" botton where people can leave a $$ gift to say thanks for the education they get from your videos?? Other channels i watch do. I often leave $2 per video to the channel provider to aid in future production of videos.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

I have a ko-fi.com/guzzifabrication set up on the home page, I will add to each video, great idea , Thanks for supporting the channel !!

[@jefferypowell9885]

Usegraders when filler is half hard

[@guzzifabrication3448]

👍

[@P.Trim69]

Ok BRING SOME Bondough will make something to eat to.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

On my way

[@P.Trim69]

@@guzzifabrication3448 be out front weightin

[@Stevesbe]

I actually use cheese graters

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Nice, have a great new year

[@DocPhil1956]

So why not a time frame 15 30 60 minutes to curing??

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Mixing body filler and hardener has so many variables it doesn't work that way.....That's a good video idea. Merry Christmas

[@DocPhil1956]

@@guzzifabrication3448 seen enough fabrications . I appreciate the insight but I look for tricks of the trade . It looks like the bondo and hardener were your professional mix . You put so much emphasis on timing to get it right .

[@FE428Power]

​@@guzzifabrication3448great point. Now do a video explaining these variables and how to achieve the window in which to use these tools.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

@@FE428Power Thanks for watching !

[@P.Trim69]

You been here before yeah it's rough n here. Heck it's rough out there laying on ground watch the glass it's broken. That's the garage where it's going be.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

Ok...

[@markmeador]

Leave the kid alone, not everybody can be old and know stuff.

[@jimporter441]

there is no way a team that played as well as cleveland did, falls apart like this unless they were told to.

[@guzzifabrication3448]

That's a good reason not to gamble....

[@OldBondoBilly]

Bondo on cardboard! It’ll suck out all the benzo-blah-blah🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@guzzifabrication3448]

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[@saylaveenadmearedead]

No, it's called a sure form.

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What's called sure foam??