The Bowling Ball That Completely Changed Bowling

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Brad and Kyle

Brad and Kyle

Күн бұрын

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@mikelombard21
@mikelombard21 2 ай бұрын
Ive always loved the way Brad communicates bowling to amateurs. He has such a gift for teaching, I always learn so much from your videos. Kyle as well of course, but Brad's way of describing things just meshes with my learning style and limited knowledge of the game. Awesome video guys. Been a big fan for a long time.
@willieyoung7070
@willieyoung7070 2 ай бұрын
I love me some urethane!!! Hammer guy (my apologies), and my purple hammer and 78D black urethane are easily my best balls. You’re 100% right, if you’re a high rev player you should have both. I’ll start with my 78D and around the second~ish game I’ll move to my purple hammer. I know people hate it when you throw urethane on a house shot, but it works. Sidenote, I did mess around and try my friend pitch black and I see why people love that ball. That ball is awesome!!! It’s smooth, very controllable and has the right amount of hook. After I was done using it, I was thinking about getting my own. Everyone should have at least one urethane ball
@timanders3151
@timanders3151 2 ай бұрын
If ur throwing urethane on a house shot you're an absolute hack. take two weeks off and then quit
@willieyoung7070
@willieyoung7070 2 ай бұрын
@@timanders3151 if you don’t know how to use urethane just say it fam, there’s no need for name calling. You would hate to go against my team in league. I have my 78D and purple hammer, another guy on my team also has a purple hammer. Lastly our anchor benchmark ball is a pitch black 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
​@@willieyoung7070I like to throw plastic on a house shot(white dot). I have a lower ball speed. I have a purple, IQ red, and pitch black for sport patterns.
@willieyoung7070
@willieyoung7070 2 ай бұрын
@@ripvanrevs respect fam 👊🏾👊🏾
@static6581
@static6581 2 ай бұрын
@@willieyoung7070I’d find a sub every time I bowled you tools
@meanboy2000
@meanboy2000 2 ай бұрын
Found the same with the purple and black hammers. Purple I needed to go away from the pocket while the black I can go down the boards. I prefer the black on house because I can keep it straight and it sets up the reactive balls later since it stretches the pattern.
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 2 ай бұрын
I got out of college in 1979 and went to work at a corporation in Ohio. Everyone bowled then and I was immediately recruited to a team on the company bowling league. I was advised to buy a Johnny Petraglia LT-48 as my first ball, which is made of rubber and I still have. After a year or so the Columbia 300 Yellow Dot came out (there were only a handful of choices in those days). The Yellow Dot was made of polyester and it was the start of what we consider modern bowling. By the late 1980s urethane balls arrived and they were stronger of course.
@phem0r908
@phem0r908 2 ай бұрын
Love the videos, you've been my go to for learning how to play pba patterns during my summer sport shot league.
@stevenreid-g2y
@stevenreid-g2y 2 ай бұрын
I was a serious bowler when the only choices were plastic or rubber of various hardness (cue the soaker). Urethane did indeed change the game and make scoring easier although some bowling centers did things to try to nullify that. Having said that I think the advent of the reactive balls changed the game even more! Suddenly guys with not much more than their name on their ball were hooking the whole lane!
@jp_spareparts
@jp_spareparts 2 ай бұрын
Love my 78/U. Its been great for the first game of league. I usually have to switch off of it after the first game and a half but its a ball that goes wherever i bowl
@kingmrfone5604
@kingmrfone5604 2 ай бұрын
Let me list my ball history...Black Diamond...LT-48.....Nail... MoRich Revs... now using a Virtual Gravity. Plenty of different balls to choose from now. Liked your spare shooting post.
@RDEvans284
@RDEvans284 2 ай бұрын
So, I'm curious. When you guys say you hit the urethane ball with surface most of the time before starting. How much exactly are you using say, on 32 ft Bear (1000g pad?) Vs say using urethane on a 40 ft. Pattern (360-500g?). I bowl mostly on house shots so I don't use urethane much, but we have a sport shot league using the pba patterns starting up and several sport compliant tournaments being held in the area and I'd like a general direction to go in when using surface on urethane. I'm kinda clueless. 🤷‍♂️
@josephkoepke1251
@josephkoepke1251 2 ай бұрын
So I’m a low speed (14-15mph), higher rev 2-handed player. I have an absolute power and a phaze 2 in my arsenal. What 2-3 balls would you choose to fill out a 5 ball arsenal and would Urethane be one?
@BradandKyleBowl
@BradandKyleBowl 2 ай бұрын
With how the modern game is currently played, it is hard to go anywhere without a urethane in the bag!
@Swazti
@Swazti 2 ай бұрын
would a urethane be good on burned up lanes? or only on the fresh shorter patterns? i am a balanced style bowler , but really struggle when the lanes get VERY dry. My pearls or solids just wont stay on the right side of the lane.
@CliftonDon74
@CliftonDon74 2 ай бұрын
Urethang on everythang! My Pitch Black is my go to ball for the fresh. It is also my spare ball. 375-400 revs and 17.2mph on the monitor seems middle of the middle.
@robertkendall7503
@robertkendall7503 2 ай бұрын
Suggestion for a subject : Why when we throw the ball, we've all different places for the flare on the bowling ball? For example, my flat is way under the ball. Does that mean that my drilling isn't right?
@jamesmcgall70
@jamesmcgall70 2 ай бұрын
After seeing you guys smash the face in a 41 ft. With urethane. I don’t feel so bad about my terrible league night. I was bowling a 41 ft with Urethane as well. Tank Rampage.
@thadrand5720
@thadrand5720 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the 78U… it gives me more control on short drier conditions…
@dbtime4taco50
@dbtime4taco50 2 ай бұрын
What do you think about the Sublime ball thinking about getting one
@dennismcclintock3154
@dennismcclintock3154 2 ай бұрын
I have a purple hammer was lookin at the Storm 78 but then seen the pitch black?? I do have a older Brunswick Attitude control red pearl which I love now after figuring it out string back end
@bradbusakowski4777
@bradbusakowski4777 2 ай бұрын
The ball that changed bowling was the X-Caliber. The black Angles, Hammers, U-dots took the game to the next level from the LT-48, Yellow Dot era, however the game was changed by the X-Caliber
@coryfitz93
@coryfitz93 2 ай бұрын
I love my pitch black was throwing it on the 24 USBC masters pattern last night and it did well
@static6581
@static6581 2 ай бұрын
It’s 44 feet, how dumb are you?
@tokyosan7906
@tokyosan7906 2 ай бұрын
When everyone is using the same ball, and your grips maybe even same color, how do you tell which is yours? Do you mark it somehow?
@jakesnussbuster3565
@jakesnussbuster3565 2 ай бұрын
Drilling, pitches, pour, grip size
@JeredSteilen
@JeredSteilen 2 ай бұрын
as high rev player myself, I've never really seen the purpose of a urethane ball. just the difference between reactive of how early something is or how much more hook other bowling balls have over other ones just makes urethane irrelevant. but I'm also a casual bowler who only does different house leagues and not really competitive leagues or tournaments. that is something that I maybe would like to do but don't know if I just have the time or the position in my life to get into it.
@michaelziebarth711
@michaelziebarth711 2 ай бұрын
I am hooked on my black widow urethane!! Still gets it!!
@mtrithart
@mtrithart 2 ай бұрын
Actually, you need to go back 30 + years for the ball that completely changed bowling. And that ball was the X-Calibur.
@deadpolymers3416
@deadpolymers3416 2 ай бұрын
Reactathane is a good choice for low rev players, looking a urethane shape. The Pitch Purple, Rubicon, UC3, NU Blue and Rattler NU.
@Corvidae65
@Corvidae65 2 ай бұрын
We need to find you fellas a couple 15 pound 1st gen AMF Angles to putz with. THAT is the urethane ball that changed bowling but it was made about 15 years before you guys were born. LOL!
@davigorb
@davigorb Ай бұрын
That was back when there were TV commercials on the national networks for bowling balls. "Everyone needs to have an angle"
@ShpongleSquirrel
@ShpongleSquirrel 2 ай бұрын
Is there any real use or need for urethane on house patterns or only sport shots?
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
Depends on the house pattern. If your reactive balls are snapping too much down lane, then you could try urethane. Some houses strip the lanes and put out a pretty short pattern especially if you have a higher rev rate. Might help carry the oil down so you can use reactive later.
@static6581
@static6581 2 ай бұрын
If you throw thane on house just know everyone hates you
@JustinDenefrio
@JustinDenefrio 2 ай бұрын
How would I know to make a ball change on a house shot oil pattern on 9 pin no tap jackpot league
@davigorb
@davigorb Ай бұрын
Especially in a "no-tap", if you're hitting the pocket without jumping thru the headpin leaving splits. I'd stay with the ball I'm using. Easier to dial the current ball. But if you're making good shots and the shot is going all over the place, might want to find a different area and using a different ball to play with
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
What changed is the lanes get stripped every time they are oiled. Some bowling alleys would only strip the lanes every week or two and they used a lot less oil.
@thomasleonard9685
@thomasleonard9685 2 ай бұрын
Oil has graduated with ball tech. Or maybe ball tech got better as oil increased. I think oil followed ball - used to be 8 mils was a lot now there’s 8 left after the strip
@LFGBowling
@LFGBowling 2 ай бұрын
What lenses are using for your vlogs and videos?
@fishntyme8495
@fishntyme8495 2 ай бұрын
IMO, the urethanes of the 80s & 90s were better. I still throw the Ebonite Turbo. I wonder if it has gotten "softer".? If the PBA is going to be so picky, they should start a new tour separating the two-handers from the more traditional style one-handers. I see a very different game between the two styles.
@mitchood4
@mitchood4 2 ай бұрын
What bowling alley are you guys in by the way your biggest fan ever of all time
@patrickj1628
@patrickj1628 2 ай бұрын
Only issue I have with urethane it’s a cheat code to break down the lanes, and screw up patterns.
@avos5
@avos5 2 ай бұрын
With the flare brad was showing on his red ball, theres not gonna be much difference between urethane and reactive carry down Overlapping flare is what carries oil, it isnt inherent to specific covers. Urethanes usually flare less and that usually means more carry down, you could make a reactive ball carry down more than brads red ball there
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
​@@avos5And sometimes it's used to develop the pattern for reactive for higher scores
@CliftonDon74
@CliftonDon74 2 ай бұрын
Urethang on everythang.... I first threw it in the early 1990s.
@moose2372
@moose2372 2 ай бұрын
I only have 2 urethanes purple hammer and uc3
@scotthoward6070
@scotthoward6070 2 ай бұрын
I just quit bowling after 25 years because I couldn't stand the over reaction from Reactive Resin on the easy lane conditions. It was driving me nuts. Miss right and the ball could go cross over or leave me a design spit. If I miss right the ball should be light or leave a wash out or something. The game was azz backwards.
@Blizzz1023
@Blizzz1023 2 ай бұрын
Guys, wipe those urethane balls off between shots. I almost entirely throw urethane and leaving that oil on there will completely change the ball reaction. It’s much more sensitive to residual oil vs reactive.
@RUSure2449
@RUSure2449 2 ай бұрын
MONEY!!! Trip sour apple 😅
@dmo8921
@dmo8921 2 ай бұрын
I never hear an explanation of what soft has to do with anything? Can anyone explain? Thanks
@davvyisaloser
@davvyisaloser 2 ай бұрын
The softer the ball, the more surface of the ball touches the lane, which equals more hook. Some urethane balls were getting too soft where they were reading below the legal hardness for the PBA. So PBA changed the rules to have them manufacture at 78 durometer, so when the ball softens up it won't go below the legal limit.
@Reclaimer77
@Reclaimer77 2 ай бұрын
The Purple Hammer was so good that bowlers who couldn't use it started complaining. So the PBA cooked up this "softness" crap. It's chemically impossible for urethane to "soften" over time. "Radical" showed that urethane balls measure softer after throwing them because they have oil on them, in the pore, and the oil lubricates the pin of the Durometer allowing it to penetrate the surface of the ball much easier reducing the measured hardness by several points making it "appear" to be softer. Then they take the same ball and clean it with 100% isopropyl to get all the oil off it and measure it again and it is back to normal hardness. They insist the testing done on these urethane balls is flawed and they made a mountain out of a mole hill.
@phem0r908
@phem0r908 2 ай бұрын
@@Reclaimer77 Can you link the article or video? I'm interested in reading
@dejabowler873
@dejabowler873 2 ай бұрын
​@phem0r908 on the radical thing it's on KZbin on one of their podcast
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
​@@Reclaimer77 I also believe they wanted to take urethane away from the lefties because they could use it for whole blocks. With more right handers, they could only use urethane a couple games before going to reactive. The harder urethane more difficult to shape after the oil gets pushed down
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl 2 ай бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling ball Brad and Kyle
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 2 ай бұрын
Urethane is for players that have too much revs that make reactive resin go out of control. Players like Mr. Ciminelli.
@danedickey6942
@danedickey6942 2 ай бұрын
I know yoiu guys are Storm folks, but what about the 78 Black Hammer ?
@thomasworrilow4228
@thomasworrilow4228 2 ай бұрын
I so wanted to see the dollar exchange hands lol. But you guys are about 2 years late for this video. Once the revenant released you can clearly see the difference that hardness makes compared to the spectre!
@raymah7
@raymah7 Ай бұрын
Other bowler's hate it when I use urethane, thats why i have two pitch blacks lol
@aydengianes2515
@aydengianes2515 2 ай бұрын
I don't know how to turn it off 😂
@jayveenaredo
@jayveenaredo 2 ай бұрын
Why pro use urethane for their spare?
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
Some plastic balls hydroplane and not as controllable
@mikelombard21
@mikelombard21 2 ай бұрын
Was the Pitch Black the only Urethane ball in the Storm Line? That's crazy, I never thought about that.
@mattraugh8748
@mattraugh8748 2 ай бұрын
They had the "pitch" line of balls but the pitch black is/was most commonly used
@MrPostman900
@MrPostman900 2 ай бұрын
_The Bowling Ball That Completely Changed Bowling_ will always and forever be the Nu-Line XCalibur.
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 ай бұрын
Actually It was the Yellow Dot!😊😊
@thomasleonard9685
@thomasleonard9685 2 ай бұрын
@@ripvanrevsfirst 300 - beat up yellow dot. Made soooo much cash hustling with that. Fit like a glove looked like a house beater.
@davigorb
@davigorb Ай бұрын
​​@@thomasleonard9685 when they came out, I put the grips in my yellow Dot. That ball would demolish a rack. my first 300 was a white dot Oct '84
@alexheales6343
@alexheales6343 2 ай бұрын
Why don’t you use a weak reactive instead? How about a Tropical storm?
@christopherturner8768
@christopherturner8768 2 ай бұрын
Urethane would still hook considerably sooner and be more predictable/controllable
@static6581
@static6581 2 ай бұрын
Stop making these videos and encouraging people to throw thane in house shot leagues
@bradbusakowski4777
@bradbusakowski4777 2 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. Most newer bowlers don't know how to properly use urethane and they completely wreck the pattern. Now don't get me wrong, the original (Baltimore made) Blue Hammer was one of my favorite balls ever made....35 years ago. Also, why aren't the manufacturers pushing back on this? They would rather sell balls for $140 rather than $250?
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