Yeah,they're tryin to fix something that wasn't broken. The original ms400c is fantastic.
@edwardabrahamiii37426 минут бұрын
Im glad your glad 😂
@fullthrottletimber82865 сағат бұрын
No wonder people are so misinformed 🙄 you don't need a "special tool" to adjust the oil pump on the original 400..lol..a carb screwdriver fits in there just fine 😂. Also, the 400.1 shares an air filter with the ms 462.
@Case844XL8 сағат бұрын
Hi, i'm from Germany and am waiting for such a video for months! Thank you so much. It is a very interesting new saw and i'm going to buy a 60-80cc saw by Stihl. I will wait on reviews on this saw and then see if it will get a 400.1, 462 or 500i.
@derrasenmaher97307 сағат бұрын
Vergiss die 500i. Der Verbrauch.. da kann man gleich die Tankstelle mitkaufen. Mein Setup für Baumpflege und Fällungen: 201 TC, 261, 462 und 661. Die neue 400 ist aber auch gut.
@IndianaDoug3 сағат бұрын
@@derrasenmaher9730 Ja! Wir bezeichnen den 500i in den USA als Spritfresser.😆 Es ist seltsam für mich, dass deutsche Staatsbürger nie den ersten Zugang zum Kauf von Stihl-Produkten erhalten. Mein Freund von dort sagt, dass andere Länder sie bekommen, bevor er es kann.
@Gordon_L2 сағат бұрын
@@IndianaDoug I'm guessing you wouldn't recommend a noker Doug 😁
@TimberTrainerСағат бұрын
462 is tough to beat.
@derrasenmaher9730Сағат бұрын
@@IndianaDoug thats right because some Stihl products are manufactured in other countries. Like the BR 800 X, we only got the 800 C-E over here. The blowers (BR and BG), some Chainsaw models and trimmers/brushcutters, hedgetrimmer are made in the USA. The small Chainsaws are actually made in China. So I guess thats why. But its sad, I want some US-Models.
@stamp287 сағат бұрын
Finally some decent tools on here that aren’t battery powered!
@rossco6224 сағат бұрын
And not e-go rubbish
@Gordon_L5 сағат бұрын
4:59 I think both saws have aluminium blocks Josh , it's only the piston in the original that is magnesium afaik . Also , re. balance you said the original was a bit rear heavy but later say it has an 18" bar while the new one has a 20" , try swapping them and try that balance again please.
@IndianaDoug3 сағат бұрын
Initial thoughts: wow, Stihl is building components just like Husqvarna. I mean look at the new carb and the muffler🤷🏻♂️. Regardless, it’s a great looking saw, but the original 400 is iconic! Stihl!!! Bad move for discontinuing the original 400.
@Super-Dave-Outdoors3 сағат бұрын
Doug!
@IndianaDoug3 сағат бұрын
@ the new 400.1 aka: 562XP in Stihl plastics😆
@christopherlehman40452 сағат бұрын
So the 562 is even father behind now ?
@IndianaDoug2 сағат бұрын
@@christopherlehman4045 the MK2 just came out though.
@Super-Dave-OutdoorsСағат бұрын
562xp mk3: Stihl edition
@phrodendekia4 сағат бұрын
Luckily in my country we still have the German made MS361
@qdogbenson31123 сағат бұрын
Just bought the old version. Glad I did. It's getting it ported as I type. More cc's I like. As for my favorite saw altogether, my ported 461.
@ruuzulu88147 сағат бұрын
I’m sure the new version will be fine but I’m glad I recently bought the OG 400. Such a fantastic saw
@ciphercode22982 сағат бұрын
Love mine. It's the best firewood saw I've ever had.
@LeeTillbury8 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to the race👍🏻
@derrasenmaher97307 сағат бұрын
Looks like the new 400 is a pretty good saw. Need to get my hands on one of these to see if it is worth it. I got plenty of Stihl saws and Husqvarna too. So lets See what it can do.
@TimberTrainerСағат бұрын
I never liked the 60cc Stihl saws. The Husky 562 MKII always felt better. Perhaps Stihl figured it out with this update.
@taylorc2542Сағат бұрын
I wish Husky made something in-between the 562XP and the 572XP (567XP Mark II) like Stihl has done. Also, the Stihl MS361 was a great saw; the 362 really took a step back.
@Super-Dave-OutdoorsСағат бұрын
To me this actually makes sense. Yeah it is not the same 400, but they couldnt call it a 363 because of the dislike of the 362. And the old 400 is too close in displacement to the 462. Even though it is excellent the old 400 is an odd size. If it makes serious power after mods people will stop crying so much.
@DJC9958 сағат бұрын
Nice one Josh Thanks again
@taylorc2542Сағат бұрын
Should have kept the Mg piston/67cc displacement and added 500i fuel injection. The big bore in a 60cc chassis was like dropping a LS in a Miata.
@davt86158 сағат бұрын
Buy a 400 now before stihl ruin it, The demo's for the new 400 just make it sound like an emissions exercise 👍
@shaun30-3-mg9zs7 сағат бұрын
Hi Josh, good review on the new Stihl chainsaw, catch you soon take care
@hidhshsj1232 сағат бұрын
Im keeping my dads 044
@JamesBond-wy6sb8 сағат бұрын
Pity it’s not fuel injected like the 500i !
@PurpleNovemberСағат бұрын
Agreed!
@ciphercode22984 сағат бұрын
Im not against new and improved, but i dont want stihl to tryin become trendy with our professional products. The ms400c is often compared to the beloved 044 of yesteryear. Its lighter and more powerful than husqvarna 562xp and echo cs620. It was destined to be a classic for professionals and firewood cutters,but stihl wasn't satisfied and just had to change one of the best saws theyve offered in the last 20 years. If discontinuing the ms362 was the goal they such of done that with the release of the original 400.
@russellpetrie1192 сағат бұрын
009 never let me down
@barney19416 сағат бұрын
I'm glad I have the old one unless I wont be able to get parts down the road? they should have just offered the old 400 with old school carb like the 261
@Dolmar-Rick4 сағат бұрын
saws crankcase is very anaemic looking around the clutch/vibration mount.... can see that breaking easy. And the exhaust looks very dolmar-ish, with the pipe sticking back into the cylinder 🤔.
@IndianaDoug3 сағат бұрын
@@Dolmar-Rick yep, Or Husqvarna-ish.
@WildlifeClips3658 сағат бұрын
Husky 550XP MKII
@patrickvennard8387 сағат бұрын
I expected a bit more, not less, from a new MS400. Do you know the UK price? I think this will be a huge deciding factor in the 60cc class of saw. Looking forward to seeing it cut.
@phrodendekia4 сағат бұрын
The AV mount under the clutch is no upgrade by no means. It is a limiter and it has no meat to support. Ive seen MANY MS462 being hit there and breaking the magnesium crankcase there, so then the saw has no limiter and feels so loose. In this case it's pretty much the same. The previous MS400 has an MS361 style AV travel limiter in a very much sturdier crankcase, not prone to breaking.
@Super-Dave-Outdoors3 сағат бұрын
FRONT FED TRANSFERS!!!!!! OH YEAH!!!!!
@PurpleNovemberСағат бұрын
I’m thinking this going to be a good thing. I’m not sure about stock condition but for emissions it needs to be more efficient, that probably means more potential. I’m curious for sure!
@Super-Dave-OutdoorsСағат бұрын
@@PurpleNovember i think it is going to be a hot item once warmed over
@PurpleNovemberСағат бұрын
@ Absolutely! I totally agree with you. Especially if it behaves like it’s fuel injected like some testers claim. It’s going to be another 500i
@memphis2857117 минут бұрын
There is some misinformation in this video. The cylinder is not magnesium, and the oil pump is adjustable with a carb screwdriver
@EFplays3763 сағат бұрын
Ported 661 c with wcs bark box dogs handle and clutch cover
@MrDbone755 сағат бұрын
I am in hospital tonight
@thejackbancroft7336Сағат бұрын
10:10 Bro what.
@davewyatt14682 сағат бұрын
i find it funny that over the years Stihl has copied the 5 series husky design more and more.
@cwjolly697 сағат бұрын
If the new one is so good y less cc. From the old one
@scottfoster24872 сағат бұрын
Best be getting these before they are discontinued. Run one alot takes alot to get them broken in. Got rid of the two best firewood saws for a pos junk pile saw ,The new saw looks like a steatming turd!
@tgsgardenmaintenance46278 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure the new version will be great, predominantly use Stihl hedgecutters, and they are indestructible! Don't use chainsaws that much, but couldn't be happier with my Husqvarna 455 Rancher! Can't go wrong with either Stihl or Husqvarna, top notch in my opinion!
@NHmad6 сағат бұрын
Great video when you test it could we mabye have 400vs462 or 400vs500i that would be great